Boy, are you ever going to get flamed for this one! It's Australia's
most famous tune - far more well-known than our pathetic excuse for
a national anthem! The words to the first verse are
Once a jolly swagman sat by a billabong
Under the shade of a coolabah tree
And he sang as he watched and waited for his billy boil,
Who'll come a-waltzing matilda with me?
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I thought it was about time somebody from Australia contributed to this
discussion. Here is the authoritative information (well maybe :-))
In reference to Waltzing Maltida, the Maltida is the swag, or pack, that the
swaggie carries. The swag is the rolled up bedding and posessions of the
swaggie. The swag is carried across the shoulders; there is no stick!
The song was written by A.B. 'Banjo' Patterson, one of Australia's most famous
authors of poems and stories. There is some dispute, however, as to how much
of the song was actually his. It has been interpreted as a commentary on the
Shearers' Strike of the late 1800's. The song refers to the antagonism between
the shearers and the authorities.
Incidentally, the first line should be:
Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong...
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P.S. Full lyrics available on request.
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Nope, not the national anthem, though "national song" would probably be an
accurate description. The Powers That Be couldn't quite handle the thought
of a national anthem about a hobo who steals sheep...
The song is inextricably linked to the Australian national consciousness
(whatever that is), and references to it crop up in many other songs, as
well as Australian literature. Non-Aussies who think of it as a cute folk
tune along the lines of the American "My Darling Clementine" are way off the
mark.
(Apologies in advance to Our Friends Down Under for any inaccuracies here...)
(A simple "Strewth, Mite, too right!" will suffice...)
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I believe that "Waltzing Matilda" is the Australian national anthem.
Has a nice beat.
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>> I was wondering if anyone's ever heard of a piece called "waltzing
>>Matilda." There are references made to it in the TV show "Twin Peaks," but
>>I was wondering if it's part of the real world. Also, if any of you are
>>Twin Peaks viewers, could the record being played while Donna and Leland
>>danced and when Madeline dies be "waltzing Matilda?"
>
>Boy, are you ever going to get flamed for this one! It's Australia's
>most famous tune - far more well-known than our pathetic excuse for
>a national anthem!
Hopefully, someone from Oz can resolve this; but is not "Waltzing Matilda"
the name of the stick to which the "jolly swagman" ties all his worldly goods?
As far as TWIN PEAKS goes, I know I am missing a lot (like episodes every
Saturday night these days); but where were all those references. Leland
was into swing (and Bob is not a music-lover).
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I THINK the phrase to "go Waltzing Matilda" means to
go roaming around the outback (whatever the outback
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In the song, "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda," the Pogues refer to the
inappropriate playing of "Waltzing Matilda" in celebration/honor of war
veterans, esp. those missing legs (different songs). Tim
} I was wondering if anyone's ever heard of a piece called "waltzing
} Matilda."
Only about half the world has heard of it (you must belong to the other
half :-)).
} There are references made to it in the TV show "Twin Peaks," [...]
Really? I don't recall any...
} Also, if any of you are Twin Peaks viewers, could the record being
} played while Donna and Leland danced and when Madeline dies be
} "waltzing Matilda?"
No, it couldn't. I don't recall what it was, but it definitely was *not*
"Waltzing Matilda".
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I also do not remember hearing anything about Waltzing Matilda in Twin
Peaks, however I don't agree that Bob is not a music-lover. I think it
was Bob who liked all that old music, rather than Leland himself. The
era of that stuff Leland listened to is probably that of when Bob was
alive, before he became an owl. Remember the record player playing when
Bob/Leland was preparing to do Maddie in, also Bob/Leland singing in the
car when he had Maddie in the trunk, etc, etc.
btw, I think you may be wrong about it meaning the stick. I believe the
actual act of going of into the bush and doing whatever it is that swagmen
do there is called going Waltzing Matilda. Actually the stick is Matilda
and when you go out with the stick you are doing the waltzing. I didn't
post this earlier because I'm Australian myself, and a bit embarassed
about not remembering the exact meaning.
(Sorry, I couldn't find the previous reference...)
I've talked to a lot of people, and the vast majority of them would
seem to favor the prospect of changing our (U.S.) national anthem to "Louie,
Louie". I think it more accurately portrays contemporary American culture,
plus it doesn't have references to bombs and rockets. It'd be a sure hit at
the Olympics!
}} Waltzing Matilda? Isn't that also a Pogues song on the album "Rum,Sodomy
}} and the Lash?" I think so....
Nope, that's "And the Band Played 'Waltzing Matilda'", which is a song
written by Eric Bogle about the Battle of Gallipoli during WWI.
In article <1991Mar5.0...@ucselx.sdsu.edu>, maxc...@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Tim Thornton) writes...
} In the song, "And The Band Played Waltzing Matilda," the Pogues refer to
} the inappropriate playing of "Waltzing Matilda" in celebration/honor of
} war veterans, esp. those missing legs (different songs).
I think you're misreading the song. There's nothing in the song that
suggests that "Waltzing Matilda" is being inappropriately used in those
instances. *Ironically*, yes; inappropriately, no.
In fact, a stanza from "Waltzing Matilda" is quoted at the end of the song,
and one of the lines is *very* appropriate:
"And their ghosts may be heard,
As they march by the billibong"
"Waltzing Matilda" is *not* a very upbeat song.
Don't know about national anthems or swagmen or walking sticks, but I
do know that Waltzing Matilda is that unusual dance one does when hanging
by the neck from a rope. Think about it. Swagman steals jumbuck, gets
caught, is going Waltzing Matilda. Makes sense to me.
For thos of you rabid flamers, don't ask me to demonstrate.
Norm
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> Boy, are you ever going to get flamed for this one! It's Australia's
> most famous tune - far more well-known than our pathetic excuse for
> a national anthem! The words to the first verse are
There's a lovely spoof version of this translated into 'English', called
Walking A Bulldog.
Once a jolly vagabond camped by a lillypond
under the shade of an old oak tree
and he sang as he watched and waited till his kettle boiled
who'll come a walking a bulldog with me.
Along came a hedgehog to drink at the lillypond
Up jumped the vagabond and grabbed him with glee
He shoved the little hedgehog into his great big picnic-hamper
you'll come a walking etc.
Along came a constable on a big red bicycle
up came the gamekeepers one,two,three,
Where's that little hedgehog that you've got in your picnic hamper
You'll come a walking etc.
Up jumped the vagabond and leapt into the lillypond
etc (same as the original)
Some artistic license is required to fit all the words in !
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"Advance, Australia Fair" is the actual Australian National Anthem--a
fine song in its own right and much underrated.
I've heard two different tunes to "Waltzing Matilda;" the lesser-known
one I have seen ascribed in print to Paterson himself; I will NOT
attempt to reproduce either here.
Approximate words and simplified definitions:
Once a jolly SWAGMAN camped by a BILLABONG foot traveler waterhole
Under the shade of a coolabah tree
And he sang as he watched and billycan--container for
waited while his BILLY boiled boiling yer tea
"You'll come a watlzing MATILDA with me" traveleer's bedroll
Refrain: WALTZING MATILDA, Waltzing Matilda traveling hobo-style
You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me
And he sang as he watched and (third line of last
waited while his billy boiled verse here always)
"You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me"
Up came a JUMBUCK to drink at the billabong sheep
Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee
And he sang as he stuffed that (very small sheep)
jumbuck in his TUCKER BAG satchel for food
"You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me"
Up came the SQUATTER, mounted on his thoroughbred local landowner
Up came the TROOPERS, one, two, three local lawmen
"Where's that jolly jumbuck
you've got in your tucker bag?
You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me!"
Up jumped the swagman and leapt into the billabong
"You'll never catch me alive!" said he
And his ghost may be heard as you
ride beside the billabong--
"You'll come a-waltzing matilda with me..."
During most of his life, Paterson was a war correspondent and
newspaper writer, as well as poet laureate of the bush (my term, no
one else's). The BUSH may refer to the outback, that great,
only-partially-untrammeled wilderness of sand and scrub inland from
the fertile coastal regions of Australia, or, more likely, to the
so-called "uncivilized" forests and mountains of said regions.
Paterson also wrote "The Man From Snowy River," of two-movie fame, and
hundreds of other poems. His correspondence and writings have been
collected in a massive two-volume book set titled "Singer of the Bush"
and "Song of the Pen," printed in Australia. WORTH getting if you
have any Aussie contacts. About fifty dollars American, I think.
Hope this has been of some use and/or interest.
Ta--
Andrea Aldridge
Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.
Australia / Twin Peaks, what's the difference anyway ?
I like it.
But will Laura come a waltzing Matilda with you ?
Probably not, unless Mr. Lynch has one hell of a big trick up his
sleeve. Either way, I'd stay out of Twin Peaks and the Australian
dept. of tourism until the heat cools down.
Graham.
Once a jolly swagman sat by a billabong
Under the shade of a coolabah tree
And he sang as he watched and waited for his billy boil,
Who'll come a-waltzing matilda with me?
In case the lyrics are a bit confusing, it's about a poacher who waits
at a drinking hole, captures game illegally, and is subsequently shot by
the game wardens... Great song to sing to your kids, though, content aside.
hugh williams
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Oh gee, and what was the name of Paul Revere's horse. I think the matilda
was the swag he carried on his back, in fact my dictionary says it is. It also
says the expression "to waltz matilda" means to wander about as a tramp with a
swag. Here are the words:
Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong
Under the shade of a coolabah tree
And he sang as he watched and waited till his billy boiled
"You'll come a'waltzing matilda with me"
Chorus:
Waltzing matilda, waltzing matilda,
You'll come a waltzing matilda
And he sang as he watched and waited till his billy boiled
"You'll come a'waltzing matilda with me"
Down came a jumbuck to drink at that billabong
Up jumped the swagman and grabbed him with glee
And sang as he shoved that jumbuck in his tucker bag
"You'll come a'waltzing matilda with me"
Chorus
Down came the squatter mounted on his thoroughbred
Down came the troopers One! Two! Three!
They said "where's that jolly jumbuck you've got in your tucker bag?"
"Oh you'll come a'waltzing matilda with me"
Chorus
Up jumped the swagman and jumped into the billabong
"You'll never take me alive" said he
And his ghost may be heard as you pass by that billabong
"You'll come a Waltzing Matilda with me"
Chorus to end.
Note that the last two lines of each chorus are the last two lines of the
preceding verse. Now for some translations:
Swag: bag of stuff that a swagman/tramp carries.
Billabong: a lake, in particular one formed at the bend of a river when the
course of the river changes. Say the river goes round a loop, then changes
course to short-circuit the loop. The water which remains in the loop is a
billabong.
Coolabah Tree: I dunno, just some sort of tree. The dictionary says "A species
of eucalyptus, eucalyptus microtheca, and usually associated with areas
subject to occasional inundation." Has been taken as the names of various
"cool and shady" products, for example Coolabah cask wine.
Billy: Tin pot with a handle used for boiling water over a camp fire.
Jumbuck: a sheep or lamb
Tucker: food
Squatter: land-owner. Say last century or so, it was easier to just go and
build a farm somewhere without bothering to purchase the land from the crown.
I don't know whether it was cheaper or quicker or both. Eventually the govt
decided all those who were illegally "squatting" on the land could have it
anyway, and thus the squatters became land-owners, and usually very rich.
Trooper: policemen. At this time, undisciplined and violent, used to go
around shooting blacks and swagmen and drinking lots of rum. Still do.
Friendless
I don't agree that BOB is not a music-lover either but I also have to point
out that Waltzing Matilda, from the responses I've received, sounds
just like the kind of song BOB might sing-- i.e. remember the
"does eat oats and little lambs eat ivy..." bit?
To clarify the reference to Waltzing Matilda made in Twin Peaks in the
first place: In the secret diary, Laura talks about a dream of
dancing with her mom to Waltzing Matilda, except the only thing is that
her mom is speaking with BOB's voice. Because of this, I thought that
if the "Maddy dies" music and the "dancing with Donna" music were
actually Waltzing Matilda, then maybe this reference in the diary
might have been some kind of foreshadowing.
Anyway, thanks for all of the info.
Rocky
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>Hopefully, someone from Oz can resolve this; but is not "Waltzing Matilda"
>the name of the stick to which the "jolly swagman" ties all his worldly goods?
Well, not quite. I'm not from Australia, but I believe that the
swagman, unlike the hobo, did not hang his worldly goods from a stick over
his shoulder (a "bindlestiff, I think"), but rather, rolled up his goods in
his bedroll, which was rolled around the long axis, with other goods
inside. The ends were then tied shut with the two ends of a line (rope,
whatever) producing something which looks like a fat bow, with a loose
bowstring. The swagman then proceeded to put his head, and one arm, through
the loop of rope, with the swag (bedroll), laying diagonally across his
back. Because of its length, and mass, it imparted a gait which resembled
waltzing, at least if your brain had been sufficiently baked in the outback.
:-) From the waltzing image, came the woman's name affectionately given to
the swag (bedroll).
Well, now I'll return you to your regularly scheduled flamefest :-)
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I first heard the Bogle song as done by Priscilla Herdman. Years later,
after Herdman had married and been to Australia for her honeymoon, at
another concert of hers, she performed not only the Bogle song, but
did the original "Waltzing Matilda", but with a completely different
melody and rhythm. It was rather bizarre after being used to the more
traditional version, but it was also very striking. I wish to hell I
could remember how it went...
> Waltzing Matilda? Isn't that also a Pogues song on the album "Rum,Sodomy
> and the Lash?" I think so....
> Bill
No, the song is by Eric Bogle, and it's called "The Band Played Waltzing
Matilda." Made more well know by Nebraskan senator Bob Kerry singing it
to a class at the University of California Santa Barbara.
|> Once a jolly swagman sat by a billabong
|> Under the shade of a coolabah tree
|> And he sang as he watched and waited for his billy boil,
|> Who'll come a-waltzing matilda with me?
Which roughly translated into ''standard english'' means something like:
Once a jolly rogue sat by a pond
under the shade of a coolabah tree
and he sang as he watch and waited for his tea to boil
who will come hiking with me
'waltzing matilda' is a reference to the peculiar bounce of a bed roll
off your rump, so I am told.
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The first two lines in the more well-known version are:
Waltzing Matilea. Waltzing Matilda.
You come and waltzing matilda with me.
whereas the first two lines in the other version are:
Waltzing Matilda, Matilda, my darling
You come and Waltzing matilda with me.
Does this ring any bells? Is this the Waltzing Matilda you're talking about?
I believe that it was Eric Bogle (an Australian folk singer) who wrote
"And the Band Played Waltzing Matilda" Am I wrong?
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The New York version of the second line is:
Up jumped the swagman and KOCHED him with glee subdued through intense
exposure to a former New
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