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TelTech

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Dec 19, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/19/99
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kev...@hotmail.com wrote:

>If you own a standard silver polishing cloth (not using any tarnishield or
>anything) and polish your horn alot (like 2 times daliy) is that ok for it?
>My trumpet seems to get black spots every other day for some reason and I
>have to get rid of those, and the fingerprints. Please tell me if this is
>ok. I know its kinda obsessive, but tarnish is just so ugly and I want to
>keep it looking new. Also, I just bought my cloth yesterday, (and the new
>trumpet the day before that) and the cloth is already really black. Am I
>taking away bulidup or silver? Is this ok?

I use the same type cloth, and I've found it works better than any
liquid polishes I've tried; however, I only polish every couple
weeks. A lot depends on exposure to air. For a while, I kept it in
the open (on a trumpet stand) for easy access (and to encourage myself
to practise <g>); this had a drastic effect on tarnishing - like
overnite it would tarnish quite noticeably. Keeping it in the case,
it stays clean a lot longer (weeks!).
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TelTech

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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kev...@hotmail.com wrote:
Yes, eventually ANY cleaning method will wear off the sil;ver - which
is why I don't make a habit of it except when necessary. However, I
think the soft polishing cloths are about as gentle as anything
available. I've had my King Cleveland since new - about 25 years -
and it still has no damage to the plating.

As for black spots, I'd be a bit concerned there - you may already
have worn through the plating in those areas. My flute has a few of
these, eg. where the thumbs rest constantly to support the instrument,
and I put it down to my sweaty hands. I cannot remove these spots at
all, not even with silvo; they appear to be rough as well, and I'm
sure the finish there is just eaten through. Strangely though, the
trumpet has no such problem areas, even aroung the valve casings which
obviously have a lot of hand contact. I suspect the original silver
plating on the trumpet was much more subtantial than that on the
flute.

>Will wiping it with my cloth wear off the silver? Also, won't some of those
>black spots stay on if you don't remove them quickly?
>
>Kevin
>
>In article <385cfe36....@news.telusplanet.net>,

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>Before you buy.

TrmpTrim

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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polishing I've found a wonderful cleaner I use regularly. It's called
"Twinkle" and you can find it in most any jewelry store. Just lather it on and
rinse it away. It hasn't seemed to harm my finish in any way and I've been
using it for about 2 years now. Super easy and gets in all the creases.

Good luck,

Jon Trimble

Padraic Brown

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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kev...@hotmail.com wrote:
: If you own a standard silver polishing cloth (not using any tarnishield or
: anything) and polish your horn alot (like 2 times daliy) is that ok for it?
: My trumpet seems to get black spots every other day for some reason and I
: have to get rid of those, and the fingerprints. Please tell me if this is

Scrub up before playing! Using a good soap and spending some time under
the faucet with a good vigourous action will help get rid of a lot of the
oils and dirt that cause fingerprints to be deposited on your horn.

: ok. I know its kinda obsessive, but tarnish is just so ugly and I want to


: keep it looking new. Also, I just bought my cloth yesterday, (and the new
: trumpet the day before that) and the cloth is already really black. Am I
: taking away bulidup or silver? Is this ok?

You're taking away both, of course, but that can't be helped.

Padraic.

: Thanks
: Kevin


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: Before you buy.

Frans Breukelman

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Dec 20, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/20/99
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[...]

>weeks. A lot depends on exposure to air. For a while, I kept it in
>the open (on a trumpet stand) for easy access (and to encourage myself
>to practise <g>); this had a drastic effect on tarnishing - like
>overnite it would tarnish quite noticeably. Keeping it in the case,
>it stays clean a lot longer (weeks!).


It is not air, but light that tarnishes silver, but indeed: keep the
instrument in its
case (or in the dark).

>one.net

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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On Sun, 19 Dec 1999 06:37:48 GMT, kev...@hotmail.com wrote:

>If you own a standard silver polishing cloth (not using any tarnishield or
>anything) and polish your horn alot (like 2 times daliy) is that ok for it?
>My trumpet seems to get black spots every other day for some reason and I
>have to get rid of those, and the fingerprints. Please tell me if this is

>ok. I know its kinda obsessive, but tarnish is just so ugly and I want to
>keep it looking new. Also, I just bought my cloth yesterday, (and the new
>trumpet the day before that) and the cloth is already really black. Am I
>taking away bulidup or silver? Is this ok?
>

>Thanks
>Kevin
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

I can't remember where to get it, but you can get this specially
treated (black) paper that absorbs the nasty chemicals in the air (in
small enclosed spaces such as a trumpet case) and slows the tarnishing
process quite a bit.

Incidentaly, airborne sulfer compounds tarnish silver quite badly; do
you boil/steam cabbage or broccoli very often? They can release enough
"nasties" to rapidly tarnish silver.

D.E.

sa...@gems.com

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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Or do you eat a lot of eggs? Whew...grin

Bill

John Kool

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Dec 21, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/21/99
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> I can't remember where to get it, but you can get this specially
> treated (black) paper that absorbs the nasty chemicals in the air (in
> small enclosed spaces such as a trumpet case) and slows the tarnishing
> process quite a bit.

3-M makes the paper strips. I believe UMI (King and Conn and Benge) has a
private label version. You will get a package of many strips. Put one in
your case. Put the others in a Zip Lock (or other sealed bag), or they will
all lose their effectiveness at the same time. Some old timers say a piece
of camphor (whatever that is) will do the same thing.


Christopher Barry

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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>I can't remember where to get it, but you can get this specially
>treated (black) paper that absorbs the nasty chemicals in the air (in
>small enclosed spaces such as a trumpet case) and slows the tarnishing
>process quite a bit.
>D.E.

So that's what that tiny piece of black paper is doing attached to the
plastic bag a new Bach Mouthpiece comes in...

g...@nospam.intrepid.net

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Dec 22, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/22/99
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3m makes the paper stips and you can get them from
http://www.ferreestools.com/

Rick Sonntag

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Dec 25, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/25/99
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I joined this thread very late, so maybe this subject has already been
covered and scrolled off the board, but I'll offer my $0.02 anyway:

3M Tarni-shield is, by far, THE BEST silver polish I have ever seen. It's
the least abrasive, and it puts on a protective coating that prevents
tarnish for the future, and protects the silver from scratches. It makes it
look like a mirror. Putting this polish on is the very first thing that I do
when I buy a new trumpet, because its coating will PREVENT scratches from
forming.

By the way, DO NOT polish your mouthpiece with it. The coating will prevent
the mouthpiece from wetting properly, and will make it stick to your lips in
a funny way.

Here is an interesting article on silver care that mentions various silver
polishes:
http://www.antiquerestorers.com/Articles/silver/care.htm

Rick
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TelTech

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Dec 28, 1999, 3:00:00 AM12/28/99
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Rick Sonntag <RickS...@compuserve.com> wrote:

>I joined this thread very late, so maybe this subject has already been
>covered and scrolled off the board, but I'll offer my $0.02 anyway:
>
>3M Tarni-shield is, by far, THE BEST silver polish I have ever seen. It's
>the least abrasive, and it puts on a protective coating that prevents
>tarnish for the future, and protects the silver from scratches. It makes it
>look like a mirror. Putting this polish on is the very first thing that I do
>when I buy a new trumpet, because its coating will PREVENT scratches from
>forming.

Tried it once - didn't like it <g>.

I found it tarnished even faster - not the metal, but the tarnishield
coating itself turns an ugly brown color in no time. This can easily
be wiped off with a dry cloth - but that also removes the protection!
That's why I went to the treated polishing cloth - no liquids to deal
with, and it removes silver tarnish (almost as easily as removing
"tarnished" tarnishield).

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