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Eb Tuba - what music does it read?

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Tom Ciaramitaro

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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If a fellow had an Eb tuba, how would he transpose music written for a
trumpet on the treble clef, or a trombone on the bass clef??
Thanks,
=Tom


Stanton

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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Ahhhh....Tuba!

I always chuckle when I think about the way that the tuba handles
differnet keys. The interesting thing is, that unlike the trumpet, Tuba
music is always (I believe and am willing to stand corrected by those
more knowledgeable) written in concert pitch. With tuba, you change the
FINGERINGS instead of transposing. I guess it's a whole different
mindset. All I know is that when I play Bb tuba, I end up transposing
because I don't have the mindset of different fingerings. Maybe that's
what I should practice... Maybe THAT would make my trumpet
transpositions easier!

Ciao,
SK

Bas Arts

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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Stanton <sta...@wwa.com> writes:
> The interesting thing is, that unlike the trumpet, Tuba
> music is always (I believe and am willing to stand corrected by those
> more knowledgeable) written in concert pitch.

Well, in windbands Tuba music is written in the pitch of the Tuba; hence no
need to transpose/change fingersettings there.

In symphonic orchestras etc., music will be written in concert pitch. Well,
just buy a C-Tuba then :-)

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Ed

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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The popularity of Eb tubas is due to the fact that a trumpet player can read
the bass clef as though he was playing a trumpet in treble clef with the
addition of 3 sharps (or deletion of 3 flats).

Reading trumpet scores with an Eb instrument requires transposing down a 4th &
adding 1 sharp - the key of C becomes the key of G.

Ed

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On Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:02:36 -0800 Tom Ciaramitaro <tomc...@earthlink.net> mentioned something about ...
:) If a fellow had an Eb tuba, how would he transpose music written for a
:) trumpet on the treble clef, or a trombone on the bass clef??

We do it the same way Horn players do it. We transpose the parts on the fly
when reading non C parts. When playing on the different pitched tubas such
as F, Eb, BBb, and CC, we learn to read in C with the different fingerings
depending on the different instrument.

There are some parts for tuba from brass band music which is in Bb, and some of
Strauss's euphonium parts are in Bb. There are usually transcribed parts in C though
for us to use instead.

Transposing is a skill which is essential if the tubist wants to play
the literature of other instruments easily, such as Horn in F and Trumpet
in Bb.

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Padraic Brown

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Feb 3, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/3/99
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Ed (e...@xxxqualcomm.com) wrote:
: The popularity of Eb tubas is due to the fact that a trumpet player can read
: the bass clef as though he was playing a trumpet in treble clef with the
: addition of 3 sharps (or deletion of 3 flats).

I did the same sort of things when I played Bb tuba parts on (of all things) an
Eb contra alto clarinet (oh, the crazy days of college!).

: Reading trumpet scores with an Eb instrument requires transposing down a 4th &

: adding 1 sharp - the key of C becomes the key of G.

: Ed

: >
: >If a fellow had an Eb tuba, how would he transpose music written for a
: >trumpet on the treble clef, or a trombone on the bass clef??

If the tubist in question can do treble clef, the t-bone part can be played in
like manner to how I played the tuba parts above, using the same Bb to Eb
transposition technique.

Padraic Brown.

: >Thanks,
: >=Tom
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Howard Peirce

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Feb 5, 1999, 3:00:00 AM2/5/99
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Bas Arts wrote:

> Stanton <sta...@wwa.com> writes:
> > The interesting thing is, that unlike the trumpet, Tuba
> > music is always (I believe and am willing to stand corrected by those
> > more knowledgeable) written in concert pitch.
>
> Well, in windbands Tuba music is written in the pitch of the Tuba; hence no
> need to transpose/change fingersettings there.

Only in Europe, AFAIK. In American (and Canadian? Japanese?) band music, tuba
parts are almost always bass clef, concert pitch (at least after around 1920).
When I played British brass band music (and did some composing/arranging), I
always thought it interesting that there were parts for both BBb and Eb tuba,
written treble clef/transposed, and they were often scored differently (i.e in
octaves, or sometimes 6ths, 10ths etc.).

HP

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