Pedantic post
Richie Bee
tongue...
I just saw three different spellings of it in one thread and they were all
wrong.
;-)
R.
Richie Bee
same way by someone else, who then spelt it differently later in the same
post...
Glad I had an opportunity to clear that one up and hope that no one loses
sleep over it. Actually, you might in fact gain some sleep over it - it's
not very interesting. ;-)
R.
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William Graham
Are you sure? - I would have guessed it was, "Embouchure", but, "tongue"
would have been my second guess anyway.......
Tommy T.
"William Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message: <I would have
guessed it was, "Embouchure",>
Or maybe "amature/amatuer/amater/amatur." I've always assumed that the
prevalence of that one was because there are so many "pro" players on the
list that never have dealt with the concept of an amateur. :)
Tommy T.
Doc
> tongue...
You're just barely squeezing by with that archaic British spelling of
"spelt".
Not a word that rolls off the tunge.
heheheh...
Rich
Actually, I have an excuse. I'm a Brit who moved to a part of Canada that
used to be British colony, that's populated by English, Irish and Canadian
people... my use of the English language and spelling doesn't have a whole
lot of hope! I actually toyed long and hard over spelt vs. spelled and ended
up checking at dictionary.com... found spelt... used it! At least it's
spelt right! ;-)
Rich
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(Not that the US dictionary should take precedence over a Brit dictionary
in this case...!)
--
Jeff Helgesen
http://www.shout.net/~jmh/
Doc
> Rich is okay on this one! My dictionary doesn't list it as archaeic.
> (Not that the US dictionary should take precedence over a Brit dictionary
> in this case...!)
Is that an olde dictionary?
Mike Pearson
jazz...@hotmail.com
> I thought this was going to be about some new kind of minor scale.
Is that like the pedestrian scale, or the lucrative mode? Or perhaps the
fallopian minor scale?
(John McNeil invented the pedestrian scale. When he first thought of it,
it only had one note in it. I think he added one later.)
William Graham
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> Mike Pearson <contrap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I thought this was going to be about some new kind of minor scale.
>
> Is that like the pedestrian scale, or the lucrative mode? Or perhaps the
> fallopian minor scale?
>
Isn't that the scale they used when they wrote, "16 Tons"?
Double C
wrote:
That's some good stuff you all are smoking tonight. Why aren't you
sharing it?
William Graham
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> On Fri, 09 Apr 2004 20:45:56 GMT, "William Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >
> ><jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >news:c56i99$m5b$1...@roundup.shout.net...
> >> Mike Pearson <contrap...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >> > I thought this was going to be about some new kind of minor scale.
> >>
> >> Is that like the pedestrian scale, or the lucrative mode? Or perhaps
the
> >> fallopian minor scale?
> >>
> >
> >Isn't that the scale they used when they wrote, "16 Tons"?
> >
> >> (John McNeil invented the pedestrian scale. When he first thought of
it,
> >> it only had one note in it. I think he added one later.)
That would (of course) have been a pedestrian second above the first
note.......
Doc
> > I thought this was going to be about some new kind of minor scale.
>
> Is that like the pedestrian scale, or the lucrative mode? Or perhaps the
> fallopian minor scale?
Is this Jazz theory, 101 taught by Prof. Norm Crosby?
Charlie Kerr
he neglected to point out the catatonic scale which is particularly
difficult to play because of the muscle rigidity and mental stupor
that it induces.
Charlie Kerr
David
It's not just in this group, but the word that I see misspelled most is
"definitely" spelled "definately".
David
Scott Williams
"David" <drn...@comcast.net> wrote
> It's not just in this group, but the word that I see misspelled most is
> "definitely" spelled "definately".
...and the ever popular "defiantly". That's the one that chaps me. Does
anybody ever actually proof read what they type "before" sending it off?
Sheesh. It makes them look undereducated. Oops, this is the U.S. The least
educated of the 1st world countries. Sheesh!
--
Scott W.
'86-'89 Rocky Mt. Magic D&B
'90 Velvet Knights
'92 Santa Clara Vanguard
Rocky Mountain Brassworks
Metro Monday Jazz
John Miller
> ...and the ever popular "defiantly". That's the one that chaps me. Does
> anybody ever actually proof read what they type "before" sending it off?
> Sheesh. It makes them look undereducated. Oops, this is the U.S. The least
> educated of the 1st world countries. Sheesh!
My apologies in advance, Scott, but it's a slow afternoon, and as long as
we're being pedantic, let me whip out my Strunk and White...
> Does anybody ever actually proof read
proofread
> what they type "before" sending it off?
Quotation marks are not properly used for emphasis.
> It makes them look undereducated.
"Them" is a plural pronoun, which does not match the singular "anybody" to
which it refers.
> The least educated of the 1st world countries.
1) That is a sentence fragment, not a complete sentence.
2) "Least-educated" should be hyphenated.
3) The preferred usage is "first-world."
--
John Miller
love, n.:
When, if asked to choose between your lover
and happiness, you'd skip happiness in a heartbeat.
Scott Williams
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> Scott Williams wrote:
> > ...and the ever popular "defiantly". That's the one that chaps me. Does
> > anybody ever actually proof read what they type "before" sending it off?
> > Sheesh. It makes them look undereducated. Oops, this is the U.S. The
least
> > educated of the 1st world countries. Sheesh!
>
> My apologies in advance, Scott, but it's a slow afternoon, and as long as
> we're being pedantic, let me whip out my Strunk and White...
>
> > Does anybody ever actually proof read
>
> proofread
Outlook split it for me, Spellcheck isn't always right. :)
>
> > what they type "before" sending it off?
>
> Quotation marks are not properly used for emphasis.
Without switching to HTML and pissing off those who can't see it. I decided
it was the lesser of two evils.
>
> > It makes them look undereducated.
>
> "Them" is a plural pronoun, which does not match the singular "anybody" to
> which it refers.
So what would be correct? What does Strunk and White have to say?
>
> > The least educated of the 1st world countries.
>
> 1) That is a sentence fragment, not a complete sentence.
> 2) "Least-educated" should be hyphenated.
> 3) The preferred usage is "first-world."
Again, a spellcheck error. It removed my comma and changed the sentence. It
wouldn't have caught the hyphenation as the two words stand on their own.
Finally, I wasn't incorrect in my usage of 1st world, though it would be
more correct to use the spelling of the number.
There is a fine line between being pedantic and being ridiculous. The fact
that a reference was necessary to show my extremely minor errors is evidence
of crossing that line. The point of the post was to show how simple spelling
and grammar mistakes can make a person seem uneducated or at the least,
careless.
Pick this one apart. I don't care. I'm done. :)
William Graham
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those near the ends of words, where the pronunciation is shortened, or,
"rushed through", so spelling them from the way they sound is
difficult.....I am thankful that I have a spell checker program, or I would
misspell about 50% of these types of words.......
William Graham
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that I can't understand them. For one thing, not everyone who posts to
newsgroupes has English as a native language, so I put myself in their
place, and ask myself how well I would do if I were posting in some other
language. - And, after all, this isn't rec.english.comprehension.whatever
What's important is getting the message through. I happen to be fortunate to
have received a good grammar school English education....Not everyone else
is that lucky.
jazz...@hotmail.com
>
> ...and the ever popular "defiantly". That's the one that chaps me. Does
> anybody ever actually proof read what they type "before" sending it off?
> Sheesh. It makes them look undereducated. Oops, this is the U.S. The least
> educated of the 1st world countries. Sheesh!
Do you always use quotes to indicate stress? One of my pet peeves is
people "using" quotation marks incorrectly. Normally I don't say anything
about it, but since you started it...
Richie Bee
Rich
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Tommy T.
this Spring?
Tommy T. (U.S. trumpet player who knows what is North of the Great Lakes.)
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Scott Williams
point across without using HTML to change the look of the text.
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'92 Santa Clara Vanguard
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--
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'90 Velvet Knights
'92 Santa Clara Vanguard
Rocky Mountain Brassworks
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<jazz...@hotmail.com>
> but since you started it...
I wasn't the original poster. Do your research before you make such a
comment.
Scott Williams
> I wasn't the original poster. Do your research before you make such a
> comment.
Or how about just paying attention. That little "Re:" in front of the post
means I wasn't the one to bring it up. Thought I'd let you know if you
didn't already.
John Miller
> Again, HTML should not be used in usenet. It is the easiest way to get the
> point across without using HTML to change the look of the text.
Again, quotation marks should *not* be used to indicate stress.
--
John Miller
The trouble with money is it costs too much.
Scott Williams
> Scott Williams wrote:
> > Again, HTML should not be used in usenet. It is the easiest way to get
the
> > point across without using HTML to change the look of the text.
>
> Again, quotation marks should *not* be used to indicate stress.
So instead of just sniping, why don't you be helpful and suggest something
better? There's a big difference between being canny and being a prig,
although there's little difference in effort. It's probably harder to be a
prig. Kinda like taking more muscle effort to frown than to smile. Do you
need the exercise that badly?
Greg Evans
>> Again, quotation marks should *not* be used to indicate stress.
>
> So instead of just sniping, why don't you be helpful and suggest
> something better?
Like, for instance, the asterisks on either side of the word "not" in his
post? Instead of just trolling, why don't you be intelligent and actually
pay attention to what you're reading?
William Graham
substitution for quotation marks? - If so, why? It's just as easy to hit the
shift-quote key as it is to hit the shift-8 key.......
John Miller
> So instead of just sniping, why don't you be helpful and suggest something
> better? There's a big difference between being canny and being a prig,
> although there's little difference in effort. It's probably harder to be a
> prig. Kinda like taking more muscle effort to frown than to smile. Do you
> need the exercise that badly?
Woof! Scott! Read before hitting R)eply! My suggestion was embedded in
the message to which you just replied -- and pretty obvious, to boot -- but
you were apparently in such need of contention that you overlooked it.
--
John Miller
Be both a speaker of words and a doer of deeds.
-Homer
jazz...@hotmail.com
> I wasn't the original poster. Do your research before you make such a
> comment.
Scott, chill out. I was talking about your using quotes in that manner,
not starting the thread (which, incidentally, I can't believe I'm still
contributing to).
John Miller
> Along these lines, what does *this* mean? - Are these asterisks a cheap
> substitution for quotation marks? - If so, why? It's just as easy to hit
> the shift-quote key as it is to hit the shift-8 key.......
No, William. If you have a proper newsreader, the words bracketed by
asterisks will show up in bold, without using HTML. Otherwise, you'll just
see asterisks on both ends and know that the writer intended emphasis, but
knew better than to (ab)use quotation marks.
It's a convention that's been used on Usenet for quite some time.
--
John Miller
Usenet admin since the Great Renaming
Man is the only animal that can remain on friendly terms with the
victims he intends to eat until he eats them.
-Samuel Butler (1835-1902)
Scott Williams
people could care less about. This thread has gone into the realm of the
ridiculous. It really shows that Trumpet players really DO have to get in
the last word and are basically snobbish assholes who are consummate players
of the one-upsmanship game... except at parties :) I'm not playing this
stupid game anymore.
--
Scott W.
'86-'89 Rocky Mt. Magic D&B
'90 Velvet Knights
'92 Santa Clara Vanguard
Rocky Mountain Brassworks
Metro Monday Jazz
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Dave Lee
I either bold, or all caps, or unnderline, italics.
Tommy T.
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Rich
kinda half open, and getting more open by the day. I'm guessing the rivers
are all running good now.
Rich
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"Dave Lee" <dave...@aol.comspamnot> wrote
> I either bold, or all caps, or unnderline, italics.
Which is either rtf or html. Both which should not be used on Usenet.
Tommy T.
I once finished first mixed pair, second overall in a 24 hour map and
compass run across the Lewis Hills. Nice country.
Tommy
"Rich" <ri...@richiebee.ca> wrote
William Graham
> William Graham wrote:
> > Along these lines, what does *this* mean? - Are these asterisks a cheap
> > substitution for quotation marks? - If so, why? It's just as easy to hit
> > the shift-quote key as it is to hit the shift-8 key.......
>
> No, William. If you have a proper newsreader, the words bracketed by
> asterisks will show up in bold, without using HTML. Otherwise, you'll
just
> see asterisks on both ends and know that the writer intended emphasis, but
> knew better than to (ab)use quotation marks.
>
> It's a convention that's been used on Usenet for quite some time.
> --
> John Miller
Well, I guess I don't have a "proper" newsreader.....I have Outlook Express,
and all I get when someone puts asterisks at the front and back of a word is
asterisks at the front and back of the word.....When I want to emphasize a
word, I put it in CAPS.
John Miller
> Well, I guess I don't have a "proper" newsreader.....I have Outlook
> Express,
:-)
and all I get when someone puts asterisks at the front and back
> of a word is asterisks at the front and back of the word.....When I want
> to emphasize a word, I put it in CAPS.
That'll work. Another thing that people _used_ to use more even more often
than asterisks was underscores.
--
John Miller
What if everything is an illusion and nothing exists? In that case, I
definitely overpaid for my carpet.
-Woody Allen, "Without Feathers"
Linda Fox
>That'll work. Another thing that people _used_ to use more even more often
>than asterisks was underscores.
Used to? I still do. Are you trying to tell me that is now "_so_ last
year!"?
Linda ff
Greg Evans
> Well, I guess I don't have a "proper" newsreader.....I have
> at the front and back of a word is asterisks at the front and
> back of the word.
Here's a nifty little program that someone pointed out to me a few months
ago, called OE-QuoteFix:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/downloads.php
It does all sorts of nice things to make your email and newsgroup messages
more readable, including making *this* bold, /this/ italic, and _this_
underlined. Very easy to set up and forget; it loads when OE loads. Pretty
soon you'll wonder how you got along without it....
Greg Evans
John Miller
:-)
Fashion is so fickle. No, really, what I was trying to convey was that
underscores used to be used more often than asterisks, not that underscores
were passé.
--
John "but then again, maybe they are" Miller
Avert misunderstanding by calm, poise, and balance.
Dave Lee
All caps should not be used? By what convention?
Dave Lee
Twice you said you were done with this thread, once way back you said "Pick
this one apart. I don't care. I'm done. :)"
and then "I'm not playing this stupid game anymore", followed by 3-4 more
posts.
??
jazz...@hotmail.com
that. The precursor to Unix-based newsreaders like TIN were "Notes"
groups on the old PLATO system (now owned by Novanet). Come to think of
it, we had the benefit of "instant messaging" back then, too (something
called TERM-talk).
I'm feeling old...
John Miller <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> :-)
> Fashion is so fickle. No, really, what I was trying to convey was that
> underscores used to be used more often than asterisks, not that underscores
> were pass?.
John Miller
> My use of understcores dates back to the late 1970s, if you can believe
> that. The precursor to Unix-based newsreaders like TIN were "Notes"
> groups on the old PLATO system (now owned by Novanet). Come to think of
> it, we had the benefit of "instant messaging" back then, too (something
> called TERM-talk).
>
> I'm feeling old...
Notes groups? You had Notes groups?! Why, back in my day, in order to read
Usenet, we had to grep the news spool. And we liked it.
(Apologies to the Goon Show, I think...or was it Monty Python?)
--
John Miller
One of the pleasures of reading old letters is the knowledge that they need
no answer.
-George Gordon, Lord Byron
jazz...@hotmail.com
>
> Notes groups? You had Notes groups?! Why, back in my day, in order to read
> Usenet, we had to grep the news spool. And we liked it.
GREP? You had GREP? Why, in my day, we had to write AWK scripts to parse
STDOUT from /var/terminal, and that was just to see our prompt. And we
LIKED it.
> (Apologies to the Goon Show, I think...or was it Monty Python?)
Python/SNL. Though I know the Goon Show!
Doc
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>
> > (Apologies to the Goon Show, I think...or was it Monty Python?)
>
> Python/SNL. Though I know the Goon Show!
I know there was a SNL skit that Dana Carvey and ....? did where they were
a couple of old curmudgeons complaining about modern society - "...all this
fancy dental care. In my day we never brushed or flossed. We got pyorrhea
and we LIKED it that way....."
Tommy T.
I'm *willing* to give it a /try/.
Greg Evans
>> Here's a nifty little program that someone pointed out to me a few
>> months ago, called OE-QuoteFix:
[snip]
>
> I'm *willing* to give it a /try/.
I'm curious what you think of it...is it really as cool as I think it is, or
am I just a hopeless geek?
Tommy T.
> Tommy T. wrote:
>> I'm *willing* to give it a /try/.
>
> I'm curious what you think of it...is it really as cool as I think it
> is, or am I just a hopeless geek?
This is an easy to use program which is printing different levels of quotes
(indentations actually) in different colors to make it easy to sort out the
sometimes long strings of prior messages that appear in these threads. It
cleary has allowed me to use bold and italics so I won't have erroneously to
put book titles in parentheses any longer.
Thanks.
Tommy T.
funky trumpet
Couldn't, not could.
Tim Bales
sorry to enter this fray late and loud, hey, I play trumpet, what can I say
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