Cathy Bavarian? (Obscure Steely Dan lyric)
Ralph Gonzalez
Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
roulade she can't sing...
Please email!
Thanks,Ralph Gonzalez
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Phone: (609) 225-6122; Internet: rgo...@gandalf.rutgers.edu
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John Burke
In article <Jun.8.16.09....@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, rgo...@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ralph Gonzalez) writes:
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|> Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
|> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
|> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
|> roulade she can't sing...
|>
Sorry I can't answer your question Ralph, but your question brings to
mind a question about a Fagan lyric that I have been trying to get
answered for years. In the song "Goodbye Look" he sings the line,
"pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen".....
What the hell is a Cuban Breeze? I have asked just about every bartender
I have ever encountered, and none of them know. One bartender made up
a drink, pineappple juice, dark rum and cranberry juice, it was pretty
tasty. But, I would like to try the "real macoy". Does anyone know
what a Cuban Breeze is?
-john
P.S. Glad to see a DIY Speaker designer with such good taste in music. cheers...
Patrice Roussel
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Not Cathy Barberian? If yes, she is one of the greatest singers in
contemporary music. Cage, Berio and many others wrote specially for her. She
used to be married to Luciano Berio and she died a few years ago. Check out
MAGNIFICATHY (Wergo?) for a great sampler of what she was able to do (even
a hilarious cover of Ticket to Ride by the Beatles).
|> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
|> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
|> roulade she can't sing...
|>
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prou...@ichips.intel.com
Jeffrey A. Dilcher
: Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
: Please email!
Yeah, post it here to.
I always wondered bout' that.....
Jeff Preston
In a previous article, bu...@korak.jpl.nasa.gov (John Burke) says:
>Sorry I can't answer your question Ralph, but your question brings to
>mind a question about a Fagan lyric that I have been trying to get
>answered for years. In the song "Goodbye Look" he sings the line,
>"pour me a Cuban Breeze, Gretchen".....
>What the hell is a Cuban Breeze? I have asked just about every bartender
>I have ever encountered, and none of them know. One bartender made up
>a drink, pineappple juice, dark rum and cranberry juice, it was pretty
>tasty. But, I would like to try the "real macoy". Does anyone know
>what a Cuban Breeze is?
It's been a while since I've heard _The Nightfly_, but I thought the
line was "...Cuba Libre', Gretchen"; in that case, it's nothing more than
yer garden-variety rum-and-nondescript-cola beverage.
Jeff
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Daniel Barrett
Ralph Gonzalez <rgo...@gandalf.rutgers.edu> wrote:
>Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
>In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
>to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
>roulade she can't sing...
I don't know any personal details, but I have one Cathy Berberian
(the correct spelling) track on a sampler disc, in which she covers
the Beatles "A Ticket To Ride." She has an operatic voice, and I
assume she is some kind of avant-garde musician. The track is so bad
that it is humorous. Truly pretentious.
Dan
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Malcolm Humes
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|> Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
|> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
|> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
|> roulade she can't sing...
My hunch would be Cathy Barberian (sp? At least it's closer than Bavar...)
Cathy Barberian is/was a singer who worked with 20th century classical
folks like Luciano Berio, doing unusual vocal things. I think shes on
some Berio piece that's quite well know - sort of a freak out set to
electronic music circa mid 60's - sort of orgasmic sounding...
My girlfriend recently picked up a Barberian cd where she covers "Ticket
to Ride", and "Summertime", in a fernetic free vocal style that adds
quite a lot of interpretation (humor, cynicism, etc.) to the original
compositions. I think she also does works of her own on this. She might
be described as a doing a combination of performance artist/spoken word and
singing. She might be compared to Diamanda Galas (but a lot less serious).
My hunch is it would be her.
Now I suspect that the it wasn't a "roulade" she couldn't sing. I wasn't
familiar with this word so I looked it up:
roulade: n. meat rolled around a filling and cooked.
So I wonder what it was she couldn't sing. Given her vocal range and abilities
and the context I'm curious what it was that CB might have known she
couldn't sing... perhaps it's a reference to a specific composer?
- malcolm
Kevin Lee
rgo...@gandalf.rutgers.edu "Ralph Gonzalez" writes:
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> Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
> roulade she can't sing...
>
I'd also like to know .
As a British Steely Dan fan I find some of their lyrics have references , we
Brits don't understand e.g. what is the "Wolverine" as in "When you put me on
the Wolverine up in Annandale" in "My Old School" from the same album , where
is Annandale and who are "Chino and Buddy Gee" in the song ? Is "Oh no William
and Mary won't do" a reference to William and Mary University ?
Kevin Lee
Kevin Andresen
>-john
I can't help either of you (although I *have* had a drink called a
Haitian Divorce...)
My Steely Dan lyric question is from "Any Major Dude". I think the line
goes:
Did you ever see a squonk's tears/well, look at mine
which makes perfect sense to any Genesis fan ("Squonk" from "A Trick of
the Tail") but seems like an odd reference for Fagen and Becker.
Am I hearing it right? What's the story?
--Kevin Andresen [kev...@apple.com]
"Is there gas in the car?/Yes, there's gas in the car"
Sax Therapy
: Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
: Please email!
possibly this is refers to Cathy Berberian. Composer Luciano Berio has
used her voice in some electronic compositions. One that comes to mind is
the soundtrack to "The Female Prisoner."
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Paul Bischoff
common topic in the Steely Dan mailgroup. (steel...@uiuc.edu subscribe)
>|> Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
>|> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
>|> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
>|> roulade she can't sing...
Cathy Berberian (I think that's the correct spelling) was an avant-garde
operatic singer who I believe had a multi-octave range. I think she passed
away a few years ago.
>What the hell is a Cuban Breeze? I have asked just about every bartender
>I have ever encountered, and none of them know. One bartender made up
>a drink, pineappple juice, dark rum and cranberry juice, it was pretty
>tasty. But, I would like to try the "real macoy". Does anyone know
>what a Cuban Breeze is?
It's a drink, but probably fictitous. Remember, the song is the fantasy
of a young kid in the late fifties/early sixties. So he probably didn't
know if it was a real drink or not.
>My Steely Dan lyric question is from "Any Major Dude". I think the line
>goes:
>Did you ever see a squonk's tears/well, look at mine
>which makes perfect sense to any Genesis fan ("Squonk" from "A Trick of
>the Tail") but seems like an odd reference for Fagen and Becker.
This came up before, but it wasn't known if Genesis created the squonk, or
if it was a much older fictitous/mythological character from literature.
>As a British Steely Dan fan I find some of their lyrics have references , we
>Brits don't understand e.g. what is the "Wolverine" as in "When you put me on
>the Wolverine up in Annandale" in "My Old School" from the same album , where
>is Annandale and who are "Chino and Buddy Gee" in the song ? Is "Oh no William
>and Mary won't do" a reference to William and Mary University ?
Becker and Fagen went to Bard College in upstate New York. I think the college
is in Annandale and the Wolverine was the train that went there. "Chino and
Buddy Gee" has been documented in the music books, but it sure sounds more like
"Gino and Daddy G". Supposedly Daddy G was a reference to G Gordon Liddy who
was heading up a drug investigation at a number of colleges at the time.
Of course this is all 100% pure speculation.
--paul
"Throw out your gold teeth and see how they roll..."
Sol Joseph Bermann
this.
The Wolverine (is that what they say?) is probably the name of
a train. And yes, I think the William and Mary reference is to
the university. As for the 2 random names, they are more than
likely just that.
Sol
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TREAD LIGHTLY IN YOUR DREAMS
THEY MIGHT COME TRUE FOR YOU TOMORROW
Sol Joseph Bermann
After reading this post and singing the song over in my head I
would have to agree with the name assessment. the G. Gordon
Liddy story sounds like something B&F would do.
li...@sunvalley1.com
David Samuel Barr
> On Wednesday, June 8, 1994 2:27:39 PM UTC-6, Ralph Gonzalez wrote:
>> Hi, could someone tell me who Cathy Bavarian is?
>> In Your Gold Teeth, from Steely Dan Countdown
>> to Exstasy, Donald Fagen singEven Cathy Bavarian knows there's one
>> roulade she can't sing...
>>
>> Please email!
>>
>> Thanks,Ralph Gonzalez
>> --
>> Ralph Gonzalez, Computer Science, Rutgers Univ., Camden, NJ
>> Phone: (609) 225-6122; Internet: rgo...@gandalf.rutgers.edu
inquiry, but just in case anyone else is interested):
See http://cathyberberian.com/