Help: I Cannot take the mouthpiece off the trumpet!
Plevrakis, A.
Hello all.
I cannot take off the mouthpiece. It seems to be stuck, and the thing must
have happened last week when the trumpet was hit a little at the bell. It
does not seem to be bent though...
What should I do? I thought heating, hitting etc after pulling with all the
strength I have with my hands. ANY ideas please?
Thanks,
Antonis Plevrakis,
Iraclion, Crete, Greece.
NORGEFAR
Take it to an instrument repair shop (often part of larger music stores) or if
none available where you live, to the high school band director, who may have
the mouthpiece pulling tool that can pinpoint force on the mouthpiece without
ripping the leadpipe from its bracing. What you basically need to accomplish
is putting the mouthpiece receiver (end of the lead pipe) in a grip/vice so
that no force is transmitted down the leadpipe. then force is applied to the
mouthpiece directly parallel to the leadpipe (not at an angle).
Mitch Collinsworth
>I cannot take off the mouthpiece. It seems to be stuck, and the thing must
>have happened last week when the trumpet was hit a little at the bell. It
>does not seem to be bent though...
>What should I do? I thought heating, hitting etc after pulling with all the
>strength I have with my hands. ANY ideas please?
Hi Antonis,
There is a special tool made for pulling stuck mouthpieces. If you
are in school, your school band director might just have one. If
not, most music shops that carry brass instruments also have them.
If at all possible you should remove your mp with the right tool.
It is far too easy to damage your trumpet by trying the methods you
suggest above. (Please don't ask me how I know this! :-)
-Mitch
--
"Families can't trust Disney"
Albert L. Lilly III
In article <01bd7ff0$9a830bc0$7401...@pcmis6.minoan.gr>, "Plevrakis, A."
<pley...@csd.uch.gr> wrote:
>Hello all.
>
>I cannot take off the mouthpiece. It seems to be stuck, and the thing must
>have happened last week when the trumpet was hit a little at the bell. It
>does not seem to be bent though...
>
>What should I do? I thought heating, hitting etc after pulling with all the
>strength I have with my hands. ANY ideas please?
In the US, there are these little rubber gripper things (for lack of a
better term) that you can buy to help in the opening of jar lids and the
like. I sometimes use mine to get a better grip on the mouthpiece, which
usually makes all of the difference. I have seen people take a rawhide
hammer and tap around the mouthpiece of the instrument free it, but I have
Monette mouthpiece and would never want to do that with them (too soft).
The final solution could very well be the instrument repair shop. Good
luck.
Al Lilly Trumpeter, Brass Clinician, Arranger and Composer
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Brent Anthony
Well, if you are interested in getting it out and making sure in the
future that if it hapens again you'll be prepared, then I would suggest
purchasing a mouthpiece remover (puller). They can be pricey, but are
worth the money. Most trumpet teachers have them, so maybe you could
inquire about that.
As a preventive measure, when you get the mouthpiece out, wipe it off and
clean it well. Then, before you put the mouthpiece in the next time,
place a drop or two of valve oil around the mouthpiece shank, the part of
the mp that inserts into the trumpet, and smear the oil around on all
parts of the shank. This helps to ease the mouthpiece's insertion and
removal. At least, it does for me.
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One more thing that I forgot: be VERY careful when pulling on a stuck
mouthpiece with your hands. You may put too much force behind your
pulling and crack the lead pipe or bend it at the very least. Only pull
with the amount of force you would when trying to open a stuck car door or
something (and probably much less than that). Never pull straight out
either. Always pull in a clockwise or counterclockwise manner (opposite
to the way you put the mouthpiece in). No more pressure than you are
comfortable in doing. Then, if all goes well, the mouthpiece MAY come
out. If it doesn't, then you need to get a mouthpiece remover or take it
to a instrument repair shop.
Rosenquist
Hi Antonis !
A mouthpiece puller will damage your moutpiece and your mouthpiece receiver ! Be careful with the "puller"
What you can do is sit down on a chair, but the bell of the horn between left arm.
The mouthpiece have to between your legs. Take a WOODEN block (soft, because a hard material will damage you mp.) and place it on the back side of the rim ! Now the only thing you have to do is take a hammer and tick softly on the wooden block. By this way there are no pressure on the horn that there will be nothing broken !
If this doesn't work just go to an repair man mostly he will do it on this way, without damaging your horn !
Regards,
Daniël Rosenquist
Cornet player Salvation Army
The Netherlands
Bruce Richardson
WRONG!!!!!!!!
Go to a repair shop, if you cannot find a mouthpiece puller. Don't attempt
to remove it yourself unless you have some experience.
NEVER try to twist it out. If it doesn't come out with minimum force, then
it's stuck and needs to be properly pulled.
--
Bruce A. Richardson
Purple Iguana Productions
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Turbotrump
>Go to a repair shop, if you cannot find a mouthpiece puller. Don't attempt
>to remove it yourself unless you have some experience.
>
>
Not so fast guys. I have seen no mention of mild thermal techniques. Run
warm, not scalding, water over the lead pipe receiver. Quickly place only the
mpc in ice water and see if you can then pull it out by hand.
If this fails, then go to the shop.
BrassCjt
Heat the reciever with your breath and rubbing it with your hands, and pull the
mouthpiece out forcefully, but with control. The best way is to concertrate
your strength on gripping the mouthpiece, not so much on the pulling. Also,
hold the horn by the reciever, not by any other parts. Its always worked with
me.
~cory~
Björn Ekeblom
Plevrakis, A. <pley...@csd.uch.gr> skrev i inlägg
<01bd7ff0$9a830bc0$7401...@pcmis6.minoan.gr>...
> Hello all.
>
> I cannot take off the mouthpiece. It seems to be stuck, and the thing
must
> have happened last week when the trumpet was hit a little at the bell. It
> does not seem to be bent though...
>
> What should I do? I thought heating, hitting etc after pulling with all
the
> strength I have with my hands. ANY ideas please?
>
> Thanks,
> Antonis Plevrakis,
> Iraclion, Crete, Greece.
>
Hi. I'm a member ofThe Swedish Mounted Band of the Royal life Guards.
We are Riding a horse at the same time we're playing Marches. To not lose
our mouth pieces we make sure that they're REALLY stuck in the lead pipe.
Sometimes we can't get it out of there. Then we use a DOOR to get it out!
On the sida that the door is connected to the wall you put the mouthpiece.
Between the door and the wall. Then you close the door as much as you can.
you shouldn't be abel to move the mouthpiece. and then you twist your
trumpet and "PLOPP" the mouthpiece is free.
I would like to point out that you shouldn't do this ,on any door that is
in a good condition. It leaves a ugly mark in the door.
Bruce Richardson
NO NO NO NO NO NO
EEEEEEEEEEEK!!!
You guys are killing me (and maybe your horns, eventually). Don't do
this...you can twist the lead pipe right off the horn!!
Either:
1) use gentle hand pressure...if that doesn't work
2) use some of the gentle thermal/penetrating oil techniqes mentioned in
this thread, or
3) use a mouthpiece puller designed for the purpose.
Using any means of mechanical force to twist a mouthpiece out can seriously
damage your horn. Don't do it.
--
Bruce A. Richardson
Purple Iguana Productions
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Alex Hemsath
> Hi. I'm a member ofThe Swedish Mounted Band of the Royal life Guards.
> We are Riding a horse at the same time we're playing Marches. To not lose
> our mouth pieces we make sure that they're REALLY stuck in the lead pipe.
>
> On the sida that the door is connected to the wall you put the mouthpiece.
> Between the door and the wall. Then you close the door as much as you can.
> you shouldn't be abel to move the mouthpiece. and then you twist your
> trumpet and "PLOPP" the mouthpiece is free.
>
> I would like to point out that you shouldn't do this ,on any door that is
> in a good condition. It leaves a ugly mark in the door.
Somehow I doubt that you will find much sympathy for the door on this
newsgroup. Make sure you don't do this on any trumpet that is in good
condition, either.
Alex
zoop
did you trying squishing some valve oil down the tuning slide or even some
wd40?
zoop