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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Mar 26, 2003, 1:33:21 PM3/26/03
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Please pray for my cousin Chris Grasruck in the U.S.Army.
Chris is like a brother to me.
Chris left yesterday for Fort Lee, VA. He went with the 445th QM Co,
he is a Sergeant E5.  He will be in the VA for a little bit for some
training and processing, then it sounds as if he will leave for
Kuwait. 

Dr. Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

******

Tom King

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Mar 26, 2003, 10:08:51 PM3/26/03
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We pray for all soldiers including Iraqi solders. We, including you,
got to forgive everybody.

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William E. Graham

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Mar 26, 2003, 10:55:33 PM3/26/03
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"Tom King" <hornz...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by
the
>Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of
>empire building by George Bush.
>
>He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent
>many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for
freedom
>beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
>return is enough to bury those that did not return."
>
>It became very quiet in the room.

Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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Mar 26, 2003, 11:44:14 PM3/26/03
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Amen.


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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> We pray for all soldiers including Iraqi solders. We, including you,
> got to forgive everybody.
***
Re:
Well, if the Iraqi soldiers are fighting for Saddam I pray they will give up.
If they are shooting at our soldiers, hell is too good for them.

Mikey Schmidt

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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> >When in England at a fairly large conference, Colin Powell was asked by
> the
> >Archbishop of Canterbury if our plans for Iraq were just an example of
> >empire building by George Bush.
> >
> >He answered by saying that, "Over the years, the United States has sent
> >many of its fine young men and women into great peril to fight for
> freedom
> >beyond our borders. The only amount of land we have ever asked for in
> >return is enough to bury those that did not return."
> >
> >It became very quiet in the room.

Re:
I have been to Luxembourg where many of our soldiers and Patton are burried.

It is quiet there too.

May we never forget the lives that were lost for freedom.

Mikey
www.trumpetofthelord.com

Iain Mclachlan

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Mar 27, 2003, 4:39:31 PM3/27/03
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Hey, I'm by no means a religious person, but from what I've heard of hell, I
wouldn't wish it on anyone - not even our little friend Saddam. I'd rather
have him live forever and see him suffer publicly (In captivity like some
caged animal) than see him dead and be uncertain about his punishment.

We all have our own lives and lines of work. Well, so do the Iraqi
soldiers. There's just happens to be a very tragic and fatal profession.
Think yourself lucky you weren't born an Iraqi under the current regime. I
do.
I live in New Zealand (although not for long). But I call this place home,
and to me it's the greatest place in the world (you might even agree if
you've been here). I'm sure thats what a lot of Iraqis think of their home
too.

Just thinking out loud

Iain -iii-<

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Tom King

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Mar 27, 2003, 10:49:59 PM3/27/03
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You have to love them. You have to forgive them no matter what. If you
do not forgive them, God will not forgive you. We, including you, are
not sinless.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> You have to love them. You have to forgive them no matter what. If you
> do not forgive them, God will not forgive you. We, including you, are
> not sinless.
*******
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But unlike SADDAMS soldiers I am not EVIL.I am a sinner saved by
grace, but I am not evil. These workers of Saddam (Sadom) and the
Devil are wicked and they remain an evil force and power that must and
will be stopped and punished for their evil malicious actions. THEY ,
Jaheed Muslims are the cause of this war and of much suffering, NOT
our honorable President George W. Bush and our troops.They are morally
bad people and if they are shooting at our fighters for freedom and
peace they need to be shot and killed.They have tortured and murdered
innocent people.They have murdered, killed, threatened and tortured
children.Jesus said in Mark chapter nine that it would be better for
them to tie themselves to a millstone and throw themselves into the
bottom of the ocean than for them to face the Great White Throne
judgement (Rev. 20) that awaits them.
These evildoers will not be forgiven by Jesus, they will suffer
forever where Jesus said the worms eat their rot forever and the fire
is never quinched, or never stops burning.

Just so you know, forgiveness in the Bible only follows repentance and
confession.If these workers of satan do not put down their arms,
surrender , repent and confess their sins we as Americans are under no
biblical obligation to forgive them , God will punish them, not offer
them additional grace, not everyone will receive Gods grace and
mercy, and if the die without confession and repentance, like it or
not the Bible does not teach that they will or can receive
forgiveness.Only the Latter Day Saints believe that a person can die
lost and still become saved and baptised, this is not a belief of
evangelicalism .The belief that all people will be saved is called
universalism, and Universalism is rejected by both the Catholic and
Protestant church.

Mikey

I got your high note baby.

Eagles fly alone.

www.trumpetofthelord.com

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DizzysBluz

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Mar 28, 2003, 2:19:38 PM3/28/03
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<<<THEY , Jaheed [Jihad?] Muslims are the cause of this war and of much

suffering, NOT our honorable President George W. Bush and our troops.They are
morally
bad people and if they are shooting at our fighters for freedom and peace they
need to be shot and killed.>>>

Just another proof that fanatical fundamentalism breeds hatred.

DizzysBluz

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Mar 28, 2003, 2:26:00 PM3/28/03
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<<<<They are morally bad people and if they are shooting at our fighters for
freedom and peace they
need to be shot and killed.>>>>

who are 'they' and how do you know they are morally bad people? do you happen
to know them all personally???

this is truly one of the most idiotic statements i've read anywhere on the
internet (and i've read a few doozies). WE are invading a sovereign country. WE
are the foreign aggressors/occupiers.

How would you feel if the US were invaded by a foreign army because they didn't
agree with our foreign affairs policy???

You are not only a closed-minded religious zealot, you are a complete moron.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Mar 28, 2003, 2:57:28 PM3/28/03
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"Iain Mclachlan" <iainmc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3e836da1$1...@news.nz.asiaonline.net>...

> Hey, I'm by no means a religious person, but from what I've heard of hell, I
> wouldn't wish it on anyone - not even our little friend Saddam. I'd rather
> have him live forever and see him suffer publicly (In captivity like some
> caged animal) than see him dead and be uncertain about his punishment.
>
> We all have our own lives and lines of work. Well, so do the Iraqi
> soldiers. There's just happens to be a very tragic and fatal profession.
***
Re:
Lets take a closer look at what the Bible says about Justice.
I would rather share with you what the word of God says about Justice
than to just give my own opinion, because in the flesh I am ready to
fight for my country right now, I am ready to take up arms and join my
cousin Chris and shoot anyone trying to kill him.I once tried to join
the Army but I failed the physical (at MEPS)due to high blood
pressure, but let me say if Uncle Sam changes his mind about me and my
health and my age I am ready to go and join my cousin Chris in Iraq
and fight for America, justice and freedom.

Deuteronomy chapter 25 starting in verse one is very clear:
If there is a controversy between groups of peoples ... the judges may
judge them and decide who is just and they shall condem whoever is
wicked.And if the wicked person(s) is worthy to be beaten the judge
can order him to lie down and be beeten according to the extent of
what he did wrong...

Psalm 82:2 says :
How long shall you go without judging the unjust and how long will you
go accepting persons who are wicked?DEFEND the poor, fatherless, do
justice to protect those who are afflicted and needy.DELIVEr the poor
and needy, get them rid of being in the hand of the wicked.

Ezra 7:26 says:
Whoever does not follow the Laws of God and the laws of the King ,
judgement is to be executed speedily upon him if it meand he is to be
put to death banished, confiscation of goods or imprisonment.

Proverbs 17:15 says:
Whoever justifies those who are wicked, and whoever justifies those
who condem just people,whoever justifies both of these are a
abomination to the LORD.

Proverbs 18:5:
It is nor good to accept persons who are wicked, to overthrow the
rightous in judgement.

Proverbs 20:8
A King that sits on the throne and gives justice / judgement scatters
away all evil from his eyes.

Ecclesiastes 5:8 says :
If you see the oppression of the poor , and violent perverting of
judgement and justice, marvel not at the matter :for He that is higher
than the highest (God) regardeth, and He is higher than they are.

Isaiah 54:17

No weapon that is formed against thee (God) shall prosper, and every
tongue that shall rise up against THEE in judgement thou will
condem....

Tim Priddy

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Mar 28, 2003, 3:06:38 PM3/28/03
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On Fri, 28 Mar 2003 14:19:38 -0500, DizzysBluz wrote
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> Just another proof that fanatical fundamentalism breeds hatred.

I was thinking that Hitler must have had the same delusions regarding the Jews.

I think "you know who" must have flunked basic Theology, en route to his
"Doctorate". Perhaps ___ needs to take a refresher course on Muslim beliefs.

Doesn't the Bible somewhere say "Love thy enemies?". I guess he missed that
part.

Regards,
--
J. Timothy Priddy

trum...@chartermi.net
Lead, Ride, Side--All Styles--Educator, Arranger, Sight-Reader
Central Michigan Region

Iain Mclachlan

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"The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry" <dynaco...@yahoo.com> wrote in
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I read you quotes, and I feel sorry for you Mikey. I live in different
country to you. Quite a whole world away in many aspects, so my views on
this won't have an American accent.

I did mention that I wasn't a religious person didn't I? Quoting scriptures
from the Bible to me isn't going to justify what you say, I'm afraid.

I'm sorry, but the armies against Iraq, gallant (scared) and brave (stupid)
as they are, are not your army. They may be working your gods will, but how
do you know this? I see any war as an evil thing, and to condone it is evil
too. I don't like Saddam any more than you do, and I have no other options
or solutions to the war either, but you quotes basically refer to the U.S.
being god's nation and anyone against the U.S. as god's enemy, and so should
be cast down by the righteous. Are you telling me you belive Bush to be
righteous and speaking/acting with the will of god? I don't think so.

This is pointless. You've obviously got a very inflexible mind (on many
matters), but I just wanted to show you a....not opposing view, but a
different one.
If I ever prayed, I might ven think about praying for you Mikey...but
probably not.
I have my beliefs, you have yours (regarding trumpet playing as well - quite
laughable).
Lets just leave it at that.

All the best converting the rest of the world to your views.

Iain


The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> Dr. Mikey Schmidt
>
> www.trumpetofthelord.com
>
> ************************************************

FROM: Jerry Falwell
DATE: March 28, 2003
BIBLICAL GUIDELINES FOR NATIONAL PRAYER
At this critical time in our nation's history, it is imperative that
Christians join together in prayer for our troops who wage war against
a merciless enemy. This column is designed to offer suggestions on how
to effectively pray for our troops, our leaders and our nation during
this time of war and social unrest.

PRAYING FOR OUR TROOPS

"The angel of the Lord encamps all around those who fear Him, and
delivers them" (Psalm 34:7, NKJV).

I often reflect on this verse when praying for our military personnel
now fighting for the liberation of Iraq. It is comforting to know that
God wants to guard and deliver those who trust Him. That is why it is
so vitally important that Christians blanket our soldiers, sailors,
airmen and marines in prayer.

I was heartened to witness a variety of news reports documenting the
many worship services that were taking place prior to the military
campaign into Iraq. One very moving photo showed a young man being
baptized in a modified pool there. Baptist Press also showed a young
technician being baptized in a munitions crate aboard the U.S.S. Harry
S Truman.

Many of the men and women fighting to liberate Iraq are Christian
brothers and sisters. In fact, several Liberty University students and
graduates are now serving in the region as chaplains. I am confident
that these individuals - and many others - are standing as outspoken
representatives for Christ in the midst of battle. I have been praying
that many American service members come to know Christ as Savior while
serving their nation.

Let us also continue to pray that the Lord will safely deliver our
troops to their families and friends who await their return. And may
our nation welcome them home as heroes when they return to us.

PRAYING FOR OUR LEADERS

Earlier this year, President Bush said, "We pray for wisdom to know
and do what is right and we pray for God's peace in the affairs of
men."

Since our nation's founding, many of our leaders have sought God's
hand in human endeavors. We continue to call on Him to direct our
leaders.

In his "A Prayer for America," author Max Lucado beautifully expressed
his hope for the nation in the wake of September 11: "Let your mercy
be upon our President, Vice President, and their families. Grant to
those who lead us wisdom beyond their years and experience. Have mercy
upon the souls who have departed and the wounded who remain. Give us
grace that we might forgive and faith that we might believe. And look
kindly upon your church. For 2,000 years you've used her to heal a
hurting world. Do it again, Lord. Do it again."

I Timothy 2:1-2 tells us: "Therefore, I exhort first of all that
supplications, prayers, intercessions, and giving of thanks be made
for all men, for kings and all who are in authority, that we may lead
a quiet and peaceable life in all godliness and reverence."

Our responsibility is to support our leaders in prayer. The Bible
recounts times in the past when God's people did not take this
responsibility seriously and the consequence was often the rise to
power of evil monarchs. I encourage readers to honor President Bush
and the members of his administration with your faithful prayers.

PRAYING FOR OUR NATION

Proverbs 14:34 reminds us, "Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is
a reproach to any people."

This is why it is so vitally important that Christians become involved
in the democratic process. It is essential that we vote for leaders
who will uphold Judeo-Christian values.

Anne Graham Lotz, appearing on CBS's Early Show on Sept. 13, 2001,
discussed the importance of prayer in sustaining our nation. She noted
that God is "emotionally involved in our pain" and that He "can bring
comfort beyond human understanding."

During this time of war and potential terror, many people are asking
important questions about life and personal peace. Christians must be
ready to provide appropriate answers that point people toward the
outstretched hand of Christ. This is how true revival can begin in our
nation.

Furthermore, if we are to be involved in instigating a spiritual
reawakening in America, we must look to Ephesians chapter five to make
sure that we, as Christians, are living as true examples of Christ.

DON'T GROW WEARY IN WELL DOING

I would encourage Christians everywhere to continue to diligently pray
for our troops, our leaders and our nation. No matter how dark the
hour may seem, God continues to hear and answer our prayers. Galatians
6:9 tells us how important it is to be persistent in our Christian
efforts: "And let us not grow weary while doing good, for in due
season we shall reap if we do not lose heart."

Robert DeSavage

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On 28 Mar 2003 18:27:10 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>> Dr. Mikey Schmidt
>>
>> www.trumpetofthelord.com
>>
Why don't we just make a long story short and say "God bless America"?
I'm sure that no matter how it's expressed, God will understand.

BOB

Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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Mar 28, 2003, 10:32:14 PM3/28/03
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"you know who" is about as forgiving and loving as "you know what".


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Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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As always, the voice of reason and experience. Well said Bob.

>
> BOB


Robert DeSavage

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On 28 Mar 2003 18:27:10 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>> Dr. Mikey Schmidt
>>
>> www.trumpetofthelord.com
>>
>> ************************************************
>
>FROM: Jerry Falwell
>DATE: March 28, 2003
>BIBLICAL GUIDELINES FOR NATIONAL PRAYER
>At this critical time in our nation's history, it is imperative that
>Christians join together in prayer for our troops who wage war against
>a merciless enemy. This column is designed to offer suggestions on how
>to effectively pray for our troops, our leaders and our nation during
>this time of war and social unrest.
>

Even though I was brought up in the Catholic faith, I can't help but
to resent that there are those who think that Christians are the only
ones on Earth who have a direct line to God. It's arrogance to the nth
degree. But there again, we must consider the source where Falwell is
a smooth talking religious bigot who is a cause instead of a cure.
Right now, we need as much help as we can get. I'm not too concerned
whether the person next to me praying is Christian, Jewish, Buddhist,
Shinto, or whatever. Maybe their prayers might help save my ass.

BOB

Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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I love reading your posts!


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Mikey

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And your ignorance of God's word will send you to God-less eternal
damnation. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No
one comes to the Father but through me." THIS MEANS YOU BOB. Wake
up! This might be your last chance. John 14:6

To the other Mikey. I would suggest that if you mention LDS it would
be a good idea to also mention that they are NOT Christians. Some
people do not know this. They are wolves in sheep's clothing.
Matthew 7:15. Very similar to Islam, although most have have tempered
their extreme views and do not cause the same type of trouble as they
did in the past. Many Muslims also do not follow their "prophets'"
words and are thus tolerable to live with.

Robert DeSavage

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On 29 Mar 2003 04:34:11 -0800, refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote:

>And your ignorance of God's word will send you to God-less eternal
>damnation. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No
>one comes to the Father but through me." THIS MEANS YOU BOB. Wake
>up! This might be your last chance. John 14:6
>

Go to hell you hypocrite! How dare you pass judgement on me. You're no
better than the fanatics we're fighting in the Middle East. You know
God no better than the rest of us. Get off your pulpit and walk the
walk instead of talking the talk.

Robert DeSavage

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On 29 Mar 2003 04:34:11 -0800, refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote:

>And your ignorance of God's word will send you to God-less eternal
>damnation. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No
>one comes to the Father but through me." THIS MEANS YOU BOB. Wake
>up! This might be your last chance. John 14:6
>

You Bible thumpers can do more for the world by securing gainful and
meaningful employment. I'll take my chances about Eternal damnation
and go to my grave with a few extra bucks in my pocket instead of
filling your outstretched palms. Have you no shame?

Robert DeSavage

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It's always a pleasure to tell it like it is. That'll be the day I
need to have someone tell me how to pray. Those that try are no
better than those fanatics our good soldiers are sent to fight. The
only difference is that they wear expensive Brooks Brothers suits
(paid for by their prey) instead of desert clothing. Not to get me
wrong. I DO respect those that teach the Faith. However, it's at their
premises when I choose and never at the front door of my home. Them's
my rules where they will suffer my Eternal damnation if they attempt
to violate them.

BOB

Robert DeSavage

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On 28 Mar 2003 11:57:28 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>"Iain Mclachlan" <iainmc...@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<3e836da1$1...@news.nz.asiaonline.net>...
>> Hey, I'm by no means a religious person, but from what I've heard of hell, I
>> wouldn't wish it on anyone - not even our little friend Saddam. I'd rather
>> have him live forever and see him suffer publicly (In captivity like some
>> caged animal) than see him dead and be uncertain about his punishment.
>>
>> We all have our own lives and lines of work. Well, so do the Iraqi
>> soldiers. There's just happens to be a very tragic and fatal profession.
>***
>Re:
>Lets take a closer look at what the Bible says about Justice.
>I would rather share with you what the word of God says about Justice
>than to just give my own opinion, because in the flesh I am ready to
>fight for my country right now, I am ready to take up arms and join my
>cousin Chris and shoot anyone trying to kill him.I once tried to join
>the Army but I failed the physical (at MEPS)due to high blood
>pressure, but let me say if Uncle Sam changes his mind about me and my
>health and my age I am ready to go and join my cousin Chris in Iraq
>and fight for America, justice and freedom.

That's all well and good where you wish to fight for sheer principle.
Most say this is so. However, the flip side of the coin is that
soldiers are fighting the best they can in self defense. Maybe I'm
getting mellow as I get older, but I would find it rather difficult
for me to kill someone only because a 'superior' tells me to rather
than if someone was trying to do a number on me. This is coming from
someone who has answered the call to arms from 1964 to 1968.
Meanwhile, if 'Uncle' does change his mind and accepts you for
service, it will be for the good of the service that he gives you a
toilet brush and NOT a trumpet.


The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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"Ralph Caccese, Jr." <rcaccese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

Re:
Saddam is just another Adolf Hitler.
Hitler destroyed my families country and Saddam has destroyed Iraq.
Saddam is a demon inspired ungodly torturing, murdering terrorist,
he has even murdered little children.

Saddam is of the Devil.His father is Satan.

If we do not stop Saddam/Sadam/Sodom we will re-live Hitler's evil
all over again because Saddam is controled by the same one that Hitler
was, the devil.

God said (Ex.20:5) that he is a jealous God and that He would visit
the third and forth generation of them that hate Him.

Number 15:31 says that evil doers will be cut off.

2 Samuel 7:14 said that whoever commits iniqity against God, God will
chasten him with the rod of men, and with the stripes of the children
of men.

Job 20:5 says that the triumphing of the wicked is short.

Job 19:25 says to be afraid of God's sword, for wrath brings the
judgements of the sword, that ye might know there is judgements.

Saddam needs to be afraid, very afraid, God's judgement is upon
him.America has learned not to let another Hitler flurish.

Mikey

I got your high note baby


www.trumpetofthelord.com

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Gene Monteith

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Mar 29, 2003, 4:58:19 PM3/29/03
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It's always amazed me that there are Christians who blow the horn for war.
This should be a struggle for any Christian, I know it is for me. I love
this country but I hate this war. If that puts me in the 30th percentile
group, it won't be the first time. Anyway, I would like to know this: What
is the difference between an 18 year old American running headfirst into
combat yelling "God bless the USA" and a young Arab running headfirst into
combat yelling "Allah Akbar." The difference is one puts God first, the
other country.

Food for thought.

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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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The Quaran says:

"Kill those who join other god's with Allah wherever you shall find
them...but if they convert ... let thewm go away" 9:5

FACT: Muhammads followers killed people who would not submit and
convert to Islam with the sword to extend their empire.

Muslims View:
follow Allah and threaten war with Israel and others, belief in
JEHAD , "The Holy WAR" The Sunnites believe their leaders can call
them to JEHAD,Allah is not a personal God.Allah is a monotheistic God
who is divorced from his creation ,not associated with his creation ,
Allah created both good and evil.Allah is not our father.Allah never
expresses love.Allah is strict.Jesus is not the son of Allah.
Jesus never rose from the dead.Jesus was never crucified at
all.Muhammad was a greated prophet than Jesus.Religious warfare is a
duty.No religious freedom:Establish Islam as the world's religion ,
even if you have to kill all non converts to do so.Non Muslims are the
enemy.

Israel/ Christianity :
follows (YHVH -Jehovah) a personal plural (Hebrew = 3 or
more, in this case 3) (Christian = triune God).God was not the author
of evil but allowed moral free agents to choose to sin or not to
sin.God is our father,
God is love,holy, full of grace,Jesus is God(Christian)Jesus is the
Son of God(Christian)Messiah is future(Jewish)Jesus is the
messiah(Christian)Jesus rose from the dead(Christian),Muhammad was not
a prophet but a terrorist. Freedom of religion.Terrorists are the
enemy of free peoples.Americans = One Nation under God (Elohim).


Muslims reject the Christian and Jewish God claiming "there is no God
but Allah, and Muhammad is his prophet".
Militant Muslims are a great threat to world peace.Evil militant
Muslims are the cause of this current Iraqi conflict, not George W.
Bush, the United States or England.Muhammad was a terrorist , and so
are many of his followers.Muhammad lead by the use of the sword,
opponents of Muhammad were killed.
The majority of Muslims today are Sunni.Iran however is dominated by
Shiites.

****************

Mikey Schmidt

I got your high note baby.

www.trumpetofthelord

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> Go to hell you hypocrite! How dare you pass judgement on me. You're no
> better than the fanatics we're fighting in the Middle East.
******
Re:
Bob that is far from true, the terrorists that we are fighting in the
Middle East are far worse than a honest Christian (the other Mikey)
who is out of love sharing you God's truth from the Bible, they are
terrorists, remember 911, it was Muslims who did that to us.The other
Mikey is correct, unless a person confesses Jesus Christ as Lord, and
believes in their heart that God hath raised Jesus from the dead they
are lost,and they are not a Christian,they are not saved, and they
are not on their way to heaven according to the clear teachings found
in the Bible.The Catholic Bible 1962 edition by the Catholic Press
(p.149) says in Romans 10:9, "For if thou confess with thy mouth that
Jesus is Lord, and believe in thine heart that God has raised him from
the dead thou shalt be saved."
******

You know
> God no better than the rest of us. Get off your pulpit and walk the
> walk instead of talking the talk.
***
The Catholic Bible is full of talk about salvation Bob, and even the
official Catholic Bible contradicts what you are teaching.The Bible
clearly says that the Just shall live by Faith, and that salvation
comes by grace thru faith.

****


I got your high note baby.

Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> You Bible thumpers can do more for the world by securing gainful and
> meaningful employment. I'll take my chances about Eternal damnation
> and go to my grave with a few extra bucks in my pocket instead of
> filling your outstretched palms. Have you no shame?
***
Re:
A poor man goes to school, gets a degree, secures gainful and
meaningful employment, works for owner and government, not himself
.This = the poor mans way of life.If this is your life plan no wonder
you don't want to give to the Trumpet of the Lord, most likely you
have lots of liabilities and no real assets.Forget getting a job, get
financial litterate, then you won't mind giving to charities and
filling my outstreached palm, because you will pass on more than a few
bucks to your family and charities.Please Learn the difference between
assets( Stocks, bonds, notes, REAL ESTATE, Intellectual property) and
liabilities(Mortgage, Consumer loans, taxes)lower your expences
(Taxes, Mortgage, Real property,Taxes, Insurance, Maint,
utilities,fixed expences, food, clothing, fancy cars),increse your
income, turn income to assets to income to assets, etc.(From owning a
buisiness, not working two jobs) stop buying liabilities , buy and
invest in some assets and learn to give a little along the way,think
about it, you die rich and the Trumpet of the Lord has some money
coming to us.

Rich people buy assets , and can afford to pay for luxuries with CASH
and give gladly to charity from their overflowing wealth created from
their assets.Rich people give LARGE gifts to the Trumpet of the Lord
and other charities and they rejoice in seeing us get money to bless
others because they know they will get a return on their investment as
you can not out give God.God blesses the rich , money cometh to the
rich.The rich believe it is o.k. for charities to be blessed.They are
happy to see charities needs met.

Poor peoples money goes to pay for expences like their home, car,
taxes and credit cards so they only tip charity , and if they give at
all they complain about it,the poor are big on complaining about
charities , small in the giving, poor people complain when a rich
foundation gives to a charity like the Trumpet of the Lord.The poor
call charities the "Trumpet of the Fraud" if they see God blessing
others because poor people are jealous when they see others being
blessed or charities living above poverty.The poor lack because they
buy liabilities on credit to impress others, while many rich could
care less what kind of car they drive because they want to impress
their families with a large inheritance , the rich live to impress
themselves with assets , not liabilities like cars or homes that are
not paid for.

It is not how much money you make, it is how much money you keep.

Stop following your poor mans to get an education and a job , learn
how to start your own company and shelter some taxes and build real
wealth, and if you get rich please send a large donation to the
Trumpet of the Lord, just think, you will be so rich you won't even
miss it.
Thanks.

Mikey Schmidt

I got your high note baby.

www.trumpetofthelord.com

Dave Lee

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Mar 30, 2003, 7:37:42 AM3/30/03
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All of the following from a man who was on the verge of bankruptcy not more
than two years ago. LOL, how soon we forget.

Robert DeSavage

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On 29 Mar 2003 21:10:02 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>> You Bible thumpers can do more for the world by securing gainful and
>> meaningful employment. I'll take my chances about Eternal damnation
>> and go to my grave with a few extra bucks in my pocket instead of
>> filling your outstretched palms. Have you no shame?
>***
>Re:
>A poor man goes to school, gets a degree, secures gainful and
>meaningful employment, works for owner and government, not himself
>.This = the poor mans way of life.If this is your life plan no wonder
>you don't want to give to the Trumpet of the Lord, most likely you
>have lots of liabilities and no real assets.Forget getting a job, get
>financial litterate, then you won't mind giving to charities and
>filling my outstreached palm, because you will pass on more than a few
>bucks to your family and charities.Please Learn the difference between
>assets( Stocks, bonds, notes, REAL ESTATE, Intellectual property) and
>liabilities(Mortgage, Consumer loans, taxes)lower your expences
>(Taxes, Mortgage, Real property,Taxes, Insurance, Maint,
>utilities,fixed expences, food, clothing, fancy cars),increse your
>income, turn income to assets to income to assets, etc.(From owning a
>buisiness, not working two jobs) stop buying liabilities , buy and
>invest in some assets and learn to give a little along the way,think
>about it, you die rich and the Trumpet of the Lord has some money
>coming to us.
>

Mikey,

You've done saved my soul. Perhaps I should reconsider buying that new
WT trumpet and pass the bucks on to you. However, in view of the fact
that I'm nearly 60, retired from the USPS after 35 years of service,
took care of a wife for 16 years before she died of cancer, sent two
kids thru college (Oberlin and Eastman), paid off my mortgage and car,
and contribute liberally to many charities, I think that I'm due this
luxury. After countless thorough examinations of my conscience, I
can't think of any good reason not to. Meanwhile, I'd be more prone to
donate a hefty amount of money to your cause had it been affiliated
with the Comedy Connection. It's not so much the content of your
sermons as it is your presentation that makes it a potential head
liner. Now that I've blown off some steam, it's time for me to work on
my 'Sailing The Seven C's' book. Thus far, I'm making good progress,
despite the fact that I have schleroderma and dentures on the way. I
was barking up the wrong tree for years where prayers alone did me no
good. It was God who finally told me that beside praying, a lot of
hard work is the answer. Perhaps this might be the answer to all your
woes. Talk is cheap Mikey and your advice sucks to boot.

BOB

I got your low note baby

Robert DeSavage

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On 29 Mar 2003 20:38:23 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>> Go to hell you hypocrite! How dare you pass judgement on me. You're no
>> better than the fanatics we're fighting in the Middle East.
>******
>Re:
>Bob that is far from true, the terrorists that we are fighting in the
>Middle East are far worse than a honest Christian (the other Mikey)
>who is out of love sharing you God's truth from the Bible, they are
>terrorists, remember 911, it was Muslims who did that to us.

Terrorist? Look who's talking. Are you not resorting to the same
tactic, that is to say FEAR? You're saying that if one is not a
Christian, that person will face Eternal damnation in Hell (i.e. fire
and brimstone). That kind of fate will be as fearsome as someone
saying 'abide by my orders or you will die.' Unfortunate as it is,
some people believe you. I don't because I was brought up to abide by
principles and morals because it was being considerate and
non-injurious to my fellow man, NOT because there was the threat of
punishment by being cast into Hell instead of Eternal paradise in
Heaven. People like yourself blow smoke about greed and selfishness,
yet desire Eternal paradise where everything you want will be granted.
What's being more greedy than that?????? Even though my wife is not
Christian, I'm sure that she will have Eternal rest in God's favor.
Why??? Not because of her method of faith but how she behaved and
acted in life. I'm aware of 911 and who was the cause. How about the
Oklahoma City bombing? I believe that Tim was brought up to be a God
fearing Christian. You're definitely wrong to pick and choose who is
to be considered righteous. That's up to the One at the Gate when each
of us cross over.

Gene Monteith

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Mar 30, 2003, 2:44:08 PM3/30/03
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I'm probably not as learned as you with respect to the Quran, but I do know
that the Muslim God is the God of Abraham, the same as Christians and Jews.
The difference really is how we view our relationship with God. Each of the
major religions has at some point killed in the name of God, claiming that
God has specially blessed them. Witness the Crusades and the Spanish
Inquisition, both of which were carried out by the followers of Jesus
against those who would not submit and convert to Christianity.

"The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry" <dynaco...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:e1fe8585.03032...@posting.google.com...

Tommy T.

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"Gene Monteith" <gmon...@columbus.rr.com> wrote I do know

> that the Muslim God is the God of Abraham, the same as Christians and
Jews.


In fact, Muslims believe that the Arab people are direct descendents of
Abraham through his first son, Ishmael, by Hagar On behalf of her son,
Issac, Sarah caused Abraham to expel Ishmael into the desert. But the God
promised Hagar that he would make of Ishmael a great nation. This story is
told in Genesis, Chapters 16 and 21, as well as in the Koran. The Jews
believe they descended from Issac, the Muslims believe that the Arabs
descended from Ishmael.

Recognizing that Christians and Jews are also "people of the book" -- that
is, believers in the God of Abraham, the Koran instructs that Christians and
Jews are not subject to forced conversion, although they are required to "be
humbled" and to pay special taxes.


Robert DeSavage

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Mar 30, 2003, 3:31:57 PM3/30/03
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On 29 Mar 2003 21:10:02 -0800, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>> You Bible thumpers can do more for the world by securing gainful and
>> meaningful employment. I'll take my chances about Eternal damnation
>> and go to my grave with a few extra bucks in my pocket instead of
>> filling your outstretched palms. Have you no shame?
>***

As of late


>Re:
>A poor man goes to school, gets a degree, secures gainful and
>meaningful employment, works for owner and government, not himself
>.This = the poor mans way of life.If this is your life plan no wonder
>you don't want to give to the Trumpet of the Lord, most likely you
>have lots of liabilities and no real assets.Forget getting a job, get
>financial litterate, then you won't mind giving to charities and
>filling my outstreached palm, because you will pass on more than a few
>bucks to your family and charities.Please Learn the difference between
>assets( Stocks, bonds, notes, REAL ESTATE, Intellectual property) and
>liabilities(Mortgage, Consumer loans, taxes)lower your expences
>(Taxes, Mortgage, Real property,Taxes, Insurance, Maint,
>utilities,fixed expences, food, clothing, fancy cars),increse your
>income, turn income to assets to income to assets, etc.(From owning a
>buisiness, not working two jobs) stop buying liabilities , buy and
>invest in some assets and learn to give a little along the way,think
>about it, you die rich and the Trumpet of the Lord has some money
>coming to us.
>

Earlier
>If I had the money I would replace the
>Kanstul KMS 103 with a real Wild Thing or perhaps another trumpet but
>I have other priorities such as sound equipment ,getting a new
>equipment trailer, and buying a marching baritone and a pic that will
>have to come first before we can afford to replace my Kanstul KMS 103.


Hmmmmm

THEOldMan

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refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote in message news:<1d4e30a0.03032...@posting.google.com>...

> And your ignorance of God's word will send you to God-less eternal
> damnation. Jesus said, "I am the way, the truth, and the life. No
> one comes to the Father but through me." THIS MEANS YOU BOB. Wake
> up! This might be your last chance. John 14:6
>
> To the other Mikey.

WHAT????? WHAT???? NOW WE HAVE TWO *** TWO *** "MIKEYS". How do you
do a "double ploink"?

AND to top it off one of them, and I'm confused as usual, now brings
in Jerry Falwell. I'm gonna go get Jim Bakker and J. Swaggart and
bring them over here now.

AAAARRRRGHHHH!

dd

THEOldMan

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Mar 30, 2003, 9:21:46 PM3/30/03
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"Tommy T." <thomas....@att.net> wrote in message news:<b67k49$2hl7o$1...@ID-134792.news.dfncis.de>...

> "Gene Monteith" <gmon...@columbus.rr.com> wrote I do know
> > that the Muslim God is the God of Abraham, the same as Christians and
> Jews.
>


This being the trumpet news group ... what mouthpiece do YOU use?

Just curious.

Tommy T.

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Mar 30, 2003, 9:36:46 PM3/30/03
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"THEOldMan" <ddal...@aol.com> wrote in message what mouthpiece do YOU
use?

These are my most usual combinations. I've some other horns and some other
mouthpieces but they are not my regular blows.

In my Wild Thing Bb, a Yamaha 14A4a-GP reamed out to a #20 drill size.

In my modified, reverse leadpipe L.A. Benge C, a standard weight Yamaha 14B4
reamed out to a #24 drill size.

In my Bach Eb/D, either the same Yamaha or a Warburton 10S on a B8 shank if
the piece lasts all night and is a killer for range, like the Bach Mass in B
Minor, say.

In my Wedgwood cornet, a Wick 4BW for band or solo work or a Kanstul G1 for
breathy style jazz.

In my Yamaha flugelhorn, a Filp Oakes "P" unless range issues require a
Reeves 42F.

Tommy T.


Mikey

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:37:19 AM3/31/03
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HI Bob:

It's God himself that will pass judgement. You are the one on the
path to Hell. If you deny the opportunity to accept his sacrifice for
you it is your choice to go. Jesus stands at the door knocking. All
you have to do is ask him. Take the opportunity today. I challenge
you to pray to God and tell him that you will accept him as your Lord
and Saviour if he will reveal himself to you. Do you have the guts to
accept this challenge?
Revelation 3:20

Mikey

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:41:11 AM3/31/03
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ddal...@aol.com (THEOldMan) wrote in message news:<35ffbab.03033...@posting.google.com>...
Don't bring in Swaggert. If he were honest he would have canceled his
ministry and repented. Baker mave have repented. A few years in the
slammer will do that to some people.

Falwell is lumped in with those two? Why? Because he preaches
Christianity on TV? So does that charlatan Benny Hinn. Jerry Falwell
has nothing to do with people like them.

Mikey

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:46:10 AM3/31/03
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The Muslim may think that he is following God but he is actually
following Satan. Yes there is debate about war and defending oneself,
but Jesus' followers carried swords. He did not tell them to throw
them away.

Iraq is not really a Muslim war. Sadam is a Nazi (a form of
communism) He is not a true believer in Islam as UBL may be.

John Miller

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:48:16 AM3/31/03
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Mikey wrote to Bob:

> It's God himself that will pass judgement. You are the one on the
> path to Hell.

This discussion has no place here, but I have to point out that in two
sentences you have defined God's prerogative and immediately usurped it.

Remarkable.
--
John Miller

Quality Control, n.:
The process of testing one out of every 1,000 units coming off
a production line to make sure that at least one out of 100 works.

Mikey

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:52:42 AM3/31/03
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The Spanish Inquisition was done in the name of the Catholic Church.
That is not the same as Christianity. There are many Christian
Catholics but the Catholic Church official doctrine is apostate in
many people's opinion.

Speaking of Islam's god. The Mormons and JW's clain to worship the God
of Abraham as well, but one can tell from their doctrine of God that
there's is NOT the true eternal God of the Bible.

Mikey

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:55:15 AM3/31/03
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I use a Mount Vernon 1 1/4 C in very good condition. Would anyone
like to buy it for say..... $2,000?

Robert DeSavage

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Mar 31, 2003, 11:17:30 AM3/31/03
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Number 1 Mikey, I am not denouncing Jesus. I recognize him to be the
son of God. However, I with no compunction am denouncing you and those
like you that with much arrogance insist that you're in God's inner
circle.

Let's be realistic. In the most basic of terms, Jesus got a raw deal.
Yes, he did sacrifice, but not for me, not for you. He really had no
choice and did not volunteer himself to be put on the cross. Jesus was
a great man who undoubtedly had enough smarts not to be suicidal. So,
the bottom line is that Jesus got railroaded or what is better known
as being lynched.

However Mikey, I clearly am familiar with Jesus' words, "Let he who is
free of sin cast the first stone." Seems to me that you are prejudging
me even though you aren't man enough to admit it. As you say, and as I
agree, God himself will pass judgement. How is it that you enter the
equation and project what my fate is to be? Are YOU, Mikey, free of
sin to cast that first stone?

Challenge????? I face challenges each and every day and deal with them
accordingly. If I am to be cast into Hell, then so be it. I can only
hope that Hell will be fire and brimstone instead of what I fear it to
be - listening to a zillion accordion players all playing Lady Of
Spain. That would be Eternal damnation.

BOB

Robert DeSavage

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Mar 31, 2003, 11:42:56 AM3/31/03
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On 31 Mar 2003 07:41:11 -0800, refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote:

>ddal...@aol.com (THEOldMan) wrote in message news:<35ffbab.03033...@posting.google.com>...
>Don't bring in Swaggert. If he were honest he would have canceled his
>ministry and repented. Baker mave have repented. A few years in the
>slammer will do that to some people.
>
>Falwell is lumped in with those two? Why? Because he preaches
>Christianity on TV? So does that charlatan Benny Hinn. Jerry Falwell
>has nothing to do with people like them.

Mikey,

If you guys were able to express your beliefs properly, you wouldn't
have to resort to the glitter, glamor, and music in order to tend to
the flock. What you've done is turn a medicine show into a BIG bucks
deal. It's shameful that the ministry of organized religion has turned
into an industry that (excuse the term) has more money than God. Yet,
despite the material wealth that organized religion has, people in
this world are still starving. Why is this so when the flock reached
down into their pockets answering organized religion's plea to avert
or prevent such a thing? They ought to throw the entire bunch of you
in jail and throw the key away. Until such time as you people clean
up your respective acts, I'll not budge on lessening my contempt.

Greg Evans

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Mar 31, 2003, 12:09:01 PM3/31/03
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Robert DeSavage wrote:

> Until such time as you people clean
> up your respective acts, I'll not budge on lessening my contempt.

And he (and his ilk) will never budge from their one-track opinions.
Impasse. So can we do the killfile thing and get back to trumpet now?


Dave Lee

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Mar 31, 2003, 12:17:39 PM3/31/03
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Me thinks this Mikey is none other than MES, in yet another failed attempt to
appear as though he has a supporter.

William E. Graham

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Mar 31, 2003, 3:39:24 PM3/31/03
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"Mikey" <refwh...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1d4e30a0.03033...@posting.google.com...

> HI Bob:
>
> It's God himself that will pass judgement. You are the one on the
> path to Hell. If you deny the opportunity to accept his sacrifice for
> you it is your choice to go. Jesus stands at the door knocking. All
> you have to do is ask him. Take the opportunity today. I challenge
> you to pray to God and tell him that you will accept him as your Lord
> and Saviour if he will reveal himself to you. Do you have the guts to
> accept this challenge?
> Revelation 3:20


Where am I going? - And what am I doing in this handbasket?


The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Mar 31, 2003, 5:03:12 PM3/31/03
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refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote in message news:<1d4e30a0.03033...@posting.google.com>...

***
Re:
I would't take $2,000.00 for my Jerome Callet X 5.
I played on a Bach 1 1/4 C mouthpiece in high school.
I had no range but I did have a big fat tone.
Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

***

Iain Mclachlan

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"The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry" <dynaco...@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:e1fe8585.03033...@posting.google.com...


Dude, IMHO it's ALL about tone.
Range comes second in my book, but hey, thats just me

Iain -iii-<

Jazz from down-under


JLisbeth

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Mar 31, 2003, 7:26:39 PM3/31/03
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"Mikey" <refwh...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1d4e30a0.03033...@posting.google.com...
> The Spanish Inquisition was done in the name of the Catholic Church.
> That is not the same as Christianity. There are many Christian
> Catholics but the Catholic Church official doctrine is apostate in
> many people's opinion.

Fascinating. Not only can't different religions get along, the Christians
can't even get along with each other.

This sounds like 4-year-olds arguing about which is real, Santa or the Tooth
Fairy.

John
Cape Canaveral

DuBois

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Mar 31, 2003, 10:02:11 PM3/31/03
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Dave Lee wrote:
>
> Me thinks this Mikey is none other than MES, in yet another failed attempt to
> appear as though he has a supporter.

I have reason to believe that this Mikey is not the same
as the Schmidt-for-brains Mikey. Schmidt-head has certainly
been known to pop up as various supposes Schmidt-head
supporters, and it has always been trivially easy to tell
that it's really MES. For one thing, the headers have
revealed that these Sybil-characters use MES's own computer!

But just in the body of the post, MES has always given
conclusive clues as to who he really is. I won't say
exactly what the clues are, and let Mikey in on his
own secret, but many of you will have notices these same
clues. And this new Mikey's posts lack these tell-tale
signs. So either MES has wised up learn to post better
forgeries, or the new Mikey is a different person.
The chances that the bull-Schmidt artist has wised up
are miniscule. Possibly Mikey II has been put up to it
by MES, but I think they are tow different people. Of
course, I may be totally wrong.

Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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Mar 31, 2003, 11:48:19 PM3/31/03
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"Mikey" <refwh...@juno.com> wrote in message
news:1d4e30a0.03033...@posting.google.com...
> The Muslim may think that he is following God but he is actually
> following Satan. Yes there is debate about war and defending oneself,
> but Jesus' followers carried swords. He did not tell them to throw
> them away.

Love thy enemy. No?

>
> Iraq is not really a Muslim war. Sadam is a Nazi (a form of
> communism)


Wrong. Nazi were Fascists. They hated the Communists.

William E. Graham

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"JLisbeth" <jlis...@cfl.rr.com> wrote in message
news:315ia.54857$j8.16...@twister.tampabay.rr.com...
I know he's a long shot, but my money's on the Easter Bunny......He's
paying ten to one.........


Tom King

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Apr 1, 2003, 8:23:18 AM4/1/03
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> Speaking of Islam's god. The Mormons and JW's clain to worship the God
> of Abraham as well, but one can tell from their doctrine of God that
> there's is NOT the true eternal God of the Bible.
My Islam friends certainly play much better than Mikey or MESS.
Religion, race, or nationality is nothing to do with trumpet.

JLisbeth

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Apr 1, 2003, 8:21:00 PM4/1/03
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"
> > > The Spanish Inquisition was done in the name of the Catholic Church.
> > > That is not the same as Christianity. There are many Christian
> > > Catholics but the Catholic Church official doctrine is apostate in
> > > many people's opinion.
> >
> > Fascinating. Not only can't different religions get along, the
> Christians
> > can't even get along with each other.
> >
> > This sounds like 4-year-olds arguing about which is real, Santa or the
> Tooth
> > Fairy.
> >
> > John
> > Cape Canaveral
> >
> I know he's a long shot, but my money's on the Easter Bunny......He's
> paying ten to one.........

Not anymore, he's not.

I ate him for lunch last Sunday.

With a nice Chianti. (Smack-smack!!!)

John
>
>


The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Apr 2, 2003, 11:03:19 AM4/2/03
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> AND to top it off one of them, and I'm confused as usual, now brings
> in Jerry Falwell. I'm gonna go get Jim Bakker and J. Swaggart and
> bring them over here now.
>
> AAAARRRRGHHHH!
>
> dd
Re:
Unlike Swaggart and Bakker Dr. Falwell has been faithful to his wife
(Macel).
Dr. Falwell has never been accused of adultry,and their is no way
that that will ever happen.Anyone who has ever been close to Dr.
Falwell and who knows him at least as well as I do would laugh at any
adultry accusations because we all know that Dr. Falwell loves Macel
way too much to ever cheat on her.

Unlike Swaggart, Falwell believes in the biblical teaching of once
saved always saved / eternal security.Unlike Swaggart Falwell is a
local pastor first and a tv minister second.Dr. Falwell is never to
busy for his members at Thomas Road, or the people of Lynchburg for
that matter , they are the main focus of his ministry, not his t.v.
church and radio stations.

Swaggart is a hypocrite; preaching against whoremongering and then he
was caught in a hotel room with a prostitute; preaching against
Christian Contemporary rock music while his own church plays Christian
Contemporary rock music and even uses drums sets; preaching about the
victory of the cross and Jesus Christ while not believing that faith
and belief in Christ's atoning death on the cross with confession and
repentance guarantees eternal life.I guess Jimmy Swaggart sins so many
times that he falsely believes that he needs to keep getting saved all
over again and again and again.That's not victory in Jesus Christ.The
book of John says "These things have I written that you might know
that you have eternal life". When caught in his pathetic sin red
handed Jimmy Swaggart refused to follow the leadership discipline of
his own denomination, and now Jimmy regularly uses his radio time to
bash his former church leadership Jimmy does not like the fact that
they were asking him to submit to proper church discipline for being
caught having some kind of sex in a hotel room with a known hooker( I
believe they wanted him to serve a years suspention from his ministry,
get counseling, restore fellowship.Shame on you Jimmy, you destroyed
your ministry, lost your calling and annointing and made other
Christian TV ministers look like hypocrites and fools.You pointed the
finger at the splinter in Jimmy Bakers eye when you had a log in your
own eye.Jimmy stop using your radio ministry to bash other
denominations like the Baptists , good decient Christian Contemporary
bands, the Masons, and your personal battle with the Assemblies of God
Church.

As for Jimmy Bakker the title of his book "I was wrong" says a lot.
I read Jimmy's book and I do not agree with his accusations about Dr.
Falwell , but I have a lot of respect for a guy who I believe honestly
admits what he did was wrong and made a true appology for it , is
contrite,sincere, and he tried his best to make up for what he did
wrong.None of us are perfect, and Jimmy like myself is a sinner , I
believe it is time that we forgive him.A friend of mine Officer
Rockett once went up to Jimmy when he was in Federal Prison, mind you
Officer Rockett was a State of Georgia Correctional Officer at the
time but his uniform somehow got him access to Rev. Jimmy, and Officer
Rockett asked Jimmy "Good Reverend, do you have any advice that you
can give to me"
Jimmy looked tward him and answered "Don't go to prison".
I will never forget Officer Rocketts last day at the prison that I
worked at with him, Officer Rockett had a sence of humor about him ,
his entire last day he answered his radio making his best Ernest
Angley impersonation.
It was so funny.

Mikey

www.trumnpetofthelord.com

John Miller

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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry wrote:

> Swaggart is a hypocrite;

Well, you've just joined a small but select group of people in my killfile
-- not because I have any affinity for Swaggart, but rather, because I've
found that killfiling people who indulge in name-calling (and, BTW, that's
my sole criterion), makes Usenet a MUCH pleasanter place.

A parting plea: spend the time that you would have spent composing off-topic
postings to this newsgroup on practicing or ministering, instead. The
world will be a better place for it.

Peace,
--
John Miller

Dieters live life in the fasting lane.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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John Miller <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<b6f2oc$uto$1...@n4vu.com>...

> The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry wrote:
>
> > Swaggart is a hypocrite;
>
> Well, you've just joined a small but select group of people in my killfile
> -- not because I have any affinity for Swaggart, but rather, because I've
> found that killfiling people who indulge in name-calling (and, BTW, that's
> my sole criterion), makes Usenet a MUCH pleasanter place.
********
Re:
I am not the one pointing the finger at Swaggart, Swaggart pointed the
finger at me first.
I am sick and tired of listening to Swaggart using his radio show
every week to point his finger at Baptist ministers because of our
biblical stand on salvation.
Let me tell you, killfile me all you want to, I am not going to sit
like a lame duck while Swaggart points his finger at me and other
ordained Baptist ministers .
The Bible is CLEAR that once you are saved you are always saved.
John 10:27-28 says "My sheep hear my voice , and I know them and they
follow me, and I give unto them eternal life , AND THEY SHALL NEVER
PERISH, neither shall anyone pluck them out of my hand."

Jimmy Swaggart is teaching false doctrine.He points his fingers at
baptist ministers for our teaching on once saved always saved, but
Swaggart is the one who is wrong biblically.
He crys boo hoo sob sob about his victory in the cross but his cross
ia a false cross built on the sinful life of a whoremongerer and
fingerpointer whose salvation is filled with doubt.Jimmy's cross is
not a good enough cross to fulfill John 10.
Perfection is required to get to heaven.
None of us are perfect.
WE CAN NOT EARN , WORK OR MERIT the perfection required to get to
heaven.
It MUST be God's gift to us.
The Bible says in John 6:47 "he that believeth on Jesus HATH
everlasting life"
"But he that believeth not is condemed already because he hath not
believed in the name of the only begotton son of God.
John 20:31 says "These things have I written unto you that believe
(pistio)
on the name of the son of God , that you MIGHT KNOW that you have
eternal life , and that you might believe in the name of the son of
God.
Luke 19:10 says that "For the son of man (Jesus) came to seek and to
SAVE those who were lost."Jesus came for assurance of salvation, not
doubt.

John 3:17 says that "For God sent his son not into the world to condem
the world; but that the world thru him could be saved".
I Peter 3:18 says "For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, for
the just and the unjust, that he might bring us to god, being put to
death in the flesh , but made alive by the Spirit.
2Corinthians 5:21 says that For he hath made him who knew no sins for
us, WHO KNOW SIN, that we might be made the rightousness of God IN
him"
IN HIM
IN HIM
IN HIM
IN HIM
IN HIM
NOT IN OURSELVES
IN HIM
IN HIM
NOT in our rightoue living but...
IN HIM
IN HIM
IN HIM NOT IN JIM

Get is right Mr. Swaggart, your lifestyle, and we know how it is, CAN
NOT SAVE YOU!!!
THE ONLY CHANCE YOU HAVE IN BEING SAVED IS IN CHRIST
IN HIM
IN HIM
IN HIM
NOT IN YOUR LIVING
NOT IN YOUR SINLESS ATTEMPTS
NOT IN SPEAKING IN TONGUES
NOT IN THE BAPTISM IN THE SPIRIT
NOT IN HEALINGS
NOT IN PROSPERITY

BUT ONLY IN HIM

SO STOP POINTING YOUR SELF RIGHTOUS FINGER AT BAPTIST PREACHERS Mr.
Swaggart
STOP TRYING TO GET TO HEAVEN ON YOUR WORKS
HEAVEN ONLY COME TO THOSE WHO ARE IN HIM!!!!

Rev. Mikey Schmidt

Old fashoned once saved always saved ordained Baptist minister!!!

www.trumpetofthelord.com

**************


>
> A parting plea: spend the time that you would have spent composing off-topic
> postings to this newsgroup on practicing or ministering, instead. The
> world will be a better place for it.

***
I practice every day , thank you.
But I do not have to play perfect to get to heaven.
***

>
> Peace,

Tom King

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Apr 2, 2003, 10:28:24 PM4/2/03
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Christians who commit crimes like murders, adulteries, etc, are no
better than Muslim people who keep 10 commandments.

You should not judge people or you will be judged accordingly.

bfla...@crosslink.net

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http://www.BFLATMUSIC.com/sevencs.html

And don't miss our "Tips for Trumpeters".

billy_ball2

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Apr 3, 2003, 1:29:00 PM4/3/03
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Excellent book and CD. Really helped me conceptualize what it takes
to play in the higher register without pressing the horn through your
face. It takes time to comprehend, and LOTS of practice, but the
drills are easy to follow and the results come fast and furious.
After two weeks it was like something unlocked and my range jumped 4
or 5 steps at once. I recommend it to everyone...

bfla...@crosslink.net wrote in message news:<3e8bba5d$0$13...@dingus.crosslink.net>...

charlie brown

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Apr 3, 2003, 9:20:21 PM4/3/03
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Nazism is a form of socialism. Same story. Hitler and Stalin were allies
at the start of WW2. Study thy history.

"Ralph Caccese, Jr." <rcaccese...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:FhSdndMW_dW...@comcast.com...

Mikey

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Who said they were? No one is worthy to spend eternity with the
perfect God.

Only by accepting the free gift of salvation can one be washed of sin
and become worthy.

I am just echoing the Word of God Almighty. If you don't like it you
need to have the guts to ask The Lord Himself.

It is written "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the
free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."

Tom King

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Apr 4, 2003, 7:01:46 AM4/4/03
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Don't echo HIS words here. Echo quad hi-c.

charlie brown

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Apr 4, 2003, 9:41:42 AM4/4/03
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Quadruple hugh C plays on my tea kettle every morning. Why waste the energy
to play it on trumpet?

"Tom King" <hornz...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:f23353ab.03040...@posting.google.com...

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote in message news:<1d4e30a0.03040...@posting.google.com>...

> Who said they were? No one is worthy to spend eternity with the
> perfect God.
>
> Only by accepting the free gift of salvation can one be washed of sin
> and become worthy.
>
> I am just echoing the Word of God Almighty. If you don't like it you
> need to have the guts to ask The Lord Himself.
>
> It is written "for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God"
> Romans 3:23 and Romans 6:23 "For the wages of sin is death, but the
> free gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord."
*******
Re:
Amen Mikey!!!
God says in Matthew 7:21-23 that "not everyone who says unto me Lord,
Lord shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."
I would not be so sure that those murderers and whoremongers were ever
saved in the first place.Many people think that they are saved when
the truth is that they are completely lost.But God will tell them "I
never knew you, depart from me you workers of iniquity (sin)"
Many people try to work their way into heaven, but Isaiah 64:6 says
that "all of their rightousness is like filthy rags ".You see those
who practice habitual sins like adultry, homosexuality or who condone
the homosexual lifestyle are actually lost, and are not saved.Romans
1:31 says that those people are worth of eternal death in hell for
their unrepentant lifestyle.Romans 1:26-30 calls those who are filled
with unrightousness such as murderers and practicing homosexuals
backbiters, haters of God, without understanding.We Christians need to
stop worrying about being PC , we need to tell it like it is, these
murderers and adulters are not saved.Their lived show no evidence to
me that they ever were saved in the first place, so most likely they
are lost.

Christ is the just one, Christians are forgiven sinners.Forgiveness
follows repentance.Those who have never repented and confessed their
sins to God are not saved.

Ephesians 2:8-9 says that "we are saved by grace thru faith, not of
works"

2 Corinthians says that " God hath made Christ to be sin for us , who
knwe no sin, so that we, might be made the righteousness of God IN
HIM".


1 Peter 2:24 says "Jesus himself bore our sins in his own body on the
cross so that we who were dead to sins might be made to live unto
righteousness "

Titus 2:14 says that Jesus "Gave himself for us so that he might
redeem us from all sin "
Hebrews 10:10 tells Christians that we were "sanctified (set apart)
thru the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all."
Rev. Michael E. Schmidt
Boldly proclaiming the truths found in God's word.
www.trumpetofthelord.com
*******

Gene Monteith

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Apr 4, 2003, 3:47:07 PM4/4/03
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Mike, I think you're going to have to spend your time in heaven with a lot
of people you're not counting on. Should be fun to watch.


"Mikey" <refwh...@juno.com> wrote in message

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Mikey

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TK what gets you into heaven if I am so wrong?

Mikey

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What is your evidence of this Gene?

"Gene Monteith" <gmon...@columbus.rr.com> wrote in message news:<fbmja.50938$0X.97...@twister.columbus.rr.com>...

Mikey

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Apr 6, 2003, 6:48:35 PM4/6/03
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Right on man.

John Miller

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Apr 6, 2003, 7:26:07 PM4/6/03
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Mikey wrote:

<a whole series of off-topic posts>

You gonna talk about trumpets, or are you gonna proseletize?

--
John Miller

Subtlety is the art of saying what you think and getting out of the way
before it is understood.

Tom King

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Apr 6, 2003, 11:53:45 PM4/6/03
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MESS or Mikey can answer your question.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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hornz...@yahoo.com (Tom King) wrote in message news:<f23353ab.03040...@posting.google.com>...

> MESS or Mikey can answer your question.
Re:
Tom, calling me MESS was just plain rude.
I am sick and tired of these childish attacks.
Grow up.

Mikey Schmidt.
www.trumpetofthelord.com

***

Tom King

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Apr 7, 2003, 5:42:00 PM4/7/03
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Sorry. It is mistaken for MES. Is MES you? I was confused of the
names, Mikey, MES, Mikey Schmid, Michael Schmid, Michael E. Schmid and
The Thrumpet of the lord. Are there any other names you represent in
this newsgroup?

I do not mean he is a mess. But the same guy using a variety of names
in one newsgroup is a mess.

This guy is messing this newsgroup for sure.

Mikey

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Apr 15, 2003, 8:33:34 AM4/15/03
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Nine days later and still no answer. I knew that you couldn't come up
with anything. Why? Because you are wrong.

refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote in message news:<1d4e30a0.0304...@posting.google.com>...

trouble

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refwh...@juno.com (Mikey) wrote in message news:<1d4e30a0.03041...@posting.google.com>...
>
>... Because you are wrong.
>

"Why must RMMT always be a big fight?

Can't we all just learn to get along?

Please.

Mikey"


Ya ya, shaddap.

Tom King

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Apr 15, 2003, 11:28:54 PM4/15/03
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You knew the answer.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Apr 16, 2003, 2:37:43 PM4/16/03
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John Miller <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<b6qd2f$dsu$1...@n4vu.com>...

> Mikey wrote:
>
> <a whole series of off-topic posts>
>
> You gonna talk about trumpets, or are you gonna proseletize?

Re:
1. This stran was listed at OT.

2. I asked for prayer for my cousin Chris, who unlike the "Hollywood
Pacifists " is willing to die for freedom.

3. The Trumpet of the Lord without appology uses the trumpet and the
Lord's Horns to worship Jesus Christ, Edify believers, and yes to
witness to those who have not accepted the Lord Jesus Christ as their
savior, or as you put it, proseletize.

To find out for sure if you are saved take the test at:

www.eph289.com

Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

John Miller

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Apr 16, 2003, 3:36:51 PM4/16/03
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The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry wrote:

> To find out for sure if you are saved take the test at:

Thanks, but I was in seminary while you were still in short pants.

--
John Miller
A veteran, just BTW

e-credibility: the non-guaranteeable likelihood that the electronic data
you're seeing is genuine rather than somebody's made-up crap.
- Karl Lehenbauer

Tom King

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Apr 16, 2003, 5:49:41 PM4/16/03
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What a beautiful scene!!! You, two, pacify each other.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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John Miller <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message news:<b7kbcj$fr0$1...@n4vu.com>...

> The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry wrote:
>
> > To find out for sure if you are saved take the test at:
>
> Thanks, but I was in seminary while you were still in short pants.
***

Re:
Going to Seminary alone will not save you.
Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

***

Tom King

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You will not be saved as long as you keep posting in this newsgroup.

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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hornz...@yahoo.com (Tom King) wrote in message news:<f23353ab.03041...@posting.google.com>...

> You will not be saved as long as you keep posting in this newsgroup.
**********

Re:
Tom,
Posting in this newsgroup is my right, and posting in this newsgroup
will not cause me to lose my salvation.
My salvation is not based on my doing my best.It is not based on
obeying God's laws and commandments, giving gifts to charity, doing my
best, living a good life, good works, living by the golden rule,
tithing, church membership, church attendance, prayers, fasting, water
baptism, communion, confirmation or pentances.

Acts 13:39 in the Bible, God's holy word tells us:
"And by Christ all thta believe are justified from all things, from
which you could not be justified by the law of moses.

Eternal life is not found in what we do or don't do ourselves.We are
saved because a perfect rightousness is given to us.We receive this
when we repent of our sins and believe that the Lord Jesus Christ took
our sins on himself and paid for them by his death on the cross.

Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com


****

Tom King

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Apr 18, 2003, 5:16:52 PM4/18/03
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If so, it is my right to call FTC and IRS that you are engaging......

Robert DeSavage

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Apr 19, 2003, 8:52:21 AM4/19/03
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On 18 Apr 2003 06:57:12 -0700, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>hornz...@yahoo.com (Tom King) wrote in message news:<f23353ab.03041...@posting.google.com>...
>> You will not be saved as long as you keep posting in this newsgroup.
>**********
>
>Re:
>Tom,
>Posting in this newsgroup is my right, and posting in this newsgroup
>will not cause me to lose my salvation.

How true, but how true it also is that you're a pain in the ass! Feel
free though to tell us what kind of trumpet fell out of the sky into
your hands this week. I await my WT which should be in my hands by
Tuesday. While your head is facing upward, I'll be looking toward the
beginning of my street for that glorious brown UPS truck.

BOB

Tom King

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Apr 19, 2003, 7:31:56 PM4/19/03
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Let me know how your WT will sound. I became dislike of silver plated
trumpet becasue I had to clean it often. I am getting gold-plated
SuperChops soon. I felt it was open compared with my Silver-plated
Jazz.

Larry Smithee

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ddal...@aol.com (THEOldMan) wrote in message news:<35ffbab.03033...@posting.google.com>...
> "Tommy T." <thomas....@att.net> wrote in message news:<b67k49$2hl7o$1...@ID-134792.news.dfncis.de>...
> > "Gene Monteith" <gmon...@columbus.rr.com> wrote I do know
> > > that the Muslim God is the God of Abraham, the same as Christians and
> > Jews.
> >
>
>
> This being the trumpet news group ... what mouthpiece do YOU use?
>
> Just curious.

Although not directed specifically at me, and FWIW, God spoke to me
directed that I should use a Bach 5C.
Larry Smithee

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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hornz...@yahoo.com (Tom King) wrote in message news:<f23353ab.03041...@posting.google.com>...
> If so, it is my right to call FTC and IRS that you are engaging......
***
Re:
Engaging in what Tom, following our mission statement?
Please...

Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

***

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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hornz...@yahoo.com (Tom King) wrote in message news:<f23353ab.03041...@posting.google.com>...
> If so, it is my right to call FTC and IRS that you are engaging......
***
Re:
Engaging in what Tom, following are mission statement?

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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Robert DeSavage <alle...@attbi.comnospam> wrote in message news:<66h2av830a1mn6kcl...@4ax.com>...
***
Being rude won't get you anywhere with me Bob.
I will also be looking down my street this week Bob, but not for a
UPS truck, but rather for a Fed Ex truck with a baritone horn on it
that God is blessing me with.
Congrats on the WT, Great horn.

Mikey Schmidt

www.trumpetofthelord.com

***

Robert DeSavage

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On 20 Apr 2003 21:47:55 -0700, dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of
the Lord Ministry) wrote:

>Being rude won't get you anywhere with me Bob.
>I will also be looking down my street this week Bob, but not for a
>UPS truck, but rather for a Fed Ex truck with a baritone horn on it
>that God is blessing me with.
>Congrats on the WT, Great horn.
>
>Mikey Schmidt
>

Right you are Mikey. Good luck and congrats too about your new bari.
BOB

Larry Smithee

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dynaco...@yahoo.com (The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry) wrote in message news:<e1fe8585.0304...@posting.google.com>...


> Being rude won't get you anywhere with me Bob.

> Mikey Schmidt

Apparently logic has little effect either.
Larry Smithee

General Sherman

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Seminary won't save your soul.


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BSimon2748

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unlurk mode on

> Being rude won't get you anywhere with me Bob.
>
>> Mikey Schmidt
>
>Apparently logic has little effect either.
>Larry Smithee

Hi folks. I looked at this newsgroup for info, since my child plays trumpet,
but I come back just for this thread. It is too much.
A supposed "Christian" who sees his behavior is turning people away from any
real message that might make them turn to Christianity, continues with the same
odd behavior as more and more people block his messages. hmmmm. just baffling.
Entertaining but sad.
back to lurking

Tim Priddy

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On Mon, 21 Apr 2003 11:48:56 -0400, BSimon2748 wrote
(in message <20030421114856...@mb-m13.aol.com>):


> Hi folks. I looked at this newsgroup for info, since my child plays
> trumpet, but I come back just for this thread. It is too much. A supposed
> "Christian" who sees his behavior is turning people away from any real
> message that might make them turn to Christianity, continues with the same
> odd behavior as more and more people block his messages. hmmmm. just
> baffling. Entertaining but sad. back to lurking


What is baffling is that people keep responding to him.

Regards,
--
J. Timothy Priddy

trum...@chartermi.net
Lead, Ride, Side--All Styles--Educator, Arranger, Sight-Reader
Central Michigan Region

John Miller

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BSimon2748 wrote:

> Hi folks. I looked at this newsgroup for info, since my child plays
> trumpet, but I come back just for this thread. It is too much.
> A supposed "Christian" who sees his behavior is turning people away from
> any real message that might make them turn to Christianity, continues with
> the same odd behavior as more and more people block his messages. hmmmm.
> just baffling. Entertaining but sad.

...and no likelihood of change, hence the necessity of killfiling. Hmmm --
just realized -- in 16 years on Usenet, I'd never blocked anyone for
anything except name-calling (or egregious and persistent personal
attacks), but TOTL has become my first exception to that rule.

--
John Miller
NOS...@n4vu.com

Little known fact about Middle Earth: The Hobbits had a very sophisticated
computer network! It was a Tolkien Ring...

The Trumpet of the Lord Ministry

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> Larry Smithee
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Larry your rude comments will not persuade me either, if anything they
just make me wonder why so many people like you have such low self
esteem that they try to lift up themselves by bad mouthing others.
What works for you or other trumpet clones might not work for me, if
you have a problem with that PERHAPS YOU ARE THE ONE WITH A PROBLEM
WITH LOGIC.

I follow principles of reasoning and use them to distinguish what
works the best for me based on what I believe God wants for me to do
and also from what I have learned with trial and error over these last
25 years, which might just be very different from anyone else.
What God wants for me to do might be very different from what God
wants for you to do, that's what makes each and every one of us
different and special.
I am not a trumpet playing clone, never have been since day one, and
after 25 years I will not become one because I am more like an eagle
than just any old bird, I follow the small still voice of the Lord
without any regreats and that voice has told me to play from the heart
and to just be myself.
I do not live to be a man pleaser, but rather a God pleaser because
God trieths my heart.
Mikey

www.trumpetofthelord.com

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