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Mxsmanic

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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Can someone tell me how long the opera Don Giovanni lasts?

Mike Richter

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About three hours.

Mike

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> Can someone tell me how long the opera Don Giovanni lasts?

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GRNDPADAVE

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>From: "Mxsmanic" <mxsm...@hotmail.com>
>Date: Sat, Feb 5, 2000 04:06 EST
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>Can someone tell me how long the opera Don Giovanni lasts?
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Much depends upon what edition is used (Prague, Vienna, conflation of the two).

Erich Leinsdorf provides a conflation -- everything from both editions -- and
his recording lasts 2 hours, 54 minutes and 39 seconds.

This recording in on 3 cds -- London 444 594-2.

==G/P Dave


Mxsmanic

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Mike Richter <mric...@cpl.net> wrote in message
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> About three hours.

Is this a fairly typical duration for an opera? Tonight is my very first
visit to the opera and I am just wondering what to expect. I picked Don
Giovanni because ... that's what was playing! (I'd rather see Carmen,
actually, but no such luck.) I know that Wagner has a reputation for being
extremely long-winded, but is three hours typical?

Does this mean that there is some sort of intermission at some point? If
so, how long does the intermission usually last?

Mxsmanic

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GRNDPADAVE <grndp...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Much depends upon what edition is used (Prague,
> Vienna, conflation of the two).

This is a live performance--does that still apply?

james jorden

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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Mxsmanic wrote:

> This is a live performance--does that still apply?

Figure on the first act lasting, oh, an hour and 40 minutes, a 20-minute
intermission (or longer, depending on the female-to-facility ratio in the
powder room), and a second act of about 90 minutes that will seem longer
because there is so little action and it mostly takes place at night. So
you are going to be at the theater for 3 1/2 hours.

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David Meadows

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james jorden wrote:
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> Naked singers do not substitute for the erotic thrill of a blazing high C.
> -- Stephanie von Buchau

Okay, I'm game. In what context was this assertion made?

D.M.


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james jorden

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> > Naked singers do not substitute for the erotic thrill of a blazing high
C.
> > -- Stephanie von Buchau
>
> Okay, I'm game. In what context was this assertion made?


As I recall, Ms. von Buchau was saying that the dramatic and emotional
impact of opera is primarily achieved through aural (specifically vocal)
means; as such, audiences do not (or should not) expect opera performers to
look like soap stars.
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Lieselotte Hemper

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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Don Giovanni has two acts, each appr. 1 1/2 hours. one interruption
Mozart's operas all will be so long. Wagner is from 2 1/2 hours (Der
fliegende Holländer)
till 4 1/2 hour (Götterdämmerung and Meistersinger von Nürnberg)
Verdi and Puccini and other Italian or French-Operas are from 1 1/4 hour
(z.B. Cavalleria, or Pagliacci)
to 3 hours (z.B. Don Carlo) Three hours are in the middle.

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Matthew B. Tepper

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Mxsmanic wrote:
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> Can someone tell me how long the opera Don Giovanni lasts?

Three glorious hours. Figure in maybe 20 or 30 minutes intermission.

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Steve Silverman

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The title of this thread suggests to me that the poster is taking his
background research much too far!

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andre35

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Feb 5, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/5/00
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Yes,
We recently endured a thread of this coarse nature.
It hadn't occured to me until you mentioned it.
Had it done so, I'd have posted first.
Best
Andre

si...@webtv.net

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Leave it to you to come up with something like that Andre! Wish I had
thought of it first. honk honk John


Aage Johansen

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Feb 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/6/00
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Mxsmanic wrote:

> Mike Richter <mric...@cpl.net> wrote in message
> news:389BFC5B...@cpl.net...
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> > About three hours.
>
> Is this a fairly typical duration for an opera? Tonight is my very first
> visit to the opera and I am just wondering what to expect. I picked Don
> Giovanni because ... that's what was playing! (I'd rather see Carmen,
> actually, but no such luck.) I know that Wagner has a reputation for being
> extremely long-winded, but is three hours typical?
>

Many operas fit on 2 CDs, DonG needs 3 CDs so it's longer than many.
Wagner's
need 3-4CDs (Holländer takes 2CDs).
Actual time may not correlate well to perceived time, hovwever.

Aage J.


Richard Leighton

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Feb 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/6/00
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Don G is a "long" opera, but pretty well-constructed dramatically, so
it goes along quickly. Compare that to some of the French rep --
Manon, uncut, can run 3 1/2....Faust, with Walpurgis, can run over
4 hours.

Opera, for the most part, was an "entertainment" designed for people
who had no other diversions...no TV, movies...and with much longer
attention-spans than modern audiences. It was not uncommon for
long operas to be combined with other, sometimes textual, pieces for a
complete evening lasting some 6-8 hours.

As a director, I have an "hour-in-the-chair" rule. Modern audiences
start to fidget at an hour...by 90 minutes, their butt-cheeks start to
atrophy. I try to keep my acts below or at an hour -- of course
that's not always possible, but it's nice to try -- which often means
judicious cutting. (I am prepared for the flames...)

As a first opera, Don G was an ambitious choice. Think about
Puccini...his acts are much shorter, and concession sales
love that. And yes, stay away from Wagner, unless you
are prepared to bring a cot.

Mxsmanic

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Richard Leighton <blr...@redconnect.net> wrote in message
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> As a first opera, Don G was an ambitious choice.

I'd like to say that it was a choice based on long reflection, but in fact I
chose it because ... that's what was playing at the opera house!

But next month is _Carmen_, and that will definitely be a deliberate choice.

> And yes, stay away from Wagner, unless you
> are prepared to bring a cot.

I like the music, but I don't think I could stand to sit still for four or
five hours straight, even with breaks.

Karen Mercedes

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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Is it me, or did the title of this thread conjure up an image that had
nothing to do with the length of the OPERA?

KM
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Karen Mercedes

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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On Sat, 5 Feb 2000, David Meadows wrote:

> james jorden wrote:
> >
> > Naked singers do not substitute for the erotic thrill of a blazing high C.
> > -- Stephanie von Buchau
>
> Okay, I'm game. In what context was this assertion made?
>
> D.M.
>


A bad performance of SALOME perhaps.

Audrey L. Zwingli

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Karen Mercedes wrote in message ...

>Is it me, or did the title of this thread conjure up an image that had
>nothing to do with the length of the OPERA?
>
>KM


Not until now it didn't....

yuck.

;)

Audrey

andre35

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Feb 7, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/7/00
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It's not just you. Steve Silverman and I, great minds both, made much
the same post on Saturday. Imagination is funny, it makes a cloudy
day.....etc............
Andre

Karen Mercedes wrote:

> Is it me, or did the title of this thread conjure up an image that had
> nothing to do with the length of the OPERA?
>
> KM

si...@webtv.net

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I could easily be mistaken but I was under the impression that the naked
singers quote was in reference to either Maria Ewing or Catherine
Malfitano's taking on the role of Salome, both substituting nudity for a
lack of high notes. Personally, I'd rather the high notes John

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the idiots


Harpsichordist

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Feb 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM2/8/00
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>I could easily be mistaken but I was under the impression that the naked
>singers quote was in reference to either Maria Ewing or Catherine
>Malfitano's taking on the role of Salome, both substituting nudity for a
>lack of high notes. Personally, I'd rather the high notes

Having seen Miss Ewing do this, I know she doesnt have the notes. I just bought
a video of Miss Malfitano doing this in Berlin, and the notes were there. So
were the tits.
markie

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G Riggs

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Karen Mercedes wrote in message ...
>Is it me, or did the title of this thread conjure up an image that had
>nothing to do with the length of the OPERA?
>
>KM
><snip>


That's it: Don Giovanni's life was just one long (er, short) attempt to
compensate for his being "Challenged"<g>.

Geoffrey Riggs

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