American Pie -- Mick Jagger == "Satan"???
Matt Ackeret
about "American Pie" a lot. Surprising to me, since I thought Don
didn't talk about the song, even when people weren't trying to interpret
it. (Seems kind of strange to me, because except for the part I mention
below, much of the song seems pretty easy to interpret.. a lot of the
references seem to be vague or not so vague references to other
musicians.. of course, I could be very wrong.. it's just my interpretation.
For example "eight miles high and falling fast" sounds like a reference to
the Byrds, and I've always thought one line goes "Lennon read a book on
Marx" referring to the fact that John Lennon was in school the time Buddy Holly
died, etc.)
Anyway, Bob Costas asked him if he saw Mick Jagger after "American Pie"
was released, since Mick Jagger was Satan who "laughed the day the music died"
(sorry if I have the quote wrong.. I can sing along with the whole song when
the music is playing but can't remember the words well with no music).
Don said he wouldn't comment on anyone's interpretation of the song, but
it seemed pretty obvious that Bob Costas was right in terms of that's what
Don was referring to in the song.
Could someone please go into a little more detail about this? What did Mick
Jagger do that makes this an appropriate reference? Did he actually
badmouth Buddy Holly or what?
Also, _please_ e-mail me responses (as well as posting them if you want).. I
don't read rec.music.misc.
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Andreas Riese
unk...@apple.com (Matt Ackeret) writes:
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>Could someone please go into a little more detail about this? What did Mick
>Jagger do that makes this an appropriate reference? Did he actually
>badmouth Buddy Holly or what?
I think this refers to the song "Sympathy for the devil" by the Stones,
where the singer (Mick) is Satan (".. hope you guess my name!", "... call
me Lucifer ..."
Andreas.
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Michael J. Burkhard
>Hi!
>unk...@apple.com (Matt Ackeret) writes:
>[...]
>>Could someone please go into a little more detail about this? What did Mick
>>Jagger do that makes this an appropriate reference? Did he actually
>>badmouth Buddy Holly or what?
>I think this refers to the song "Sympathy for the devil" by the Stones,
>where the singer (Mick) is Satan (".. hope you guess my name!", "... call
>me Lucifer ..."
>Andreas.
Forgive me if this has been discussed ad nauseum, I fell behind during
break....
I think the above post is probably correct the "Sympathy..."
reference. However, the line :
"No angel born in hell could break that Satan's spell"
supposedly refers to the Altamont (sp?) concert where the Stones
hired Hell's Angels to act as security, and the Angels ended up
killing a member of the audience. I've read (so take this for
what it's worth - not much...) that Don McLean viewed the Stones
as the pinnacle of all that was wrong with rock music. (lots of
violence, drugs, etc... )
Just my two cents...
Mike Burkhard
Gary Milliken
>Andrea...@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Andreas Riese) writes:
>
>>I think this refers to the song "Sympathy for the devil" by the Stones,
>>where the singer (Mick) is Satan (".. hope you guess my name!", "... call
>>me Lucifer ..."
>
>reference. However, the line :
> "No angel born in hell could break that Satan's spell"
>supposedly refers to the Altamont (sp?) concert where the Stones
>hired Hell's Angels to act as security, and the Angels ended up
>killing a member of the audience. I've read (so take this for
>what it's worth - not much...) that Don McLean viewed the Stones
>as the pinnacle of all that was wrong with rock music. (lots of
>violence, drugs, etc... )
But he won't confirm this in the most public forum. He appeared on
the Bob Costas show within the last couple of weeks, and Costas
asked him directly about the Mick Jagger reference (saying something
like "Do you ever run into Mick Jagger?"). McLean dodged the question,
saying "I've never endorsed anyone's interpretation of the song.....
I have the highest regard for Mick Jagger...."
Rich Lenihan
>Could someone please go into a little more detail about this? What did Mick
>Jagger do that makes this an appropriate reference? Did he actually
>badmouth Buddy Holly or what?
Actually, Mick speaks very highly of Buddy Holly. He said at one point
that while most performers of the time (Elvis included) owed almost
everything to black (R&B) music, Buddy was a true original.
What Don M. means by "satan laughed", I do not know.
FWIW, I agree with Mick.
Rave on...
-Rich
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Andrew Rogers
>>Did he [Mick Jagger] actually badmouth Buddy Holly or what?
>
>Actually, Mick speaks very highly of Buddy Holly. He said at one point
>that while most performers of the time (Elvis included) owed almost
>everything to black (R&B) music, Buddy was a true original.
Don't forget that the Stones' first US single was a cover of Buddy Holly's
"Not Fade Away", although their version owes more to an earlier Bo Diddley
cover than to Holly's original...
AWR
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