Shriekback
Phil
I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
It annoys me having to buy British artists on import from the States, but
still, thanks!
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: Thanks to everyone who reccommended/gave me info on Shriekback...
Is Big Night Music TMBG?
Just curious.
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Aaron V. Humphrey
>Thanks to everyone who reccommended/gave me info on Shriekback...
>I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
>It annoys me having to buy British artists on import from the States, but
>still, thanks!
De nada. Aren't they awesome? And those awful puns, too. "Braving the
elements, the reptiles and I." And you gotta love them liner notes...
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Paul Martz
> De nada. Aren't they awesome? And those awful puns, too. "Braving the
> elements, the reptiles and I." And you gotta love them liner notes...
Back in the early eighties, I heard their first album "Care" and was
humbly impressed. Their next album came out, don't remember what it
was called. I listened to it a few times and it began to grate on me.
More and more, I was drawn back to "Care". Then they came to Detroit
for a concert. I was very disappointed! They played every single song
off their second album, playing one of them TWICE, and only played one
song off "Care"! I've considered them a scam and a ripoff ever since.
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Lady of the Lake
>I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
I've had that album for a couple years and still just love it. "Cradle
Song" is one of my top slow songs of all time, if not my most favorite.
I bought _Go_Bang!_ a few years ago and was REALLY disappointed. It
didn't sound the same at all; I ended up selling the tape. But
_Big_Night_Music_ is a classic.
(sorry for the non-tmbg content. my next message will be better, i promise.)
Charis
fuzzy logic
>Thanks to everyone who reccommended/gave me info on Shriekback...
>
>I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
>
>It annoys me having to buy British artists on import from the States, but
>still, thanks!
>
Great album but it is not an import here in Canada. Just tough to find. Sacred
City is pretty good but BNM is my fav.
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Aaron V. Humphrey
>ee9...@brunel.ac.uk (Phil) writes:
>>I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>>3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
>I've had that album for a couple years and still just love it. "Cradle
>Song" is one of my top slow songs of all time, if not my most favorite.
I agree totally. I plan to sing it to my children...
>I bought _Go_Bang!_ a few years ago and was REALLY disappointed. It
>didn't sound the same at all; I ended up selling the tape. But
>_Big_Night_Music_ is a classic.
"Sacred City" is back to their good stuff--only one song made me think of
"Go Bang!" at all. And sometimes, if I'm in the right mood, I'll actually
enjoy "Go Bang!"; for dance music, it's great; for Shriekback, it's
disappointing.
>(sorry for the non-tmbg content. my next message will be better, i promise.)
Well, I like Shriekback just as well as TMBG, and get less opportunity to
talk about them as they're less well-known, so I won't apologize, Dammit!
I probably know their songs better than TMBG's, too, since I've been
listening to them for longer.
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Jon Drukman
>Back in the early eighties, I heard their first album "Care" and was
>humbly impressed. Their next album came out, don't remember what it
>was called. I listened to it a few times and it began to grate on me.
>More and more, I was drawn back to "Care". Then they came to Detroit
>for a concert. I was very disappointed! They played every single song
>off their second album, playing one of them TWICE, and only played one
>song off "Care"! I've considered them a scam and a ripoff ever since.
that's a pretty silly attitude - obviously the newer stuff is fresher
in the band's mind and they have probably been rehearsing it a lot
more than stuff that might be a year or more old by that point. i saw
Shriekback twice - the 2nd time was after Big Night Music and they
didn't play a lot of stuff from Oil & Gold, which is the album I
really wanted to hear stuff from. i was a little disappointed but i
would call it a scam or a ripoff... i mean, it was advertised as the
Big Night Music tour...
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Paul Sheard
>pma...@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
>
>>In article <aaron.7...@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca>, aa...@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca (Aaron V. Humphrey) writes:
>>> De nada. Aren't they awesome? And those awful puns, too. "Braving the
>>> elements, the reptiles and I." And you gotta love them liner notes...
>
>Well, their first album was not "Care", I think, but "The Infinite"; "Care"
>had most of the same songs("Lines From The Library" and one or two others
>were new), and was probably a North American release or something. I
>believe their next album was "Jam Science", but I didn't hear about it for
>years, so I presume you're talking about "Oil And Gold"...
All this reminds me of a shriekback concert I went to a long, long time
ago. I used to have two albums which were released before Go, Bang and
prior to Oil and Gold. One of them I'm sure was called "Tench", the other
had a similar one word, short sylable title, although I can't remember
it. I think it was tench which had the sounds of a rope or a whip or a tube
being twirled very quickly. It gave one of those air note type sounds that
you get when you twirl a hollow plastic pipe round your head very quickly.
Can anyone identify this album and either its predecessor or the following
one. I bet they are discontinued and impossible to find. I had mine nicked.
Also, not having bother with them since these days, I think I didn't like
one of their follow up albums, are they still playing stuff along the lines
of those early albums ??
Paul.
Paul Martz
> >Back in the early eighties, I heard their first album "Care" and was
> >humbly impressed. Their next album came out, don't remember what it
> >was called. I listened to it a few times and it began to grate on me.
> >More and more, I was drawn back to "Care". Then they came to Detroit
> >for a concert. I was very disappointed! They played every single song
> >off their second album, playing one of them TWICE, and only played one
> >song off "Care"! I've considered them a scam and a ripoff ever since.
>
> had most of the same songs("Lines From The Library" and one or two others
> were new), and was probably a North American release or something. I
> believe their next album was "Jam Science", but I didn't hear about it for
> years, so I presume you're talking about "Oil And Gold"...
>
> "Care" were three albums back for them, and they'd no doubt gone through a
> lot of changes in the meantime.
Yes, it was the Oil & Gold tour. If they had an album out between that
and Care, I missed it. Anyhow, my point was that any band with two
albums (and you're saying they had even more than that), is going to
disappoint a fair number of their fans if they play ALL of their
latest album and practically nothing from previous albums. My God,
they were only on stage for 50 minutes! Yet you're telling me they had
enough material for a 2 hour show? And they played one of their songs
TWICE?? This is just inexcusable in my opinion.
> Maybe you're one of those people whom it doesn't take much to convince that
> a band has "sold out".
"Sold out" is not the word. "Scam" and "ripoff" come to mind.
Paul Martz
> that's a pretty silly attitude - obviously the newer stuff is fresher
> in the band's mind and they have probably been rehearsing it a lot
> more than stuff that might be a year or more old by that point. i saw
> Shriekback twice - the 2nd time was after Big Night Music and they
> didn't play a lot of stuff from Oil & Gold, which is the album I
> really wanted to hear stuff from. i was a little disappointed but i
> would call it a scam or a ripoff... i mean, it was advertised as the
> Big Night Music tour...
Sure, I see your point. I used to play in a band myself, and we got
tired of doing our old material over and over again. But we never got
to the point where we would play one of our new songs twice when we
still had old material we hadn't played that evening yet! That's just
a ripoff, in my opinion.
Beakman
: pma...@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
: >Back in the early eighties, I heard their first album "Care" and was
: >humbly impressed. Their next album came out, don't remember what it
: >was called. I listened to it a few times and it began to grate on me.
: >More and more, I was drawn back to "Care". Then they came to Detroit
: >for a concert. I was very disappointed! They played every single song
: >off their second album, playing one of them TWICE, and only played one
: >song off "Care"! I've considered them a scam and a ripoff ever since.
: Well, their first album was not "Care", I think, but "The Infinite"; "Care"
: had most of the same songs("Lines From The Library" and one or two others
: were new), and was probably a North American release or something. I
: believe their next album was "Jam Science", but I didn't hear about it for
: years, so I presume you're talking about "Oil And Gold"...
O.K. here is the Shriekback Discography. I'm not saying this is
complete, 'cause it's only what was available to me here in the States.
1982 - Tench (not really terrific IMHO)
1983 - Care (this is probably my favorite)
1984 - Jam Science (a couple of o.k. tunes, but again, not terrific)
1985 - Oil and Gold (a classic, back in fine form, my #2 pick)
1986 - Big Night Music (another great release)
Now at this point, Dave Allen and Steve Halliwell - both key members of
the band up until now, go off to form King Swamp II leaving Barry Andrews
to fend for himself. As a side note, after 1982 Dave Allen had a brief
tour in Gang Of Four, and Barry Andrews was briefly with Restaurant For
Dogs. Before Shriekback Barry was in League of Gentlemen and XTC. You
should check out XTC's album White Music to see a photo of a very young
Mr. Andrews. But, I digress...
1988 - Go Bang! (good, but different due to the absense of Allen & Halliwell
Martyn Barker joins Allen & Halliwell in King Swamp, as does Mike Cozzi,
after a short stop in the Andrew Ridgeley Band. Barry Andrews does a
stint in a band called Illuminati.
1990 - The Dancing Years (this is a compilation of extended mixes and
live cuts of songs from earlier albums).
1992 - Sacred City (another good album. Dave Allen, Barry Andrews, and
Martyn Barker are once again reunited for this album, hence the good old
familiar sounds.)
I saw the band on their most recent tour (Sacred City). They played a
lot of old tunes, a bunch of encores, a long show. The show was
extremely high energy - I have to say it was one of the best concerts
I've seen.
Well, there you go. I hope this helps.
- Dave
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Simon Mark Usher
> With all these Shriekback posts, I was wondering if anyone is (was) a fan of
> King Swamp? They put out two CDs that were very good. More rocked up than
> Shriekback but it was great music. Sadly, they got no label support and
> little airplay after "Is This Love" (sounds like most groups out there!).
> King Swamp, comments?......
IMHO, quite simply some of the best rock music of recent years.
Simon
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Aaron V. Humphrey
>O.K. here is the Shriekback Discography. I'm not saying this is
>complete, 'cause it's only what was available to me here in the States.
>
>1982 - Tench (not really terrific IMHO)
Never even heard of this one! As a completist, I'll definitely have to
keep an eye out...
>1983 - Care (this is probably my favorite)
>1984 - Jam Science (a couple of o.k. tunes, but again, not terrific)
>1985 - Oil and Gold (a classic, back in fine form, my #2 pick)
>1986 - Big Night Music (another great release)
>
>Now at this point, Dave Allen and Steve Halliwell - both key members of
>the band up until now, go off to form King Swamp II leaving Barry Andrews
>to fend for himself. As a side note, after 1982 Dave Allen had a brief
>tour in Gang Of Four, and Barry Andrews was briefly with Restaurant For
>Dogs. Before Shriekback Barry was in League of Gentlemen and XTC. You
>should check out XTC's album White Music to see a photo of a very young
>Mr. Andrews. But, I digress...
>
>1988 - Go Bang! (good, but different due to the absense of Allen & Halliwell
That explains it! Definitely a weak album...but I guess I didn't read the
credits closely enough to reach the obvious conclusion that there was
someone missing...
>Martyn Barker joins Allen & Halliwell in King Swamp, as does Mike Cozzi,
>after a short stop in the Andrew Ridgeley Band. Barry Andrews does a
>stint in a band called Illuminati.
>1990 - The Dancing Years (this is a compilation of extended mixes and
> live cuts of songs from earlier albums).
Maybe even my completist self can skip this one.
>1992 - Sacred City (another good album. Dave Allen, Barry Andrews, and
>Martyn Barker are once again reunited for this album, hence the good old
>familiar sounds.)
Oh, yes. "Signs" is a truly wonderful song..."Every Force Evolves A Form"
evokes Go Bang! a bit too much, but apart from that it's equal to their
best stuff.
>I saw the band on their most recent tour (Sacred City). They played a
>lot of old tunes, a bunch of encores, a long show. The show was
>extremely high energy - I have to say it was one of the best concerts
>I've seen.
I'd have loved to see that. <sigh> Nobody comes to Edmonton worth seeing.
Well, okay, Sarah McLachlan...:-)
>Well, there you go. I hope this helps.
Thanks bunchly!
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Ozric Tentacles
Somebody mentioned "The Infinite" as their first, well I have it, and
it seems to be a best of compilation.
The Best Of Shriekback - The Infinite
KAZ CD 1
no date on it anywhere. (p) Y records (c) Kaz Records
Track Listing:
1) Lined Up 2) Clear Trails 3) Accretions 4) Sway
5) Madness Into Method 6) My Spine (Is The Bass Line)
7) Mothloop 8) Sexthinkone 9) Evaporation
10) A Kind of Fascination 11) Working On The Ground
The Best Of Shriekback - Volume Two -- Evolution
KAZ CD 5
(p) 1984 and 1985 BMG Arista Records (c) 1988 Kaz Records
Track Listing:
1) Nemesis 2) Fish Below The Ice 3) Hand On My Heart
4) New Home 5) Despite Dense Weed 6) Midnight Maps
7) Mercy Dash 8) Malaria 9) Under The Lights
10) My Careful Hands 11) Nerve 12) Lines From The Library
Picked them both up during a trip to Paris in Nov 1991. Purchased
separately at two different record stores. Was happy to find Vol 2.
Was ecstatic to find the first one a few days later. They both have
lizards on the front. The Infinite has 3 in a black and white photo.
Evolution has one in a color-negative photo that is mostly blue shades.
Both manufactured by Nimbus. Two different addresses for Kaz Records.
The Infinite has: Kaz Records Ltd., 110 Strand, London WC2
Evolution has: Kaz Music (UK) Ltd., P.O. Box 125, London W9 3DU
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Sati
If I remember correctlyk, King Swamp was the LOUDEST show I've ever been
to in a small venue. I was standing "safely" near the back of the club,
and still, my ears didn't stop ringing for two days afterward. I was
really, really pissed off... and maybe it was just me, but judging from
the bitterness and resentment that the band seemed to be harbouring that
night, it was almost like they were intending to somehow lash out at the
dismal showing of fans.
Beakman
: bea...@netcom.com (Beakman) writes:
: >1986 - Big Night Music (another great release)
: >
: >Now at this point, Dave Allen and Steve Halliwell - both key members of
: >the band up until now,
: Steve Halliwell was hardly a "key member" - he only appeared doing
: additional keyboards on Big Night Music and has never done anything
: with the band prior to that.
Yah, sorry...in a frezy of posting I wrote the thing about Halliwell. I
didn't mean to put him in the same category as Barry, Dave, and Carl.
- Dave
Everett Katzen
(Lady of the Lake) wrote:
> ee9...@brunel.ac.uk (Phil) writes:
>
> >I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
> >3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
>
> I've had that album for a couple years and still just love it. "Cradle
> Song" is one of my top slow songs of all time, if not my most favorite.
>
> I bought _Go_Bang!_
> Hey, "Go Bang" is great,it's alot of fun to listen to, and isn't that the point??
> Charis
Joshua Brandt
>>
>> >I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>> >3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
Okay, so I have _Big_Night_Music_ and _Oil_&_Gold_, and I have listened to
them many, many, many times, and I love them so...
I saw the discography, and I've seen other Shriekback albums that are
missing certain musicians. How do other albums, like, say, _Care_ and
_Go_Bang!_ compare to BNM and O&G? Are they as good? I have a small-enough
budget to hesitate to buy them unheard, knowing that even the best bands can
have off-days...
Josh
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Beakman
: missing certain musicians. How do other albums, like, say, _Care_ and
: _Go_Bang!_ compare to BNM and O&G? Are they as good? I have a small-enough
: budget to hesitate to buy them unheard, knowing that even the best bands can
: have off-days...
: Josh
Go Bang is more "pop/dance" style music ...it's o.k., but it will never
be a "classic". On the other hand Care is a definitive classic (IMHO).
It is not as complex "sounding" as BNM or O&G, i.e. it is "simpler"
instrumentation - less Wall-Of-Sound like. Care is my favorite
Shriekback album. If you want to hear how they got to BNM and O&G, I
would suggest starting with Care.
- Dave
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Aaron V. Humphrey
>>> ee9...@brunel.ac.uk (Phil) writes:
>>>
>>> >I've just been & bought _Big Night Music_ and boy is it good! Played it
>>> >3 times already & haven't had it a day yet...
>Okay, so I have _Big_Night_Music_ and _Oil_&_Gold_, and I have listened to
>them many, many, many times, and I love them so...
>I saw the discography, and I've seen other Shriekback albums that are
>missing certain musicians. How do other albums, like, say, _Care_ and
>_Go_Bang!_ compare to BNM and O&G? Are they as good? I have a small-enough
>budget to hesitate to buy them unheard, knowing that even the best bands can
>have off-days...
Well, "Care" is _very_ low-key, musically, barring perhaps "Lines From The
Library"... The bass is very prominent, the vocals are much less so.
"Go Bang!" is on the other end of the scale. It's very dancy, the lyrics
are sometimes interesting but often the music(sort of that 'brassy' dance
sound)gets on my nerves. Reminds me of "Teddybear, Duke & Psycho" by
Heaven 17, if that's any help...:-)
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John Eisenman
(Jon Drukman) writes:
|> >As a side note, after 1982 Dave Allen had a brief
|> >tour in Gang Of Four,
|>
|> i'm pretty sure he was in Go4 before joining Shriekback actually.
Yes, Dave Allen was an original member of Gang of Four. He was the
bass player they found through and ad. He was also the first to leave,
but on only after 2 or 3 great albums. Check out the best of collection,
"A Brief History of Time", or something like that.
Unknown
7IHd
Does anyone know if their 3 earlier albums are ever likely to be released
on CD, and if not, whether they're available on tape? (I'd rather have the
3 albums than go for the best of(s)).
PS: Sacred City is my current fave... especially Psycho Drift...
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Jon Drukman
>Does anyone know if their 3 earlier albums are ever likely to be released
>on CD, and if not, whether they're available on tape? (I'd rather have the
>3 albums than go for the best of(s)).
I'm not exactly sure what the "3 earlier albums" are... you've got
"Care" which *is* out on CD (Best Of Vol 1 = Care, more or less.)
then there's "Jam Science" which, lamentably, is not completely
available on CD. what else am I missing? are you counting "Tench"?
that was only an EP and some of the songs on it are on CD already.
i doubt they will ever go back and do justice to Jam Science by
releasing a CD which corresponds to the vinyl LP exactly.
Aaron Mandel
: I'm not exactly sure what the "3 earlier albums" are... you've got
: "Care" which *is* out on CD (Best Of Vol 1 = Care, more or less.)
: then there's "Jam Science" which, lamentably, is not completely
: available on CD. what else am I missing? are you counting "Tench"?
: that was only an EP and some of the songs on it are on CD already.
: i doubt they will ever go back and do justice to Jam Science by
: releasing a CD which corresponds to the vinyl LP exactly.
Hang on. I thought I'd read all the articles in this thread, but I didn't
hear any references to getting the older stuff on CD. When you say it's
available on CD, do you mean that it's been printed at at some point, or
that it can actually be found. Can you post the information you've got?
Aaron Mandel
ama...@husc9.harvard.edu
Jon Drukman
>Hang on. I thought I'd read all the articles in this thread, but I didn't
>hear any references to getting the older stuff on CD. When you say it's
>available on CD, do you mean that it's been printed at at some point, or
>that it can actually be found. Can you post the information you've got?
well, this is a rehash, but there are two volumes of "old stuff" on
CD.
The Infinite (best of shriekback volume one)
Evolution (best of shriekback volume two)
both on Kaz Records out of England. i imagine they are pretty
difficult to find nowadays. for a list of what's on them and where it
originally came from, check the discography in the music archives at
cs.uwp.edu.
7IHd
# Jon Drukman (jdrukman%dls...@oracle.com) wrote:
# : I'm not exactly sure what the "3 earlier albums" are... you've got
# : "Care" which *is* out on CD (Best Of Vol 1 = Care, more or less.)
# : then there's "Jam Science" which, lamentably, is not completely
# : available on CD. what else am I missing? are you counting "Tench"?
# : that was only an EP and some of the songs on it are on CD already.
# : i doubt they will ever go back and do justice to Jam Science by
# : releasing a CD which corresponds to the vinyl LP exactly.
Sorry bit late responding to this - news has been down.
OK, If I can't get Care (exactly - I'm fussy like that), Tench & Jam Science
on CD, can I get them on tape?
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