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JFDonaldsn

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Nov 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/20/99
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Learned friends,

A couple of years ago, at the request of a parent of a student of mine for some
trumpet-related ideas for the parents to give their kid for Christmas, I
prepared a list of things which every middle school or high school trumpet
student should eventually have. Nearly all the items were relatively
inexpensive and included a chromatic tuner, metronome, cleaning brushes, and
lots of recordings. I've always been alarmed how many of my students have NO
recordings of great trumpet playing and I have adopted the informal rule that
each student should ask for at least one trumpet playing CD for Christmas and
his or her birthday each year.

I've passed out a similar list (to all the parents) last year and the list is
probably due for an update or at least the benefit of something other than my
myopic view. So, I pose a question or two:

What do you think is the best inexpensive metronome on the market?
What do you think is the best inexpensive chromatic tuner on the market?
What recordings do you think should absolutely be in every trumpet players
collection?
Are there other things or books that every student trumpt player should have?

If this project doesn't meet with overwhelming boredom and indifference, I'll
probably post the list on my web site so all can see the suggestions (and
perhaps pass it out to the parents of your students as well).

Thanks in advance.

Jim Donaldson
Denver, Colorado
JFDon...@aol.com

The Schilke Loyalist
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Eric Klobas

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Nov 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/20/99
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For tuners I would recomend the "Korg DT3" . I have seen these hit the
stage floor, and the only result is the battery door pops off. simply
re-assemble and you are on your way.
The Korg tracks reasonably well, and the display is easy to read.
its only weakness is it doesn't always "track" when playing in a group.
Watch for battery life, as I saw one nice tuner with a 3 hr. battery
life! The corg seems to need its battery replaced about every six months
with heavy use.
Eric

Doug Hardie

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Nov 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/20/99
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In article <19991120180520...@ng-fv1.aol.com>,
jfdon...@aol.com (JFDonaldsn) wrote:

> What recordings do you think should absolutely be in every trumpet players
> collection?
> Are there other things or books that every student trumpt player should have?

I would include in that list David Baldwin's The Etudes of Charlier and
Bitsch. I wish I could have heard that as a kid. I would also include
anything by Spike Jones. Kids should know that music can be fun and
played well at the same time.

Steve Won

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Nov 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/20/99
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JFDonaldsn <jfdon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> What do you think is the best inexpensive metronome on the market?

I like the Yamaha QT1--though it's not the best metronome available, it's
very sturdy and durable. It's available in bright green/turquoise and dark
purple, which kids seem to like (hell, which I liked :) ). Also, unlike the
credit card-size metronomes, it's small enough to be portable but big enough
to be difficult to lose/forget. Goes for about $30.

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Ed Grant

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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Lessee...for metronome I'd pick the EMA. Like someone else said, unlike the
"credit card" units, it's big enough not to get lost, carries a larger
battery, makes much more sound (if you want the audio feature), yet is very
simple to use. I dropped my old credit card unit once and it started timing
at 180% of what I was setting! I like this big one better, and it even has
flashing lights that strobe back and forth. It's about the size of two "Old
Port Cigarillo" packages back to back (does anyone still smoke those?)
Cheap, (made in China), but effective. Even has an earphone plug-in (which
I've been known to use with one of those "cheaters" that let you connect
anything up to a cassette player). With this you can really get some volume
out of it!

Can't recommend much in the way of tuners though. Read my previous post
about picking a cornet and the problems with overtones. Perhaps one of the
"collectors" knows of one that works with everything. The Yamaha at the
store seemed to work well but I can't comment on price nor durability.

Music...aha

I'd personally suggest collections; low cost but lots of variety; and
usually the best stuff from each musician. Classical, jazz, big band,
Dixieland, movie themes, military stuff...the whole enchillada. Personal
favorites are:

"Greatest Hits - Trumpet" Sony MLK66702. Includes Marsalis, Schwarz.
London Symphony, Mark Gould, Ronald Romm, etc.

"Jazz Trumpet" JazzFest 3-2205-2. Includes Chet Baker, Dizzy, Clark Terry,
Freddie Hubbard, Roy Eldridge, Art Farmer, Don Ellis.

Anything by Canadian Brass (naturally...and even though most of them aren't
Canadian!)

Once the ear is formed and a genre is selected, the student will gravitate
towards that kind of music for their personal collection.

JFDonaldsn <jfdon...@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Learned friends,
>
>

Dr. Trumpet

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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In article <19991120180520...@ng-fv1.aol.com>,
jfdon...@aol.com (JFDonaldsn) wrote:

> What do you think is the best inexpensive metronome on the market?

Korg MA 20. The reasons:
1. Takes AAA batteries instead of the expensive watch batteries that
others take.
2. Plays 0-7 beat patterns.
3. 40-208 BPM.
4. Has a reference tone set of C4-B4, chromatically.
5. Calibration range of 413-420, 438-445.
6. Subdivides at all tempos to eights, sixteenths, dotted
eight/sixteenths, triplets and swing triplets.
7. You can tap in any tempo and it will pick up that tempo.
8. Has it's own built in stand to set it upright.
9. Price is around $30.

> What do you think is the best inexpensive tuner on the market?

Seiko ST-747 Chromatic Tuner
1. Fully chromatic.
2. Works with pickup or via small input mic (built-in).
3. Uses 9 volt battery.
4. Lights display sharp, flat or in tune, but also has dial that tells
exact tuning setting for the instrument. (Cents sharp or flat)
5. Durable.
6. May tune notes specifically, or tuner can be set to auto mode to
detect and register pitch.
7. Most accurate small tuner I've ever used. Short of the top of the
line Korg or Petersons, this is it.

> What recordings do you think should absolutely be in every trumpet players
> collection?

Maurice Andre-2 CD set of great trumpet concertos.
Timofei Dokschiter-any recording with Arutunian on it.
David Hickman-re-release from Crystal of a number of great 20th century
pieces, including the Kennan, Stevens, and others.
Maynard Ferguson-My favorite is Chameleon, but there are so many-maybe the
Greatest hits or live at Jimmy's?
Chase-Chase
Chicago Symphony-either Mahler 5 or Pictures at an Exhibition or both.
Phil Smith's Orchestral Audition CD-to hear how they should sound!
Canadian Brass-Greatest Hits (a good overview)
Summit Brass-Several good ones out there!
Clifford Brown-any ........

> Are there other things or books that every student trumpt player should have?

Randell/Apel-The New Harvard Dictionary of Music

Rmidn...@webtv.net

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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< recordings > Maybe a collection of jazz standards might be
refreshing for young jazz ears (like mine). Look at the songs on Chet
Baker in Paris vol.2. - 1) Summertime 2) You Go To My Head 3) Tenderly
4) Loverman 5) There's A Small Hotel 6) Autumn In New York 7) These
Foolish Things 8) I'll Remember April 9) Alone Together 10) Exitus
11) Once In A While 12) All The Things You Are 13) is the only vocal,
and the first of Chet's recording career - Everything Happens To Me -
An interesting bit on the session that produced the first 8 of these
songs - The piano player in the quartet - Dick Twardzik - had died 3
days previously, the recording session had been booked and another piano
player had to be found. Thats the reason for so many standards. Paul in
Boston (all hat no cattle)


Steve Nathan

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Nov 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/21/99
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I love my metronome - mechanical and all of 3 inches high, but probably a
bit expensive for a stocking filler (I think mine cost about £35 and has
Wittner written on the bottom).

I chucked my creditcard metronome away - the beat seemed uneven to me. Has
anyone had similar problems or did I just get a dud?


Steve

Stanton

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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Good news Al.... I just bought one for $18!!!! You're right. They are an
unbelievable value

SK
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bugleboy

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Nov 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/22/99
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I have Seiko Digital Metronom DM-22. It is a credit card size.

I found the pitches and timing change enough for my ears to detect when
the credit card metronom moves (droppler effect?). When it is placed on
the stationary place, it is perfect. It is compact but it is not
mobile. You will have a much bigger problem when you use the mechanical
one while you are driving.

You will probably get crazy when you use it on the plane because its
timing and pitches slightly drift every time the plane bumps.


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Gimpy

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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Well, let me just add the obvious other things I would thin.k everyone would
HAVE to have by now. 1) straight mute 2) cup mute 3) harmon mute 4) practice
mute 5) copies of some of the best trumpet solos/work ever written. (And I'm
a classical gal so here goes.. ) "Fanfare for the Common Man", "Quiet City",
Kennan's Sonata, and all those other variously wonderful peices; good for
university music scholarships, that I can't think of right this second.

About the metronome bit, I recently put my favorite little metronome through
the washer. It was credit card sized, but did a hell of a job for the past
nine years. Think it was a Seiko. Anyhow, it survived it's trip through the
spin cycle. Amazing little device.
>Sarah L.
New Castle, DE

Dennis

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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A gift idea for the person who already has a metronome and tuner...
how about something to hold them on your music stand.

I bought one of these, and love it. they are very well made, and
can highly recommend them: http://www.driveninc.com/gordon/

The clamp is very solid, and the wood and finish is beautiful.

The maker is a trumpet player in Detroit, who sometimes participates
in this group.

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Dennis

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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to see some uses for the stand i mentioned, go to:
http://www.driveninc.com/gordon/page3.html

bugleboy

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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How about a "rec.music.maker.trumpet" T-shirt?

Dr. Trumpet

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Nov 23, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/23/99
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In article <STn_3.26332$zd.3...@news1.alsv1.occa.home.com>, "Dennis"
<NoS...@home.com> wrote:

> A gift idea for the person who already has a metronome and tuner...
> how about something to hold them on your music stand.
>

That is another good gift. For Less than $40, there is a wonderful music
stand made by Belmonte that breaks down into two pieces, and is portable.
It also passes the Arbans test (which is to throw an Arbans on a stand
from 5 paces and see if the stand falls over or collapses).

It is similar to the Voyager stand, but the top is adjustable, and tilts
to different levels. We got four of them for the Centennial Brass and
have never been happier with a portable stand.

I don't know about you, but my students seem to use the end obe and the
case a little too often not to push for a better stand.

AL

Stanton

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Nov 24, 1999, 3:00:00 AM11/24/99
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Though that is a good stand, the one I really like the K&M heavy duty
folding stand. Though not as heavy as some, it folds down, only somewhat
larger than the cheapie Hamilton stands, has an tilt adjustable desk (if you
can call it a desk), two expansion sections with knurled knob adjusters and
a base similar to my folding light stands. Its super stable, but unlike the
Voyager, it stays in one piece and the desk part folds too, so I can
transport it in a small telescope bag.

Happy Holidays
SK

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