Yamaha 8310z - worth the money?

[Robin Harris]

I am thinking about replacing my intermediate yamaha 4335g with something a
little more interesting, perhaps the 8310z.

Recently, however I was told by a reliable source that yamaha's do not
measure up to Besson's and although I am not buying anything without playing
it or liking it myself I would be interested to know what people's opinion
is on the various qualities of the 8310z and whether it is worth the £1000
price tag (and thats a discount the rrp is more like £1500)

I would try to get a second hand one but they do not seem to exist!

[Happy Canuck]

The Yamaha 8310Z is the NEW Bobby Shew horn and is a fantastic instrument! A
friend just moved from a Strad to one and it plays much better than her
Strad! I doubt if you'd find one second hand yet?!

Great horn. Check it out here
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D26667%2526CTID%253D551176,00.html

and also check the "Making Trumpets" video by Jens Lindemann on the site.

Bill

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[EF in FLA]

> Great horn. Check it out here
>
http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail/0,6373,CNTID%253D26667%2526CTID%253D551176,00.html
>

Yamaha has an amazing knack for making their horns look cheap and boring on
their website. Awful photos. It's a shame really......

ef

[Dave Stephens]

I've seen a couple on Ebay, in fact a friend bought an absolutely mint 8310Z
for $1000 even.

Dave

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[Robin Harris]

I am impressed and a little surprised that no one has yet said anything bad
about it.

I have seen the Jens Lindeman video, he seems a funny guy and a fantastic
player.

I have also seen the 8310z flash microsite advertisment which suggests that
it is the best trumpet ever made bar none - but then it would ...

Also I agree the yamaha site does not make the trumpets look very exciting,
the top line trumpets look exactly the same as the cheapest student model
but cost at least £1200 more.

I have searched ebay and other sites in vain for an 8310z - you can't even
find many 6310z's which perhaps, is another good thing.

Come on someone tell me something awful about it so I can get something
cheaper !!!!!!!!!!

Robin

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[Rich]

Apparently you have to spend wayyyy more money on your horn to get a good
web site to come with it.

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[EF in FLA]

> Also I agree the yamaha site does not make the trumpets look very
exciting,
> the top line trumpets look exactly the same as the cheapest student model
> but cost at least £1200 more.
>

I sent them a scolding email about their boring, plain, "here is a what a
trumpet looks like" photos. A website is a marketing tool, and especially
with the higher end trumpets theirs leaves a lot to be desired. At least
they have some multimedia on their site.

ef

[Edward Williams III]

I have been playing an 8310z for the past six months and it is a really
good horn, the problems arise when you play on the upper register of
the horn... i have a bit of a hitch when i get to the open e in the
top space, the horn tends to be a on the flat side of that partial...
other problems arise when getting up to high g's you have to muscle
them into a slot... i have a friend who has had some tweeks done the
horn to compensate. the 8310z is a good all around horn, but those are
the only problems i have encountered... someone let me know when they
invent a horn with valves that never stick....

edward

[Robin Harris]

Many thanks for your remarks, I did buy the 8310z, I find I am generally
sharp on the horn in all registers and have to pull the main tuning slide
all the way out to compensate - then it is fine.

Your comments about higher notes strike a chord (sorry) in my experience the
trumpet is very unforgiving, you have to get it right and if you don't the
horn makes an awful noise but if you do get it right it really sings. The
horn needs quite a lot of air I can understand why some suggest it is a
little stuffy if they only tried it in a shop for a few minutes.

My previous horn the 4320g was/is so much easier to play or much more
helpful - you can feel for a note and you will get it if you try that with
the 8310z you will sound terrible, however the 4320g can't compete tonally
(with the 8310z played well) even though it is itself a good sounding horn.

One other comment, I really did not get on with the supplied shew jazz
mouthpiece but I have quite small lips so get on well with wide rim small
cup mouthpieces such as the Rudy Muck 17c

regards

Robin

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