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Dale Erwin

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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migry wrote:
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> Hiya,
>
> just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> performed during an opera.. and which opera
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Migry

Puccini's MADAMA BUTTERFLY has a wedding ceremony. It is, however,
his representation of a Japanese wedding ceremony.
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Glenn de Verteuil

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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Dale Erwin wrote:

> migry wrote:
> >
> > Hiya,
> >
> > just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> > performed during an opera.. and which opera
> >
> > Can anyone help?
> >
> > Thanks guys,
> >
> > Migry
>

> Romeo et Juliette by Gonoud has a wedding scene.


Evelyn Gamble

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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Madama Butterfly - practically the whole first act is a wedding ceremony (and its
aftermath)

Lucia di Lammermoor - although the rejoicing of the wedding guests is somewhat
marred by the announcement that Lucia has just murdered her new husband.

Gounod's "Romeo & Juliet" - Friar Lawrence performs the ceremony when the two
visit his cell at the beginning of the third act..

Enescu's "Oedipe" - allthough the actual ceremony takes place just after the
curtain on act two, it's quite clear that Jocasta and Oedipus are about to be wed.

Il Trovatore - exept that Manrico interrupts his wedding to Leonora to rush to
Azucena's rescue.

(But perhaps the last two don't count.).

I'm sure there are others - that's just off the top of my head. Anyone have more
to add?

Divamanque

Capa081348 wrote:

> >Subject: Any weddings in opera?
> >From: migry <mi...@netvision.net.il>
> >Date: 1/23/99 3:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
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> >
> >Hiya,
> >
> >just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> >performed during an opera.. and which opera
> >
> >Can anyone help?
> >
> >Thanks guys,
> >
> >Migry
>

> Mendelssohn and Wagner both wrote famous wedding marches (the former as part of
> his incidental music in A Midsummer Night's Dream, the latter for Lohengrin)
> Pat Finley
> Un Bel Di...

Mark D. Lew

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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It was too long ago for me to remember clearly, but I think La Perichole's
wedding happens on stage.

mdl


Mike Richter

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Jan 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/23/99
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They happen all over the place - real and otherwise. In fact, you
might even guess that there is one in 'The Marriage of Figaro' - and
you'd be right! However, some of the fakes (such as Don Pasquale's)
appeal to my crotchety old bachelor soul.

Mike

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> Hiya,
>
> just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> performed during an opera.. and which opera
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Migry

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migry

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Capa081348

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>Subject: Any weddings in opera?
>From: migry <mi...@netvision.net.il>
>Date: 1/23/99 3:30 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <36AA5B8F...@netvision.net.il>
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Mendelssohn and Wagner both wrote famous wedding marches (the former as part of

Benjamin Maso

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There is also a wedding march in Weber's Euryanthe. Because it's the two
villains who are getting married, it's full of dissonances. Something
different for once.

Benjo Maso

Richard C. Wall

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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LOHENGRIN has a wedding
So does ALBERT HERRING of Benjamin Britten

Martha Brummett

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:30:24 +0200, migry <mi...@netvision.net.il>
wrote:

>just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
>performed during an opera.. and which opera

Constance Fletcher gets married in "The Mother of Us All" by Virgil
Thomson (libretto Gertrude Stein).


Martha Brummett
Denver CO

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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In article <36AA5B8F...@netvision.net.il>,
migry <mi...@netvision.net.il> wrote:
> Hiya,

>
> just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> performed during an opera.. and which opera
>
> Can anyone help?
>
> Thanks guys,
>
> Migry
>
Off the top of my head:
Cosi Fan Tutte (with Despina officiating)
Madama Butterfly
Lohengrin
The Magic Flute (in a Masonic sort of way)
Le Nozze di Figaro

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Xise

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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If I am not mistaken the "Wedding March" itself comes from Lohengrin.

There's plenty of wedding scenes in opera i.e. Elisire, Lucia, etc.

Regards.
Ximena


Jim Dunphy

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Jan 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/24/99
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And Emmeline marries Matthew in Picker's Emmeline, only to find out
later that he is her own son.

Jim dunphy

Martha Brummett wrote:

> On Sun, 24 Jan 1999 01:30:24 +0200, migry <mi...@netvision.net.il>
> wrote:
>

> >just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> >performed during an opera.. and which opera
>

Ian Michaud

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> Also, do you know if there are any other operas based on Thomas Hardy? Is
> there a "Far from the Madding Crowd", or a "Jude the Obscure" or a "Return of
> the Native" or a "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" out there in operaland? Seems to
> me I've heard of a "Jude the Obscure".
>
> Hardy would seem like a difficult writer to base an opera on.

The Canadian composer Jean Coulthard (that's a female Jean, not a French
masculine Jean) wrote an operatic version of 'Return of the Native'
decades ago while living in Britain. Unfortunately it's never been
staged and didn't receive its world premiere until six or seven years ago
in an Opera-in-Concert format with piano accompaniment in Vancouver. The
90-year-old composer attended on opening night and said she was grateful
and touched to finally hear her work performed.

It's hard to tell how the piece would sound with an orchestra but I can't
say it gripped me. Then again I do enjoy Ms Coulthard's orchestral
works and have to admit I'm not a Hardy fan and knew nichts (as CH would
say) about the story or characters beforehand.

Ian

BLGrimace

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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>the latter for Lohengrin)

and we all know how *that* one turned out :-)


Compositionally Yours,

Anthony "Grimace" Boyer
President, Young Artists' Society

BLGrimace

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Not that anyone's heard of it, but my own opera "The Mayor of Casterbridge" has
a wedding in it.

Capa081348

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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>Subject: Re: Any weddings in opera?
>From: blgr...@aol.com (BLGrimace)
>Date: 1/24/99 5:32 PM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <19990124203247...@ng114.aol.com>
*posted to NG*

Interesting choice. Has it been performed?

Also, do you know if there are any other operas based on Thomas Hardy? Is
there a "Far from the Madding Crowd", or a "Jude the Obscure" or a "Return of
the Native" or a "Tess of the D'Urbervilles" out there in operaland? Seems to
me I've heard of a "Jude the Obscure".

Hardy would seem like a difficult writer to base an opera on. As with Henry
James, so much of the drama is psychological. Powerful, but internalized.

I am sure I'm not the only one who is curious as to how you chose the subject,
and any other details you'd like to share about its composition.

Best Regards,

SDRL

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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How about "The Marriage of Figaro", "Madama Butterfly". Marriage ceremonies
take place on stage in these works.

Lohengrin has much about weddings in it, but the actual marriage ceremony takes
place off stage. This is where the traditional wedding march comes from.

In "Lucia Di Lammermoor", Lucia signs her marriage contract on stage.

In Verdi's "Falstaff" Fenton and Nannetta are in effect married on stage. Ford
blesses their union.

Most marriages in opera have tragic consequences.

Bob

Lis K. Froding

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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In article <36AA5B8F...@netvision.net.il>,

migry <mi...@netvision.net.il> wrote:
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> just been asked by a friend if any wedding ceremonies are actually
> performed during an opera.. and which opera


A somewhat strange example is the double wedding in Wagner's
Goetterdaemmerung.

And is there one in La Cenerentola? At least there was a giant
wedding cake in the Met's current production ;-)

Lis


GRNDPADAVE

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>From: sd...@aol.com (SDRL)
>Date: Sun, Jan 24, 1999 22:53 EST
>Message-id: <19990124225352...@ng144.aol.com>
========================
FALSTAFF contains a double marriage. Not only are Fenton and Nannetta united,
but Dr. Cajus marries Bardolfo.
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I think there is a double wedding ceremony that is interrupted at the end of
COSI FAN TUTTE.
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==G/P Dave


Christina West

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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capa0...@aol.com (Capa081348) wrote:


> Also, do you know if there are any other operas based on Thomas
> Hardy? Is there a "Far from the Madding Crowd", or a "Jude the
> Obscure" or a "Return of the Native" or a "Tess of the
> D'Urbervilles" out there in operaland? Seems to me I've heard of a
> "Jude the Obscure".

There's a 'Tess' by Frederick d'Erlanger, and one or two other
settings based in this book too, I vaguely recall. Never heard a note
of any of 'em, though.

On a tangent, does anyone at all remember a book called something like
'1001 Nights of Opera' - published probably in the 20s or 30s? There
was a copy in my school library, rather more years ago than I care to
remember, now. It contained descriptions and plot summaries of
operas, including some of the most obscure pieces, like Godard's
'Jocelyn', and the d'Erlanger piece above. I've often wondered since
if it ever turns up second-hand anywhere, or if it was ever
re-published.

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MAD4OPERA

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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There is a wedding en masse at the end of "Betrothal in a Monastery"

Terri

Skip

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Jan 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/25/99
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Also the ending of Barber of Seville
Lucia Di Lammermoor
an almost wedding in La Fille Du Regiment

Capa081348

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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>Subject: Re: Any weddings in opera?
>From: Christina West <xi...@argonet.co.uk>
>Date: 1/25/99 2:49 AM Pacific Standard Time
>Message-id: <1a35e7c948%xi...@argonet.co.uk>

I have a book called "Home Book of the Opera" by a Charles Annesley, with a
nice introduction by Olin Downes. Its first edition dates to 1899 (my edition
is 1941), and it contains "the stories of the operas" and it has synopses of a
lot of operas I've never run across elsewhere :

La Princesse d'Auberge Blockx
Les Girondins Le Borne
L'Attaque du Moulin Bruneau
La Dolores Breton
The Legend Breil

and those are just the ones with composers whose names begin with 'B'!

And the synopsis of Louise gets six pages, while I Puritani gets 1 1/2 and
Manon gets 2.

Strange book! It has synopses of literally dozens of really obscure operas,
but it gives synopses for only 12 of Verdi's 26 (omitting Nabucco and Macbeth,
among others).

You mention a "Tess" by Frederick d'Erlanger b. 1868 (of whom I've never
heard). My book contains two operas by a Camillo Erlanger 1863-1919 (of whom
I've also never heard) --Aphrodite and L'Aube Rouge.

Odd that two composers of obscure operas share the name unusual name, and were
born just a few years apart.

Mark D. Lew

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In article <19990125223137...@ng-fx1.aol.com>,
capa0...@aol.com (Capa081348) wrote:

> Strange book! It has synopses of literally dozens of really obscure operas,
> but it gives synopses for only 12 of Verdi's 26 (omitting Nabucco and Macbeth,
> among others).
>
> You mention a "Tess" by Frederick d'Erlanger b. 1868 (of whom I've never
> heard). My book contains two operas by a Camillo Erlanger 1863-1919 (of whom
> I've also never heard) --Aphrodite and L'Aube Rouge.

Odd that your book has anglicized one first name and italianized the other.
Both were French-born, though Frédéric spent much of his career in Britain.
IIRC, he was director of Covent Garden for several years. _Tess_, I
believe, had an Italian libretto, written by Illica.

mdl

PS. If one of the "really obscure operas" listed in your book is Victor
Massé's _Galathée_, please email me.

mdl


Xise

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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There are so many weddings in opera, and I think I forgot about La Sonnambula.

Christina West

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In message <19990126094133...@ng32.aol.com>
xi...@aol.com (Xise) wrote:

> There are so many weddings in opera, and I think I forgot about La
> Sonnambula.

Nearly any any comic or semi-seria opera you care to name ends in a
wedding. It's the original 'Comic Theme' - the trials and
vicissitudes leading up to a marriage.

I think the original poster was looking for a wedding ceremony which
takes place onstage, i.e. in the action of the piece.

Eric

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Jan 26, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/26/99
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Well, what about Figaro's ?
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WDSmithDM

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Jan 27, 1999, 3:00:00 AM1/27/99
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I believe many of the "weddings" in opera are really betrothal ceremonies,
often with the signing of a marriage contract, because the Catholic Church
prohibited the staging of sacraments.

HenryFogel

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There is the wedding which begins, but does not progress too far, between
Juliet and Count Paris in Gounod's Romeo and Juliet. It is at that wedding that
Juliet collapses from the serum administered by Friar Laurence.

Henry Fogel

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