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Mouthpieces for Rotary Trumpets

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Gordon Hudson

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Jul 28, 2004, 1:32:15 PM7/28/04
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Hello
Does anyone have any fuidance for the best sort of mouthpiece to use on a
rotary valve trumpet?

What shape of cup and backbore are players in Germany and Austria using?

Thanks

Gordon


rjim...@ameritech.net

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Jul 28, 2004, 11:50:15 PM7/28/04
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Gordon,
Many players use German or Austrian mouthpieces for rotary. Klier and
Breslmair are the most popular. In my experience, the rims seem
somewhat narrow (compared to what I grew up with in the States), the
bore is slightly larger. The are available from several dealers in the
US, but at about double the price you would pay in Europe.
YMMV,
Ron Jimison

Brendon Terry

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Jul 29, 2004, 1:18:52 AM7/29/04
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The store I work for in Toronto is a dealer for Josef Klier, and we sell
them for about the same price as a Bach , maybe a few bucks more.

Contact me off-list if you are interested:

bterry (at) long-mcquade.com


Cheers,

Brendon

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Gordon Hudson

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Jul 29, 2004, 7:49:39 AM7/29/04
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"Brendon Terry" <bjt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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> The store I work for in Toronto is a dealer for Josef Klier, and we sell
> them for about the same price as a Bach , maybe a few bucks more.
>
> Contact me off-list if you are interested:
>
> bterry (at) long-mcquade.com

Thanks for the info.
I have a new rotary arriving in a week or so and I might be in touch.
I was aware the throats tended to be wider, but I have seen some that are
more V shaped as well.

Gordon


Harald Masche

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Jul 29, 2004, 8:16:17 PM7/29/04
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Gordon Hudson schrieb:

Hello Gordon,

here in germany we don´t use different mouthpieces for rotary valves.
Most players use a normal Bach 1C - 3C.
I have a Getzen Eterna and a Rotary ( Windisch ) and use the same mp for
both of them.
I don´t know a single trumpet player here who changes the mp when he
switchen von rotary to perinet valves...

greetings from germany

harald

Jason Jensen

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Jul 29, 2004, 8:33:54 PM7/29/04
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"Gordon Hudson" <gor...@usenet.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4108e451$0$58823$5a6a...@news.aaisp.net.uk>...

The backbores tend to be much more open as well.

Jason

Ederlezi

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Aug 1, 2004, 12:37:23 PM8/1/04
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According to 'Rotary Trumpet Book' by Daniel Graham (he sells it on
ebay), Austrians use Lechner rotary trumpets and Breslmair mp. He quotes
musician visiting Lechner factory where they told him if you show up for
an audition with Vienna Philharmonic and you don't have Breslmair G1,
you might as well forget it.

That quote is several years old and may not be current.
I have been practicing on Breslmair G1 for about 6 months, but I am just
a beginner/hobbyist so I won't tire you too much with my (lack of)
experience. I started learning to play about a year ago on a rotary Bb,
which is unusual for my geography, but my trumpet teacher doesn't mind,
so I am sticking with it.

Lead pipe for rotaries is much shorter than piston so it may be the main
reason for using mp of different construction than piston trumpets (to
produce best sound possible).

I have noticed something interesting in 'fluid dynamics' when rinsing
moupthpieces in the sink. When I hold mp with rim down, but on a 45 deg
angle and let water run throug it, I observe that all my other mp's
(bach, schilke, getzen, all of different sizes) have water shoot out in
a well defined spaghetti looking stream. When I place G1 in same
position and run water through it, the water breaks up as it leaves the
rim (no spaghetti stream) . It is indication of big difference in
cup/backbore construction between piston mp's and rotary G1 mp.

Gordon, could you share which rotary trumpet you're getting?
I thought about getting one more rotary, but euro/dollar exchange rate
these days is making me hesitate.

Good luck,

Sveta

Gordon Hudson

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Aug 1, 2004, 1:41:31 PM8/1/04
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"Harald Masche" <harald...@emstal-balhorn.de> wrote in message
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Very interesting!
I played rotary about 15 years ago for a while and used the same Bach 1 that
I used
on my piston valve instrument.
I will need to experiment when it arrives (next week).

Gordon


Gordon Hudson

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Aug 1, 2004, 1:44:42 PM8/1/04
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"Ederlezi" <svet...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Gordon, could you share which rotary trumpet you're getting?
> I thought about getting one more rotary, but euro/dollar exchange rate
> these days is making me hesitate.

Johann Scherzer 8218 in silver plate
http://www.scherzer-trumpets.com/Bb-Trumpets.htm

I am in the UK and its very easy to import them.
The local dealer here wanted Ł1800 for the most basic Scherzer.
I am paying about Ł1300 for the better model including the VAT (which I have
paid in Germany as part of the price)
so there should only be asmall import duty to pay (and I may get away with
none).

Gordon

Brendon Terry

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Aug 4, 2004, 8:45:40 AM8/4/04
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> Johann Scherzer 8218 in silver plate
> http://www.scherzer-trumpets.com/Bb-Trumpets.htm
>
> I am in the UK and its very easy to import them.
> The local dealer here wanted Ł1800 for the most basic Scherzer.
> I am paying about Ł1300 for the better model including the VAT (which I
have
> paid in Germany as part of the price)
> so there should only be asmall import duty to pay (and I may get away
with
> none).

My store in Canada sells the 8218 for 1230GBP (sorry I don't know where to
find a pound sign on my keyboard), or $2235US.

Brendon


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