Monette Trumpets For Sale
Mike Thompson
$3000.00 SN 10 pre model no. Monette C Trp.This horn is a collectors horn.
Original Herseth model. It has been overhauled by Monette, including new
valves.
$6700.00 SN 1428 New Monette 973 C Trp. in brush gold. This is on of 2
Monette C Trps. that I own (I also own a Raja II) and I just don't need 2 C
trumpets. The new price is $7000.00 in gold. Feel free to make me an
offer.
$3500.00 SN 973 Standard model Monette Eb Trp. Raw brass, great high
register, big sound. Comes with a E1-2 Mpc.
A matched pair of 937's
* $6500.00 Monette C937 trumpet. SN 1155. Comes with leather Monette double
bag (click to see picture), a second slightly shorter tuning crook
(un-plated),
Mouthpieces: C12D 10 throat, C11 10 throat, C11 13 throat, C11X, (all 3
weights).
* $6350.00 SN 1145 Monette B937 trumpet. Comes with a custom made
anvil-type case which was $400 new (click to see picture). This instrument
is in perfect playing condition. There is moderate wear between first and
second valves where my thumb rests, and on the second valve slide.
Mouthpieces: B12D - 3 weight, B2D - 3weight, B2FL - 2 weight.937 Bb Trp. in
Gold.
* Buy the pair for $11200.00 including a Monette Double Case.
$4100.00 Monette STC 2 Model Bb Trp. - This horn is in very good
condition, and has a easy high range. (Raw brass) Nice sound!
$8000.00 SN 1317 Monette Ajna I Bb Trp. Gold is worn alittle. Great price
for an Anja I
For information e-mail me at m...@mitec.net or call (402) 573-1339
Mike Thompson
$3000.00 SN 10 pre model no. Monette C Trp.This horn is a collectors horn.
Original Herseth model. It has been overhauled by Monette, including new
valves.
$6700.00 SN 1428 New Monette 973 C Trp. in brush gold. This is on of 2
Monette C Trps. that I own (I also own a Raja II) and I just don't need 2 C
trumpets. The new price is $7000.00 in gold. Feel free to make me an
offer.
$3500.00 SN 973 Standard model Monette Eb Trp. Raw brass, great high
register, big sound. Comes with a E1-2 Mpc.
A matched pair of 937's
* $6500.00 Monette C937 trumpet. SN 1155. Comes with leather Monette double
bag, a second slightly shorter tuning crook
(un-plated),
Mouthpieces: C12D 10 throat, C11 10 throat, C11 13 throat, C11X, (all 3
weights).
* $6350.00 SN 1145 Monette B937 trumpet. Comes with a custom made
anvil-type case which was $400 new. This instrument
Mike Thompson
pppepe
Virtuoso2B
new valves are light years ahead. I'm sure hey didn't NEED to be replaced, but
the new ones probably helped quite a bit. Just a note. I'm not too sure how
many people know that about the Monette horns. A bit of trivia for everyone.
:-)
Matthew
Dr. Trumpet
<pe...@pipeline.com> wrote:
When David first started making instruments, it was difficult to get all
of the parts to make valves, and all of the fittings, etc. So, he
contracted out the manufacturing of valve clusters to (I think, it has
been a long time) Blessing. The valves Blessing made were, for the most
part, not good. Most owners of Monettes from this time have the valve
cluster replaced with the ones David is selling now, which are quite
good. It is not a matter of wear, as much as the parts originally
available for David to use do not meet his current standards, and were
lacking in quality. Some of the older horns do have fine valves, but a
common remedy for a horn from this era often involves preplacement of the
valves and refit to current tolerances, which enhances the old horn a lot.
Dr. Trumpet
virtu...@aol.com (Virtuoso2B) wrote:
Matthew,
As Olds had gone out of business by this time (or at least the Olds we
know), I am almost certain they were NOT Olds valves. Additionally,
Blessing valve parts fit the older horns.
FWIW,
AL
mat...@pinn.net
Dr. Trumpet wrote:
Just goes to show ya. If this is indeed accurate, it's great to know that
the original purchasers of these instruments were paying mega bucks for a set
of Blessing valves. Thanks Monette for inflating the price of all trumpets for
all of us.
Rob D
Dr. Trumpet
<mat...@pinn.net> wrote:
> Just goes to show ya. If this is indeed accurate, it's great to know that
> the original purchasers of these instruments were paying mega bucks for a set
> of Blessing valves. Thanks Monette for inflating the price of all
trumpets for
> all of us.
>
> Rob D
Rob,
Back in this period of time, the instruments were in the $2000 range,
about double that of a Bach at the time, and a little more than 1/3 more
than a Schilke or a Calicchio. These valves, whie certainly one part of
the horn, are not the only thing that made up the instrument. The bell,
hand spun by Monette: the leadpipe was also done the same way, as was the
tuning crook, and all other parts. In fact, the Blessing valves were just
"parts". David had to do all of the bore work and fitting after the parts
were received. Aside from the fact that these valves (the piston part)
were made at Blessing in terms of basic assembly, the real work at fitting
those valves to the clusters was still done by Monette.
Currently, the valves are made by Monette, but the parts are the same as
those used by Getzen. Does it mean the current Monette is a glorified
Getzen? Heavens, no. In fact, the piston is the only thing we are talking
about in any of this. The casing and the rest of the cluster was and still
is assembled at Monette.
The piston was at the time the only thing that was Blessing, and only in
the most broad sense was it so. In terms of fit and speed due to final
preparation, they were Monette. And, MANY of the valves from that period
of time have stood the test of time. I know of no less than 50 horn made
in that time where the pistons have never been replaced and work great.
David currently install the Raja 5 1/4" bell on the new Classic horns
(the form 61X and 149XL), but that doesn mean the old bell was bad?
Again, no. They are just an evolution of the instrument making, and from
my experience, make the newer instruments far superior to the old ones.
Just because any custom instrument manufactur choses a secondary supplier
of parts for their instruments does not mean that the instrument is
question is in any way related to the original parts supplier, no more
than the tail lights the Ford plants make for GM cars makes the Buick my
parents drive a Ford. (The outsourcing of parts is common at GM, and
frequently a friend of mine that works at a Ford plant made more tail
lights for GM products than for Ford products. Of course, the final car
still said GM on it....)
FWIW, Blackburn also contracts out the valve work to another manufacturer,
who shall remain nameless. I know who it is, but would rather not see
Cliff bashed here as well.
AL
mat...@pinn.net
Dr. Trumpet wrote:
> In article <36D2C2ED...@pinn.net>, "mat...@pinn.net"
> <mat...@pinn.net> wrote:
>
> > Just goes to show ya. If this is indeed accurate, it's great to know that
> > the original purchasers of these instruments were paying mega bucks for a set
> > of Blessing valves. Thanks Monette for inflating the price of all
> trumpets for
> > all of us.
> >
> > Rob D
>
> Rob,
>
> Back in this period of time, the instruments were in the $2000 range,
> about double that of a Bach at the time, and a little more than 1/3 more
> than a Schilke or a Calicchio. These valves, whie certainly one part of
> the horn, are not the only thing that made up the instrument. The bell,
> hand spun by Monette: the leadpipe was also done the same way, as was the
> tuning crook, and all other parts.
Yes, Al, I know.
Monette makes his bells just like Schilke, Bach, Calicchio, Yamaha do.. Hand
spun. Just because some dude named Monette does it doesn't make it any more
valuable. He still uses a mandrel that any other craftsman could use and make an
identical bell with. Basically all trumpets are made in the same manner. A lot of
"hand" work is involved with making brasswind instruments. There is very little
difference between the mfg methods of trumpet makers for the last five decades with
the exception of increasing use of computer aided machinery in a few operations.
They ALL get soldered together by hand.
> In fact, the Blessing valves were just
> "parts". David had to do all of the bore work and fitting after the parts
> were received. Aside from the fact that these valves (the piston part)
> were made at Blessing in terms of basic assembly, the real work at fitting
> those valves to the clusters was still done by Monette.
>
Just like at the aforementioned manufacturers. They all fit the parts together,
and they all do it the same way.
> Currently, the valves are made by Monette, but the parts are the same as
> those used by Getzen. Does it mean the current Monette is a glorified
> Getzen? Heavens, no. In fact, the piston is the only thing we are talking
> about in any of this. The casing and the rest of the cluster was and still
> is assembled at Monette.
> The piston was at the time the only thing that was Blessing, and only in
> the most broad sense was it so. In terms of fit and speed due to final
> preparation, they were Monette. And, MANY of the valves from that period
> of time have stood the test of time. I know of no less than 50 horn made
> in that time where the pistons have never been replaced and work great.
>
They should >all< still work for that kinda money.
> David currently install the Raja 5 1/4" bell on the new Classic horns
> (the form 61X and 149XL), but that doesn mean the old bell was bad?
> Again, no. They are just an evolution of the instrument making, and from
> my experience, make the newer instruments far superior to the old ones.
>
> Just because any custom instrument manufactur choses a secondary supplier
> of parts for their instruments does not mean that the instrument is
> question is in any way related to the original parts supplier, no more
> than the tail lights the Ford plants make for GM cars makes the Buick my
> parents drive a Ford. (The outsourcing of parts is common at GM, and
> frequently a friend of mine that works at a Ford plant made more tail
> lights for GM products than for Ford products. Of course, the final car
> still said GM on it....)
>
>
Agreed, Al. My point is that aquiring third party parts should lower costs. I
guarrantee that Monette went to Blessing because they could supply him with what he
needed at the BEST PRICE.. Isn't that the bottom line reason anyone uses them??
The only reason any trumpet should cost more than any one else's horn is:
a. Does it cost more to make? Maybe, if it's a small operation and the production
numbers are low. I know it's expensive to build and maintain a manufacturing
facility, but that is not related to the actual value of the product.
In regard to the real high end horns (the ones that look like '57 Buicks [sorry ;
)]). I can see a slightly higher price for the difficulties in making a horn with
the tricky processes involved (integral mouthpiece, more joinery and stamping), but
not 8 grand.
b. Is it truly custom made to fit the player? I see this term thrown around a lot,
but in truth, NO ONE makes a truly "custom" -that is made especially to an
individual player's needs- instrument. I have seen Monette's order form, it is
very superficial in terms of getting to know the customer. After all, he has
"models" just like everyone else. If they were custom, there would be no "models",
just a lot of individual horns out there, with greatly reduced resale value due to
the fact that any given horn would have been made for someone else, not the second
owner. I will give him credit for at least giving the appearance of making a
custom instrument. In the old days, Dominick Calicchio would listen to you, then
booger around with your horn until you liked it. That is customizing.
c. Is there a significant amount of hype surrounding the instrument? Yes in the
case of Monette, but let me say I respect your opinion and anyone's right to pay
for and play anything they want. Sorry, Al, I have never played but one Monette I
would own (but only at a reasonable price), so I am coming from a personal
viewpoint. No one on earth can convince me that an 8 thousand dollar horn plays 4
TIMES better than my 2 thousand dollar horn does. If it played 25% better I'd
shell out the cash.
> FWIW, Blackburn also contracts out the valve work to another manufacturer,
> who shall remain nameless. I know who it is, but would rather not see
> Cliff bashed here as well.
>
And Blackburn's prices although high, are considerably more mainstream. Also
remember Jerry Callet's first efforts. DEG parts all the way except for lead pipe
and bell. Quite inexpensive, too. Point being that if he targeted legit players,
was the first person to eschew laquer and make "ugly" horns, Charged $2,000, got
Bud to play 'em for a little while before returning to Bach, maybe he would be
making an eight thousand dollar gold plated jewel encrusted trumpet now (I wonder
if the type of gemstone affects the sound?!). I guarrantee Monettes's costs were
no higher than Callet's in those days. Maybe lower, since he was out of Chicago,
and Jerry was in NY. I visited Dave in Chicago and got the full spiel. Some of
what he said made sense to me, some I though was juju (like "I don't clean solder
runs, if affects the sound!"), and after I played a couple of truly horrible horns
he had just made, it made a slightly difficult to erase impression on me.
Hey Al, play the horn if you want, I'm not saying they aren't good now. I just
think that Monette is a bit full of himself and the basic point I was trying to
make was the impact he has had on pricing of instruments in the industry. We just
agree to disagree (again!) I'll take the $6K I saved by not buying a Monette and
put it toward my daughter's education.
Rob
Rantsequence ended. Donning asbestos suit.
Dr. Trumpet
<mat...@pinn.net> wrote:
> Hey Al, play the horn if you want, I'm not saying they aren't good now.
I just
> think that Monette is a bit full of himself and the basic point I was
trying to
> make was the impact he has had on pricing of instruments in the
industry. We just
> agree to disagree (again!) I'll take the $6K I saved by not buying a
Monette and
> put it toward my daughter's education.
>
> Rob
>
> Rantsequence ended. Donning asbestos suit.
Rob,
No need to on asbestos suit. I certainly see what you're saying, and
won't argue with your well written and informative points. I agree with
the above also, that Bach, Kanstul, et. al. can thank David for extending
the price of the trumpet to new heights.
At a little over $5000 for the horn, my Monette C is a steal. I had a
Yamalone before that (in fact I still own it, for now), but was never
completely satisfied with that instrument (too stuffy, even with an MC 2
and a rounded tuning crook). I had a Bach 229L C trumpet for 11 years
before the Yamalone, and never, ever got it to play like I wanted. The
Monette instrument does it for me. Maybe not you, and if I sound as
though I am saying the instruments are for everyone, I'm not. Different
instrument work for different people.
And, if I had a daughter's education to pay for (my wife and I have not
been yet blessed with children, but we are hoping!) , I might too consider
the expense too much to pay.
The thing I like with you Rob is that, in essence, we discuss different
points of view without (I hope I never come aross as attacking-not my
intent) attacking one another, and that the NG gets to concise and well
articulated viewpoints. For this, I thank you for being a gentleman and a
fair discussion partner.
Best wishes,
Al
BTW, what model Calicchio do you own? I recently got the chance to play a
1S2 that was just outstanding, and I may look into one of those sometime
soon.
Howard Peirce
> The only reason any trumpet should cost more than any one else's horn is:
>
> a. Does it cost more to make? <snip>
>
> b. Is it truly custom made to fit the player? <snip>
>
> c. Is there a significant amount of hype surrounding the instrument? <snip>
Not taking sides, but there is a fourth factor in determining cost, and that's the
cost of R&D. Having known Monette briefly when he was building prototypes in his
basement in Bloomington, Indiana, I would say that's a significant factor in the cost
of his horns. For every design element now incorporated into his horns, there were
hundreds of designs discarded.
Schilke, too, is famous for their R&D, although their significantly larger operation
helped them absorb some of those costs. And I can remember when Schilkes were among
the most expensive horns widely available--at least in part because of their research
and development costs.
HP
mat...@pinn.net
Dr. Trumpet wrote:
> In article <36D2E2A1...@pinn.net>, "mat...@pinn.net"
> <mat...@pinn.net> wrote:
>
> > Hey Al, play the horn if you want, I'm not saying they aren't good now.
> I just
> > think that Monette is a bit full of himself and the basic point I was
> trying to
> > make was the impact he has had on pricing of instruments in the
> industry. We just
> > agree to disagree (again!) I'll take the $6K I saved by not buying a
> Monette and
> > put it toward my daughter's education.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > Rantsequence ended. Donning asbestos suit.
>
Al,
Thanks for the comments. You never come across as anything but fair minded.
I have two 1S2's that I love. I've had one in 24k gold for years, and was
lucky enough to stumble across another one (silver plate) that was a few years
older for 400 bucks! Both are Bob Reeves aligned. I also use his 42S Dynamic
Mass mouthpiece. I hope to soon own the Calicchio Flugel; thinking about
selling a couple of horns on E Bay. I have a 1950's French Besson Meha and a
Bach 183 flugelhorn I'd let go of to allow for the purchase of the Calicchio
flug.
I also recommend having a kid. My life has taken on new meaning since she
popped into the scene 15 months ago even though I'm 44 years old. Just call
me Tony Randall Jr. She is just terrific!
Rob D
USNMU
I've been lucky enough to play on this sucker...SWEET! Since I'm not allowed
to call him Rob, I'll just stick with calling him Chief Rob. I had a lesson
with Chief Rob once and he was nice enough to let me blow a few notes on this
golden horn. Aside from being a lot lighter than I'm used to (I play heavy
wall Yamahas), it was an absolutely lovely horn. Alas, since I am not a
jazz/commercial player like Chief Rob, I had no use for a horn like that, but
if I were a jazzer, rest assured I'd have one in my arsenal!
I also noticed mention of a Yamalone that is not being used....hmmm...care to
part with it?? I can't afford to send mine down to Bob as of yet but if it's
gold and has the MC2 like I like....hmmm. Maybe I'm just dreaming! :-)
Anyway, I enjoy this list a bit more than the tpin at times, it's not as wishy
washy.
I've played on many Monette trumpets and I like them very much. For me they
have no practical use, I'm not an orchestral player anymore and if I were to
use one of the 900 series I'd bury my band because it's not a 150 piece
orchestra. Maybe one of the old Chicago models would work, but for now my
Yammy's work perfectly well for the applications in which I use them...but
I'still like that Malone conversion for them all!
Well, this has turned into a broken topic post so I'll stop now!
All the Best,
John
cs_po...@hotmail.com
> Monette makes his bells just like Schilke, Bach, Calicchio, Yamaha do.. Hand
> spun. Just because some dude named Monette does it doesn't make it any more
> valuable. He still uses a mandrel that any other craftsman could use and
make an
> identical bell with. Basically all trumpets are made in the same manner. A
lot of
> "hand" work is involved with making brasswind instruments. There is very
little
> difference between the mfg methods of trumpet makers for the last five
decades with
> the exception of increasing use of computer aided machinery in a few
operations.
> They ALL get soldered together by hand.
That's not really true. There are several alternatives for most steps in the
process of making a brass instrument, each of which has tradeoffs in cost and
real or perceived tradeoffs in performance. For example, bells flairs can be
spun and attached to a seperately made stem (cheap 2 piece), hammered with
some hand work and finish spun (usual 1 piece) or hand worked all the way
through final burnishing (mostly confined to natural trumpet makers). Seams
in bells and the like can be brazed with several different alloys or welded.
Seams in the area of the valve cluster can be hand brazed with a torch, or
just packed with a ground mix of brazing alloy and flux and popped in an
oven. Valves can be individually fit with carefully selected washers, or
just get standard one-size-fits-all felts. Tubes can be bent by hand or
hydroformed in dies. Bell bows can be bent with metal alloys or ice as a
filler. Lots of choices, lots of opinions, lots of different costs.
And then there is the whole issue of individual attention from a craftsman, vs
assembly line labor by workers trained to perform only a single task.
But of course the difference in cost doesn't approach the difference in price.
Chris Stratton - Engineer, Instrument Maker & Horn Player
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mat...@pinn.net
cs_po...@hotmail.com wrote:
> > Monette makes his bells just like Schilke, Bach, Calicchio, Yamaha do.. Hand
> > spun. Just because some dude named Monette does it doesn't make it any more
> > They ALL get soldered together by hand.
>
> That's not really true. There are several alternatives for most steps in the
> process of making a brass instrument, each of which has tradeoffs in cost and
<sniped to save poor tortured mouse fingers>
> And then there is the whole issue of individual attention from a craftsman, vs
> assembly line labor by workers trained to perform only a single task.
>
> But of course the difference in cost doesn't approach the difference in price.
>
Chris,
Thanks for your very knowledgable post, obviously you have seen a lot more trumpet
building situations than I. A couple of points though. Even though as you stated,
there are lots of different ways to build, I think the point I made is still
valid. Bells are spun on a mandrel. Whether 1 or 2 piece. Maybe not a natural
tpt, but that's not what I was talking about.
I'm pretty sure that the "pro level" manufacturers I mentioned pretty much cut,
bend, and solder the same way. Some may use pitch, some ice. These details are
not on point.
Valve spacers probably are uniform one size fits all, since the manufacturers I
mentioned probably believe in the consistency of their own processes.
When I visited the old Schilke factory on S. Wabash in Chicago, each step was
performed by a different individual on each machine. Only final assembly was done
by one of two men on duty that day. One guy fired a ball bearing through a huge
basket of second valve slides all day. Another dude sat in the dark with a huge
torch, annealing tubing (in the dark to see the metal "cherry up") all day.
Another guy was shoving knuckles into valve casings all day. Yet Schilke is of
extremely high quality. I was actually surprised to see the "assembly line"
mentality there, but truly, that's the way you get consistency, right?
I just don't think Monette's horns are made much differently, and I'll piss off
even mone Monettophiles here, I don't even think many more man hours go into his
conventional horns... So the question still remains, where's the justification for
the high price beyond a big margin of profit? I have yet to hear a good reason
beyond that.
My old Calicchio has three (slightly) different length pistons, three different
height valve caps, and had little rings of extra tubing inside two of the valve
slides, and a lot of crooked assed stuff on it, but it plays very well, especially
after I had a Reeves alignment on it. Now, I would wager that horn was made by
considerably fewer individuals than a Schilke, Bach, or Yamadog, and probably took
longer to build, but it didn't cost enough to have to hock your Mother In Law's
Hudson Hornet to pay for it when it was new.
Once again, though, play what you sound and feel good on.
Thanks
Rob D
USNMU
>even mone Monettophiles here
(As I sit choking on my pizza)
Sheesh Rob, I thought we were friends!! You really think of me in such a
derogatory way?? :-)
> Yamadog
Again, another knock to me! I love my Yammys!!
>Once again, though, play what you sound and feel good on.
Nice way to cover! If you know Chuck Mander he'd say...Nice Way to Bover your
Cooty!
All the Best in Good Humor!
John
Lawrence Van Ameyde
LV
Dr. Trumpet wrote:
>
> In article <36D2E2A1...@pinn.net>, "mat...@pinn.net"
> <mat...@pinn.net> wrote:
>
> > Hey Al, play the horn if you want, I'm not saying they aren't good now.
> I just
> > think that Monette is a bit full of himself and the basic point I was
> trying to
> > make was the impact he has had on pricing of instruments in the
> industry. We just
> > agree to disagree (again!) I'll take the $6K I saved by not buying a
> Monette and
> > put it toward my daughter's education.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > Rantsequence ended. Donning asbestos suit.
>
Lawrence Van Ameyde
Sorry to butt in, but could you tell us a little about this Reeves mpc., I'm
kind of curious. What makes it different(other than the big price tag!).
LV
I also use his 42S Dynamic
> Mass mouthpiece.
> Rob D
Donovan Bankhead
>
I've had a Calicchio in my possession for about a month now, and I can
safely say that this is an incredible lead horn. I love the sound I get,
and the response is incredible! The best part is that Calicchio has lowered
the price, and the horns can be had for $1800, which is a steal for this
horn...
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EarleSlick
>Not taking sides, but there is a fourth factor in determining cost, and
>that's the
>cost of R&D. Having known Monette briefly when he was building >prototypes in
his
>basement in Bloomington, Indiana, I would say that's a significant factor >in
the cost
>of his horns. For every design element now incorporated into his horns, >there
were
>hundreds of designs discarded.
Fair point.. and R&D could be especially crippling for a small business. I'm
not taking sides either, but another factor that I'm surprised hasn't been
mentioned is the fact that a business can live or die by its endorsements. The
celebrity endorsement could mean the difference between selling many thousands
of these horns and tooling around in virtual black hole obscurity forever.
Monette's endorsors have been nothing less than stellar; So, I would assume,
are the costs of those endorsements. I know what some of you are thinking and
I'll save you the post by acknowledging that Wynton and others of that caliber
would never stick their neck out with an inferior horn, but that aside, I would
think, like many "boutique" enterprises, there's a bit of "let's see just what
the market will _really_ bear" behind that price tag. Personally, I'm one of
those people who will enthusiastically pay $1700 for a Zegna suit. I already
KNOW it's not worth THAT much, hand stitching and all, but it's a funny thing;
there's a certain "something" about them that I haven't found elsewhere and
now it's too late to compromise, because I'm hooked. I should assume from all
I've seen, heard and read, that owning a Monette horn is probably something
like that. I bet we can all relate to this personal phenomenon in one way or
another, and criticizing someone for electing to pay for that very personal
satisfaction is probably hypocritical.///earl slick
all content is my opinion
mat...@pinn.net
Lawrence Van Ameyde wrote:
Lawrence,
I was extremely fortunate to be part of the beta testing of this mouthpiece when
it was developed by Bob Reeves. It is a two piece unit; rim and underpart.
Available in a variety of cup depths (not too sure about the line up at this
time but when I was testing, I was sent S, C, and D underparts. The rims are
the same standard Reeves diameters and contours. The Dynamic Mass 'piece is not
a heavy mouthpiece, but is precisely configured weight- wise to match all the
variables of each model, and the shank length is also different for each
particular model. Backbores are not user configurable, as this spec is also
part of the overall marriage of variables. The rim threads are "quick 32" that
enables it to be removed/replaced with about 1 turn. I have found mine to be
quite efficient and the sound satisfies me. I feel it is a big improvement over
the old models, and I recommend trying one to anybody who previously found
Reeves mouthpieces to be stuffy or unsatisfactory for any other reason. They
are expensive @ $198.00. Extra rims are $83.95 and underparts are $124.95. As
a beta tester, I got a deal, but it still wasn't a giveaway by any stretch.
Bob Reeves has taken a good bit of my money for various services (alignments,
mouthpieces, accessories) but so far, all the expenditures have been worth it.
Having talked to him at length about trumpet stuff, I have found him to be hype
-free and sincerely devoted to making life easier for trumpet players.
Rob D
Matt Carey
> think, like many "boutique" enterprises, there's a bit of "let's see just what
> the market will _really_ bear" behind that price tag. Personally, I'm one of
> those people who will enthusiastically pay $1700 for a Zegna suit. I already
> KNOW it's not worth THAT much, hand stitching and all, but it's a funny thing;
> there's a certain "something" about them that I haven't found elsewhere and
> now it's too late to compromise, because I'm hooked.
Is this the same Earl who bought his Severeinsen trumpet used, his Benge
flugel at a pittance and wouldn't pay too dearly for a Victor Cornet?
Not that I am keeping track...but I figure all three of those together
were less than the $1700 that suit cost. For the price of a Monette you
probably could have about 30 horns in your price range.
Just a thought...
Matt
Dr. Trumpet
> Is this the same Earl who bought his Severeinsen trumpet used, his Benge
> flugel at a pittance and wouldn't pay too dearly for a Victor Cornet?
> Not that I am keeping track...but I figure all three of those together
> were less than the $1700 that suit cost. For the price of a Monette you
> probably could have about 30 horns in your price range.
>
> Just a thought...
>
> Matt
Mat,
While were into gross exagerations, that would mean a Monette trumpet
would cost $17000. There are instruments that cost that much, but to be
honest, most of the catalog runs more in the $5000-$10000 range. That
would only be three to six suits, or 10-20 instruments.
I own that many, but I can guarantee that none of them cost more than the
Monette did, and to be honest, none of the $400 play as well.
To each their own-live and let live-different strokes for different folks-
But, man Earl, a $1700 suit???? :-))))
AL
EarleSlick
>But, man Earl, a $1700 suit???? :-))))
>AL
C'mon guys.... they're _really_ nice suits; and like David Lee Roth
says...."It's better to look good than to feel good"///earl slick
EarleSlick
>flugel at a pittance and wouldn't pay too dearly for a Victor Cornet?
>Not that I am keeping track...but I figure all three of those together
>were less than the $1700 that suit cost. For the price of a Monette you
>probably could have about 30 horns in your price range.
>Just a thought...
>Matt
I should have seen this coming ;) It wasn't like I was banging on someone's
door like a short changed Chinese take out guy for those horns....We met by
accident and were meant to be together. That guy _wanted_ me to have them at
that price. And regarding the suits; just a few years ago I thought a
pret-a-porter was where French construction guys went to the bathroom, so you
never know what profound discovery is going to bite you in the ass out of
nowhere. (Again, that's probably how it is with those Monettes) But as long
as this is "my thing", let me share a couple of valuable fashion tips that kept
me afloat until I fell into the suit thing in a big way:
1. Never wear a Budweiser cap with a Miller T-shirt....make a commitment
2. When you're using a magic marker to cover up that giant hole in your socks,
try to make sure the magic marker is more or less the same color.///earl slick
Matt Carey
>
> > were less than the $1700 that suit cost. For the price of a Monette you
> > probably could have about 30 horns in your price range.
> >
> > Just a thought...
> >
> > Matt
>
>
> While were into gross exagerations, that would mean a Monette trumpet
> would cost $17000. There are instruments that cost that much, but to be
> honest, most of the catalog runs more in the $5000-$10000 range. That
> would only be three to six suits, or 10-20 instruments.
>
> I own that many, but I can guarantee that none of them cost more than the
> Monette did, and to be honest, none of the $400 play as well.
>
> To each their own-live and let live-different strokes for different folks-
>
>
Hey,
I was just figuring that Earl's current tastes seem to be towards $300
horns. I find it interesting that a man could get addicted to $1700
suits and $300 horns.
From Earl's note:
"C'mon guys.... they're _really_ nice suits; and like David Lee Roth
says...."It's better to look good than to feel good"///earl slick"
Perhaps it should be:
"It is better for me to look good than my horn".
Definitely not the attitude of a Monette-a-phile.
Matt
EarleSlick
Dr. Trumpet wrote:
>
> >> were less than the $1700 that suit cost. For the price of a Monette you
> >> probably could have about 30 horns in your price range.
> >>
> >> Just a thought...
> >
>> > Matt
>
> Mat,
>
>> While were into gross exagerations, that would mean a Monette trumpet
>> would cost $17000. There are instruments that cost that much, but to be
> >honest, most of the catalog runs more in the $5000-$10000 range. That
> would only be three to six suits, or 10-20 instruments.
>
>> I own that many, but I can guarantee that none of them cost more than the
> >Monette did, and to be honest, none of the $400 play as well.
>
> >To each their own-live and let live-different strokes for different folks-
>
> >But, man Earl, a $1700 suit???? :-))))
>
Matt wrote:
>Hey,
>I was just figuring that Earl's current tastes seem to be towards $300
>horns. I find it interesting that a man could get addicted to $1700
>suits and $300 horns.
>From Earl's note:
>"C'mon guys.... they're _really_ nice suits; and like David Lee Roth
>says...."It's better to look good than to feel good"///earl slick"
Matt wrote:
>Perhaps it should be:
>"It is better for me to look good than my horn".
>Definitely not the attitude of a Monette-a-phile.
Let's not stray off topic now.......Those were respectable "$300.00" horns
(Anaheim Benge flugel, 1977 Severinson Eterna) in excellent condition with
handsome hard cases. Again, the guy insisted I buy them at that price...what
could I do??? ...and remember, the $10,000 Monette and $1700 suit situation is
really nothing extraordinary; some guys will actually pay money to have
somebody suck the fat out of their stomach and inject it into their penis. And
you know what it costs???..... It costs $8,741 and twenty six cents....worth
every penney. ;) ///earl slick
Bryan Fields
Lawrence Van Ameyde
while. I have a friend that has one, but he couldn't really explain the
differences between the DM mpcs and the standards.
LV
Dr. Trumpet
earle...@aol.com (EarleSlick) wrote:
> Let's not stray off topic now.......Those were respectable "$300.00" horns
> (Anaheim Benge flugel, 1977 Severinson Eterna) in excellent condition with
> handsome hard cases. Again, the guy insisted I buy them at that price...what
> could I do??? ...and remember, the $10,000 Monette and $1700 suit
situation is
> really nothing extraordinary; some guys will actually pay money to have
> somebody suck the fat out of their stomach and inject it into their
penis. And
> you know what it costs???..... It costs $8,741 and twenty six cents....worth
> every penney. ;) ///earl slick
>
>
> all content is my opinion
Earl,
Man, first the Partidge Family comment a few weeks ago, and then theo
other one that escapes me right now and now this....I frankly think you
have a MAJOR future as a comedy writer. I laughed so hard I fell off the
chair.
AL