Eddie Jobson / Mark Craney
Michael Rawdon
Eddie Jobson? I know he played on ROXY MUSIC's _Stranded_, _Country_Life_
and _Siren (1973-75), with a band called U.K. in the late '70s, on
JETHRO TULL's _A_ in 1980 and with YES for a brief time prior to the
recording of _90125_.
I'd be interested in knowing what albums he's played on with U.K. and other
groups, which albums are available and in what formats (LP, CD, Cassette),
and general background about him (who he is, why he does what he does,
etc. etc.). Are there any books out about him? What's he doing now?
In a similar vein, does anyone know of any other albums that the drummer
on Tull's _A_ album, Mark Craney, has played on? He's apparently a
friend of Jobson's (which is why he was on that album). I like his stuff
there a lot, enough that I think he might be Tull's best drummer.
E-mail or post responses, whatever. Anything you can tell me I'd be
happy to hear.
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New Orleans, Louisiana | From time, the great healer,
raw...@rex.cs.tulane.edu | the Machine Messiah is born. -YES
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Richard Todd
>Can anyone send me a biography and/or discography of keyboardist/violinist
>Eddie Jobson? I know he played on ROXY MUSIC's _Stranded_, _Country_Life_
>and _Siren (1973-75), with a band called U.K. in the late '70s, on
>JETHRO TULL's _A_ in 1980 and with YES for a brief time prior to the
>recording of _90125_.
>I'd be interested in knowing what albums he's played on with U.K. and other
>groups, which albums are available and in what formats (LP, CD, Cassette),
>and general background about him (who he is, why he does what he does,
>etc. etc.). Are there any books out about him? What's he doing now?
Well, Eddie Jobson started out in the British art-rock band Curved Air,
joining them at the age of 17. He had been a big Curved Air fan in high
school and had gotten to know the band members and had impressed Darryl Way
with his violin playing, so when original Curved Air violinist Way and
keyboardist/guitarist Francis Monkman decided to leave the band, Jobson
seemed like an obvious replacement. Jobson appeared on the 1973 _Air Cut_
album, playing keyboards and violin. Alas, _Air Cut_ is out of print and
not available on CD.
After _Air Cut_, Curved Air broke up (and later reformed, but without
Jobson). Jobson joined Roxy Music and appeared on three studio
albums _Stranded_, _Country Life_, and _Siren_, as well as the 1976 live
album _Viva!_. All are currently available on import CD.
About this time (1976), he released a solo single "Yesterday Boulevard/On
A Still Night". This one's long out of print, and practically impossible
to find. Both are instrumental pieces, with "Yesterday Boulevard" being a
Curved Air-style high-speed violin piece, and "On a Still Night" being a
solo piano piece much like the stuff he did later on _Piano One_.
Jobson also appeared as a guest on King Crimson's live album _USA_ (1975),
playing violin. After Roxy Music broke up, he joined Frank Zappa's band.
I'm not sure what all albums he appeared on with Zappa, but he definitely
appeared on the _Live In New York_ album (1977). This one is out of print
and not available on CD as far as I know.
Around 1977, John Wetton, Bill Bruford, and Robert Fripp were talking
about reforming Crimson, and they invited Jobson to join them. The plan
fell through when Fripp decided not to go on with it, but the remaining
musicians got together with Allan Holdsworth to form UK. UK released three
albums:
UK (1978)
Danger Money (1979)
Night After Night (1979) (live album)
All are out on CD in England, and reportedly are becoming available
domestically Real Soon Now; _UK_ is already out here. The lineup on the
first album was:
Bill Bruford: drums
Allan Holdsworth: guitar
John Wetton: bass, vocals
Eddie Jobson: keyboards, violin.
Allan Holdsworth and
Bill Bruford left after the first album; Bruford was replaced by ex-Zappa
drummer Terry Bozzio on the last two albums.
UK broke up after the _Night After Night_ album, with Bozzio going on to
form Missing Persons and Wetton forming Asia. Jobson ended up joining
Jethro Tull for the _A_ album (1980). There's also a videotape,
_Slipstream_, of videos and concert footage from the _A_ tour that features
Jobson. Highly recommended if you can find it.
In 1983, Eddie Jobson released his first solo album, _The Green Album_.
This one's out of print and not available on CD. Pity, as it features what
I think is his finest keyboard and violin playing ever. Various backup
musicians appeared on the album, but nobody particularly famous, except for
ex-Gentle Giant Gary Green, who played guitar on a couple of tracks.
In 1985, Peter Baumann (ex-Tangerine Dream) founded the Private Music
record label, which has since become one of the best-known newage music
labels. One of the first four releases on the label was _Piano One_, a
sampler of solo piano music by four musicians. Eddie Jobson was one of
them, and he has three pieces on the album, "The Dark Room", "Ballooning
Over Texas", and "Disturbance in Vienna". This album is still in print and
is available on CD.
Jobson's next solo album, _Theme of Secrets_, appeared later in 1985 on
the Private Music label. It's an all-synthesizer album, no violins at all.
I belive this one is still in print and can be found on CD.
What has Jobson done since 1985? Nothing as far as I know. I'd love to
be proven wrong in this. I have no idea what he's doing now. I keep
hoping there'll be a new solo album come out...
If you're a fan of Eddie Jobson, you might like the work of Curved Air
members Darryl Way and Francis Monkman, both solo and with Curved Air. If
anyone's interested, let me know and I'll come up with Way and Monkman
discographies, too.
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Richard Todd rmt...@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu rmt...@chinet.chi.il.us
rmt...@servalan.uucp
Michael Rawdon
>raw...@rex.cs.tulane.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
> After _Air Cut_, Curved Air broke up (and later reformed, but without
>Jobson). Jobson joined Roxy Music and appeared on three studio
>albums _Stranded_, _Country Life_, and _Siren_, as well as the 1976 live
>album _Viva!_. All are currently available on import CD.
They're actually available on DOMESTIC CD. All of Roxy's stuff is. It
was just released about seven months ago, to my knowledge.
> If you're a fan of Eddie Jobson, you might like the work of Curved Air
>members Darryl Way and Francis Monkman, both solo and with Curved Air. If
>anyone's interested, let me know and I'll come up with Way and Monkman
>discographies, too.
I know Darryl Way did violin on JETHRO TULL's _Heavy_Horses_ album, BTW.
John_Fereira
>
>> If you're a fan of Eddie Jobson, you might like the work of Curved Air
>>members Darryl Way and Francis Monkman, both solo and with Curved Air. If
>>anyone's interested, let me know and I'll come up with Way and Monkman
>>discographies, too.
>
his albums called "Daryl Way's Wolf" It's got a picture of a wolf on
the cover. It's a good album.
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John Fereira
john%hp-...@hplabs.hp.com or jo...@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com
Toshinori Sato
>Can anyone send me a biography and/or discography of keyboardist/violinist
>Eddie Jobson? I know he played on ROXY MUSIC's _Stranded_, _Country_Life_
>and _Siren (1973-75), with a band called U.K. in the late '70s, on
>JETHRO TULL's _A_ in 1980 and with YES for a brief time prior to the
>recording of _90125_.
>
>I'd be interested in knowing what albums he's played on with U.K. and other
>groups, which albums are available and in what formats (LP, CD, Cassette),
>and general background about him (who he is, why he does what he does,
>etc. etc.). Are there any books out about him? What's he doing now?
UK: UK
Danger Money
Night after Night
Eddie Jobson/Zink: The Green Album
King Crimson: USA
Curved Air: Air Cut
Best of Curved Air
Roxy Music: Stranded
Country Life
Siren
Greatest Hits
Bryan Ferry: Let's Stick Togther
Andy Mackey: In Search of Eddie Riff
Frank Zappa: In New York
Studio Tan
Sleep Dirt
Jethro Tull: A
John Entwhisthe's Ox: Mad Dog
Amazind Blondel: Mulgrave Street
Jasun Mortz: The Pilliory
These are all I know.
But I don't know whether these albums are now available or not.
In Japan, the works of UK, King Crimson, and Roxy Music are available.
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# Toshinori Sato: sa...@tamaru.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp #
# Tamaru Lab., Dept. of Electr. Eng., Kyoto Univ., Japan #
Bill Heiden
>Andy Mackey: In Search of Eddie Riff
It's Mackay, but that's okay. Eddie Riff, what a classic. Can you get
this on cd in Japan? For those of you who aren't familiar with Mackay,
he is/was(?) the saxophone player for Roxy Music. Eddie Riff was a solo
album he released in the mid seventies. The music is rock saxophone
at some of it's best and strangest; Ride of the Valkilries (Wagner meets
rock sax), What Becomes of the Broken Hearted (Boots Randolph style),
The Long and Winding Road (all percussion supplied by reed instruments).
If you appreciate rocking sax, then by all means give this album a listen.
Also check out Resolving Contradictions; based on his trip to Mainland
China. Mackay is also responsible for the incredible sax solo on
Mott the Hoople's "All the Way to Memphis". Thanks for bringing Mackay
into the conversation, Tosh.
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Erland Sommarskog
>>Can anyone send me a biography and/or discography of keyboardist/violinist
>>Eddie Jobson?
> Studio Tan
> Sleep Dirt
This is not correct. Jobson played on "New York", but not the other
two. "Studio Tan" was recorded simultaneously with "One Size Fits
All" so that is really out of the issue. "Sleep Dirt" was recorded
in 1974 and 1976 so that leaves a little chance for him to slip in,
but my Zappalog does mot mention him.
He did, however, appear on the *cover* to "Zoot Allures", but he
is not the album.
By the way, Richard Fox asked in his Zappa trivia on which two albums
Captain Beefheart appeared on. Make the number at least three. Beside
"Hot Rats" and "Bongo Fury", the latter credited to Zappa/Beefheart/Mothers,
he also appears on "Zoot Allures" where he plays harmonica on "Find
Her Finer".
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Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - som...@enea.se
Ken Walter
Beefheart also appears (as "Bloodshot Rollin' Red," I think) on One Size Fits All and on some tracks on the "Mystery Disc" in the Old Masters Vol. 1.
Jobson was Eno's replacement in Roxy Music before joining Zappa.
robi...@geocub.greco-prog.fr
Salut [03.04.90]
Forum est tres bien (je ne veux pas m'atirer les foudres de
Sylvain), mais parler a quatres ou cinq, avec une vision de deux
lignes ne permet certainement de faire passer exactement son idee.
Alors je fais ce mail pour preciser certains de mes dire d'hier.
Car en plus je crois que ``certaines'' personnes parlaint dans leur
coins sur le maximum de sujets possibles, mais ne lisaient pas trop
ce que les autres ecrivaient...
Avant de redire ce que je voulais dire hier, je tiens a
eclaire, certaines de mes affirmations rapides (que je n'avais ni
expliquees, ni justifiees, faute de temps et d'ecoute).
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Que signifie ``We do what we're told'' (told to do) ?
Je ne vous ferais pas l'afront de traduire, car c'est pas un
probleme de traduction qui se pose, c'est un probleme
d'interpretation, de contexte, et de justification de cette
phrase!! (qui n'est pas a la gloire de ``l'Humanite''. Quand Peter
Gabriel a chante pour la premiere fois cette chanson (bien plus
vielle que son album ``so''), il faisait reference a une
experience, maintenant assez connus, sur le comportement humain.
Les personnes qui ont vu ``I comme Icare'' comprendrons vite de
quoi je parle, car le film s'y attarde pas mal...:
Le proces de Nuremberg a statue que les individus etaient
responsables de leur actes, et qu'ils ne pouvaient pas se justifier
par des ordres de la hierachie. Un psychologue (dont j'ai oublie le
nom) a voulu voir si ca corespondait bien a la realite. Pour cela
il a monte une experience. Ils a pris au hasard dans les rues de
New York des individus (des americains moyens, vivants dans un
Democratie) volontaires pour une experience: L'individus etaient
mis en presence d'un autre ``volontaire''. On lui expliquait qu'il
s'agissait d'une experience sur la memoire, et sur l'effet des
punitions. Un des deux volontaires devra aprendre une liste de
couples de mots, et l'autre devra l'interoger apres. En cas
d'erreur l'interogateur infligera une punition a l'interog'e. La
punition sera a chaque fois plus forte. On ``tire au hasard'' qui
est l'interogateur, et le hasard tombe sur l'individu. (Je precise
que on lui a donner a tt moment la permission d'arreter
l'experience, y compris des cet instant). L'interog'e apprend sa
liste, et est attache a une chaise, qui lui donnera des decharges
electriques a chaque erreur. L'interogateur est devant une table de
controle, ou il y a une serie de curseurs qu'il devra pousser a
chaque erreur, pour infliger la punition a l'interog'e (les
decharges). Une ``medecin en blouse blanche'' reste en temoin et
``prend des notes'' au fur a mesure de l'operation. Le jeu
commence. Vous aurez compris que le test'e, ici est l'interogateur,
pas l'interog'e. L'interog'e est en fait un comedien qui devra
simuler la douleur au fur et a mesure que la punition augemente.
Pour terminer le tableau, je dois indiquer que sur la console que
l'interogateur manipule, il y a une marque qui indique ``danger'' a
partir d'un certain curseur. Les resultats: ?. Assez clair, tres
peu ont refuse de se pretter a l'experience (la population etait
bien sur des gens qui au depart etaient volontaires pour ``une
experience''). Les gens s'arretaient relativement vite en moyennes
(qd le commedien commencaient a le demander). Mais pourtant, malgre
les cris du comediens (en presence du ``medecin'', l'autorite)
certains ont depasse la zone rouge, et ont tue (le comedien
arrivait a un stade, simulant la mort).
Ce n'est pas a moi de tirer des consequences de cette
experience, je la rappellais pour aider l'interpretation du ``we do
what we're told''. En presence de ``l'autorite'' des personnes par
ailleurs jugees saines d'esprit peuvent tuer, et tuer par la
douleur. Il existe bien des variantes de cette experience, mais
elles menent irremediablment au meme resultat. Dans le meme lot, on
peut caser les mouvements de foules (paradoxe: Peter Gabriel fait
chanter dans ses concerts la chanson ``we do what we're told''.
Certe chanter n a rien de reprehensible, mais combien ont reflechi
a leur acte de ce moment ? la plus part chantent parceque cela
leur a ete dit, et parceque le reste de la foule chante ....)
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Pour la suite j'ai besoin du contexte. Quelqu'un a commis un
acte reprehensible. J'ai dit que sous certaines conditions (j'y
reviendrai) je suis pret a pardonner, mais pas a oublier.
Cela avait choque Cyrille. Alors je tiens a expliquer mes
paroles. Je me replace dans l'exemple qui a provoque la
conversation (exemple un peu extreme, mais qui n'en explique que
mieux ma phrase). Quelque soit le comportement que l'on doit avoir
vis a vis d'un criminel de guerre ayant comis ses actes il y a plus
de 40 ans (pardon, ou non), je crois qu'il ne faut surtout pas
oublier que cela s'est produit. Ce que je ne veux pas oublier,
ce n'est pas que `Untel'' a commis Tel acte, mais qu'un Tel acte a
ete commis. L'oublier c'est un peu l'autoriser une seconde fois...
Et puis pardonner un acte ne veux pas dire non plus l'ignorer. Ca
veux dire (pour moi du moins), je mesure tres bien ce qu'il a fait,
je ne l'oublie pas, mais je suis pret a ne pas en tenir plus en
tenir compte. L'acte existe, et je le sais, mais il en aucun cas il
ne viendra se placer entre moi et lui. (et donc je ne vais pas lui
remettre ca sur le plat chaque jour, etc etc ...).
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Enfin, comme je ne suis pas sur d'avoir ete compris, voici mon
avis sur la seule et unique question que j'ai pose hier.
Vous aprennez qu'un ami (ami du verbe ``aimer'', pas du verbe
``bien-aimer'' !!) a commis dans son passe un acte reprehensible
(quelqu'en soit son importance...). Cet ami vie maintenant une vie
a l'oppose de cet acte (de facon sincere). Etes vous pret a lui
pardonner ? (quelque soit l'importance de son acte).
Ma reponse (dans la mesure ou je crois me connaitre) est oui.
Pour mieux me faire comprendre (de ceux qui ont une culture
chretienne) j'ai cite hier l'exemple de Paul. Il persecute et tue
les premiers chretiens, puis suite a Damas, il devient le plus
fervent d'entre eux. Cette exemple a plein d'avantage, mais c'est
surtout pour faire comprendre ce que j'entends par ``une vie a
l'opose de cet acte'', que je le cite....
Maintenant c'est vrai que j'ai bien precise que je parlais
d'un ami (car je ne suis pas capable de donner une reponse aussi
nette --oui-- dans le cas general).
Eric.