So... I use a Stork Vacchiano series 5B trumpet mouthpiece. Fairly
small-- like a Bach 7D or so. In the last few months I've "regressed"
and embraced a philosophy to use smaller diameter mouthpieces, and it
has paid off. With the smaller rim size I find I get better endurance,
range, and a clearer tone. I know many have the opinion that one
should play the largest mouthpiece one can handle. I guess I'd have to
answer that the smaller sizes are simply what I can consistently
handle, better. I tried, but I can't hang with those 1 1/2Cs and
Schilke 15s-- and not be versatile (say, playing in swing band one
night and in a concert band the next). The Stork 5B has a rather
narrow rim, which may not suite many, but I find that its sharper rim
allows for better grip and facilitates the high range greatly. My lip
doesn't "roll off" when I push it. It has a different feel than most
Bach style rims. I simply can't play a mouthpiece with a mushy, soft
bite. The "B" cup is somewhat shallow, and is a modified "V" shape.
It doesn't seem to sacrifice too much tone-- for easier range. Sounds
pretty good. Marvin Stamm uses a modified version of the Stork 5D,
incidentally.
One thing I've noticed about playing a myriad of mouthpieces is how
many VERY GOOD ones are out there... Stork, Warburton, Laskey, Curry,
Schilke, Wick, Yamaha, Reeves, Bach (maybe) and more. It is such a
competative field these people MUST make good stuff to survive, and all
these folks seem committed to making an excellent product as a matter
of principle anyway, which is heartening. It is just a matter of
finding the right one for you.
Anyone else care to share their thoughts?
Mark
hppt://jazztrpt.freeservers.com
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Before you buy.
Before that a Schilke 19.
Mpc size depends not only on lip size but embouchure development and
type of embouchure used, (Do you allow lip to go into the cup or not)
and amount of pucker.
Try them yourself. Asking for opinions is as useful as throwing darts at
a mpc chart.
Information about my trumpet & embouchure books.
http://www.BbTrumpet.com
Best wishes
Clint 'Pops' McLaughlin
B flat- Monette B4S
C and Eflat- Monette C4S
Piccolo-Laskey 60*
Flugel-Bach 2 1/2 C
Cornet-Schilke 14
I started using Dave M's mouthpieces last year. Had been playing a Bach 5C on B
flat and a 2C on C trumpet. They are about the same diameter just the 2C is
deeper. I'd been playing a Bach B flat and C that Dave modified with his
leadpipe way back in our Indiana days about 20 years ago. I called him up and
tried them out last year. I have not touched the others since. All of the
mouthpieces I play have the same general rim size. Maybe there is a small
difference but I don't notice it. These mouthpieces are good all around
mouthpieces that can be played in Band, Orchestra or Jazz/Club/Dixieland
situations. Not too big/not too small. I'll probably get a Monette Cornet
mouthpiece next but I'm generally satisified with the Schilke. My view on
equipment is that they are basically inanimate objects that can't do anything
without us. They can facilitate us better playing, but we still have to make
the music. Bill
mailto:s.ric...@physics.org
http://freespace.virgin.net/sd.richards
Changed from Bach 1 1/2 C - I feel I get a fuller sound
with more control than I did with the Bach.
Here's the text of my brochure. The inner diameter is .652''
Introducing The EB2 custom trumpet mouthpiece. Designed by San Francisco Bay
Area trumpet player and educator Eric Bolvin and developed by master
mouthpiece maker Mark Curry, The EB2 is the culmination of many months of
hard work, study and creative thinking. The result is a mouthpiece that
offers the superior components found in today's top mouthpieces, while
utilizing the highest level of computer technology and engineering expertise
available today.
The EB2 has been created to make trumpet playing easier and
Features:
Rim. Well-rounded towards the cup and on the outer edge for an "easy bite"
feel. Provides for optimum comfort and maximum flexibility without loss of
attack. Advancing students and those with braces will find much relief
playing The EB2, particularly if they are currently playing on a flat style
rim or a rim with a sharp inner bite.
Cup. The EB2 features a unique primary/secondary cup configuration. The easy
bite of the rim takes us into a standard "concave" type of cup environment,
which then gradually resolves to a V style or "convex" cup. You feel the
comfort of a cup but can accelerate air much faster, increasing efficiency
and endurance. Students benefit immensely from this cup design, not only
through the fat, warm sound they hear coming out of the horn, but from the
fact that they are moving air correctly. The EB2 will actually train
advancing students to play correctly.
Throat and backbore. Balance is the critical aspect here. Most of the
popular V-style mouthpieces employ an extremely large throat, many as large
as 20 or even 19. The EB2 has a 25 throat, providing the resistance
necessary for the entire range of dynamics without sacrificing its
full-bodied sound and open blowing feel. The backbore is a Curry #10,
creating the perfect balance that the pro player desires and the advancing
student needs.
Heavy mass. Yeah, it looks cool, but the heavy mass helps in many ways. Ease
of intonation is improved, most notably in the middle to upper register,
creating an easier pathway to the upper register.
Craftsmanship. The EB2 is the highest quality mouthpiece available today.
Mark Curry's mouthpieces are designed on the latest 3D CAD/CAM program,
guaranteeing a consistency that is unprecedented. The silver plating is
immaculate and high-buffed to a fine shine.
--
Eric Bolvin
Trumpet, keyboards, composer, SF Bay Area
http://www.mp3.com/EricBolvin
http://www.geocities.com/BourbonStreet/Delta/8357
(408)236-2009
<jazz...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8sckbq$jtn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
> I'm not trying to start an argument, and I know some posters don't like
> to respond to a sort of a "poll" type question. But all I would like
> to ask is for you good (and not so good) people to simply state what
> trumpet/cornet/flugel mouthpiece you are currently using, and maybe
> give a brief explanation of what it is you like about it; how you came
> to using that particular mouthpiece, its characteristics, etc. This is
> all in the interest of our brass edification. Perhaps
> those "searching" will get some good ideas or save their money on
> trying something that doesn't work. Maybe we'll learn something from
> this board (wow-- what a concept!)
>
Flugel:Stork FL10
Cornet: StorkVM10
Picc.:Reeves SPT Custom P5 Rim
Trayne
Bb, C, Eb- Currently Old Style Bach 1C with 26 throat
and 24 backbore. Still waiting for the Laskey 75MD
with a 22 throat I ordered from Scott. He takes
forever.
Piccolo- Warburton 4M with a 9* backbore
Lead- Bach 1 1/2C rim on a D cup underpart with a 117
backbore.
Cornet- Dennis Wick 4
Josh
trump...@home.com
Praise him with trumpet sound!!
So... I use a Stork Vacchiano series 5B trumpet mouthpiece. Fairly
Shilke 11A for Piccolo
I'd like to give some other things a try but I don't have time to let my
chops go to shit. I'd like to try maybe Monette B3 or B4 B3L B4L for my Bb
monette and I haven't really tried maybe other things on picc. I've found
that if I go much bigger, I lose my focus for I go higher. With the 11A I
feel pretty comfortable up to High F and then I have to work a little for
the G and I have to really work for the A.
FYI, I play a Yamaha Shew horn (6310ZS)
Regards,
Dale
hor...@NOSPAMdave-world.net
Remove NOSPAM from email address to reply
Tottlle 3C* with backbore from a Mt Vernon 9C for legit.
Tottle 7EE with the same 9C's backbore for piccolo.
X25 with unmarked Tottle backbore (small with a 24 throat) for lead.
7EE with the unmarked backbore on most horns for jazz but I use a Martin
backbore with my Martin Committee.
Bach 1C flugel for legit and Tottle 7 flugel on gigs with the smaller trumpet
mouthpiece.
At least that is what I am using this week.
Here is a conversatin that I once had with a most famous trumpeter.
Moon: " Is that the same mouthpiece?"
Ghitalla (ponders a few seconds and replies:
"Since when?"
Moon: "Since last year."
Ghitalla: "Oh, I thought you meant 2 weeks ago"
<> Before you buy.
Undoubtedly, the Curry MP gives me a better sound on all my trumpets,
but the rim is not quite as comfortable as the Reeves.
Mark made me a modified WT 7 which was an improvement, only that I found
it to be too small.. I'm now going to ask him to make the same
modifications to a WT 5, but with a more comfortable "Reeves" type rim.
I wonder if navigating the Amazon is any more complicated than the
trumpet/mouthpiece jungle.
Mike Terry
http://www.flipoakes.com/mouthpieces.htm
--
Flip Oakes “Wild Thing Trumpets”
COME AND HEAR THE DIFFERENCE
http://www.flipoakes.com
"To read what Wild Thing owners say about their horns, click on this"
http://www.flipoakes.com/testimonials.htm
Flip Oakes
1632 Burroughs St.
Oceanside, Ca. 92054-5911
760-722-1501
Well, this is my current lineup. Over the past few years, the the main
mouthpiece (Bb and C trumpets) has been going back and forth between Monette
and Laskey. And there was a stork in there for a few months when I coudn't
afford either of the others. With Monette I used everything from the B6 to the
B2, and Laskeys 60 to the 68 series. The monettes I went smaller over time.
The Laskeys I went bigger. Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but hey, neither
do I sometimes. And just as a trailer, someone else did, my horns are as
follows:
Bb Yamaha 6335HGS/modified Heavy caps, tuning slide modification, amado water
keys, cryo treatment.
C Yamaha/Malone 6445H Got the full treatment from malone.
Picc. Stomvi Elite completely stock.
Matthew Thomas
On picc I use a Warburton 4M with the anchor grip and a 10 trumpet backbore for
the A side with a Blackburn pipe. I use the same top with a KT* cornet
backbore on the Bb side because I can't use the Blackburn pipe on the Bb side
of the Schilke picc.
On cornet I use a Warburton 4BC (British Cup) with a 10* backbore and a 23
throat. I was told the Wick 4B was the only mouthpiece I should use in a brass
band but I urge all of you that are playing on the "front row" in a brass band
to give this piece a try. The Wick is a great mouthpiece but the throat is
huge. I measured it at about a 16! That's the same as a flugel mouthpiece
throat. I still get the same sound with the Warburton and have more control
and endurance.
The other Bb mouthpiece I used to use is a Warburton 4D and a 7* backbore. I
liked that combination and would be comfortable on that set up if I needed to
switch from the Bach for some reason.
But I really like a statement I heard a long time ago. That is that I own a
lot of trumpets and mouthpieces and they all still play better that I do.
Mark
About 20n years ago I had several mouthpieces opened up at Giradinelli's in
NYC. They stamped 26 on the throat and S on the backbore for symphonic. It's
either a 24 or a Giardinelli 4. I didn't ask, I jsut told them to open them up
to a 26 throat and Symphonic backbore. He did it while I waited. they sound
good. Still have em. Regards, Bill
Same here! Regards, Bill
After spending one evening with Pops, I followed his advice and went
back to a more "natural" (for me) embouchure. I now use the Flip Oakes
Wild Thing 1 mpc. I like it 'cause it gives me the room I need (I have
relatively large lips) and gives me a tone I really like. The only
time I would use something else is if I needed a particularly bright,
or cutting sound. I would then use the Schilke 14A4.
Larry Woods
In article <8sckbq$jtn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
--
Larry Woods
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In article <20001016093340...@ng-ca1.aol.com>, mark...@aol.com
(MarkB315) wrote:
> On Bb and C I have two old Bach 1 1/2C's with the S backbore. I'm not sure
> exactly what that is and even Bach has been wishy washy on their answer's as
to
> But I really like a statement I heard a long time ago. That is that I own a
> lot of trumpets and mouthpieces and they all still play better that I do.
>
> Mark
>
>
On flugel I use a Bach 2CFL. Not the richest sound but OK and easy to
handle in terms of range and intonation.
Derfander Neuman
--
www.mp3.com/bobdough
www.mp3.com/fertileground
www.mp3.com/hotter_than_whatt
"Larry Woods" <ldw...@mail.com> wrote in message
news:8sfhn2$seu$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...
cd
Bb: Breslmair G2
Eb/D/G: Bach 3 C
Picc A/Bb: Yamaha 14A4A
Flg:
Hackl-Windhager spec.
A Schilke 14FL with my even older Couesenon flugel.
They're a bit small, but allow me to keep control with limited time for
practice.
Sorry to turn this into a bonist's discussion (well not really), but what's
the aluminium mouthpiece like? And who makes them?
Tpt: Bach 1 1/2c looking to change over to Yamaha 14b4, but I wouldn't mind
trying something with a narrower rim. Suggestions? (I know you can customs
made up, but price is a big issue)
Cornet: Wick 4 1/2 looking to change to a yamaha 16e
Tenor trom: Bach 22D or Bach 6 1/2AL
Euph: Wick 4AL
I wouldn't mind trying out a few marcinciewicz pieces. I've tried both a
trumpet and a trom and they seemed comfortable. The only problem is that I
don't really want to spend any money on it and there is no where in Sydney
to try 'em out.
"Stuart Anthony Collidge" <scol...@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:T1QG5.3345$e5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com...
Bb trumpet MP ..... WT #5
Bb cornet MP .... Curry #5DC
Cornet: Curry 5 - I've just gotten back into playing cornet (got
a "Wild Thing" Bb cornet in August). I first tried it with a Schilke
15C4 with the idea that it should minimize the differences when I
switched from trumpet to cornet, but didn't really like it. The Curry
came with the horn, and has a true cornet v-shaped cup, and definitely
gives me a lusher sound. I also got a Flip Oakes #3 (#18 bore)
mouthpiece when I ordered the horn, but have found it somewhat more
difficult to play on, though the sound I can get on it is quite nice.
For now I'm sticking with the Curry. I'm thinking about special
ordering a Schilke 15 with the #4 rim and a V cup, and possibly a
slightly larger bore than standard to see if I can get the sound of the
Curry or FO mouthpieces with the feel I like of the Schilke.
In article <8sckbq$jtn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
jazz...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I'm not trying to start an argument, and I know some posters don't
like
> to respond to a sort of a "poll" type question. But all I would like
> to ask is for you good (and not so good) people to simply state what
> trumpet/cornet/flugel mouthpiece you are currently using, and maybe
> give a brief explanation of what it is you like about it; how you came
> to using that particular mouthpiece, its characteristics, etc. This
is
> all in the interest of our brass edification. Perhaps
> those "searching" will get some good ideas or save their money on
> trying something that doesn't work. Maybe we'll learn something from
> this board (wow-- what a concept!)
> [SNIP]
--
Charles Reace (creace AT net-gate.com)
"Lotteries are taxes on people with poor math skills."
I do not like Warburton 2 pieces. I tried several and watched many. The
connecting point between top and bottom are not smooth.
In article <G8QG5.3351$e5....@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>,
Oops, brain cramp: that's a Curry 3DC - don't know where the '5' came
from.
> a "Wild Thing" Bb cornet in August). I first tried it with a Schilke
> 15C4 with the idea that it should minimize the differences when I
> switched from trumpet to cornet, but didn't really like it. The Curry
> came with the horn, and has a true cornet v-shaped cup, and definitely
> gives me a lusher sound. I also got a Flip Oakes #3 (#18 bore)
> mouthpiece when I ordered the horn, but have found it somewhat more
> difficult to play on, though the sound I can get on it is quite nice.
> For now I'm sticking with the Curry. I'm thinking about special
> ordering a Schilke 15 with the #4 rim and a V cup, and possibly a
> slightly larger bore than standard to see if I can get the sound of
the
> Curry or FO mouthpieces with the feel I like of the Schilke.
--
Charles Reace (creace AT net-gate.com)
"Lotteries are taxes on people with poor math skills."
In article <8sckbq$jtn$1...@nnrp1.deja.com>,
jazz...@my-deja.com wrote:
> ...all I would like to ask is for you ... to simply state what
> trumpet/cornet/flugel mouthpiece you are currently using, and maybe
> give a brief explanation of what it is you like about it; ...
Jet-Tone used to make trumpet and trobmone mouthpiees from aluminum.
I like them. They're *very* light, and warm up instantly, which is great when
playing outdoors or doubling a lot.
On the other hand, if you have an acid metabolism they corrode very badly ad
clog up. Doesn't happen with me, but does with a guy I used to play with a
lot.
I've ofte wondered why no other company did any research into them, though.
cd
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insert links when displaying it is available for $100. Use in
this fashion constitutes acceptance of these terms.
The one thing about playing a cornet mouthpiece on the trumpet is that
it plays a little soft; not a lot of projection, and sort of a weird
air flow feel. I may have Mark Curry copy it and make a true trumpet
version, but this seems to me to be a way to spend a lot of money
without any guarantees of being sure to get what you want in the end.
I don't know what the story is on these Bachs; I tried a famous Bach
Mt.Vernon 10 1/2C and it is in NO WAY the same mouthpiece as this one
(much smaller and a completely different cup). The new Bachs are in NO
WAY the same as this one either. Guess I'm stuck with trying to pay
Curry the big bucks to copy it. In the meantime, throw a couple of
coins in my hat when you pass by me in the street as you see me playing
this funky arrangement.
Mark
http://jazztrpt.freeservers.com
ALAN CHEZ
TRUMPET
-LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN
jazz...@my-deja.com wrote:
> I'm not trying to start an argument, and I know some posters don't like
> to respond to a sort of a "poll" type question. But all I would like
> to ask is for you good (and not so good) people to simply state what
> trumpet/cornet/flugel mouthpiece you are currently using, and maybe
> give a brief explanation of what it is you like about it; how you came
> to using that particular mouthpiece, its characteristics, etc. This is
> all in the interest of our brass edification. Perhaps
> those "searching" will get some good ideas or save their money on
> trying something that doesn't work. Maybe we'll learn something from
> this board (wow-- what a concept!)
>
Mark
http://jazztrpt.freeservers.com
Hi Alan, Welcome to the NG. Can you tell us a little about how you developed as
a trumpeter? Musical influences and practice habits and methods? How do you
balance the need for practice with not being worn out for live performance?
Regards, Bill (Late Night Band fan!)
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In article <20001201094420...@ng-fc1.aol.com>, sieg...@aol.com
(SiegTrmpt) wrote:
>>I USE A CALLET VARI CUP.
>>I LOVE IT ..
>>it has a big cushion and large rim .
>>it lets me curl the upper chop with room to let my chops vibrate.
>>
>>ALAN CHEZ
>>TRUMPET
>>-LATE SHOW WITH DAVID LETTERMAN
>
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In article <3A277F90...@optonline.net>, chezman
Michael,
You're no Alan Chez, so we don't care if you agree, and besides, the Vari -
Cup MP is nothing at all like your 12S. If you don't believe me, just ask Dr.
Payne. BTW, ask him why I didn't receive your MP3.
CC
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In article <20001202221609...@ng-fy1.aol.com>, tpt...@aol.com
(TPTCC42) wrote:
>>Alan, I agree, Callet is the best.
>>I switched this year from a Callet x 5 to a Callet 12 s.
>>I love the 12 s, it is the best mouthpiece that I ever played on.
>>Michael Schmidt
>
> Michael,
> You're no Alan Chez,
*Hello!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Did I ever say that I play the trumpet ( note to Mindspring Police, see I
used the word Trumpet) or sound like Alan Chez ?
Alan and I play in two completely different Genre's.
Alan and I have two very different sets of goals for what we are doing.
My trumpet playing goals do not involve being on T.V. ( although I have been
on T.V. many times and will be on W.A.T.C.'s Atlanta Live this Tuesday
night.) , being on David Letterman, etc....
*
so we don't care if you agree, and besides, the Vari -
> Cup MP is nothing at all like your 12S.
*Excuse me, I know all about the Callet Vari- Cup mouthpiece , I never said
that the Vari-cup mouthpiece was similar to the 12 s , they are only made by
the same person, Jerry makes a wide variety of mouthpieces. *
If you don't believe me, just ask Dr.
> Payne. BTW, ask him why I didn't receive your MP3.
*I will forward your request to him today,according to Dr. Payne , over 20
of you have received your Mp3 to date.
B.T.W., my instrumental version of" Mary Did You Know" goes out on the radio
on southern gospel radio stations starting this thursday.
Just ask for "Mary Did You Know " on Cabin Creek-Austin Taylor Productions
compilation disc # 17.This will give you a chance to hear it on the radio
if you would like to do so.
Thank You.
Chaplain Michael Schmidt
Trumpet of the Lord Ministries
Dacula, Ga
> CC
Not me, I asked twice.
>Just ask for "Mary Did You Know " on Cabin Creek-Austin Taylor Productions
I don't think my radio will reach from RI.
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In article <20001203124259...@ng-cr1.aol.com>,
Not that I am aware. >You should soon be able to order the compilation which
will contain two of
>my Trumpet and flugelhorn songs on it , "Mary Did You Know", and "More
You mean to purchase this? Are you nuts? You can't get an MP3 to sample and now
you want me to buy some unknown ?