Birgit Nilsson as Sieglinde?
Terrymelin
he said the best Sieglinde he ever saw was Birgit Nilsson. Now, he started
going to the opera in the 1970s. I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
when her last Sieglinde was??
Terry Ellsworth
Edward A. Cowan
> I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
> sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
> when her last Sieglinde was??
I'm not certain as to when Birgit Nilsson last sang Sieglinde, but her
performance in that part may be heard in the 1957 Bayreuth _Ring_ cond.
Hans Knappertsbusch. She also sings a Norn in the 1957
_Götterdämmerung_.
-- E.A.C.
Ivrys88
> I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
> sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
> when her last Sieglinde was??
She sang Sieglinde at the Met as late as 1974-75, with Vickers as Siegmund. I
believe Berit Lindholm was Brunnhilde, but am not sure. Someone with the Met
annals should be able to provide more accurate information.
TColl65159
back the hands of time and go to one performance i have missed this would be
it! Not sure of the date but certainly mid to late 70s
trev(UK)
Jon A Conrad
the Met, all in the 1974-75 season (all in 1975 in fact):
Feb 20 (Lindholm, Vickers, Stewart, Dunn; cond. Ehrling)
[on Feb 25 and Mar 1 Janis Martin did Sieglinde]
Mar 8 (Hunter, Hoelseth, McIntyre, Dunn)
Mar 11 (Hunter, Vickers, McIntyre, Reynolds)
Apr 8 (Hunter, Vickers, McIntyre, Reynolds)
During this period, all four RING operas were performed, but the only way
to piece together a consecutive "cycle" would be the Saturday afternoon
broadcasts at 2-week intervals (other operas on the intervening weeks).
For these (and, on a brief inspection, only these) broadcast matinees,
Nilsson resumed the role of Bruennhilde (one being the Mar 1 WALKEURE
listed above). Berit Lindholm did most of the SIEGFRIEDs and
GOETTERDAEMMERUNGs; Nilsson was at this time promoting her as "my
successor."
Jon Alan Conrad
Department of Music
University of Delaware
con...@udel.edu
james jorden
Leonie Rysanek, who canceled. The schedule that year included 3 cycles of the RING
as well as additional performances of WALKUERE -- plus TOSCA and ROSENKAVALIER.
Nilsson's announced repertoire was one cycle of the RING, plus several performances
each of Tosca and the Marschallin.
When Rysanek pulled out of the WALKUREs, Nilsson took over the Sieglinde, leaving
open the Marschallins and Toscas. Magda Olivero at age 65 took over the TOSCA
performances and made an enormous sensation.
I want to say Kubiak or maybe Marian Lippert did the Marschallins, but I honestly
don't remember. I do recall that on the broadcast WALKUERE, when the curtain went
up on Act Two, revealing Nilsson, the audience responsed with a big burst of
applause -- the last time, surely, anyone got entrance applause in a Wagner opera
at the Met.
(Of course, this did not turn out to be Nilsson's *real* final season at the Met -
she returned in 1979 for a concert, then ELEKTRA and FRAU OHNE SCHATTEN in
following seasons. Her last official Met appearance *as a singer* was at the
Centennial Gala in 1983, when she sang the pants off Isolde's Narrative.)
Terrymelin wrote:
> I was having a discussion with a friend after Walkure at the MET last week and
> he said the best Sieglinde he ever saw was Birgit Nilsson. Now, he started
> going to the opera in the 1970s. I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
> sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
> when her last Sieglinde was??
>
> Terry Ellsworth
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Terrymelin
that Nilsson's 1974-75 Met Sieglinde's (which now I remember!) were her first
since the late 1950s??
Terry Ellsworth
Ivrys88
In "My Memoirs in Pictures," Nilsson states that she did not sing Sieglinde
between 1957 (Bayreuth) and 1975 (Met).
richard loeb
sings that charming Swedish folk song - even Milanov looked happy.
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dtritter
varnay's december 6, 1941 met debut as sieglinde was as a replacement
for an indisposed lotte lehmann, and traubel sang burnnhilde in the same
performance. varnay's brunnhilde in the same month (december 1941) was
not as a replacement; that had been her originally scheduled debut...as
recounted in great detail in "55 years in 5 acts," at last to be issued
in its original english version by northeastern university press in
november.
and of course, she sang all the brunnhilde roles many times at the met
and in europe...the great lady turned 82 just 3 weeks ago [ i spoke to
her yesterday, just in case ancona 21 is hungry for a barb or two as a
warmup for mother's day ] and is in fine health in munich.
dft
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james jorden <jjo...@bellatlantic.net> wrote:
Not that such minutiae matter, but Nilsson's biggest sensation as I
recall in all three Sieglindes was when she put her leg over Jon
Vickers'. The audience gasped and some moaned! At the first
performance, Nothung broke in half at the end of act one and flew into
the scrim which was there (luckily). Vickers shrugged.
As for the Toscas that season, Magda did three, but there was an old
fashioned parade, including Vishneyvskaya -- the performance of a life
time -- for a youngish queen anyway. Zylis-Gara did most of the Toscas,
including those with Bergonzi where he had a very bad thrachiitis but
sang powerfully anyway. Bacquier was her Scarpia. James King did many
of the Cavaradossis and Wixell was a more typical Scarpia. But I think
at least one Tosca that season was Niska/Merrill (but I might be
thinking of the season before, where his death grunt got a big laugh).
Marshsciallins as far as I recall were all Zylis-Gara; Lippert had
already been booed off the stage for a summer Turandot with Franco and
Zylis. I think Kubiak did some Toscas -- though the best was in New
Jersey with Domingo (he bis-ed "e lucevan") and Tito Gobbi. Gobbi had
one Scarpia at the Met in 1976 with Dotty Kirsten where both were
fabulous. Their accumilated ages were Methusalean (?) at least 900 (he
was probably 60 something, so do the math. I always thought Dotty had
the funniest obit, she does seem to have shaved a generation off her
age, only Marian Anderson as far as I know pretended to be so much
younger than she really was). They don't make 'em like that any more.
Emma Albani
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OpraCraZ
schedule the season of Nilsson's Sieglinde's. I think the Nilsson
Marschallins should have happened the season before and were taken by
Evelyn Lear. I remeber the substitution was late enough that Nilsson
was listed in Opera News. This was the season of the Gotterdammerung
premier but her injury happened at the dress rehearsal (didn't it?) so
that shouldn't have played a part in this.
For what it's worth.
Mark
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Mark
OpraCraZ
or....) did sing the Marschallins the following season.
Mark
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james jorden
like three performances each of Tosca and the Marschallin, presumably to be
sandwiched in among her three Brunnhildes spread over four weeks.
OpraCraZ
Rosenkavalier was not in the repertoire the season that Nilsson sang
Sieglinde (Feb. 20, March 8 and March 11, 1975). So I'm going to stick
with my guess that the Nilsson Marschallin performances should have
happened the season before. Evelyn Lear sang three performances of
Rosenkavalier, including the broadcast and was then spelled by Christa
Ludwig. Anybody know for sure? Now I'm wondering what really happened.
The other thing is that the Vishnevskaya/Olivero (or any other) Tosca
performances didn't overlap Nilssons Sieglinde's or her scheduled
Brunnhilde's. So it's not clear who they were subbing for. Anybody
know? Anybody care besides me?
Regards,
Mark
P.S. Don't mind me, I used to be obsessive about taking each Opera News
I received and listing by singer the date and role sung for each season.
I would cast entire seasons down to the Parpignol and Guards in
Boheme, casting debuts from scouring the reviews for singers that
weren't at the MET but sounded like they should be....Don't get me
started on my adolescence! <gr>
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MD
which I don't own. But most libraries have it. I don't recall that she
was scheduled for any ROSENKAVALIER performances at the Met, ever, as it's a
role she dropped early on. I think she merely had to give up some TOSCA
performances to do the Sieglinde's. I have a tape of one of them, and she's
in fabulous voice, though far too heroic for the role. Her 'O hehrstes
Wunder' almost brings the ceiling down!!
Interestingly enough, Nilsson WAS scheduled to do some Ariadne's at the Met,
but they jerked the schedule around, and rudely informed her of some of the
changes by shoving a crumpled piece of paper under her hotel room door!!
End of Ariadne as far as Nilsson was concerned! Don't irritate the Golden
Goose......
David Shengold
With my inexhaustible curiosity about the also-rans I would like to hear
more about soprano Marion Lippert. I remember when I sat down to read
decades' worth of OPERA NEWS magazines reading a piece about how wonderful
Boehm and co. thought herat a ROSENKAVALIER rehearsal; and then something
about Crespin yelling at the Paris Opera gallery, "Vous etes des
laches!"when they booed Lippert as Turandot. Maybe two years later.
So what was the deal? Was anyone on rmo present at her performances at the
Met or anywhere else? Impresseions?
-David Shengold
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OpraCraZ <381...@my-deja.com> wrote:
Well, I remember (danger! Danger!) That Nilsson was scheduled for some
Toscas and cancelled. There may have been a conversation about other
roles. That was when the Tosca parade happened that included Olivero.
Rosenkavalier is a seperate issue. Lear then Ludwig did sing the roles,
I saw both and remember loving Edith Mathis very much (as Sophie). I am
not at all convinced they were in for Nilsson. I think the season she
was down for some Rosenkavalier's was the season Zylis-Gara did them
(but she was already scheduled to do most of them). I think Nilsson was
unhappy with the Chapin regime at the Met. For one thing, Ligendza was
engaged for the new production of Tristan. Even though she had done
only one (inaudible) Fidelio then fled New York (I thought Ligendza a
wonderful small to mid house singer, not a Met size voice). When
Ligendza cancelled, as Nilsson had foretold she would, Kubelik
suggested Tosca with Nilsson who refused suggesting since they had come
up with an Isolde greater than she once (irony, irony) they could do it
twice (irony, irony). Thus it happened that Klara Barlow got the first
Isoldes (I thought she was better than Jane Eaglen). Nilsson had a long
memory and was never happy after that, I think.
But all this is off the top of a dizzy head so it's only theorizing.
Emma Albani
OpraCraZ
about was a revival, not the new production which Nilsson sang with
Jess Thomas, one of Bings last seasons. Barlow replaced Ligendza but
Nilsson did sing one or two Isoldes that season, one of which with
Vickers I think. No??
I really wish I could remember when Nilsson was scheduled for those
Marschallin's. Zylis-Gara did it the first time the following season
which might make sense since this is when Nilsson ran into the tax
problem. But I really think it was earlier than '76. Isn't that when
Troyanos came and I'm pretty sure Nilsson wasn't schedule with Troyanos.
The 72'-'73 Rosenkavaliers were all done by Rysanek....hmmmmm!!!
Regards,
Mark
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David Shengold <shen...@pobox.upenn.edu> wrote:
>
> With my inexhaustible curiosity about the also-rans I would like to
hear
performances at the
> Met or anywhere else? Impresseions?
>
> -David Shengold
>
stopped the show alright -- the audience upstairs just erupted in rage
in the middle of act two. Poor Franco thinking they were mad at him
came all the way downstage, gulped air, left out everything before the
high C (from "no, no" on) and then held that high C until several grown
men and one weak woman fainted in my vicinity. That did not help
Marion. You take poor Carlo's shot at Otello and subtract something
(except volume) and you have Marion. BTW, I remember being an
indecently avid and only moderately overweight young amazon at the time
and reading that Opera News piece and asking my New York sisters --
they thought she had even been a big fraud at the rehearsals. Well, she
probably gave Gauleiter Bohm the Nazi Salute and he said that about her.
I suppose Bjorner/King was pretty bad by some standards. But even given
Franco, Zylis was the best thing that night and many other nights too.
Customoper
with boos and shouts, such as "Chapin resign."
It was one of the wildest nights at the Met. She was simply awful.
Ed
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I remeber a review in the Times which began "Oh no,
Mr. Bing, this just won't do.". Was it about Luisa
Malagrida?? I don't remember.
Malagrida - what a name for a singer.
Anyhow the wildest night in my NY memory was the
Suliotis NORMA at Carnegie Hall when the audience
literally stopped the performance. Callas and Martinelli
were both in the audience. It was gala in every sense.
My dear late friend Peter - a well known Met usher
for many years insisted that Nancy Tatum as Adalgisa
messed Suliotis up with some strange off pitch singing
in the "Mira O Norma"
Peter, dear - talk about denial!! Just WHAT was strange and
WHAT was off pitch. (Everyone say "guilty")
He pronounced it 'ta-toom" - hated her until the day
he died.
And you hadda hear Eddie Ruhl - remember him?
Tom Schermann used him a coupla times - made
Robert Nagy sound like Luigi Alva.
Sigh - Oh, the memories!
Joe
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custo...@aol.com (Customoper) wrote:
Matthew B. Tepper
sca...@specdata.com is reputed to have iterated as follows...
>
>There were some pretty horrible nights in those days!
>
>I remeber a review in the Times which began "Oh no, Mr. Bing, this just
>won't do.". Was it about Luisa Malagrida?? I don't remember.
>
>Malagrida - what a name for a singer.
Like Leif Roar or Peter Schreier! Time for the old thread once more!
>Anyhow the wildest night in my NY memory was the Suliotis NORMA at
>Carnegie Hall when the audience literally stopped the performance.
>Callas and Martinelli were both in the audience. It was gala in every
>sense.
>
>My dear late friend Peter - a well known Met usher for many years
>insisted that Nancy Tatum as Adalgisa messed Suliotis up with some
>strange off pitch singing in the "Mira O Norma"
>
>Peter, dear - talk about denial!! Just WHAT was strange and WHAT was
>off pitch. (Everyone say "guilty")
>
>He pronounced it 'ta-toom" - hated her until the day he died.
>
>And you hadda hear Eddie Ruhl - remember him? Tom Schermann used him a
>coupla times - made Robert Nagy sound like Luigi Alva.
>
>Sigh - Oh, the memories!
>
>Joe
>
>In article <20000516121648...@ng-cr1.aol.com>,
>custo...@aol.com (Customoper) wrote:
>
>> I remember the Marion Lippert Turandot performance. The audience went
>> crazy with boos and shouts, such as "Chapin resign."
>> It was one of the wildest nights at the Met. She was simply awful.
>>
>> Ed
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>> please e-mail your name and mailing address
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> With my inexhaustible curiosity about the also-rans I would like to
> [...] something about Crespin yelling at the Paris Opera gallery,
> Maybe two years later.
>
> at the Met or anywhere else? Impressions?
I heard Lippert sing one Turandot at the Paris Opera, a summer
performance in the early 1970's (the date is eluding me). I was
up in the gods and it was my first live Turandot, so I may not
have been the most critical listener or the best-placed to form
a mature judgment. I thought she was perfectly okay, and there was
certainly no unseemly behavior by the audience the night I went.
If Lippert was howled off the stage by a New York audience accustomed to
the tuneless screaming of the lady who was considered assoluta in
this role at the time at the Met, she must have been truly
frightening on that occasion. But that wasn't what I heard in Paris,
of that I am sure.
It would be a waste of a time-travel ticket to go back
to hear either of them sing that role (get me a ticket to hear
Turner, or Raisa, please); but if those were the only performers
available for a hop back to 1970 to hear TURANDOT, I'd take the ticket
to hear Lippert, and leave the Nilsson evening for one of her
enthusiasts. Probably everyone who reads this will disagree,
but that's what makes horse racing.
Christopher H. Walker
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> I remember the Marion Lippert Turandot performance. The audience went crazy
> with boos and shouts, such as "Chapin resign."
> It was one of the wildest nights at the Met. She was simply awful.
>
> Ed
> For free catalog of live opera on CD, video, and audio cassettes, please e-mail
jimjohn...@gmail.com
> With my inexhaustible curiosity about the also-rans I would like to hear
> decades' worth of OPERA NEWS magazines reading a piece about how wonderful
> laches!"when they booed Lippert as Turandot. Maybe two years later.
>
> So what was the deal? Was anyone on rmo present at her performances at the
>
> -David Shengold
>
> I heard her as Turandot at the Met--probably around 1970. It was the only time I ever heard boos (many) in that theater. It must have been an off night, judging by this-
https://oberon481.typepad.com/oberons_grove/2019/09/marion-lippert.html
yonke...@att.net
> I was having a discussion with a friend after Walkure at the MET last week and
> he said the best Sieglinde he ever saw was Birgit Nilsson. Now, he started
> going to the opera in the 1970s. I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
> sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
> when her last Sieglinde was??
>
> Terry Ellsworth
http://archives.metoperafamily.org/archives/frame.htm
It can answer all these types of questions.
Best
Mike
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> I was having a discussion with a friend after Walkure at the MET last week and
> he said the best Sieglinde he ever saw was Birgit Nilsson. Now, he started
> going to the opera in the 1970s. I was fairly sure that the last time Nilsson
> sang a staged Sieglinde was in the late 1950s. Can anyone out there confirm
> when her last Sieglinde was??
>
> Terry Ellsworth