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dtritter

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apologies for thelength, but when innaurato lies at length, the response
must be in kind

poor failed playwright, disastrous psychopath albert innaurato. like
many who seek to elevate their pitiful hatreds to truth, he goes on
endlessly.

witnesseth this venomous lying garbage, his typical product:

? i am daniel f. tritter, an> attorney in manhattan,

Well, only in a manner of speaking. My lawyers discovered you are not a
partner at any firm. At your age an embarrassment. They could not
discover for certain that you were practicing. You teach at a college
one of them described as "dinky", possibly as an adjunct. At your age
more than an embarrassment.

demonstrating once again the idiocy that animates this pathetic drone. i
am solo practitioner by choice and never wanted to be a member of a
large firm. the profession has many able lawyers who make that choice,
and martindale-hubbell gives me an "av" rating, the highest in both
ability and ethics [two strangers to the innaurato lexicon].


married for many years to a soprano who sang at
> the met, la scala, vienna, munich, in fact nearly everywhere for a
> couple of decades, noted by most reputable listeners as an important
> artist.>

Well, as it happens Marcella D'Osma sang more often at all those places
and not as a cover. Your wife, known as Rita TrainShitter to the
cognoscenti, sang mostly as a cover at the Met, and was an also ran on
the international circuit. Unlike Cheryl Studer for example who you
have defamed, your wife made no prominent widely distributed
recordings, and had no important opening nights anywhere at any time.
Unlike Studer, your wife did not gain the interest or attention of any
major conductor. She was the poor Jews Beverly Sills, and even the
Hadassah Ladies would lament her presence.

this pitiful creti has to resort to grammar school namecalling to make
his non-point. the point itself is a lie. in all of rita shane's nearly
4-score met performances, 3 were as a cover [and she got glowing press
for all three]. want to prove your lie with evidence, fat albert?
i have criticized studer but never defamed her. she is in fact a good
singer who has made fatal mid-career decisions and suffered for them.
naturally your not-quite-anti-semitic [though the tone is obvious even
to your moronic audience] remark merely exposes [if it were further
possible] the antisocial pigsty that is your thinking.

<she has been retired for more than a decade and a half<

And not a minute too soon.

conrad osborne, whom i do not know, but leaves innaurato in his puerile
closet for musical knowledge, recently told a mutual friend,
unsolicited, that he had profound respect for rita shane as in that
minority of singers who did not overstay their welcome, but retired at
the height of her powers. as to premieres, she sang one world premiere
[read any reviews of Argento's "Miss Havisham's Fire" and see what a
liar innaurato is] and three american premieres. as to the fanciful
judgments of innaurato, they are his usual garbage.

< and is a> highly reputable professor of voice at one of the world's
leading> conservatories, as well as privately.<

Kill all the lawyers, wrote Shakespeare; massacre all the voice
teachers every single singer I know has cried. I've played for many,
most are frauds, including those who had minor careers.

if your playing [$10 an hour, 10 cents a dance, fat albert?] is as bad
as your stupidity on the better voice teachrs, i pity the students who
have had to tolerate you. you've been around so many frauds, including
yoursel, for so lomng that you can't tell the difference. do you know a
single student, past or prresent that has anything negative to say about
this teacher?

> she has never influenced a single> opinion of mine in the field of opera and in fact my listening career> predates our first meeting by about 15 years.<

A pity. Rita was lousy but has been described to me as bright. You have
been described to me as (your pardon ladies) "pussy whipped". There is
a story several people told me of you and Rita at a party where
according to them (and I wasn't there and couldn't prove this) she just
about beat you to death with her purse and finally dragged you home.
Your grotesque behavior here, your braggadoccio certainly lends
credence to the stories.

the only grotesque behaviour is that of you in this flagrant
lie....carefully disguised as "i wasn't there"...and why don't you
produce the source of this fiction, if it is anybody but albert
innaurato. you've been peddling gossip and lies so long, truth would
come to you as a bad dream in your tortured nights.

From your rare postings about opera and voice you are a ludicrous,
pretentious idiot.

condemned out of his own drooling mouth. poor albert. match my friends
in the business against yours?

> i am moderately gratified to read the modified grovel of albert
> innaurato,<

Albert Innaurato retracted something Emma Albani had written as
requested by "Anonymous". He fufilled a contract proposed
by "Anonymous". Though I have information about your practices with
certain singers (and it is in the hands of my lawyers) of course Emma
Albani could not prove whether you had cashed a particular check, or
whether charges you had levied were for "expenses" or "fees". And
perhaps you paid for Varnay's expenses out of your own pocket. Emma
Albani has no evidence you acted illegally or, by legal definition,
inappropriately. On the other hand Bill Clinton contrived to have sex
without having sex by legal definition.

albert, emma, disma, any of his disguises: he/she/it lied, was
threatened with a legitimate defamation suit and backed down like the
sniveling coward he has always been. and now he tries to put his spin on
the events. if that's his truth, god help us all.

> though i suspect he must have sought a legal opinion rather
> than felt a semblance of well deserved shame.<

I did indeed consult my lawyers. They are famous, powerful and not
teaching or living off their wives. They are both partners at an
esteemed law firm. Neither wife is a nobody nor a mediocrity. They have
every post you and James Jorden have posted here as well as
the "private" e-mails you have sent me, as recently as 9/2 which they
have construed as threatening and harrassing. They are researching the
possibility of suit for libel, slander, defamation, malicious
misrepresentation and stalking. I fully intend to follow it through.
This is a new area. But an interesting one to them.

listen, albert: i invite your two powerful lawyers to complete their
research [i know the law of defamation and do not need research on your
obvious case]. not giving a rat's ass what powerful firms they work for,
i invite....got that? invite...them to bring an action against me,
though i suspect that you couldn't afford to engage their office boy. if
they think you have a case, they are a good deal less capable than their
proclaimed eminence purports to be.

> the libel has been retracted, though he has returned to his usual
quotient of contumaceous spew<

The allegations which you are calling "libel" were retracted. Did Rita
teach you that word -- contumaceous? You are as unintelligent and eye
glazedly stupid as Skip to my Loo. And as insecure.

my bloated albert, i have mastered that word starting in 1954, when i
learned it during the army-mccarthy hearings and the subsequent
dethroning of another carbuncle on the anus of society.


> lest fat albert or any other reader think it a mere threat, i have in
> fact prepared half of the complaint against him and shall desist for
the nonce,<

What an amazing fool you are. Hey nonny nonny nonce. That's no longer
even English. You know, I'm begining to think even Skip to my Loo is a
little brighter than you. I realize you were in the Marines during
World War Two, I assume spit polishing the boots of the goys you wished
to be (who else would insert their Jewishness everywhere?).

keep it up, fat albert. the more you vomit, the more your product is
exposed. where did i expose my jewishness, by the way? or is that just
another infectious disease of the innaurato cranium?

Perhaps what little brain you had is a crumble with age? I don't know.
But I have been told of your severe prostrate trouble and a recurring
problem, possibly palsy, with your hand. Now, I haven't seen your
medical records so that is hear say and possibly malicious gossip (you
have many enemies) but I suspect blind and deaf Helen Keller would
tremble at the touch of your medical records. And as for your IQ she
could manage a single, indicting, "VERRRRY LOWWWW".

prostate? that will come as news to my physician, whom i saw just
yesterday. palsy? i think you have that confused with your friendship
with various frequenters of the public lavatories.

> not destroying it, based upon my well founded guess that there will
be a next time.<

<fat albert>

Thank you for adding to a potential complaint against you
and a likely defense. As one of my lawyers said, "any one calling
you "fat albert", using such erratic diction, using inappropriate
capitalizations, is in my opinion mentally unbalanced. Any complaint
filed could be viewed as harrassment, particularly if you fufilled the
contract proposed by someone calling himself 'anonymous'".

keep talking to those famour lawyers. if this is the level of their
information, we should have some fun.

> the problem with some south philly mommies, or at least one, is that
> they didn't wash out the mouths of their foulmouthed issue with soap
and> clean off the lice before they infected their little one's brains.
the> blighted result can be read here constantly under the nom de
crotteur of emma albani.<

Thank you again. I have already forwarded this post to my lawyers. Tues
will be time enough for them to be more and more shocked by the sheer
pointless ugliness of your postings. They noticed the racism in your
posts, and they felt that would go effectively to countering any suit
you filed.

racism? racism! al sharpton rides again!

However, as one said "you never know with these types, so if
we have no absolute proof best to retract and eat some crow". So Albert
Innaurato retracted on behalf of "Emma Albani". "Emma Albani" had no
proof of those allegations.

<you are> almost as entertaining as alfred rosenberg. now rush to your
> biographical dictionary and ask who that was...or check your back
issue> files of volkische beobaechter.<

Thank you again. There is no evidence in any work of mine, widely
published as I am that I am an anti-semite. So that is libel and
defamation. Of course we all know of Jews who supported the Nazis, and
Jews who act like them. My lawyers as it happens are Jewish. They were
very embarrassed that you were using your ethnicity as some kind of
pulpit to defame, slander, libel and insult someone you don't know,
without cause. Is that Jewish to you? It seemed contrary to everything
they think of as Jewish.

fat albert, you were a lot more amusing when you were discussing [or was
it exhibiting?] the contents of your toilet bowl.

By the way, I have also discovered that JUDGE HOFF is a troll who lives
under a fjord and posted on Opera-L asking how to dress for the opera.
He's your friend and ally.

I take your threat seriously but you're both ghastly jokes.

that must be the distinguished norwegian judge whom you gratuitously
tried to associate with the nazi traitor vikdun quisling. what a
contmptible creature you are!

well so much for the holiday...get your bids in for fat albert's
lawyers. do you suppose that he promised to pay their fees via
contributions to uja? not bloody likely.


dft


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HenryFogel

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>Subject: albert innaurato, the chronic liar
>From: dtritter dtri...@bway.net
>Date: Sat, 04 September 1999 10:32 AM EDT
>Message-id: <37D12D96...@bway.net>


I must say, this exchange is much like a truly bad accident on the highway. One
wishes it hadn't happened, one feels sorry for all of the participants, but one
cannot stop oneself from looking.

Henry Fogel

Feuillade

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henry...@aol.com writes:

<big snip>

> I must say, this exchange is much
> like a truly bad accident on the
> highway. One wishes it hadn't
> happened, one feels sorry for all
> of the participants, but one
> cannot stop oneself from looking.

It *does* appeal to the grisly voyeur in all of us, doesn't it? Much like
professional wrestling.

Fortunately for me my appetite for this kind of thing isn't large, so I'm happy
to leave it to the participants -- who are probably the only people who really
care about the outcome.

Most people know enough to avoid threads with headings like this, I think.

And anyone who reads them pretty much knows what they're getting, so they can't
really complain about it.


Tom Moran

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emma_...@my-deja.com

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In article <37D12D96...@bway.net>,

dtri...@bway.net wrote:
>
> poor failed playwright, disastrous psychopath albert innaurato. like
> many who seek to elevate their pitiful hatreds to truth, he goes on
> endlessly.
>
> witnesseth this venomous lying garbage, his typical product:
>
> ? i am daniel f. tritter, an> attorney in manhattan,

I will spare readers; he attacks my statement about his failure then
goes on to confirm it.

> this pitiful creti (sic) has to resort to grammar school namecalling
to make
> his non-point.<

If anyone on rmo is still reading -- please note the above. <grammar
school namecalling<. You mean like Tritter's calling me "fat albert"
(notice case please), referring to my mother, Italians with lice?

> conrad osborne, whom i do not know<

I do know "conrad osborne (sic)" very well indeed. He thought you and
your wife were too embarrassing to talk about. That is the general
consensus "in the business". Your carrying on about your wife as you do
simply diminishes her more and more. She is a nobody like you. It's
that simple. I have no idea what she knows about singing. But you know
nothing about it.

> [read any reviews of Argento's "Miss Havisham's Fire" and see what a
> liar innaurato is]<

I was there. To suggest that since she could make a career no other way
but had to learn a short difficult new work to keep her unillustrious
name before the public of a lesser opera house (the City Opera in
decline) is somehow not to suggest she was Luisa Tetrazzini reborn.
Your rampages and ramblings about Rita TrainShitter, finally pathetic,
have changed my impression of her from a decent professional who didn't
achieve much to a notion that any woman who would put up with a true
and utter creep like you had to have failed for a reason beyond bad
luck. Moreover, the performances I saw her give were all poor. RMO
people with some interest can try a pirate, Lawyer Tritter's friend,
the thief, Charles Handelman, I'm sure, sells several in awful sound
but at large prices but I have the awful Huguenots in mind with Gedda.

< do you know a
> single student, past or prresent that has anything negative to say
about
> this teacher?<

Are you referring to that failure, your wife or have you gone off the
tracks again? Can you name a single student of "this teacher" who has
made a career?

>
> the only grotesque behaviour is that of you in this flagrant
> lie....<

Well, depending on my mood, I may start posting what people say about
you and Rita. Two have already offered me the use of their names
because they were there. That your name in particular elicits howls of
laughter, sir, strikes me.

> listen, albert: i invite your two powerful lawyers to complete their
> research<

They don't need an invitation. Internet law is still in its infancy.
Posts like this one of yours, illiterate, hysterical, full of lies
speak for themselves. Their only caution has been that as a public
figure I would be expected to put up with more of this than any
ordinary person. You know that. So the name calling "failed playwright"
and all the rest is you spinning your wheels. It is you and Rita and
James Jorden who have the closest acquaintance with failure. But rats
have a kind of power in our system.

[i know the law of defamation<

"i" know," like you know when to use caps? According to my lawyers you
are a borderline case. They mean legally. You are careful to stay to a
tiny degree within some safe area since I am a public figure and a
famous one (better known than Rita Shane for example, not reduced to
teaching as she is, or as you are when obviously you'd both rather be
doing something else)

> i invite....got that? invite...them to bring an action against me,
> though i suspect that you couldn't afford to engage their office boy.
if
> they think you have a case, they are a good deal less capable than
their
> proclaimed eminence purports to be.<

You don't need to invite them and they have taken this on for expenses
because they want to see what can be done about libels and defamations
like yours and Jorden's, short of freezing free speech.

Your posts suggest a person profoundly unhappy throughout his life in
himself. Like the small man, you are a bully with a fake macho (I
assure you you would crumble should they decide to proceed against
you). You are obviously a self hating Jew, hence the constant harping
on it, and your racial bigotry (AL Sharpton? Attacking Latins?
Attacking Italians?). You have a total lack of self esteem.
Understandable since you've achieved nothing in your life or in your
wife. As with all such, you are full of rot you're compelled to spill
as though you matter, as though you could matter were you put to any
test. You're a flop and a fool, more self indicting with every single
sentence of every single post. And your wife just couldn't measure up.
She meant less than Laurel Hurley or Nadine Connor. And you are a
preposterous nothing, a joke and a creep. That's the view of everyone
I've talked to about you.

However, since I am quite serious about persuing a suit against you,
and have a great deal of material, I read your latest post to one of my
lawyers. He advised me, as other decent people have, to ignore you and
not respond to anything you write, but to print out everything and send
it immediately to him.

I don't know if I can beggar you as you allegedly beggared the tenor
Stuart Neil, forcing him and his family with young children onto
welfare with what appears to have a vicious "legal" action filled with
anti-Christian slurs (he posted that all here). But I can continue to
research and my lawyers are, as I say most interested to see what can
be done.

So please, Mr. Tritter keep it up. I'll be reading and keeping
everything you post about me. But you won't be hearing from me again in
this forum. Thank you.

Emma Albani

By the way, your harrasing e-mails full of bizarre sexual innuendo and
threats are not a light matter. The question of stalking is real. And
you are at risk for it.

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Di Luna57

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>Subject: Re: albert innaurato, the chronic liar
>From: feui...@aol.com (Feuillade)
>Date: Sat, 04 September 1999 02:09 PM EDT
>Message-id: <19990904140941...@ng-cr1.aol.com>

>
>henry...@aol.com writes:
>
>
>
>> I must say, this exchange is much
>> like a truly bad accident on the
>> highway. One wishes it hadn't
>> happened, one feels sorry for all
>> of the participants, but one
>> cannot stop oneself from looking.
>
>It *does* appeal to the grisly voyeur in all of us, doesn't it? Much like
>professional wrestling.

>
>Tom Moran

Personally, I think you're being unfair to professional wrestlers, who are
models of subtlety and dignity compared to some of our combatants.

di Luna

Skip

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Thank you DFT for all you kind words.......... I hope your wife's High C's are just as wonderful...........and from what I've been reading they were more of
a b natural.

Feuillade

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dilu...@aol.com writes:

> feui...@aol.com [writes]:

>> henry...@aol.com writes:

>>> I must say, this exchange is much
>>> like a truly bad accident on the
>>> highway. One wishes it hadn't
>>> happened, one feels sorry for all
>>> of the participants, but one
>>> cannot stop oneself from looking.

>> It *does* appeal to the grisly
>> voyeur in all of us, doesn't it?
>> Much like professional wrestling.

> Personally, I think you're being

> unfair to professional wrestlers,
> who are models of subtlety and
> dignity compared to some of our > combatants.

You have a point.

Anonymous

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emma_...@my-deja.com wrote:
>
[most of his cesspool is hardly worth noting, but the following lie is
in need of some factual material]

>
> I don't know if I can beggar you as you allegedly beggared the tenor
> Stuart Neil, forcing him and his family with young children onto
> welfare with what appears to have a vicious "legal" action filled with
> anti-Christian slurs (he posted that all here). But I can continue to
> research and my lawyers are, as I say most interested to see what can
> be done.
>

i didn't "beggar" stuart neill. i represented his former manager, to
whom he owed a substantial sum of money, following an ex post facto
fabricated letter of termination. after a series of forums in which he
was found to have lied extensively, he was found liable for a large
amount of money. in a continuing round of lies, he falsified his
residence to get a bankruptcy action started far from his actual home in
philadelphia, and [get this!] got the court to forgive his debts in the
face of nearly $400,000 income. so he walked away scot free. he has his
substantial fees, he now has a wife [he didn't then] and no known
chuildren. he has never been on welfare, and

innaurato continues to lie.

> So please, Mr. Tritter keep it up. I'll be reading and keeping
> everything you post about me. But you won't be hearing from me again in> this forum. Thank you.

fat albert may keep this one for his scrapbook too.


>
> Emma Albani
>
> By the way, your harrasing e-mails full of bizarre sexual innuendo and
> threats are not a light matter. The question of stalking is real. And
> you are at risk for it.

sexual inuendo? i read a reference to my so called hand ailment. i
suppose it was a reflection that if you had such a malady, you'd be
losing your only friend.

i'm going to miss you, albert. i shall also miss cancer, syphillis and
carbuncles. sweet dreams [see above].


dft

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dtritter

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addendum to the foregoing. i had the dubious pleasure of hearing an
edgardo caterwauled by neill in central park this summer. he sang like a
pig and had an avoirdupoids to match. tenors are plainly in short
supply.

Charlie

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Hey!!!The list of names of "enemies of Emma" is growing..notice the titles of
posts...on Moran,Tritter,Jorden,ME,etc.....if this keeps up,the list will be
innauratonundated with this kind of stuff.....I wonder why it happens???Can it
be that the creep is trying so hard (only thing in his life that gets hard) to
"bother" us..when we all have the last laugh...avec amore..Chuck
As ever Charlie,who invites you to check out my live opera website at:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/handelmania

Ivan Lalis

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At least you have something to write about.

Ivan

who invites you nowhere

Jeffrey F Lipton

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The best critique of her I remember was from my early opera-going days as a
junior high school student in Philadelphia in the 70s; after her Lucia Mad
Scene, a sole fan screamed quite loudly and audibly "Brava Joan Sutherland"...
More did not need to be said.

Jeff Lipton

Enzo62

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Jeffrey Lipton wrote:

Boorish behavior should always merit no comment.


Jason McVicker
"What is best in music is not to be found in the notes."
Gustav Mahler

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Just wait a short while. There will soon be a Rita Shane live CD on
the market, and you can all see just how great she was. A real
dramatic coloratura.


Best,
Ed

Ancona21

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Ed Rosen wrote:

<< There will soon be a Rita Shane live CD on
the market, >>

And who, dare one ask, will be peddling this little item?

Ancona21

Nemo me impune lacessit

edrosen1

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Hi-

For those interested, I would like to announce the formation of a new
company, Custom Opera, Inc.

More information will be sent by mail. If you wish the receive
information, please contact me privately by e-mail, or write to Custom
Opera, Inc., PO Box 150, Carle Place, NY 11514.


Best,
Ed

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Thanks for asking.

The name of the company, the founding of which I just posted, is Custom
Opera, Inc. Anyone interested can reach us at PO Box 150, Carle Place,
NY 11514.

Best,
Ed

edrosen1

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I neglected to mention the obvious: we will be dealing with operatic
performances on CD, audio, and video tape, with the best selection and
quality available.

Ed

edrosen1 wrote:

> Hi-
>
> For those interested, I would like to announce the formation of a new
> company, Custom Opera, Inc.
>
> More information will be sent by mail. If you wish the receive
> information, please contact me privately by e-mail, or write to Custom

> Opera, Inc., PO Box 150, Carle Place, NY 11514.
>
> Best,
> Ed

Matthew B. Tepper

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In article <37DA869E...@earthlink.net>, edro...@earthlink.net
pondered what I'm pondering as follows...

>
>Hi-
>
>For those interested, I would like to announce the formation of a new
>company, Custom Opera, Inc.
>
>More information will be sent by mail. If you wish the receive
>information, please contact me privately by e-mail, or write to Custom
>Opera, Inc., PO Box 150, Carle Place, NY 11514.
>
>
>Best,
>Ed

Okay, let's see.... This is posted in the opera newsgroup, but it's
about opera. Is it cross-posted to bunches of newsgroups? Not that I
can tell. Is it something illegal? What am I, a freakin' cop?
Therefore, no denunciatory response is warranted from me.

I have just publicly shared my thought-processes with all of you (not
that that will necessarily exempt me from "universal scorn," i.e., two
or three people grouching). Relax; it may be minutes or hours before
I'll ever do this sort of thing again!

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Ernani415

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Ed,

Great to hear about another source of live operatic CDs etc. What is going to
be different about this one? How is it going to be different from Legato? Or
Allegro? Any particular focus?

e

Ancona21

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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<< we will be dealing with operatic
performances on CD, audio, and video tape, with the best selection and
quality available. >>

And what percentage of this material will be pirated?

Anonymous

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Ancona21 wrote:
>
> << we will be dealing with operatic
> performances on CD, audio, and video tape, with the best selection and
> quality available. >>
>
> And what percentage of this material will be pirated?
>

that rather depends upon the copyright claimant's auggestion [or
prosecution] on infringement grounds...
this newsgroup has to be the site of more self-proclaimed virtue than
anyplace north of jerry falwell's liberty university!
don't you all feel cleansed?
let he who is without sin...etc.

Tristan848

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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I hope it's all pirated, in good sound, and will give me the opportunity to
hear performances that record companies were too stupid and greedy to record.
The question of how much would be pirated was sarcastic, self-righteous and
ridiculous.

Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Bravo, Tristan! I prefer to buy "legal" recordings, if available (for the sake
of their usually superior technical quality, if for nothing else), but when it's
a choice of "pirated" (I prefer "bootlegged") or not available at all, ever, I'm
on the side of the "pirates" every time!!!!!

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
to Ancona21
YOU GUESS!!!!

Ancona21 wrote:

> << we will be dealing with operatic
> performances on CD, audio, and video tape, with the best selection and
> quality available. >>
>
> And what percentage of this material will be pirated?
>

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
to Ancona21
Just the Corelli performances!

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
to Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)
You are obviously a tremendously intelligent woman!

Ed

edrosen1

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
to Tristan848
You are obviously a tremendously intelligent fellow!

Ed

si...@webtv.net

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Sep 11, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/11/99
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Dear Ed: how is this different from Lyric Distributors, Legato, and
Opera Classics which have all carried the exact same merchandise and who
have all had a tendency towards slow fulfillment of orders? I mean
nothing disrespectful by asking this but I am curious but satisfied
enough (despite current frustration with Opera Classics) to want more
info about your new company. May I also wish you the best of luck with
it? John


Tom Kaufman

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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Bravo, Ed:

Please let me voice my delight at these news.

Wonderful--and three cheers for pirates who bring us what we want and can't get
otherwise.

Dom Tomas

Tom Kaufman
URL of web site:
www.geocities.com/Vienna/8917/index.html


edrosen1

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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This is an entirely new enterprise, and though some of the live performance
tapes may be the same, many will be different.

I am not associated with Opera Classics at this juncture, and know nothing
of their customer service, speedy, slow, or otherwise.

With Custom Opera Inc,. we are aiming for the very best in customer
service. We will start small, and, hopefully, expand. This is what I've
done for 33 years, and I hope I've learned from my mistakes, and that I have
the benefit of the 33 years of experience. Give us a shot. You won't be
sorry.

BTW, anybody in the NY area, who might be seeking employment and can work on
Long Island, please get it touch with me privately. We may need somebody
quite soon. Computer knowledge very important. Opera knowledge too. And
lifting and packing boxes is also part of the job!


Best,
Ed

Ancona21

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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<< You are obviously a tremendously intelligent woman!

Ed>>

And as opportunistic a practictioner of situational ethics as Mr. Rosen.

Ancona21

"Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)" wrote:

>when it's
> a choice of "pirated" (I prefer "bootlegged") or not available at all, ever,
I'm
> on the side of the "pirates" every time!!!!! >>

Nemo me impune lacessit

Charlie

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the inimitable
innaurato so rotten and mean?Is it their genes? is it their lack of friends? Is
it something in their food? I guess what Henny Youngman said might apply "When
you were born,the doctor hit your MOMMA!!!"

So sad..in a sea of wonderful people to see these pathetic souls.CH

Ancona21

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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Il Pirato Charlie wrote:

<< I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the
inimitable
innaurato so rotten and mean? >>

We do not suffer fools gladly.

Skip

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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Charles,
they are all the same and one, emminbag, balless (bollman) sara-thing-lampshades, the grand inquisitor (bore) etc, just look
at the styles of writing........ *Yawn* possibly andre?? also. but if not, all are clue-less. Just a bunch of frustrated
"queens" who never get any unless they pay for it.... Charles don't worry............ These people talk so much of your tapes
etc and make comments of the quality etc, I guess they must have ordered many from you to make a judgment, you think? LOL
Rake in the money Charlie.... I know I liked the tapes I've ordered from you years ago, live performances that I would have
never been able to hear live...... Thanks Charles.

Evelyn Vogt Gamble (Divamanque)

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
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I tried biting my tongue to avoid making the obvious response, but you
leave yourself too wide open to it!

Ancona21 wrote:

> Il Pirato Charlie wrote:
>
> << I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the
> inimitable
> innaurato so rotten and mean? >>
>
> We do not suffer fools gladly.

Then how do you live with yourselves?

Anonymous

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
to Ancona21
Ancona21 wrote:
>
> Il Pirato Charlie wrote:
>
> << I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the
> inimitable> innaurato so rotten and mean? >>
>
> We do not suffer fools gladly.

translation: we live in homes without mirrors.

william d. kasimer

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
to Ancona21
Ancona21 wrote:
>
> Il Pirato Charlie wrote:
>
> << I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the inimitable
> innaurato so rotten and mean? >>
>
> We do not suffer fools gladly.

Exactly.

Bill

--
William D. Kasimer
wk...@mindspring.com
wk...@juno.com

william d. kasimer

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
to Skip
Skip wrote:

> Charles,
> they are all the same and one, emminbag, balless (bollman) sara-thing-lampshades, the > grand inquisitor (bore) etc, just look
> at the styles of writing........ *Yawn* possibly andre?? also. but if not, all are > clue-less.

Did you forget about little old me, Skippy? I was sooo looking
forward to your analysis...

william d. kasimer

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Sep 12, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/12/99
to Charlie
Charlie wrote:

> I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course the inimitable
> innaurato so rotten and mean?

There's one little, inconvenient factoid that you always forget,
Charlie - you're my sole target.

Tristan848

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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He really is a pretentious snob isn't he?

Skip

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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Sounds like love to me.........

Skip

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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SUFFER!

"william d. kasimer" wrote:

> Skip wrote:
>
> > Charles,
> > they are all the same and one, emminbag, balless (bollman) sara-thing-lampshades, the > grand inquisitor (bore) etc, just look
> > at the styles of writing........ *Yawn* possibly andre?? also. but if not, all are > clue-less.
>
> Did you forget about little old me, Skippy? I was sooo looking
> forward to your analysis...
>

wk...@juno.com

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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In article <37DC58BB...@bway.net>,
Anonymous <nob...@newsfeeds.com> wrote:
> Ancona21 wrote:

> >
> > Il Pirato Charlie wrote:
> >
> > << I wonder what makes Ancona,like Bollman,Kasimer, and of course
the
> > inimitable> innaurato so rotten and mean? >>
> >
> > We do not suffer fools gladly.
>
> translation: we live in homes without mirrors.

Sorry Dan - the problem is that I *do* look in the mirror, and it's hard
for me to look at myself if I allow this particularly sleazy, verminous
individual to go unchallenged when he posts hypocritical drivel.

I hold no brief for the rest of Charlie's enemies - if his small mind
requires him to include me with them, that's his problem, not mine.

Bill
--
William D. Kasimer

wk...@juno.com


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Stephen Goldberg

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Sep 13, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/13/99
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Oh! You're selling recorded opera!
Much better idea!
Stephen Goldberg

edrosen1 wrote:

> I neglected to mention the obvious: we will be dealing with operatic


> performances on CD, audio, and video tape, with the best selection and
> quality available.
>

> Ed
>
> edrosen1 wrote:
>
> > Hi-
> >
> > For those interested, I would like to announce the formation of a new
> > company, Custom Opera, Inc.
> >
> > More information will be sent by mail. If you wish the receive
> > information, please contact me privately by e-mail, or write to Custom
> > Opera, Inc., PO Box 150, Carle Place, NY 11514.
> >
> > Best,
> > Ed


edrosen1

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Sep 15, 1999, 3:00:00 AM9/15/99
to andre35
Well, the breaking into song isn't too important, since I am able to do that on my
own :) But I am seeking someone who is good with computers, and has some
operatic knowledge. And can occasionally lift a fairly heavy box.

And- must be willing and able to work on Long Island.

Anybody interested- please e-mail me privately.


Best,
Ed

andre35 wrote:

> In other words you're looking for a physically powerful, opera loving
> computer whiz who might, or will, break into song at any moment. Shouldn't be
> tough.
> Good luck with the new venture.
> Andre

andre35

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