MTV's Top 100 videos of 1990
UD04...@ndsuvm1.bitnet
in reverse order. Not responsible for typos or errors.
100 Phil Collins
"Hang In Long Enough"
...But Seriously
Atlantic Records [CC]
99 Public Enemy
"911 (Is A Joke)"
Fear Of A Black Planet
Columbia/Def Jam Records
98 Living Colour
"Type (Everything Is Possible)"
Time's Up
Epic Records [CC]
97 Bruce Hornsby & The Range
"Across The River"
A Night On The Town
RCA Records [CC]
97 Sinead O'Connor
"The Emporor's New Clothes"
I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got
Ensign/Chrysalis Records
96 Taylor Dayne
"Ever Beat Of My Heart"
Can't Fight Fate
Arista Records
95 Iggy Pop (Featuring Kate Pierson)
"Candy"
Brick By Brick
Virgin Records
94 Cheap Trick
"Can't Stop Fallin' Into Love"
Busted
Epic Records
93 Johnny Gill
"Rub You The Right Way"
Johnny Gill
Motown Records
(Club MTV Performance)
92 Joan Jett
"Dirty Deeds"
The Hit List
Blackheart/Epic Records
91 Midnight Oil
"Blue Sky Mine"
Blue Sky Mining
Columbia Records
90 ZZ Top
"Double Back"
From the Motion Picture Back To The Future III
Warner Bros. Records/Universal Pictures
89 The Time
"Jerk Out"
Pandemonium
Reprise/Paisley Park Records
88 Robert Plant
"Hurting Kind (I've Got My Eyes On You)"
Manic Nirvana
Es Paranza/Atlantic Records
86 Eric Clapton
"Pretending"
Journeyman
Reprise Records
85 Queensryche
"Empire"
Empire
EMI
84 Nelson
"After The Rain"
After The Rain
DGC Records
83 Lou Gramm
"Just Between You And Me"
Long Hard Look
Atlantic Records
82 Tesla
"Love Song"
The Great Radio Controversy
Geffen Records
81 DNA Featuring Suzanne Vega
"Tom's Diner"
JAM HARDER: A&M Underground Dance Compilation
A&M Records
80 Rolling Stones
"Rock And A Hard Place"
Steel Wheels
Rolling Stones/Columbia Records [CC]
79 Daryl Hall John Oates
"So Close"
Change Of Season
Arista Records
78 Michael Penn
"No Myth"
March
RCA Records
77 D-Mob
"C'Mon Get My Love"
A Little Bit Of This A Little Bit Of That
FBR/PolyGram Records
76 Alias
"More Than Words Can Say"
Alias
EMI
75 Janet Jackson
"Rhythm Nation"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
A&M Records/A&M Home Video [CC]
74 Billy Idol
"L.A. Woman"
Charmed Life
Chrysalis Records
73 Winger
"Can't Get Enuff"
In The Heart Of The Young
Atlantic Records
In The Heart Of The Young
A*Vision Entertainment [CC]
72 Digital Underground
"The Humpty Dance"
Sex Packets
Tommy Boy Records
71 Richard Marx
"Too Late To Say Goodbye"
Repeat Offender
EMI
70 Concrete Blonde
"Joey"
Bloodletting
I.R.S. Records
69 Bad English
"Price Of Love"
Bad English
Epic Records
68 Whitney Houston
"I'm Your Baby Tonight"
I'm Your Baby Tonight
Arista Records
67 The Black Crowes
"Hard To Handle Now"
Shake Your Money Maker
Def American/Geffen Records
66 Maxi Priest
"Close To You"
Bona Fide
Charisma Records
65 Phil Collins
"Do You Remember"
...But Seriously
Atlantic Records
64 Technotronic
"Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)"
Pump Up The Jam
SBK Records
63 Don Henley
"The Heart Of The Matter"
The End Of The Innocence
Geffen Records
62 Paula Abdul
"Knocked Out"
Shut Up An Dance (The Dance Mixes)
Virgin Records
61 M.C. Hammer
"Have You Seen Her"
Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em
Capitol Records
60 Wilson Phillips
"Impulsive"
Wilson Phillips
SBK Records
59 Deee-lite
"Groove Is In The Heart"
World Clique
Elektra Records [CC]
58 Warrant
"Cherry Pie"
Cherry Pie
Columbia Records
57 New Kids On The Block
"Step By Step"
Step By Step
Columbia Records/CMV Home Video
56 Janet Jackson
"Come Back To Me"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
A&M Records [CC]
55 Motley Crue
"Kickstart My Heart"
Dr. Feelgood
Elektra Records
54 UB40
"The Way You Do The Things You Do"
Labour Of Love II
Virgin Records
53 Madonna
"Oh Father"
Like a Prayer
Sire/Warner Bros. Records
52 Billy Joel
"I Go To Extremes"
Storm Front
Columbia Records
51 Heart
"Stranded"
Brigade
Capitol Records
50 Technotronic featuring Felly
"Pump Up The Jam"
SBK Records
49 Damn Yankees
"High Enough"
Damn Yankees
Warner Bros. Records
48 Depeche Mode
"Policy Of Truth"
Violator
Sire Records
47 Kiss
"Forever"
Hot In The Shade
Mercury/PolyGram Records
46 Roxette
"Dangerous"
Look Sharp
From EMI Video Look Sharp Live!
EMI [CC]
45 Tom Petty
"Free Fallin'"
Full Moon Fever
MCA Records
44 Alannah Myles
"Black Velvet"
Alannah Myles
Atlantic Records
43 Janet Jackson
"Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
Janet Jackson - The Rhythm Nation Compilation
A&M Records/A&M Home Video [CC]
42 Winger
"Miles Away"
In The Heart Of The Young
Atlantic Records
In The Heart Of the Young
A*Vision Entertainment [CC]
41 George Michael
"Freedom"
Listen Without Prejudice Volume 1
Columbia Records
40 Warrant
"Sometimes She Cries"
Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
Columbia Records
39 Snap
"The Power"
The Power
Arista Records
38 Wilson Phillips
"Release Me"
Wilson Phillips
SBK Records
37 INXS
"Suicide Blonde"
X
Atlantic Records [CC]
36 Phil Collins
"I Wish It Would Rain Down"
...But Seriously
Atlantic Records
35 Jon Bon Jovi
"Miracle"
Blaze Of Glory/Young Guns II Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Mercury/PolyGram Records/20th Century Fox
34 Bell Biv DeVoe
"Do Me"
Poison
MCA Records
33 Rod Stewart
"Downtown Train"
Storyteller
The Complete Anthology: 1964-1990
Warner Bros. Records
32 Janet Jackson
"Alright"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
A&M Records
31 Motley Crue
"Same Ol' Situation (S.O.S.)"
Dr. Feelgood
Elektra Records [CC]
30 Depeche Mode
"Enjoy The Silence"
Violator
Sire/Reprise Records
29 Glenn Medeiros Featuring Bobby Brown
"She Ain't Worth It"
Glenn Medeiros
Amherst/MCA Records
28 Aerosmith
"The Other Side"
Pump
Geffen Records
27 Jane Child
"Don't Want To Fall In Love"
Jane Child
Warner Bros. Records
26 Heart
"All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You"
Brigade
Capitol Records
25 Poison
"Unskinny Bop"
Flesh & Blood
Enigma Records
Capitol [CC]
24 Phil Collins
"Something Happened On The Way To Heaven"
...But Seriously
Atlantic Records [CC]
23 M.C. Hammer
"Pray (Jam The Hammer Mix)"
Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em
Capitol Records [CC]
22 Roxette
"It Must Have Been Love"
Pretty Woman Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
EMI/Touchstone Pictures
21 Motley Crue
"Without You"
Dr. Feelgood
Elektra Records
20 Bell Biv DeVoe
"Poison"
Poison
MCA Records
19 Aerosmith
"What It Take (the recording of)"
Pump
Geffen Records
18 Janet Jackson
"Black Cat"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
A&M Records [CC]
17 Slaughter
"Fly To The Angels"
Stick It To Ya
Chrysalis Records
16 B-52's
"Roam"
Cosmic Thing
Reprise Records
15 Faith No More
"Epic"
The Real Thing
Slash/Reprise Records
14 Nelson
"Love And Affection"
After The Rain
DGC Records
13 Skid Row
"I Remember You"
Skid Row
Atlantic Records/The Underground Inc.
12 Wilson Phillips
"Hold On"
Wilson Phillips
SBK Records
11 Poison
"Something To Believe In"
Flesh & Blood
Enigma/Capitol Records
10 Motley Crue
"Don't Go Away Mad... (Just Go Away)"
Dr. Feelgood
Elektra Records [CC]
9 Janet Jackson
"Escapade"
Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
A&M Records [CC]
8 Jon Bon Jovi
"Blaze Of Glory"
Blaze Of Glory/Young Guns II Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Mercury/PolyGram Records/20th Century Fox
7 Vanilla Ice
"Ice Ice Baby"
To The Extreme
SBK Records
6 Sinead O'Connor
"Nothing Compares 2 U"
I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got
Ensign/Chrysalis Records
5 Paula Abdul featuring MC Skat Cat
"Opposites Attract"
Forever Your Girl
Virgin Records [CC]
4 Aerosmith
"Janie's Got A Gun"
Pump
Geffen Records
3 Madonna
"Vogue"
I'm Breathless/Music From And Inspired By The Film Dick Tracy
Sire Records
2 Billy Idol
"Cradle Of Love"
Charmed Life
Chrysalis Records
Ford Fairlane Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Elektra Records/20th Century Fox
1 M.C. Hammer
"U Can't Touch This"
Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em
Capitol Records
Acts with multiple hits:
Aerosmith 28 "The Other Side" Pump
Aerosmith 19 "What It Take (the recording of)"
Aerosmith 4 "Janie's Got A Gun"
Bell Biv DeVoe 34 "Do Me" Poison
Bell Biv DeVoe 20 "Poison"
Billy Idol 74 "L.A. Woman" Charmed Life
Billy Idol 2 "Cradle Of Love"
Depeche Mode 48 "Policy Of Truth" Violator
Depeche Mode 30 "Enjoy The Silence"
Heart 51 "Stranded" Brigade
Heart 26 "All I Wanna Do Is Make Love To You"
Janet Jackson 75 "Rhythm Nation" Janet Jackon's Rhythm Nation 1814
Janet Jackson 56 "Come Back To Me"
Janet Jackson 43 "Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
Janet Jackson 32 "Alright"
Janet Jackson 18 "Black Cat"
Janet Jackson 9 "Escapade"
Jon Bon Jovi 35 "Miracle" Blaze Of Glory
Jon Bon Jovi 8 "Blaze Of Glory"
M.C. Hammer 61 "Have You Seen Her" Please Hammer Don't Hurt 'Em
M.C. Hammer 23 "Pray (Jam The Hammer Mix)"
M.C. Hammer 1 "U Can't Touch This"
Madonna 53 "Oh Father" Like a Prayer
Madonna 3 "Vogue" I'm Breathless
Motley Crue 55 "Kickstart My Heart" Dr. Feelgood
Motley Crue 31 "Same Ol' Situation (S.O.S.)"
Motley Crue 21 "Without You"
Motley Crue 10 "Don't Go Away Mad... (Just Go Away)"
Nelson 84 "After The Rain" After The Rain
Nelson 14 "Love And Affection"
Paula Abdul 62 "Knocked Out" Shut Up And Dance
Paula Abdul 5 "Opposites Attract" Forever Your Girl
Phil Collins 100 "Hang In Long Enough" ...But Seriously
Phil Collins 65 "Do You Remember"
Phil Collins 36 "I Wish It Would Rain Down"
Phil Collins 24 "Something Happened On The Way To Heaven"
Poison 25 "Unskinny Bop" Flesh & Blood
Poison 11 "Something To Believe In"
Roxette 46 "Dangerous" Look Sharp
Roxette 22 "It Must Have Been Love" Pretty Woman
Sinead O'Connor 97 "The Emporor's New Clothes"I Do Not Want What I Haven't Got
Sinead O'Connor 6 "Nothing Compares 2 U"
Technotronic 64 "Get Up (Before The Night Is Over)" Pump Up The Jam
Technotronic fe 50 "Pump Up The Jam"
Warrant 58 "Cherry Pie" Cherry Pie
Warrant 40 "Sometimes She Cries" Dirty Rotten Filthy Stinking Rich
Wilson Phillips 60 "Impulsive" Wilson Phillips
Wilson Phillips 38 "Release Me"
Wilson Phillips 12 "Hold On"
Winger 73 "Can't Get Enuff" In The Heart Of The Young
Winger 42 "Miles Away"
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UD04...@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
|Here's the list of video's MTV compiled as the Top 100 of 1990. Listed
|in reverse order. Not responsible for typos or errors.
Why don't they just call it "Top 100 Payoffs by
Independent Promoters" and leave it at that?
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>UD04...@NDSUVM1.BITNET writes:
>|Here's the list of video's MTV compiled as the Top 100 of 1990. Listed
>|in reverse order. Not responsible for typos or errors.
>
> Why don't they just call it "Top 100 Payoffs by
> Independent Promoters" and leave it at that?
>
Actually, this brings up an interesting question: Is the MTV playlist
as open to the influences of payola as are those of radio stations?
Since the importance of MTV to the music business is so much greater,
it would seem that the people who program it would be under much
greater scrutiny...and might not be as able to succomb to the almighty
bribe.
Which is not to say that there isn't a lot of quid pro quo involved.
All those weekends focusing on Madonna, ZZTop, etc. are, I'm sure, based
as much on the willingness of the artist to work with and promote the
channel as they are on demographics or popularity.
By the way, anyone who has any interest or faith in the music charts
should read the recent best-seller "Hit Men".
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videos of 1990:
99 Public Enemy
"911 (Is A Joke)"
OK, but I've seen much better from PE. This one made it onto NBC's
Friday Night Videos, which means they considered it "safe" for their
young viewers.
97 Sinead O'Connor
"The Emperor's New Clothes"
A tune far superior to "Nothing Compares 2 U", lyrically and
musically, although Sinead's still yet to realize her full potential.
Who the fuck taught her how to dance? Girl looks like she's being
electrocuted.
94 Cheap Trick
"Can't Stop Fallin' Into Love"
I hate Cheap Trick. Get 'em out of here.
91 Midnight Oil
"Blue Sky Mine"
Politico-rock from Down Under. I like these guys.
90 ZZ Top
"Double Back"
These guys know how to laugh at themselves, which is what saves them.
Still, I'd like to see them hire Paula Abdul again, be interesting to
see what happens.
89 The Time
"Jerk Out"
Superb.
86 Eric Clapton
"Pretending"
The man's got integrity. One of the artists I cite when I'm arguing
with people that "old" doesn't necessarily mean "tired".
81 DNA Featuring Suzanne Vega
"Tom's Diner"
Interesting not only for the music itself, but the story behind it.
Good beat, I can see why SV wasn't so pissed about it.
79 Daryl Hall John Oates
"So Close"
Oh, God. Get 'em the fuck out of here.
75 Janet Jackson
"Rhythm Nation"
32 Janet Jackson
"Alright"
By now, y'all know that I love Janet. "Alright" was captivating in
its 40s-ish zoot-suit-and-jive paean to Cab Calloway; I always wonder
how the young brothers and sisters of today relate to this kind of
stuff. Rhythm Nation made so much sense when it was released in fall
'89; in George Bush's America of 1991, it's a sad reminder of what
might have happened.
68 Whitney Houston
"I'm Your Baby Tonight"
Whitney's getting funkier. This ought to get interesting.
39 Snap
"The Power"
A taut video behind an awesome tune. This cut is a landmark in rap;
check out the version by Power Jam with Chill Rob G, too, just to be
complete.
38 Wilson Phillips
"Release Me"
This is their best single release to date. Their videos are
interesting mostly for the ways they try to avoid showing Carnie
Wilson's profile.
36 Phil Collins
"I Wish It Would Rain Down"
The song is kind of the typical PC pablum, but the video had a neat
little twist to it. Liked the Eric Clapton role.
30 Depeche Mode
"Enjoy The Silence"
The video is what I found most insipid about this tune.
20 Bell Biv DeVoe
"Poison"
This video was hacked together with a machete.
16 B-52's
"Roam"
These people are so fucking camp they make me sick. See Deee-Lite (I
spelled it right this time).
15 Faith No More
"Epic"
These guys are as ugly to watch as they are to listen to, and that is
why this tune is so fantastic. Proof that metal and rap can produce
offspring.
12 Wilson Phillips
"Hold On"
Where the fuck is En Vogue's "Hold On"? Much better video than this
one.
11 Poison
"Something To Believe In"
Piercing. I wouldn't usually listen to Poison, but these guys sing
with heart on issues they obviously harbor strong feelings about.
After the greed decade, it's cheering to see more sensible minds
finding their voice.
7 Vanilla Ice
"Ice Ice Baby"
I still wonder about this guy. Is he a phony or what? What do you
think of him now, Jones? Still, it's not pleasing to see rap becoming
palatable to the masses only in a white package.
6 Sinead O'Connor
"Nothing Compares 2 U"
Not a good tune, NOT a good video.
5 Paula Abdul featuring MC Skat Cat
"Opposites Attract"
Yeah, yeah. High tech video, neat animation. Whoopity-fuck.
2 Billy Idol
"Cradle Of Love"
1 M.C. Hammer
"U Can't Touch This"
Interesting... The top two videos are actually more or less deserving
of the honor. "Cradle of Love" is a jamming tune - rock'n'roll done
right really does persist - married to a video that tells a
well-defined and executed story. The video is quick cut at just the
right frequency, the babe is hot, it all works. A+
"U Can't Touch This" is not an outstanding video, but it is good and
solid, and more down-to-earth than a lot of stuff you see. I
particularly like seeing those kids dancing all over the rooftops and
fire escapes; it gives you the notion that urban life is not all crack
and crime and violence. I also like how Hammer's success really
pisses off the people in this newsgroup who find political
correctitude in hating anyone who becomes popular.
Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
Lazlo Nibble
> I also like how Hammer's success really pisses off the people in this
> newsgroup who find political correctitude in hating anyone who becomes
> popular.
I don't "hate anyone who becomes popular", I just have a problem with
artists who can't break a tune without riding on the back of looped
samples of songs that were already hit singles. "U Can't Touch This",
"Pray", "Ice Ice Baby", and (natch) "Play That Funky Music (White Boy)"
are all fun to listen to but as much as I enjoy them I'm going to have
to hear some some non-copped riffs out of Hammer and Vanilla Ice before
I respect anything more than their ability to pick the right people to
swipe from.
There's a really broad difference between what Hammer is doing with his
sampler and what Public Enemy are doing with theirs.
Lazlo (la...@triton.unm.edu)
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Lazlo Nibble
>| Here's the list of video's MTV compiled as the Top 100 of 1990. Listed
>| in reverse order. Not responsible for typos or errors.
>
> Why don't they just call it "Top 100 Payoffs by
> Independent Promoters" and leave it at that?
Because that would skew the order. They'd have to pay a lot more to get
"Cheery Pie" played than they would to get "Vogue" -- even MTV has SOME
taste.
Ray Shea
> Here's the list of video's MTV compiled as the Top 100 of 1990.
From the looks of things, MTV only had about a hundred videos in rotation
*at all* in 1990. I can't think of a video I've seen this year that
isn't in this list.
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>
>Actually, this brings up an interesting question: Is the MTV playlist
>as open to the influences of payola as are those of radio stations?
>
>All those weekends focusing on Madonna, ZZTop, etc. are, I'm sure, based
>as much on the willingness of the artist to work with and promote the
>channel as they are on demographics or popularity.
>
Hmmmm....well, there is one non-payola-related reason for those
"superstar weekends". With the expense of video production rising,
only established stars can afford to create a sufficient body of
videos to warrant their own "weekend". When someone like Jane's
Addiction can afford to release 20 or so videos, they might get
a "weekend" to themselves. It probably takes about 4 albums' worth
of material to produce 10-12 quality videos. Of course, not everyone
waits for quality material........
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available on MuchMusic here in Canada :
* Fearless - The Neville Brothers (A&M)
* She Ain't Pretty - The Northern Pikes (A&M)
* Dangerous Times - Sue Medley (POL)
* I Am A Wild Party - Kim Mitchell (CAP)
* Just Came Back - Colin James (Virgin / A&M)
Well, Jim, there's just a few things to say here :
In article <55...@mit-caf.MIT.EDU> vl...@caf.mit.edu (Jim Vlcek) writes:
>
>79 Daryl Hall John Oates
> "So Close"
>
>Oh, God. Get 'em the fuck out of here.
Look, while the video alone may not be impressive and heck, even the
song is not overly impressive, they've at least realized how music
should *really* be done : acoustically and unplugged.
Just recently (within the past month), Hall & Oates dropped the MuchMusic
"environment" and played "unplugged" live for 30 to 45 minutes.
And that was just one of two separate interviews at Much (the other was
for a program called _Soul in the City_ with Mike Williams).
Definitely one of the highlights of the year.
>12 Wilson Phillips
> "Hold On"
>
>Where the fuck is En Vogue's "Hold On"? Much better video than this
>one.
Personally, I disagree; "Hold On" by Wilson Phillips was more of an impact
song than "Release Me" - the latter being more of the trio's harmony.
In terms of the video, Wilson Phillips' shellacks En Vogue's "Hold On"
by a parsec. HOWEVER, the last two by En Vogue (one of which called "Lies")
were very interesting to watch.
>
>11 Poison
> "Something To Believe In"
>
>Piercing. I wouldn't usually listen to Poison, but these guys sing
>with heart on issues they obviously harbor strong feelings about.
>After the greed decade, it's cheering to see more sensible minds
>finding their voice.
>
Hmmm ... I'd have to say that it definitely belongs as one of
the selections for Fromage '90. While the sentiment may be
pertinent, it still mayn't be done for the right reason.
>
>6 Sinead O'Connor
> "Nothing Compares 2 U"
>
>Not a good tune, NOT a good video.
Interpretation of a song - this issue has been hashed before.
I think her interpretation has really gone a long way for her career.
I don't think anyone can dispute that, regardless of how many despise
her or how many are disappointed with this album (with respect to
a MUCH BETTER "The Lion and the Cobra"). And just to add a final
note to "interpretation", how about k.d. lang's & Roy Orbison duo
in Orbison's "Crying"? Chills, everytime, including her solo at
that big concert where Orbison was honoured.
At any rate, the "N C 2 U" video alone is nothing really spectacular.
Perhaps it was just the song alone that boosted the video so far.
>
>5 Paula Abdul featuring MC Skat Cat
> "Opposites Attract"
>
>Yeah, yeah. High tech video, neat animation. Whoopity-fuck.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't she look absolutely cute! ;-)
>
>2 Billy Idol
> "Cradle Of Love"
>1 M.C. Hammer
> "U Can't Touch This"
>
>Interesting... The top two videos are actually more or less deserving
>of the honor. "Cradle of Love" is a jamming tune - rock'n'roll done
>right really does persist - married to a video that tells a
>well-defined and executed story. The video is quick cut at just the
>right frequency, the babe is hot, it all works. A+
>
There are much better rock tunes out there. And you certainly don't
need videos to "help it along" either ... However, I mention the
Pikes' tune "She Ain't Pretty" above - that is one of the exceptions, IMHO.
>"U Can't Touch This" is not an outstanding video, but it is good and
>solid, and more down-to-earth than a lot of stuff you see. I
>particularly like seeing those kids dancing all over the rooftops and
>fire escapes; it gives you the notion that urban life is not all crack
>and crime and violence. I also like how Hammer's success really
>pisses off the people in this newsgroup who find political
>correctitude in hating anyone who becomes popular.
>
While many will actively despise Hammer, the man can certainly dance up
a storm. By his statements when he visited Much, he said that he
was an "entertainer" and that he only wanted to be known as such.
Albeit a certain "misled honesty", he certainly takes something
from somebody else and bangs us over the head, don't it? I would be
curious to know just how much time and money he dedicates from his
earnings to helping his community back in Oakland, CA.
>Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
Regards,
Henry Lee <l...@physics.ubc.ca>
Sh'r'ldana
> Hmmmm....well, there is one non-payola-related reason for those "superstar
> weekends". With the expense of video production rising, only established
> stars can afford to create a sufficient body of videos to warrant their own
> "weekend". When someone like Jane's Addiction can afford to release 20 or so
> videos, they might get a "weekend" to themselves. It probably takes about 4
> albums' worth of material to produce 10-12 quality videos. Of course, not
> everyone waits for quality material........
>
Like Rush, Phil Collins, Pink Floyd, etc. These are some of the most well
known rock legends, and they don't get their own weekends. Must be the
money.....
Sh'r'l
Jim Vlcek
``I also like how Hammer's success really pisses off the people in this
newsgroup who find political correctitude in hating anyone who becomes
popular.''
Lazlo Nibble replies:
``I just have a problem with artists who can't break a tune without
riding on the back of looped samples of songs that were already hit
singles ... much as I enjoy them I'm going to have to hear some some
non-copped riffs out of Hammer and Vanilla Ice before I respect
anything more than their ability to pick the right people to swipe
from.''
*Yawn* Maybe I shoulda said:
``I also like how Hammer's success really pisses off the people in
this newsgroup who impress themselves by hating anyone who doesn't
write their own tunes.''
Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
Jim Vlcek
about music. Let's see what he's got to say here about my notes
on the MTV Top 100 Videos:
``"Hold On" by Wilson Phillips was more of an impact song than
"Release Me" - the latter being more of the trio's harmony.''
Yeah, maybe it was more of an "impact" song, but "Release Me" is
definitely the better cut. It's better lyrically, and would be an
excellent cut for a cover by another artist later on. I could see
"Release Me" done by a lone singer with a strong voice; it could be a
really powerful tune - an "impact" song. You'll never hear WP's "Hold
On" again.
``In terms of the video, Wilson Phillips' shellacks En Vogue's "Hold
On" by a parsec.''
Oh, man, you're on drugs. The video for WP's "Hold On" was a mess: a
jumble of mountaintops and beaches and avenues, etc, etc. En Vogue's
"Hold On" was sexy and funky, consistent throughout. Musically, WP
are probably more skilled than En Vogue, but when it comes to a video,
En Vogue's purring and prancing are going to beat Wilson Phillips'
yodeling any time.
``HOWEVER, the last two by En Vogue (one of which called "Lies") were
very interesting to watch.''
There's hope for you yet. To an extent, I think that videos are
acting as advertisements for the various races and ethnicities in
America: each presenting a representative "look" that they hold up as
beautiful, or - more important - attractive/sexy/etc. In that sense,
it seems to me that African Americans are kicking ass on us StiffWhite
[tm] types: Wilson Phillips look like icicles next to En Vogue,
although I don't guess I'd kick Chynna or Wendy out of bed for eating
crackers, either.
``I'd have to say that [Poison's "Something To Believe In"] definitely
belongs as one of the selections for Fromage '90. While the
sentiment may be pertinent, it still mayn't be done for the right
reason.''
Yeah, I can allow that as just a difference in opinion. I like it
quite a bit myself. One must remember that metal is really working
class music; I suspect a lot of the snot-nosed rich kid college types
like metal so long as it concentrates on raising testosterone levels
... once it starts pointing out that one of these days the working
stiffs are gonna start gettin' their due, the college kids will
recognize it for the threat that it is. Thus, the poor reception this
tune has received in this forum. (Don't take this as a flame against
you, Henry, I'm just engaging in general polemics.)
``Yeah, yeah, yeah, but don't [Paula Abdul, in "Opposites Attract"]
look absolutely cute! ;-)''
Indeed, but Janet's just as cute, and a lot sweeter. Janet's got
genuine talent, too.
Speaking of Janet, KISS108 here in Boston had a call-in poll one time
a while ago, asking the listeners whether she had a "big ole butt" or
not. The response was an overwhelming "yes", as I recall. She
frequently wears black to make herself look slimmer. Nonetheless, she
still managed to put forth a rather stripped-down image in the "Love
will never do without you" video. Is she gonna keep her metabolism
under control, or is she gonna end up a Weathergirl someday?
Enquiring minds want to know.
``There are much better rock tunes [than Billy Idol's "Cradle Of
Love"] out there. And you certainly don't need videos to "help it
along" either ...''
Yeah, but don't forget, we're talking about the top 100 videos, not
just tunes. "Cradle of Love" was an excellent package of sight and
sound. It's the rock equivalent of a late '60s American-built car:
solid and fucking durable as hell. Looking at the stuff coming out in
the late '80s/early '90s, I'd have been tempted to say "Rock is dead",
but this one number shows it don't have to be so.
``While many will actively despise Hammer, the man can certainly dance
up a storm. By his statements when he visited Much, he said that he
was an "entertainer" and that he only wanted to be known as such.''
That about sums it up.
``I would be curious to know just how much time and money he dedicates
from his earnings to helping his community back in Oakland, CA.''
This is a question I think we should be asking all of the rich people
in America: what the fuck are YOU doing for your community. I think
most of 'em don't feel they owe shit to their community. Also, is it
only the minorities that we expect should help their communities once
they make it big? Seems like they're the only ones we ever ask these
kind of questions of.
Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
Henry Lee
>about music. Let's see what he's got to say here about my notes
>on the MTV Top 100 Videos:
"Dammit, Jim, I'm not a musician!" :-)
I am *not* musically trained by any means, save for a few years
in the church choir.
However, it seems (and might I emphasize "seems") that we
simply have a difference in opinion. I still hold that
WP's "Hold On" is a better song & video and I will let it go at that.
I fully respect and understand your reasoning, however,
even if I'm on drugs. :-)
>
>Indeed, but Janet's just as cute, and a lot sweeter. Janet's got
>genuine talent, too.
>
Having watched her interviews with Mike Williams in Toronto this
past year and T.D.M. in Vancouver, she was a little shy, quite
soft-spoken, and certainly driving the point of R.N.'s theme,
amidst critics and their shtick.
>
>``While many will actively despise Hammer, the man can certainly dance
> up a storm. By his statements when he visited Much, he said that he
> was an "entertainer" and that he only wanted to be known as such.''
>
>That about sums it up.
>
>``I would be curious to know just how much time and money he dedicates
> from his earnings to helping his community back in Oakland, CA.''
>
>This is a question I think we should be asking all of the rich people
>in America: what the fuck are YOU doing for your community. I think
>most of 'em don't feel they owe shit to their community. Also, is it
>only the minorities that we expect should help their communities once
>they make it big? Seems like they're the only ones we ever ask these
>kind of questions of.
>
But then again, Jim, one can turn around and find those of the "majority"
who do help their community. It's probably more low key, however.
Henry Lee <l...@physics.ubc.ca>
Lazlo Nibble
> *Yawn* Maybe I shoulda said:
>
> ``I also like how Hammer's success really pisses off the people in
> this newsgroup who impress themselves by hating anyone who doesn't
> write their own tunes.''
Find someone else to pick your nose at, Jim. I said right up-front
that I like the songs, I just don't have much respect for artists
who are unable to do anything BUT ride on the backs of other peoples'
work. Hammer had two really big singles last year but both of them
relied completely on someone else's riff. You like Hammer, that's
great, so do I. I'm just not particularly impressed with his ability
to do anything but dance and pick good stuff to sample.
Lazlo (la...@triton.unm.edu)
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Jim Vlcek
``"Dammit, Jim, I'm not a musician!" :-) ... I am *not* musically
trained by any means ...''
Yo, Henry, you ain't gotta be a musician to critique music. Hell,
look at me.
``However, it seems (and might I emphasize "seems") that we simply
have a difference in opinion. I still hold that WP's "Hold On" is
a better song & video [than En Vogue's "Hold On"] and I will let it
go at that.''
No good, man. You've never said why.
See, that's the part that's most interesting. That's why these little
turds that are always writing in nonsense like "Rap isn't music" or
the like are so stupid: they can't make a reasonable argument WHY rap
sucks or rap isn't music (not that a reasonable one _can_ be made, but
it _is_ fun to see people try).
I think it's OK to slam an artist or an entire genre if you can at
least be creative and innovative about it, and maybe show a little
insight into it. Like, say, Jones and his StiffWhite [tm] jibes.
Even if you're not slamming something, hell, be opinionated, and don't
be afraid to say why. It's a hell of a lot more interesting to see
people post some at-least-half-baked theories about why Madonna is so
popular than it is to see someone post "Madonna is a slut and a
whore".
Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
Michael Wertheim
> "The Power"
>A taut video behind an awesome tune. This cut is a landmark in rap;
>check out the version by Power Jam with Chill Rob G, too, just to be
>complete.
Snap are bunch of homophobic assholes. And this song is far from being a
landmark in anything.
>38 Wilson Phillips
> "Release Me"
>This is their best single release to date. Their videos are interesting
>mostly for the ways they try to avoid showing Carnie Wilson's profile.
I wonder how Carnie Wilson reacted during the shooting of the video. It
would be interesting to see a documentary of "The Making of 'Release Me'".
>75 Janet Jackson
> "Rhythm Nation"
>32 Janet Jackson
> "Alright"
>By now, y'all know that I love Janet.
Sorry, I forgot to enter that fact into my database of opinions of people who
post to rec.music.misc.
>68 Whitney Houston
> "I'm Your Baby Tonight"
>Whitney's getting funkier. This ought to get interesting.
Fascinating, to say the least.
Mike Wertheim
m...@sybase.com
Gangster
>vl...@caf.mit.edu (Jim Vlcek) writes:
>You like Hammer, that's great, so do I. I'm just not particularly impressed
>with his ability to do anything but dance and pick good stuff to sample.
Then you are not at all familiar with Hammer's first album. People seem to
forget that MC Hammer is not a new artist, and his first album was a very
good rap album from a musical standpoint. And I don't remember much stuff
sampled from that album. It's not fair to make a sweeping generalization
based on one album, especially without looking at the whole picture...
--
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Lazlo Nibble
>> You like Hammer, that's great, so do I. I'm just not particularly impressed
>> with his ability to do anything but dance and pick good stuff to sample.
>
> Then you are not at all familiar with Hammer's first album.
As a matter of fact I *am* familiar with the first album. "Turn This
Mutha Out" is one of my favorite tracks and I own the 12" for "Let's
Get It Started", but his raps were weak even back then. Things didn't
improve with PLEASE HAMMER . . . like I said, he's fun to dance to,
but that's about it. IMHO.
Lazlo (la...@triton.unm.edu)
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A thick and soupy sludge emerged from her sternum with tired irony.
Ron Buckmire
>In article <55...@mit-caf.MIT.EDU> vl...@caf.mit.edu (Jim Vlcek) writes:
>>39 Snap
>> "The Power"
>>A taut video behind an awesome tune. This cut is a landmark in rap;
>>check out the version by Power Jam with Chill Rob G, too, just to be
>>complete.
>Snap are bunch of homophobic assholes. And this song is far from being a
>landmark in anything.
True, they are, BUT the song is quite good. It is also ABSOLUTELY STOLEN from
Chill Rob G. I am NOT talking about a sample here, it is almost the same, note
for note and NO CREDIT was ever given to Chill Rob G.
>>38 Wilson Phillips
>> "Release Me"
>I wonder how Carnie Wilson reacted during the shooting of the video. It
>would be interesting to see a documentary of "The Making of 'Release Me'".
it would be amusing, wouldn't it? :-)
>>68 Whitney Houston
>> "I'm Your Baby Tonight"
>>Whitney's getting funkier. This ought to get interesting.
Is that her "girl friday" Robyn in the video in that Whitney casually touches by
the hand when she is wearig that rather mannish Marlene Dietrich white suit?
>Fascinating, to say the least.
Ummmm, hmm!
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Ron Buckmire
>Here's the list of video's MTV compiled as the Top 100 of 1990. Listed
>in reverse order. Not responsible for typos or errors.
>97 Sinead O'Connor
> "The Emporor's New Clothes"
An INCREDIBLY bad choice for followup to "NC2U". "I Am Stretched On Your Grave"
wuold have continued the momentum, *this* video just made the mainstream now looking at Sinead think,"Gosh, she really *is* weird, isn't she?"
>95 Iggy Pop (Featuring Kate Pierson)
> "Candy"
Why does iggy Pop insist on having his naked torso prominently in all of his recent videos? Kate Pierson was great! Why don't she and the other female member
of the B-52's ditch Fred and release a "solo" effort?
>89 The Time
> "Jerk Out"
Pretty good.
>77 D-Mob
> "C'Mon Get My Love"
Cathy Denis is pretty amazing.How is the solo album?
>75 Janet Jackson
> "Rhythm Nation"
The BEST choreographed video of the year, by far. The dancing is interesting
and of course, the social message. I wish they had added a little bit more to the remixed end.
>59 Deee-lite
> "Groove Is In The Heart"
Incredible! So campy it is an INSTANT cult-classic.
>58 Warrant
> "Cherry Pie"
Jack Thonpson thinks JUSTIFY MY LOVE is obscene? The degradation to women and
portrayal of them as sex objexts in this video I find TRULY obscene!
>53 Madonna
> "Oh Father"
Well, an interesting video, for a non-commercial song. If she had released "Till
Death Do Us Part" she'd be well on her way to approaching Elvis' record of 28
consecutive Top5 singles. A David Finche4, so it *must* be exceptional.
>48 Depeche Mode
> "Policy Of Truth"
What is this video/song about? A friend of mine says it's about "closets". Especially with all those "dykes in leather" running around :-)
>43 Janet Jackson
> "Love Will Never Do (Without You)"
Oh my god! A GORGEOUS video. Those guys! Those eyes! That cleavage! Is this
similar to "Express Yourself" in that Janet can be on NIGHTLINE and say "I was
in control! I bent over to expose my breasts to the light so the camera could
show more of them." Oh, dear! What IS that guy's name who is holding her? And
the guy in the white bathing suit diving with the humongous pecs? Yumm yumm!
Sorry, but this video always reduces me to monosyballic bliss: ooh, ahh, yum!
>41 George Michael
> "Freedom"
I think US magazine lists this as the worst music video of the year? It isn't
that, but I do think it was a bit silly for George to decide not to appear in
his videos to say he's letting the music stand on it's own and then do
interviews all over the place. And the male models aren't hardly shown at all.
Harrumph.
>32 Janet Jackson
> "Alright"
$1.8 million for this? And it ended up being the lowest charting single for the
album: amusing.
>18 Janet Jackson
> "Black Cat"
Now this is a good video. Wayne Isham really knows how to cut 'em.
>16 B-52's
> "Roam"
This video is silly, but that isthe point! What is wring with camp??
>15 Faith No More
> "Epic"
Absolutely brilliant, especially the piano at the end.
>13 Skid Row
> "I Remember You"
"hated it!" [Skid Row, or atleast Sebastian Bac] are homophobic ***holes.]
>6 Sinead O'Connor
> "Nothing Compares 2 U"
I really don't see how people can NOT be affected by this song or atleast claim
that it is a *bad* song, but then some people listen to country music! [No
flames, I'm just saying "Chacun a son gout".]
>5 Paula Abdul featuring MC Skat Cat
> "Opposites Attract"
Definitely in the TOO cute category.
>4 Aerosmith
> "Janie's Got A Gun"
Brilliant. Iwonder how much it cost? David Fincher creates an absolutely
enthralling mini-movie in 5 minutes which fits the song perfectly. But he also
does the near-impossible, he succeeds in not making Steve Tyler look too
hideous, I guess that is why he is directing _Alien 3_. I wonder if he will
still direct music videos? Maybe if Madonna asks very nicely?
>3 Madonna
> "Vogue"
Another david fincher. It is hard to decide which of these two videos is the
best. I guess I'd give it to Aerosmith, but only because the video is great
with so little to work with. I mean, with Madonna's "vogue' you already had a
great video presence and song to start with anyway. A bad video would have been
difficult. A great video WAS made, with a little luck.
>2 Billy Idol
> "Cradle Of Love"
I really don't understand why this video was so popular, even if it WAS directed
by David Fincher. It features bit of the movie by a homophobic ***hole [Andrew
Dice Clay] and the song is very catchy, but *still*! Second best video of the year? No!
>1 M.C. Hammer
> "U Can't Touch This"
ok, it *is* a good video. But the BEST one of the year? No!
Richard Barry Shrum
Hell, who said they were scared of 'em?? ;^}
Rick
IS1 Student
>although I don't guess I'd kick Chynna or Wendy out of bed for eating
>crackers, either.
Which one is which? I presume neither of them is the "ugly fat bitch"...
Geoff
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Jim Vlcek
>>crackers, either.
Geoff Eddy:
>Which one is which? I presume neither of them is the "ugly fat bitch"...
I don't know of AN "ugly fat bitch", much less THE "ugly fat bitch".
Grow up, child.
Jim Vlcek (vl...@caf.mit.edu vl...@athena.mit.edu)
R o d Johnson
>[about Wilson Philips]:
>Which one is which? I presume neither of them is the "ugly fat bitch"...
Well, "fuck you".
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Ray Shea
> >95 Iggy Pop (Featuring Kate Pierson)
> > "Candy"
> Why does iggy Pop insist on having his naked torso prominently in all of his recent videos?
Because he's the only rock star over forty who doesn't look like complete
shit naked from the waist up. (Well, OK, Mick Jagger too, if you put
a bag over his head.) If you got it...