Tongueing thru the teeth?

[bd...@my-deja.com]

I just read on Eddie Savern's website, I guess he is a pro jazz
trumpeter
from Scotland, that you should tongue thru your teeth to the lower part
of the upper lip for clearer articulation. In addition he says for
softer articul;ation tongue behind the teeth. Isn't that crazy? I
thought it was always behind the teeth. Anyone heard of or do the
tonguing thru the teeth.

Thanks,
Bob

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[William Graham]

I only have about 15 years experience playing, but it seems to me that the
clearest, best tonguing is anything you do that stops the airflow
completely. In my case, touching the teeth does it best. Now, I can do
several things that are faster, but they don't stop the airflow completely,
so their effect is "softer", and the articulation isn't as good. In other
words, I have to sacrifice speed for good articulation, and the end point of
most of my tonguing practice, is to gain speed without softening up the
effect. - Bill Graham
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[Michael E. Schmidt]

"The tip of the tongue must strike the inner part of your lips through your
open teeth." -Callet

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[Charles Reace]

Mr. Callet advocates this as part of his 'superchops' embouchure. I
also recall reading somewhere that a famous player from earlier in the
20th century (but I can't remember who just now) tongued through his
teeth. I experimented with this some last summer, and found that after
getting used to it (maybe a week) it worked fine for me; but I couldn't
double or triple tongue worth a damn that way, so I switched back to
behind the teeth.

In article <93kru2$en5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
bd...@my-deja.com wrote:

--
Charles Reace (creace AT net-gate.com)
"Lotteries are taxes on people with poor math skills."

[Thomas Robins]

bd...@my-deja.com wrote:

> I just read on Eddie Savern's website, I guess he is a pro jazz
> trumpeter
> from Scotland, that you should tongue thru your teeth to the lower part
> of the upper lip for clearer articulation. In addition he says for
> softer articul;ation tongue behind the teeth. Isn't that crazy? I
> thought it was always behind the teeth. Anyone heard of or do the
> tonguing thru the teeth.

Yes; and for double/triple tounging "Di-Gi" seems to work the best with
the "Di" through the teeth.

Tom Robins

[Jerry Freedman Jr]

In article <93kru2$en5$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
bd...@my-deja.com wrote:

Leon Merian teaches it and even talks about it in his autobiography
--
Creation took 6 days because God didn't
have an installed base

[mus...@my-deja.com]

I have been playing for about 23 years but only recently got a pro
teacher. Being self taught, I didn't even think about how to tongue, I
just did it. In the last 5 months I have been trying to "unlearn"
tongueing through my teeth. My teacher (and he's pretty good!!) says
that it is more difficult to keep a consistant embrechure when you are
sticking something through it and changing it's shape all the time.

I'll keep trying to fix it for another six months or so.

BJ

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bd...@my-deja.com wrote:

[Scott]

Ive always toungued through my teeth until i figured out that behind the
teeth worked better on softer stuff. Now i combine the two.

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[Jim Donaldson]

>....you should tongue thru your teeth to the lower part of the
>upper lip for clearer articulation. ... Isn't that crazy? I

>thought it was always behind the teeth.

For every "rule" you can think of, with the possible exception of which end of
the horn you blow in, you can find somebody who is breaking that rule and
playing fabulously.

That's why all of this is remains so mysterious.

Jim Donaldson
Denver Colorado
JFDon...@aol.com

The Schilke Loyalist
http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke

[William Graham]

Actually, I have found that putting your lower face in the bell and sucking
in the air through your tightly compressed lips works really well.....
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[JimW]

It's probably not the best analogy in this day and time, but Doc Severinsen
was once quoted as saying it was like spitting a piece of tobacco from the
end of your tongue. I think that's effectively what Callet is saying, too.

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