Michael Bolton sings opera on CD???
Hornymd590
Jay Leno mentioned on a recent Tonight Show that Michael Bolton was inspired by
Pavarotti to record an album of opera arias. He swore it was the truth.
Anybody have any news about this ghastly proposition? Sheesh!
Dan
Matthew B. Tepper
In article <19980110054...@ladder02.news.aol.com>,
horny...@aol.com spake:
'Fraid so. It has come out on Sony, which I hereby declare no longer
to be a classical label (though the subsidiary imprints, such as
Essential Classics, Masterworks Heritage, etc., still are).
I sincerely hope Bolton's next holiday is an afternoon skiing trip.
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Marcia Dietrich
ducky兀deltanet.com (Matthew B. Tepper) wrote:
>'Fraid so. It has come out on Sony, which I hereby declare no longer
>to be a classical label (though the subsidiary imprints, such as
>Essential Classics, Masterworks Heritage, etc., still are).
Hi Matthew,
I don't think this should be declared a "classical" work, it is surely
cross-over and the main target group will be Bolton fans. Hopefully it
will be labeled in such a way that any classical fans who don't know
Bolton wouldn't buy it thinking he is a new operatic tenor.
Is Sony 100% classical and being on that label automatically
qualify it as a classical CD? Domingo's "Bajo el Cielo Espanol" is on
Sony, all Spanish material written by Agustin Lara (wrote Granada).
Granted a classical singer, but a crossover album.
Marcia
Brian Newhouse
In article <6987pk$sis$1...@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com>,
KPR...@prodigy.com (Marcia Dietrich) wrote:
[snip]
> Is Sony 100% classical and being on that label automatically
> qualify it as a classical CD? Domingo's "Bajo el Cielo Espanol" is on
> Sony, all Spanish material written by Agustin Lara (wrote Granada).
> Granted a classical singer, but a crossover album.
> Marcia
Well, no, Sony isn't all classical, any more than its predecessor Columbia
was. A record company the size of Sony will have a fair number of
divisions (classical, jazz, rock, international pop (like Agustin Lara),
etc.) If the recording did in fact come out of the classical department,
the label will say "Sony Classical", sort of like "Columbia Masterworks"
in the old days. (See what you pick up from being a music librarian?)
--
Brian Newhouse
newh...@mail.crisp.net
Janet Yandik
>> it is surely cross-over and the main target group will be Bolton
fans<<
Hi Marcia,
I heard a little bit of it when Michael Bolton sung Nessun Dorma
(or was it Nisson Dormat?) on the Nanny. While I don't think I'll rush
out to buy the CD, I liked his blue-eyed soul interpretation. At least
he sung it "his way" and didn't try to sound like an opera singer. :)
- Janet
Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
On 10 Jan 1998, Hornymd590 wrote:
> Jay Leno mentioned on a recent Tonight Show that Michael Bolton was
> inspired by Pavarotti to record an album of opera arias. He swore it
> was the truth. Anybody have any news about this ghastly proposition?
> Sheesh!
Hey, that's nothing. Pavarotti inspires me to sing "Che gelida manina" &
"E lucevan le stelle" in the shower. At least that's not been captured on
any medium for wide distribution. I mean, not to my knowledge.........
WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
(and Cincinnati Opera subscriber & PROUD OF IT!)
Mitchell Kaufman
Apparently his little attempt at Vesti La Giubba on one of the
Pavarotti and Friends albums inspired him...he shouldn't give up his
day job, nor should Meat Loaf, Bryan Adams, or the other pop stars who
have done duets with Pavarotti on those albums.
Jack Hamilton
On Sun, 11 Jan 1998 04:36:47 GMT, ma...@ix.netcom.com (Mitchell Kaufman)
wrote:
He's unlikely to be really bad unless he chose improper materials
(and maybe pop singers' managers are better at keeping them from
doing that than classical singers' managers sometimes seem to be),
and he might inspire someone to listen to the "real thing".
Or maybe not. I can imagine that someone who heard "West Side Story"
for the first time in that awful opera all-stars production might never
want to hear the real thing.
--
Jack Hamilton
j...@alumni.stanford.org
PGP ID: 79E07035
James Keary
Dan Man,
Apparently it's true. Check out "Singers who try but can't sing opera" on
this
board. Frightened as I am, I'm buying it. How could you not? It's like
trying to
ignore the National Inquirer in line at the grocery checkout.
Ragbert
"Bill \"Wild Willy\" Kredentser" <wwi...@one.net> writes:
<< Hey, that's nothing. Pavarotti inspires me to sing "Che gelida manina" & "E
lucevan le stelle" in the shower. At least that's not been captured on any
medium for wide distribution. I mean, not to my knowledge......... >>
Are you sure? I heard there was a pirate tape floating around, distributed by
some company called PGHM, Inc. A bit of corporate research turned up the
records for the Pretty Good Hidden Microphone outfit, and the plans in March
1998 to upgrade their equipment and rename the company PGHC.......
Don't trust that soap on a rope!
(cleaning the VCR heads now...) &:-)
--RAG
Christina
In article <34bd467c....@snews.zippo.com>, j...@alumni.stanford.org
says...
>
(snip) I can imagine that someone who heard "West Side Story"
>for the first time in that awful opera all-stars production might never
>want to hear the real thing.
>
It wasn't awful; it was just different from the original, and since
Bernstein conducted, presumably it was somewhere near what he wanted. I
thought Troyanos in particular did a fine job. Also, if you listen to the
orchestral portions, you hear Bernstein's conducting style being influenced
by all kinds of rock/pop/jazz that happened after the show's original run, my
point being that the music evolved in terms of interpretation and there was no
reason why the operatic performances couldn't be part of that evolution.
If you want a really bad crossover from opera to musicals, try the Te
Kanawa-Carreras South Pacific, which is truly terrible.
ker...@ibm.net
>If you want a really bad crossover from opera to musicals, try the Te
>Kanawa-Carreras South Pacific, which is truly terrible.
>
If you want a really good recording, OTOH, there's the Justino Diaz/Paige
O'Hara recording on Jay (complete and on 2 CDs - just like an opera).
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Michael Kerpan
Stone Mountain, GA
ker...@ibm.net
Deborah Overes
Christina wrote in message <69b86f$22j4$1...@mercury.cc.uottawa.ca>...
>In article <34bd467c....@snews.zippo.com>, j...@alumni.stanford.org
>says...
>>
>(snip) I can imagine that someone who heard "West Side Story"
>>for the first time in that awful opera all-stars production might never
>>want to hear the real thing.
>>
>
>It wasn't awful; it was just different from the original, and since
>Bernstein conducted, presumably it was somewhere near what he wanted.
<snip>
I always felt that the rerecording with opera stars was Bernstein's attempt
to "legitimize" his Broadway work. In my opinion, his popular works like
"West Side Story" and "On The Town" are brilliant but that Bernstein himself
felt that they didn't really "count" the way his classical compositions. I
could be dead wrong - and I'm sure people will let me know that I am - but
from various readings this was the opinion that I formed. Frankly, I would
have preferred a Tony that didn't sound Hispanic and a Maria who did. But I
cheerfully admit that these opinions are mine alone......... :-)
Deborah Overes
Perche' no?
Io non impugno mai quel che no so.
Christina
In article <34b97...@news1.ibm.net>, ker...@ibm.net says...
Erik Jan van Sten
Can't be worse than Jantje or Helmut Lotti singing Ave Maria (for insiders). Man,
since I tuned in to Lotti's classical show about a month ago, my TV is acting
strange - refusing to tune properly and failing speakers (my TV has taste).
EJ
Hornymd590 wrote:
> Jay Leno mentioned on a recent Tonight Show that Michael Bolton was inspired by
> Pavarotti to record an album of opera arias. He swore it was the truth.
> Anybody have any news about this ghastly proposition? Sheesh!
>
> Dan
Ragbert
Erik Jan van Sten <1274...@student.eur.nl> writes:
<< Can't be worse than Jantje or Helmut Lotti singing Ave Maria (for insiders).
Man,
since I tuned in to Lotti's classical show about a month ago, my TV is acting
strange - >>
ARRGGHH!! I accidentally tripped over his show once during pledge month, while
running away from the Bocelli spectacle... I was paralyzed for a few
seconds....he was singing (all by himself, mind you) the duet from The
Pearlfishers, in English, crooning into a cordless microphone, and working the
crowd at the same time. Honestly, I thought it was a put-on, a la Bill Murray.
But no....this is what he does--he's a Dutch tenor who likes to croon opera
and other classical tunes in a sort of lounge-lizard style. And he is
apparently a big hit in Europe, from what I've been told.
Just in time, I managed to snap out of it with a shudder (hearing the old
"abbiddyabbiddyabbiddy" as I shook my head violently back and forth), and made
a mental note to include the duet in my next Cathy Berberian tribute recital.
;-)
--RAG
Benjamin Rous
Ragbert wrote:
> ARRGGHH!! I accidentally tripped over his show once during pledge month, while
> running away from the Bocelli spectacle... I was paralyzed for a few
> seconds....he was singing (all by himself, mind you) the duet from The
> Pearlfishers, in English, crooning into a cordless microphone, and working the
> crowd at the same time. Honestly, I thought it was a put-on, a la Bill Murray.
> But no....this is what he does--he's a Dutch tenor who likes to croon opera
> and other classical tunes in a sort of lounge-lizard style. And he is
> apparently a big hit in Europe, from what I've been told.
>
> Just in time, I managed to snap out of it with a shudder (hearing the old
> "abbiddyabbiddyabbiddy" as I shook my head violently back and forth), and made
> a mental note to include the duet in my next Cathy Berberian tribute recital.
> ;-)
>
> --RAG
Rag,
You're doing him way too much justice. Calling him a tenor is like
calling Michael Bolton one as well. I doubt if his voice will carry more
than a yard without all his microphones. And as for his choice of
"popular classics" , you should have heard how he raped the Triumphal
March. Or rather you shouldn't , but I think you get my point. I just
hope this terror won't go on for much longer. And I just want to add
that we do have some serious opera going on in my country. That Lotti
character is just a really bad example of the popular music culture
around here.
Ben
---------------------------------------------------------------
"On ne meurt pas chacun pour soi, mais les uns pour les autres,
ou meme les uns a la place des autres, qui sait ?"
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Erik Jan van Sten
I'm almost ashamed to be Dutch...almost, because, thankfully, Lotti isn't! Belgian
sucker. ;-)
EJ
Ragbert
>Erik Jan van Sten wrote:
<<I'm almost ashamed to be Dutch...almost, because, thankfully, Lotti isn't!
Belgian sucker. ;-) >>
Isn't he Dutch? The local announcers said that he is. Not that they're
infallible...
.
--RAG
atti...@com.com
>Frankly, I would
>have preferred a Tony that didn't sound Hispanic and a Maria who did. But I
>cheerfully admit that these opinions are mine alone......... :-)
>
Ragbert
In a message dated 98-01-14 04:37:24 EST, you write:
<< Calling him a tenor is like calling Michael Bolton one as well. I doubt if
his voice will carry more than a yard without all his microphones. And as for
his choice of "popular classics" , you should have heard how he raped the
Triumphal March. >>
Dear Ben--
LLLOL Isn't he SCARY ????? Thankfully, I missed the Triumphal March--yuck!
Worry not--Helmut Lotti will do nothing to dispel my respect for the fine
musicians your country has a reputation for! :-)
I never really understand or accept that these sorts of entertainers attract
more contributors than traditional opera and concert fare. But it must be so,
because they get trotted out whenever it is time to start fund raising again.
--RAG
Patrick Boeckstijns
Guitlty as charged !
He's Belgian allright !
What is it with you people ? ;-)
As Hercule Poirot would have put is : "Non, Monsieur, Aye emme notte
French, aye I amme a Belgian". Well........so is Helmut LOTTI.
He's a Flemish "pop" singer who started off in the Elvis contest
circuit.
I think his ambitions are more of an entertaining than an artistic
nature. At least that's what he claimed in a recent interview.
Patrick.
Christina
In article <34be9a63...@news.farm.idt.net>, atti...@com.com says...
Mine too--but I didn`t mind the operatic concept.
Chris S
>> Jay Leno mentioned on a recent Tonight Show that Michael Bolton was inspired by
>> Pavarotti to record an album of opera arias. He swore it was the truth.
>> Anybody have any news about this ghastly proposition? Sheesh!
>>
>> Dan
I recently saw a recording with Domingo singing with Bolton. Frankly,
you would have to pay me to buy the thing.
Chris Shannon
cy...@indy.net
Scott E. Smith
I work for a classical music radio station and we got an advance copy.
It's every bit as dreadful as you're thinking. If you want a perverse
laugh though, it's almost worth the price of the disc to hear his big
finish on Vesti la giubba. The only thing worse than his pitch is his
diction.
Scott Smith
The Menons
>
>I work for a classical music radio station and we got an advance copy.
>It's every bit as dreadful as you're thinking. If you want a perverse
>laugh though, it's almost worth the price of the disc to hear his big
>finish on Vesti la giubba. The only thing worse than his pitch is his
>diction.
>
>Scott Smith
Oh God, the mere thought of it is enough to send one into a swoon.
Pavarotti and friends had the same impact on me, and most of the featured
artistes can at least hold a semblance of a tune. For a real laugh though
listen to Aaron Neville's rendition of Ave Maria..... brought tears of
horror to my eyes.
The Menons
Matthew B. Tepper
And if you need a good emetic, try Pav and Sheryl Crow savaging "La ci
darem la mano."
Sospirando
I believe Hell on Earth has just been defined!
Scott E. Smith wrote:
> Chris S wrote:
> >
> > >> Jay Leno mentioned on a recent Tonight Show that Michael Bolton was inspired by
> > >> Pavarotti to record an album of opera arias. He swore it was the truth.
> > >> Anybody have any news about this ghastly proposition? Sheesh!
> > >>
> > >> Dan
> >
> > I recently saw a recording with Domingo singing with Bolton. Frankly,
> > you would have to pay me to buy the thing.
> >
> > Chris Shannon
> > cy...@indy.net
>
g.f.
In article <6a88a7$t6p$1...@winter.news.erols.com>,
The Menons <yazn...@erols.com> wrote:
>
>
>What's next...... Goodness one can hardly wait...... The FOUR tenors take
>on the Spice Girls ????????? It's enough to send one into therapy!!
>
>
Double crossover album. Pav, Domingo and Carreras singing "Vorrei
Essere" while Scary Spice and Baby Spice sing "Mira, o Norma"
Greg
who posted a silly review of the Bolton under a slightly unrecognizable
title and almost no-one responded *sniff*
Verdie Marie
The Menons wrote:
>
> Oh God, the mere thought of it is enough to send one into a swoon.
> Pavarotti and friends had the same impact on me, and most of the featured
> artistes can at least hold a semblance of a tune. For a real laugh though
> listen to Aaron Neville's rendition of Ave Maria..... brought tears of
> horror to my eyes.
>
> The Menons
Oh yes, yes, yes....I'll never forget walking through Target where they
were playing the video of "Pavoratti and Friends" and hearing this raspy
voice with a vibrato you could drive a truck through warbling "Ave
Maria". It was enough to make me run screaming out the door..or at
least want to.
I heard a sampling of Mr. Bolton's so called Opera CD on "the
Nanny"....horrific!!!!!!!
VM
Daniel F. Tritter
i have read the heading of this thread, especially the last two words,
which presuppose two propositions. Permit me to express doubt about the
truth of both.
dft
JDavis6627
>I heard a sampling of Mr. Bolton's so called Opera CD on "the
>Nanny"....horrific!!!!!!!
Well, I bought the damn thing. It's the first time I was ever grateful to a CD
company for short changing us on the time (just over 40 minutes). To hear
Bolton sing(?) makes my throat hurt - he just can't be comfortable singing like
this. The true glory of all these arias is a chance for a wonderful voice to
shine. Without a voice these arias are a parody of themselves. And it sounds
as if Renee Fleming mailed in her performance - she a Bolton are out of sync. -
was her part recorded at a different time? Sigh.
Jon Davis
"Living well is the best revenge"
Oscar Wilde
Michael Black
JDavis6627 wrote:
> And it sounds as if Renee Fleming mailed in her performance - she a Bolton are
> out of sync. - was her part recorded at a different time? Sigh.
I think it may have been. Or at least, I believe I've heard that she recorded
their parts at separate times.
--
"Look at my face and see the concern."
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http://www.stairway.bc.ca/bjorling/suggest.htm
Bill "Wild Willy" Kredentser
On Fri, 23 Jan 1998, Michael Black wrote:
> JDavis6627 wrote:
> > And it sounds as if Renee Fleming mailed in her performance - she a
> > Bolton are out of sync. - was her part recorded at a different time?
> > Sigh.
> I think it may have been. Or at least, I believe I've heard that she
> recorded their parts at separate times.
Held her nose all the way to the bank?
WW
Team OS/2 Cincinnati & PROUD OF IT!
(and Cincinnati Opera subscriber & PROUD OF IT!)
MarkDLew
>What's next...... Goodness one can hardly wait...... The FOUR tenors take
>on the Spice Girls ?????????
I'll put my money on the Spice Girls. They might sound terrible singing opera,
but it couldn't be worse than Pavarotti in a miniskirt.
mdl