IUMA - The Internet Underground Music Archive
jon r. luini
There were a couple of questions around the net about our site (IUMA) today
(possibly as a result of the NPR piece which aired last night), so I thought
I'd clear things up by posting a quick info on how to get to us and
what we are.
The three partners in IUMA are Rob Lord, Jeff Patterson (both UC
Santa Cruz CIS seniors) and Jon Luini (me). In addition to the three of us,
we have an awesome crew of about 7 volunteers who work daily to keep IUMA
running. As the first people doing a full hi-quality free music archive on
the internet, IUMA has been going strong since November of '93. We
currently have music online from over 220 indie/unsigned bands as well as
label presences for 10 labels ranging from unknowns ones liked Quagmire
to "large" indies such as Teenbeat to major ones like Warner Bros. Records.
After upgrading to a new SGI server in our cramped santa cruz office, we
are serving about 25,000 WWW accesses a day, though it grows so quickly that
that is probably out of date by the time you read this :}
We also have mirror sites... one in Europe (London) and one at
the University of North Carolina (which is where we started out).
you can connect to us in the following ways:
WEB: http://www.iuma.com/IUMA/
FTP: ftp.iuma.com
Gopher: gopher.iuma.com
via the web you can jump to our mirror sites to go to one which is quickest
for you. if you wish to ftp/gopher to one of the other ones directly,
their addresses are:
North Carolina: WEB: http://sunsite.unc.edu/ianc/
FTP: sunsite.unc.edu:/pub/electronic-publications/IUMA
Gopher: sunsite.unc.edu, worlds of sunsite/IUMA
London: WEB: http://www.southern.com/IUMA
FTP: www.southern.com:/IUMA
Gopher: not available yet
We are continuing to develop innovative ways to get better distribution
for indie/unsigned musicians as well as close the gap between artists
and their listeners. To give you a quick example of those, yesterday
wen did the following:
1. Plugged IUMA into the console of KSCU, a college radio
station in Santa Clara, CA. and did an entire 3 hour show
played directly from the computer. This is only the first step
in this project and we played 28 different songs from unsigned and
indie bands.
2. We uploaded the 30second pre-release excerpt of Madonna's new
song "Secret" from her upcoming album (release in about a month).
Along with it is a special audio message to the computer listeners
out there.
Keep an eye out for more info as we try and find the time to let people
know what we're doing in addition to just spending all our time doing it :}
If you have any questions or want to get your band online, etc, feel
free to contact us!
IUMA
903 Pacific Ave Suite 300
Santa Cruz, CA 95060
(408) 426-4862 aka 408-I-AM-IUMA
we are also looking for more people to help organize localized music scene
pages (check out http://www.iuma.com/~scam/ for a great example), so feel
free to contact us about that as well.
ciao,
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Elson R. Trinidad
>
>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool.
>
>I have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's the
>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
Elson
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The Taste Sensation!
Elson R. Trinidad <ertr...@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
>In article <noahmax-2109...@noahmax.escape.com> noa...@escape.com (Noah Shachtman) writes:
>>
>>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool.
>>
>>I have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's the
>>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
>
>I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
>
IUMA would like to have everything on the net. If there is anything
they've missed, it is only because it hasn't been sent to them. If you
know any bands, composers, or audio artists without internet access, let
them know about IUMA and distributing their music over the wires.
-r.
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Elson R. Trinidad
>IUMA would like to have everything on the net. If there is anything
>they've missed, it is only because it hasn't been sent to them. If you
>know any bands, composers, or audio artists without internet access, let
>them know about IUMA and distributing their music over the wires.
>
But if IUMA *had* everything on the net, then there would be no more validity
in the "U" in "IUMA."
Swag Valance
>>
>>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool.
>>
>>I have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's the
>>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
>
>I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
Oh great. That's all the Internet needs is some kind of stereotyped racial
quotas where someone whines if a fully-volunteer site is under-representing
tuva raga disco asian throat singing.
Could we be a little more sanctimonious please?
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Elson R. Trinidad wrote:
>Noah Shachtman writes:
>>
>>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool.
>>
>>I have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's the
>>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
>
>
>I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
>
Um, guys? Internet Underground Music *Archive*. They don't choose the
music people send them. They just archive it, for a minimal price.
Then you get to download it. It's not that they won't put hip-hop or
funk on IUMA, it's that *no one's sent any yet*. And I could let slip
something that would totally change your minds about this "bias", but
that hasn't been worked out yet....
Brian Patrick Lee
Valance) writes:
In article <35ract$f...@girtab.usc.edu>, Elson R. Trinidad
<ertr...@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
>In article <noahmax-2109...@noahmax.escape.com>
noa...@escape.com (Noah Shachtman) writes:
>>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool. >>I
have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's
the >>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
>I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
Oh great. That's all the Internet needs is some kind of
stereotyped racial quotas where someone whines if a fully-volunteer
site is under-representing tuva raga disco asian throat singing.
Could we be a little more sanctimonious please?
C'mon. I think the point is that it would be nice if there was
something besides ``alternative''-college-lotsapoorlosers-mainstream
stuff on the server, not that there is some type of discrimination
going on. I guess we need more funky hip-hoppers in computer science.
Next week, someone from IUMA is coming to Berklee School of Music to
talk about the project to Music Production and Engineering majors.
I'll try to ask a question about funk and hip-hop, as well as other
types of music, and find out why they choose to put up what they do.
It just might be that they prefer that kind of music.
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Thomas Darling
> IUMA would like to have everything on the net. If there is anything
> they've missed, it is only because it hasn't been sent to them. If you
> know any bands, composers, or audio artists without internet access, let
> them know about IUMA and distributing their music over the wires.
I'd love to! But could someone repeat the URL address please?
Thanks.
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Philip Weaver
> >In article <noahmax-2109...@noahmax.escape.com>
> noa...@escape.com (Noah Shachtman) writes:
>
> >>Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool. >>I
> have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's
> the >>funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
>
I missed the original Announcement...whats the http address for IUMA again?
Thanks,
pw
Steven Grimm
>I'll try to ask a question about funk and hip-hop, as well as other
>types of music, and find out why they choose to put up what they do.
>It just might be that they prefer that kind of music.
Why do you assume that the IUMA administrators' tastes enter into the
picture at all? As far as I know, they'll take all comers. The reason
you see a lot of college-style alternative music there is probably that
college students can get Internet access easily, and are thus more
likely to submit music to the archive than musicians who typically aren't
online.
I don't see any favoritism at work here. IUMA can't make music available
unless it's given to them!
-Steve
The Taste Sensation!
>C'mon. I think the point is that it would be nice if there was
>something besides ``alternative''-college-lotsapoorlosers-mainstream
>stuff on the server, not that there is some type of discrimination
>going on. I guess we need more funky hip-hoppers in computer science.
>
>Next week, someone from IUMA is coming to Berklee School of Music to
>talk about the project to Music Production and Engineering majors.
>I'll try to ask a question about funk and hip-hop, as well as other
>types of music, and find out why they choose to put up what they do.
>It just might be that they prefer that kind of music.
Whether or not the majority of bands on IUMA fall in a similar category,
no band has been denied their service for any reaon, *especially* in
regards to musical style. Their taste has no bearing on the selections.
Alan J. Flavell
>In <BLEE.94Se...@media-lab.media.mit.edu> bl...@media.mit.edu (Brian Patrick Lee) writes:
[and so on, and so on....]
This discussion has no place on comp.infosystems.www.misc, will people
following up PLEASE trim the newsgroups to something more relevant.
Thanks.
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Michael Smith
cor...@montage.com (Tony Corman) writes:
>Tell you this, the IUMA folks did not hesitate to include my
>3-horn acoustic jazz group (Triceratops), and at the time I
>submitted materials there was no jazz on the board. I, for one,
>found them completely open to another style, and am delighted
>to have my group on line!
>Tony Corman
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Elson R. Trinidad
>Whether or not the majority of bands on IUMA fall in a similar category,
>no band has been denied their service for any reaon, *especially* in
>regards to musical style. Their taste has no bearing on the selections.
Okay, I'll take your word for it. But what's with the [pretentious]
"U" in "IUMA"? "Underground." "Alternative." "Grunge." "Generation [e]X[crement] music."? That's how I interpret it.
If it were simply called the "Internet Music Archive" (IMA) or the
"Internet Online Music Archive" (IOMA)? Then fair enough, you could then
assume you'll get all kinds of music on it, and not simply "Underground"
as the "U" in "IUMA" suggests.
I have no problem with the service, and have tried it out myself, and
I do feel this is an important if not revolutionary service to the whole
Internet community...it's just the "U" that bothers me.
Elson
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Elson R. Trinidad <ertr...@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
>Okay, I'll take your word for it. But what's with the [pretentious]
>"U" in "IUMA"? "Underground." "Alternative." "Grunge." "Generation [e]X[crement] music."? That's how I interpret it.
>If it were simply called the "Internet Music Archive" (IMA) or the
>"Internet Online Music Archive" (IOMA)? Then fair enough, you could then
>assume you'll get all kinds of music on it, and not simply "Underground"
>as the "U" in "IUMA" suggests.
I didn't know that "Underground" had any particular connotation as to the
type of music, per se. Doesn't it just meanstuff that's not getting
published in ordinary channels?
Turns out that a whole lot of "Underground" music that gets out in the
less-than-ordinary channels is so-called "alternative" etc... because
that's probably the most popular form among college students and other
city-living slacker sorts that tend to form underground distribution
networks.
Now that the network is *the* network, it would seem that the call is out
for those who'd like to have their jazz/country/ethnic/classical/whatever
distributed in such a way. If you publish it, they will write.
Mike
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Tim Bass
>From: m...@panix.com (Michael Sullivan)
>Subject: Re: IUMA - The Internet Underground Music Archive
>Date: 27 Sep 1994 01:10:19 -0400
>In article <367v9e$b...@girtab.usc.edu>,
>Elson R. Trinidad <ertr...@girtab.usc.edu> wrote:
>>Okay, I'll take your word for it. But what's with the [pretentious]
>>"U" in "IUMA"? "Underground." "Alternative." "Grunge." "Generation [e]X[crement] music."? That's how I interpret it.
>>If it were simply called the "Internet Music Archive" (IMA) or the
>>"Internet Online Music Archive" (IOMA)? Then fair enough, you could then
>>assume you'll get all kinds of music on it, and not simply "Underground"
>>as the "U" in "IUMA" suggests.
I think it's unfortunate that we often allow ourselves to function as mere
reactionaries as the post above implies. In my lexicon, the word
*underground* has no relation to mass marketed media definitions , and on the
basis of historical definition, is rooted in the praxis of underepresented
and revolutionary change.
The way I look at it, we can *choose* to either flop
around in the pop culture baby pool that has traditionally been *ruled* by our
collective and stubborn adherence to a herd mind set fueled by fear and
factionalism and defined by some all too easily scapegoated "other", or we
can exercise our creative energies to try and improve things.
My personal dealings with the folks at IUMA have convinced me that they are
working very hard - often at great personal exspense - to help musicians of
every persuasion to reach a larger audience and we can all benefit from their
example.
Peace
-TB
Tim Bass
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Jason Untulis
: In article <noahmax-2109...@noahmax.escape.com> noa...@escape.com (Noah Shachtman) writes:
: >
: >Just wanted to say that IUMA is on my hotlist. Very cool.
: >
: >I have one small complaint, however. Where's the hip-hop? Where's the
: >funk? Your list of bands is great, but a little white bread.
: I agree, but then again I guess that's what they intended.
The last statement has already been beaten to death. So why don't you two
(one or both) put up a hip-hop page? That's the beauty of the Web... You
don't need a big shindig to put up information. As long as you have
anonymous ftp available (and I know 'SC does... there not that much in
the Stone Age (disclaimer: Bruin alumni speaking...)) you can let everyone
in the world get to your information.
I've also assumed that you two have checked out the VIBE home page at
http://www.vibe.com/. It's not the same as the magazine, but it's something.
(Followups restricted to the music groups in the list. Any comments please
mail to me at unt...@netcom.com as I only read the c.i.w.misc group...)
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>>>>> "Elson" == Elson R Trinidad <ertr...@girtab.usc.edu>
Elson> If it were simply called the "Internet Music Archive" (IMA) or
Elson> the "Internet Online Music Archive" (IOMA)? Then fair enough,
Elson> you could then assume you'll get all kinds of music on it, and
Elson> not simply "Underground" as the "U" in "IUMA" suggests.
Maybe they have the server in the basement?
/Lars
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Elson R. Trinidad writes:
>>I have no problem with the service, and have tried it out myself, and
>>I do feel this is an important if not revolutionary service to the whole
>>Internet community...it's just the "U" that bothers me.
Well, they are discussing what to do about the name, now that
they are not as "underground" as when they started, but they
are still "underground" in that they handle unsigned bands,
do not charge the music listeners for the music, and really
piss the Corporate Giants of the recording industry off (said
Corporate Giants seem to have agreed that any band who is on
IUMA is *NOT* to be signed, as they will not have *complete
control* of the band/artists music).
Technically Sweet
>I have no problem with the service, and have tried it out myself, and
>I do feel this is an important if not revolutionary service to the whole
>Internet community...it's just the "U" that bothers me.
They are hiding, attempting to shield themselves from your penetrating scrutiny.
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>From: fis...@dina.kvl.dk (Lars P. Fischer)
>Subject: Re: IUMA - The Internet Underground Music Archive
Derek Sivers
(Feyd-Rautha) wrote:
> Corporate Giants seem to have agreed that any band who is on
> IUMA is *NOT* to be signed, as they will not have *complete
> control* of the band/artists music).
I had a conversation a couple weeks ago with a "corporate giant" that
thought it was the most excting, important thing for a band to be on
IUMA. He mentioned 3-4 times over 20 minutes "Oh you gotta get onto IUMA
- that's the future... (etc.)" Said that the men behind the desks don't
understand it, and that's what intrigues them.
Derek Sivers, NYC
bi...@panix.com
robert lord
hel...@cats.ucsc.edu (Feyd-Rautha) writes:
You are a truely wacky person.
We are not "discussing what to do about the name" because we're "not
as underground as [we] used to be" or for any other reason. Where did
did you hear that?
Secondly, you rumor-monger you, specifically which "Corporate Giants"
have "agreed" not to sign IUMA artists. In fact, just the opposite has
happened. At the College Music Journal (CMJ) Music Marathon in NYC, a
"college/alternative" A&R person at EMI mentioned that their internal
discussions include bands they'd discovered on IUMA. Furthermore, an A&R
rep. from Warner seems to be warming up to a particular Santa Cruz band.
You seem to suggest that a record label would not sign a band that has
independently made thousands of fans worldwide respond enthusiastically
to their demo song/ep. That's ludicrous!
robert lord.
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