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Dave Learn

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May 3, 1989, 12:26:17 AM5/3/89
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Add my vote to the call for a metal newsgroup.

I don't think a new group is necessary, though. As I look through
rec.music.misc and alt.rock-n-roll, I see essentially the same things.
Indeed, many of the articles are cross-posted to the two newsgroups.

If we could confine all the non-metal rock music to rec.music.misc, and
post metal *only* to alt.rock-n-roll, I think that would work just fine.
Or the other way. My point, though, is that right now, there is
absolutley nothing to distinguish one newsgroup from another, so all we
really need to do is clarify the distinction between the two groups.
One is for metal, the other is not. One is for nonmetal, the other is
not. Make sense?

Let's make it so. I intend to post any metal exclusively to
alt.rock-n-roll, and my other interests, such as Amy Grant and Michael W
Smith will be posted to rec.music.misc.

dave learn
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Bill Bretschneider

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May 5, 1989, 11:37:21 AM5/5/89
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In article <9...@lafcol.UUCP>, lea...@lafcol.UUCP (Dave Learn) writes:
> If we could confine all the non-metal rock music to rec.music.misc, and
> post metal *only* to alt.rock-n-roll, I think that would work just fine.

I think the problem with this is that all sites don't get both
newsgroups (esp. alt.rock-n-roll). This would probably leave many
people out of the discussion of metal. Otherwise it's an excellent
idea. I think I'm in favor of a new rec.music.metal newsgroup.

Bill Bretschneider Lafayette College, Easton, PA
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Gary L Dare

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May 5, 1989, 2:22:11 PM5/5/89
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I didn't vote the other times for or against rec.music.metal, but
there is enough of a following (*understatement!*) that it merits a
genre-specific group just like Kate Bush (Gaffa), the Grateful Dead
and the Beatles. Heavy metal is an identifiable rock mode.

gld
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Max Kislik

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May 5, 1989, 9:39:34 PM5/5/89
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You can definitely count me as a vote for rec.music.metal.


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John Fereira

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May 5, 1989, 1:41:24 PM5/5/89
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>Add my vote to the call for a metal newsgroup.
>
Vote all you want here but it's not going to do any good. Look at the
guidelines for the creation of a new newsgroup and you'll find that
all votes must be made by email *after* a "call for discussion" has
been made in news.groups. If someone *really* want a rec.music.metal
news group a note should be posted there.
--
john

Max Kislik

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May 8, 1989, 4:06:36 PM5/8/89
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In article <834...@hpdslab.HP.COM> jo...@hpdslab.HP.COM (John Fereira) writes:

>Vote all you want here but it's not going to do any good. Look at the
>guidelines for the creation of a new newsgroup and you'll find that
>all votes must be made by email *after* a "call for discussion" has
>been made in news.groups. If someone *really* want a rec.music.metal
>news group a note should be posted there.

Is there anyone out there who likes Metal enough to collect the Email
for and against the newsgroup?

I really can't do it, 'cause I share the mailbox with probably thirty
other UCLA computer club member.
Sorry.

Agonis Christine M

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May 9, 1989, 7:45:06 AM5/9/89
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> You can definitely count me as a vote for rec.music.metal.
>

Yeah, me too! I hope someone is counting these votes..........

--- Christine
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Colin Dente

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May 9, 1989, 4:42:31 PM5/9/89
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In article <23...@shemp.CS.UCLA.EDU> c...@cs.ucla.edu (Max Kislik) writes:
>In article <834...@hpdslab.HP.COM> jo...@hpdslab.HP.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>>Vote all you want here but it's not going to do any good. Look at the
>
>Is there anyone out there who likes Metal enough to collect the Email
>for and against the newsgroup?

As John said, there's no point in discussing things further here - and
*certainly* no point in voting here. To stand any chance of getting the
newsgroup created anywhere but a machine you administer you should move
the discussion of whether to create the group to news.groups, and not hold
it here.

To start things off, it seems usual to post to news.groups with a subject
something like: "Call for discussion - creation of rec.music.metal", then
start the discussion off by giving reasons, proposing the scope of the group,
whether it should be moderated, etc. etc. After some time (there's quite a lot
of discussion about how long this should be - but 2 weeks seems about right)
if the discussion seems to have come to an end - you should post a call for
votes to news.groups (& anywhere else you think be might appropriate, e.g.
here, alt.rock-n-roll etc.). The call for votes should really come from
someone who is prepared to count them (received via email - so you should have
your own mailbox). After a (thirty day?) voting period, the result should be
posted, and provided you've got a 2/3 (??) majority, and at least 100 votes
for the creation of the group, it should get created in due course (nb this
could take a couple of weeks for some sites).

I'm not going to post the call for discussion - as I'm not *particularly*
bothered about it, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't.

As to saving all the postings, I'll save anything posted to news.groups
with the metal somewhere in the subject line, PROVIDING someone tells me
how (I would guess a line a kill file something like /metal/s metal.digest
should save them all to the file ~/News/metal.digest - but I wouldn't like to
bet) If it can't be done automatically, then I'll try to do it manually, but
I won't guarantee to catch 'em all! I am *not* prepared to save articles
posted here which are discussing the creation if they arrive here after a
call for discussion has been posted in news.groups (God knows this group is
congested enough).

Colin

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May 11, 1989, 5:15:06 AM5/11/89
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In article <21...@lcuxlm.ATT.COM> c...@lcuxlm.ATT.COM (Agonis Christine M) writes:
> You can definitely count me as a vote for rec.music.metal.
>
me too!
g c

BIG BAD DOM

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Jun 1, 1989, 6:20:41 PM6/1/89
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fuck yea!

Dom.

Jim Brewer

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Jun 6, 1989, 7:14:52 PM6/6/89
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>>> You can definitely count me as a vote for rec.music.metal.
>>
>> Yeah, me too! I hope someone is counting these votes..........

Yeah, me too.

mark c anderson

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Jun 7, 1989, 5:24:19 PM6/7/89
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In article <113...@hpcilzb.HP.COM> j...@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Jim Brewer) writes:
[some attribution lost...]

>>>> You can definitely count me as a vote for rec.music.metal.

No, they can definitely *not* count you as a vote. Posted votes do not
count. Votes have to be e-mailed to the person who is counting the votes,
and the net "guidelines" specifically state that posted votes cannot be
counted.

See news.groups for more of this fun!

>>>
>>> Yeah, me too! I hope someone is counting these votes..........
>
>Yeah, me too.

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