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Jeffrey Morris

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Nov 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/11/96
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I can't believe I've had this horn for five years (and it was my sister's
for several years as well) and never knew the third valve slide had a
slide of its own! Well, now I want to use this "spit slide", but the
thing's obviously never been moved in its life. What can I use to move
this? Can I soak it in some solution? Thanks,

______________________________
/Jeffrey Morris---------------./|
\Grand Valley State University|/|
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Tulsa Band Instruments

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Nov 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/11/96
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Jeffrey Morris wrote:
>
> I can't believe I've had this horn for five years (and it was my sister's
> for several years as well) and never knew the third valve slide had a
> slide of its own! Well, now I want to use this "spit slide", but the
> thing's obviously never been moved in its life. What can I use to move
> this? Can I soak it in some solution? Thanks,

I would recommend taking the horn to a competent repair place and have
them pull the slide. It will probably end up saving you money in the
long run...

--Donovan Bankhead
Tulsa Band Instruments, Inc.
mailto:Tul...@ionet.net
(918)252-1176

Raymond Johnston

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 10:42:02 -0500, Jeffrey Morris
<mor...@river.it.gvsu.edu> wrote:

>I can't believe I've had this horn for five years (and it was my sister's
>for several years as well) and never knew the third valve slide had a
>slide of its own! Well, now I want to use this "spit slide", but the
>thing's obviously never been moved in its life. What can I use to move
>this? Can I soak it in some solution? Thanks,
>

> ______________________________
> /Jeffrey Morris---------------./|
> \Grand Valley State University|/|
> ----------------------------//'
>

There are several different ways you might try to remove the stuck
slide. First, get a good penetrating oil and carefully work it into
the slide through the crack where the slide should come apart. If this
does not free this, put a hankercheif through the end of the slide and
hold the two ends of the hankerchief. Have a partner hold the horn
straight and you take the two ends and pull straight out. Not down,
up, or to the side, but straight out.Be sure to leave the valve in the
horn so as not to damage the casing. If this does not work, slightly
jerk the hankerchief straight out, not to the side or up and down. If
this still does not work, a small amount of heat as from a lighter on
the slide closest to the valve will help. Now lightly jerk on the
slide once again keeping it straight. If this does not work, it is
time to take it to a qualified shop so as not to cause any damage to
the horn.
hor...@wf.net


Neville Young

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Nov 14, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/14/96
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hor...@wf.net (Raymond Johnston) wrote:

[snip]

>hold the two ends of the hankerchief. Have a partner hold the horn
>straight and you take the two ends and pull straight out. Not down,
>up, or to the side, but straight out.

[snip]

Can I just add to this that if you do try it - and he's right, you
must recognize when to give up and take it to a repairer! - it is
ESSENTIAL that you put something to pad the bell, so that if the slide
suddenly comes free it doesn't just go DING and make a nasty little
dent! I've been there & done that and you mustn't!

Regards

Nev

Neville Young
nevi...@globalnet.co.uk

David Buxton

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Nov 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/15/96
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Regarding the idea of applying heat in the process of trying to remove
the stuck valve slide.

I recall the post to this newsgroup from somebody who decided to clean
his horn and placed it in the bath tub full of hot water. His brand new
laquer job floated to the surface of the water.


John Greenwalt

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Nov 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM11/16/96
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David is right. Unless you have a silver horn don't even consider heat.
Heat won't really help anyway. When I worked at a music store during
high school, we would use what is called Corosion Cracker. It is a
penatrating oil marketed by Feree's. Simply place a few drops at the
seam. Let it soak in. YOu can also give it some light taps with a
rawhide mallet. Try pulling it out. If it still doesn't come out, apply
more penetrating oil. Wait. Get a shoe lace. Thread it through the end
of the slide and give a few quick tugs. WARNING: use common sense when
doing this. If the slide is really stuck this method could pop
solder joints. If it doesn't seem to work, take it to a qualified repair
tech. They have other more drastic means to pull slides.
After the slide is pulled, clean the horn. The reason the slides
get stuck is because the owner doesn't clean their horn out. Clean and
lube all of the slide and you will never have this problem again.

John Greenwalt
Sop. Troopers Drum & Bugle Corps.
Purdue University


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