Television evangelist Falwell dies at 73 By SUE LINDSEY, Associated
Press Writer
14 minutes ago
LYNCHBURG, Va. - The Rev. Jerry Falwell, the television evangelist who
founded the Moral Majority and used it to mold the religious right
into a political force, died Tuesday shortly after being found
unconscious in his office at Liberty University, a school executive
said. He was 73.
Ron Godwin, the university's executive vice president, said Falwell,
73, was found unresponsive around 10:45 a.m. and taken to Lynchburg
General Hospital. "CPR efforts were unsuccessful," he said.
Godwin said he was not sure what caused the collapse, but he said
Falwell "has a history of heart challenges."
"I had breakfast with him, and he was fine at breakfast," Godwin said.
"He went to his office, I went to mine, and they found him
unresponsive."
Falwell had survived two serious health scares in early 2005. He was
hospitalized for two weeks with what was described as a viral
infection, then was hospitalized again a few weeks later after going
into respiratory arrest. Later that year, doctors found a 70 percent
blockage in an artery, which they opened with stents.
Falwell credited his Moral Majority with getting millions of
conservative voters registered, electing Ronald Reagan and
giving Republicans Senate control in 1980.
"I shudder to think where the country would be right now if the
religious right had not evolved," Falwell said when he stepped down as
Moral Majority president in 1987.
The fundamentalist church that Falwell started in an abandoned
bottling plant in 1956 grew into a religious empire that includes the
22,000-member Thomas Road Baptist Church, the "Old Time Gospel Hour"
carried on television stations around the country and 7,700-student
Liberty University. He built Christian elementary schools, homes for
unwed mothers and a home for alcoholics.
He also founded Liberty University in Lynchburg, which began as
Lynchburg Baptist College in 1971.
Liberty University's commencement is scheduled for Saturday, with
former U.S. House Speaker Newt Gingrich as the featured speaker.
In 2006, Falwell marked the 50th anniversary of his church and spoke
out on stem cell research, saying he sympathized with people with
medical problems, but that any medical research must pass a three-part
test: "Is it ethically correct? Is it biblically correct? Is it
morally correct?"
Falwell had once opposed mixing preaching with politics, but he
changed his view and in 1979, founded the Moral Majority. The
political lobbying organization grew to 6.5 million members and raised
$69 million as it supported conservative politicians and campaigned
against abortion, homosexuality, pornography and bans on school
prayer.
Falwell became the face of the religious right, appearing on national
magazine covers and on television talk shows. In 1983, U.S. News &
World Report named him one of 25 most influential people in America.
In 1984, he sued Hustler magazine for $45 million, charging that he
was libeled by an ad parody depicting him as an incestuous drunkard. A
federal jury found the fake ad did not libel him, but awarded him
$200,000 for emotional distress. That verdict was overturned, however,
in a landmark 1988 U.S. Supreme Court decision that held that
even pornographic spoofs about a public figure enjoy First Amendment
protection.
The case was depicted in the 1996 movie "The People v. Larry Flynt."
With Falwell's high profile came frequent criticism, even from fellow
ministers. The Rev. Billy Graham once rebuked him for political
sermonizing on "non-moral issues."
Falwell quit the Moral Majority in 1987, saying he was tired of being
"a lightning rod" and wanted to devote his time to his ministry and
Liberty University. But he remained outspoken and continued to draw
criticism for his remarks.
Days after Sept. 11, 2001, Falwell essentially blamed feminists, gays,
lesbians and liberal groups for bringing on the terrorist attacks. He
later apologized.
In 1999, he told an evangelical conference that the Antichrist was a
male Jew who was probably already alive. Falwell later apologized for
the remark but not for holding the belief. A month later, his National
Liberty Journal warned parents that Tinky Winky, a purple, purse-
toting character on television's "Teletubbies" show, was a gay role
model and morally damaging to children.
Falwell was re-energized after family values proved important in the
2004 presidential election. He formed the Faith and Values Coalition
as the "21st Century resurrection of the Moral Majority," to seek anti-
abortion judges, a constitutional amendment banning same-sex marriage
and more conservative elected officials.
The big, blue-eyed preacher with a booming voice started his
independent Baptist church with 35 members. From his living room, he
began broadcasting his message of salvation and raising the donations
that helped his ministry grow.
"He was one of the first to come up with ways to use television to
expand his ministry," said Robert Alley, a retired University of
Richmond religion professor who studied and criticized Falwell's
career.
In 1987, Falwell took over the PTL (Praise the Lord) ministry in South
Carolina after Jim Bakker's troubles. Falwell slid fully clothed down
a theme park water slide after donors met his fund-raising goal to
help rescue the rival ministry. He gave it up seven months later after
learning the depth of PTL's financial problems.
Largely because of the Bakker and Jimmy Swaggart scandals, donations
to Falwell's ministry dropped from $135 million in 1986 to less than
$100 million the following year. Hundreds of workers were laid off and
viewers of his television show dwindled.
Liberty University was $73 million in debt and on the verge of
bankruptcy, and his "Old Time Gospel Hour" was $16 million in debt.
By the mid-1990s, two local businessmen with long ties to Falwell
began overseeing the finances and helped get companies to forgive
debts or write them of as losses.
Falwell devoted much of his time keeping his university afloat. He
dreamed that Liberty would grow to 50,000 students and be to
fundamentalist Christians what Notre Dame is to Roman Catholics and
Brigham Young University is to Mormons. He was an avid sports fan who
arrived at Liberty basketball games to the cheers of students.
Falwell's father and his grandfather were militant atheists, he wrote
in his autobiography. He said his father made a fortune off his
businesses - including bootleging during Prohibition.
As a student, Falwell was a star athlete and a prankster who was
barred from giving his high school valedictorian's speech after he was
caught using counterfeit lunch tickets his senior year.
He ran with a gang of juvenile delinquents before becoming a born-
again Christian at age 19. He turned down an offer to play
professional baseball and transferred from Lynchburg College to
Baptist Bible College in Springfield, Mo.
"My heart was burning to serve Christ," he once said in an interview.
"I knew nothing would ever be the same again."
Falwell is survived by his wife, Macel, and three children, Jerry,
Jonathan and Jeannie
"
I was blessed to have went to Seminary with Jonathan, and I took a few
classes where I actually sat in the very next desk next to him.
Jonathan is a good man and like his father he has a Pastors heart.
Jonathan can be trusted. With Jonathan, Dr. Elmer Towns and many
others, Jerry leaves Thomas Road Church in very good hands. A friend
of mine named Ed Nadolny from BUA once dated Jeanie (When Ed attended
LU)for a short time.
For those of us who knew Dr. Falwell personally , he always put his
family before his church, and he always put his church before his
public personality. Dr Falwell was a very good local pastor who showed
God's love to his church, he cared for every church member at Thomas
Road like they were all members of his family.
Jerry, was not perfect. Many times he made decisions that I did not
agree with, but no matter how Jerry administered I always loved and
respected him. Overall the real Jerry was a faithful moral man who
cared about people. Jerry was from the old school hard shell
Independent Baptist way of thinking, but over the years he became more
progressive, more mainstream evangelical , what the hard shells would
call 'liberal". Jerry never once compromised on his stand on the word
of God.
Jerry as a friend was a prankster, and he was always playing practical
jokes on everyone all of the time . He got the biggest kick out of
sneaking up behind me and running up and scaring me by lifting me up
off the ground from my shoulders. As a friend Jerry also went out of
his way to try and bless you. Jerry was always supportive of my
trumpet playing, and when I played in the LU Marching Band and the
OTGH Orchestra, Jerry often went out of his way to compliment my
trumpet playing to many others which would then get back to me. Jerry
in particular praised my ability to play the high notes on the
trumpet, which he called "The money notes". Jerry felt that I was
first called to be a Christian trumpet player more so than to be a
Pastor, per se, at a time when pastoring was the main focus of my
ministry. It was an honor to have played the trumpet for Jerry at TRBC
and an honor to open for him (And also for LU's Dr. Charles Hughes)
Jerry was a man deeply devoted to faith in God. Jerry was a big fan of
the writings of Oswald Chambers. Dr Falwell was also a big fan of the
late B.R. Lakin, and his mentor Dr. John Rawlings, who at around 93
years of age has now outlived him. Dr A. Ray Stanford, author of the
Handbook of Personal Evangelism which the late Dr. Falwell and Dr.
Curtis Hutson (Dr. Stanford gave Dr. Hutson his D.D.)both admired, is
also still alive at age 90. Jerry was a big sports fan, and he wanted
to turn LU's sports such as the LU football program into the
Evangelical version of Notre Dame.
Jerry had a lot of things about LU to be proud of, just an example of
three things are LU's biology Dept., LU's # 1 ranked debate team, and
LU's womens basketball program.
Before his death Jerry saw his approx 40+ year goal of moving Thomas
Road Church to Liberty Mountain come to pass"
- Dr. Michael Schmidt
www.trumpetofthelord.com
Jeff , posting that link was very disrespectful at this time, I will
not even respond to this , nor even sign this post
Mission accomplished.
Disrespecting a family that is in mourning, very disrespectful and
very low class
Dying doesn't erase a lifetime of bigotry.
Of course, if you hadn't decided to post OT material in this
newsgroup, I wouldn't have said anything about it.
Regardless, the link contains some very factual biographical
information about Falwell that your fawning cut-and-paste conveniently
omits. Chalk it up to correcting the record.
> On May 15, 2:54 pm, drmichaeleschm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>
>> Disrespecting a family that is in mourning, very disrespectful and
>> very low class
>
> Dying doesn't erase a lifetime of bigotry.
>
I'm no Falwell fan but where is your evidence of a "lifetime of bigotry".
> Of course, if you hadn't decided to post OT material in this
> newsgroup, I wouldn't have said anything about it.
>
Good point.
> Regardless, the link contains some very factual biographical
> information about Falwell that your fawning cut-and-paste conveniently
> omits. Chalk it up to correcting the record.
>
>
Antiblog.com? So what do you fall under? Naive or stupid?
> I'm no Falwell fan but where is your evidence of a "lifetime
> of bigotry".
Ten seconds on Google gives us evidence straight from the horse's mouth:
http://www.google.com/search?q=jerry+falwell+quotes
The link cross-links to news accounts and Falwell's own words. What's
the problem?
Just last week Falwell attributed 9/11 to gays, pro-choicers, etc.
The guy was a total flake, and a bigot to boot.
Sorry for his family, but I'd sooner shed a tear for our resident
village idiot (hi Mikey!) than Falwell.
> So what do you fall under? Naive or stupid?
Just part of the majority of Americans who reject the politics of
bigotry and hate speech.
Whatsa mattah with you Jeff? Don't you realize that death instantly
erases a lifetime of being a hypocritical, pompous windbag and
professional horses's ass?
Geez...
;-)
*biting tongue*
You mean like Falwell, who disrespected the families of thousands
of victims of the 9/11 terrorist attack? Yeah, that was low class.
And disrespecting the families of countless AIDS victims. Yeah,
that was low class. Jerry was a hate-mongering bigot. It's no
wonder a hate-mongering bigot like would be one of his followers,
"dokkktor" Mikkkey Schmidt-for-brains.
Well, since the early 1970's, he provided all the
evidence anyone needs, in his own words. Virulent
hate-filled bigotry against Black Africans, African-
Americans, Jews,homosexuals, liberals, Muslims, Democrats,
defenders of the US Constitution, and more.
That amounts to calling Jerry a tone-deaf idiot.
Funny how all the people that Mikkkey cites as
admiring his playing are either his own sokkkpuppets
or they're dead.
Religion has convinced people that there's an invisible man living in
the sky, who watches everything you do every minute of every day.
And
the invisible man has a list of ten specific things he doesn't want
you to do. And if you do any of these things, he will send you to a
special place, of burning and fire and smoke and torture and anguish
for you to live forever, and suffer and burn and scream until the end
of time. But he loves you. He loves you and he needs money.
"The left just never seems to do what is right" - Dr. Michael Schmidt
> campaigned
> against ...bans on school prayer.
Yes, there should be a required reading from the Koran each day,
Allahu Akbar.
I'll make a deal, I'll stop posting about him if Michael does.
---
May 1979: Falwell, a televangelist and Baptist pastor in Lynchburg,
Va., is recruited by far-right activists Howard Phillips, Ed McAteer
and Paul Weyrich to form the Moral Majority, a vehicle for bringing
fundamentalist Protestants into the Republican Party with the aim of
unseating President Jimmy Carter. The move was an about-face for
Falwell, who advised his congregation in 1965, "Preachers are not
called to be politicians but soul winners."
March 1980: Falwell tells an Anchorage rally about a conversation with
President Carter at the White House. Commenting on a January breakfast
meeting, Falwell claimed to have asked Carter why he had "practicing
homosexuals" on the senior staff at the White House. According to
Falwell, Carter replied, "Well, I am president of all the American
people, and I believe I should represent everyone." When others who
attended the White House event insisted that the exchange never
happened, Falwell responded that his account "was not intended to be a
verbatim report," but rather an "honest portrayal" of Carter's
position.
August 1980: After Southern Baptist Convention President Bailey Smith
tells a Dallas Religious Right gathering that "God Almighty does not
hear the prayer of a Jew," Falwell gives a similar view. "I do not
believe," he told reporters, "that God answers the prayer of any
unredeemed Gentile or Jew." After a meeting with an American Jewish
Committee rabbi, he changed course, telling an interviewer on NBC's
"Meet the Press" that "God hears the prayers of all persons....God
hears everything."
1980-81: After the election of Ronald Reagan, the Moral Majority
begins advocating for constitutional amendments banning abortion and
restoring school-sponsored prayer. The group also demands tax aid to
religious education.
September 1982: Falwell announces a drive to register 1 million new
voters before the November elections.
July 1984: Falwell is forced to pay gay activist Jerry Sloan $5,000
after losing a court battle. During a TV debate in Sacramento, Falwell
denied calling the gay-oriented Metropolitan Community Churches "brute
beasts" and "a vile and Satanic system" that will "one day be utterly
annihilated and there will be a celebration in heaven." When Sloan
insisted he had a tape, Falwell promised $5,000 if he could produce
it. Sloan did so, Falwell refused to pay and Sloan successfully sued.
Falwell appealed, with his attorney charging that the Jewish judge in
the case was prejudiced. He lost again and was forced to pay an
additional $2,875 in sanctions and court fees.
November 1984: Reports from the Federal Election Commission indicate
that Falwell's "I Love America Committee," a political action
committee formed in 1983, was a flop. The PAC raised $485,000 in its
first year--but spent $413,000 to do so.
May 1985: Falwell apologizes to a Jewish group for seeking a
"Christian" America. From now on, he says, he will use the term "Judeo-
Christian."
January 1987: Falwell holds a Washington news conference to announce
that he is changing the name of the Moral Majority to the Liberty
Foundation. The new name never catches on and is soon abandoned.
October 1987: The Federal Election Commission fines Falwell $6,000 for
transferring $6.7 million in funds intended for his ministry to
political committees.
November 1987: Falwell tells reporters he is stepping down as head of
the Moral Majority and retiring from politics. "From now on, my real
platform is the pulpit, not politics," he says at a news conference.
February 1988: The U.S. Supreme Court strikes down a $200,000 jury
award to Falwell for "emotional distress" he suffered because of a
Hustler magazine parody. Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, usually a
Falwell favorite, wrote the unanimous opinion in Hustler v. Falwell,
ruling that the First Amendment protects free speech.
June 1989: Falwell announces that the Moral Majority will shut down
its offices and disband.
January 1991: Siding with Americans United, the Virginia Supreme Court
unanimously rejects Falwell's quest for $60 million in state bonds for
his Liberty University. During the litigation, Falwell tried to
camouflage the school's rigidly fundamentalist character, telling the
court that the school would no longer discriminate in hiring or force
students to attend mandatory chapel (renamed convocation). All the
while, Falwell assured his congregation that Liberty had not changed,
insisting chapel will be mandatory "until Jesus comes."
January 1993: In the wake of Bill Clinton's election to the
presidency, Falwell mails fund-raising letters nationwide asking
people to vote on whether he should reactivate the Moral Majority. He
later refuses to say how much money the effort raised and tells
reporters he has no intention of reactivating the organization.
February 1993: The Internal Revenue Service determines that funds from
Falwell's Old Time Gospel Hour program were illegally funneled to a
political action committee. The IRS forced Falwell to pay $50,000 and
retroactively revoked the Old Time Gospel Hour's tax-exempt status for
1986-87.
March 1993: Despite his promise to Jewish groups to stop referring to
America as a "Christian nation," Falwell gives a sermon saying, "We
must never allow our children to forget that this is a Christian
nation. We must take back what is rightfully ours."
September 1993: Falwell announces he will not reactivate the Moral
Majority but will instead do political work through a group called the
Liberty Alliance.
March 1994: Falwell announces the formation of a new group, Mission
America, which he claims will mobilize like-minded clergy across the
country. Falwell describes the group as a "personal ministry" and says
it will have no budget or staff. Nothing more is heard from it.
May 1994: Jerry Falwell's Liberty Flame newspaper runs an article
calling TV preacher John Hagee a heretic for saying Jews can be saved
without accepting Jesus Christ. Falwell urges every pastor to "take
this information to the podium next Sunday."
September 1994: Falwell endorses former Iran-Contra figure Oliver
North for a U.S. Senate seat in Virginia. Falwell glosses over North's
legal problems, saying they happened "in the past."
1994-1995: Falwell is criticized for using his "Old Time Gospel Hour"
to hawk a scurrilous video called "The Clinton Chronicles" that makes
a number of unsubstantiated charges against President Bill Clinton--
among them that he is a drug addict and that he arranged the murders
of political enemies in Arkansas. Despite claims he had no ties to the
project, evidence surfaced that Falwell helped bankroll the venture
with $200,000 paid to a group called Citizens for Honest Government
(CHG). CHG's Pat Matrisciana later admitted that Falwell and he staged
an infomercial interview promoting the video in which a silhouetted
reporter said his life was in danger for investigating Clinton.
(Matrisciana himself posed as the reporter.) "That was Jerry's idea to
do that," Matrisciana recalled. "He thought that would be dramatic."
April 1996: Falwell hosts a "Washington for Jesus" rally in the
nation's capital where he holds a mock trial of America for engaging
in seven deadly sins: persecution of the church, homosexuality,
abortion, racism, occultism, addictions and HIV/AIDS (acronym:
PHAROAH). He declares the nation guilty "of violating God's law."
July 1996: Falwell announces a series of "God Save America" rallies in
evangelical churches to stop the United States from entering a "post-
Christian" era.
February 1997: Falwell sponsors a pastors' briefing in Washington,
during which he threatens to form a new political party if Republicans
waver on abortion.
June 1997: Falwell announces a plan to urge fundamentalist churches to
intervene in partisan politics. He vows to send sample candidate
endorsement sermons that pastors can read in their churches and says
he has already done this in the Virginia attorney general's race.
Falwell drops the plan after being reported to the IRS by Americans
United.
August 1997: Falwell pleads for funds for a new group, the National
Committee for the Restoration of the Judeo-Christian Ethic. In a fund-
raising letter, he promises to "get back in the ring" and be a
"spiritual George Foreman." He pledges to register 4 million new
voters and mobilize 50,000 pastors. After publishing a couple of fund-
raising letters, the group is never heard from again.
November 1997: Falwell accepts $3.5 million from a front group
representing controversial Korean evangelist Sun Myung Moon to ease
Liberty University's financial woes. The donation, and several Falwell
appearances at Moon conferences, raised eyebrows because Moon claims
to be the messiah sent to complete the failed mission of Jesus Christ,
a doctrine sharply at odds with Falwell's fundamentalist Christian
theology. (In 1978, before the Moon money started flowing, Falwell
told Esquire magazine, "Reverend Sun Myung Moon is like the plague: he
exploits boys and girls, and he should be exported.")
February 1998: Falwell accepts a $70-million donation from insurance
magnate Art Williams, for his debt-ridden Liberty University. Falwell
says the contribution will free him to focus on politics again.
April 1998: Confronted on national television with a controversial
quote from America Can Be Saved!, a published collection of his
sermons, Falwell denies having written the book or had anything to do
with it. In the 1979 work, Falwell wrote, "I hope to live to see the
day when, as in the early days of our country, we won't have any
public schools. The churches will have taken them over again and
Christians will be running them. What a happy day that will be!"
Despite Falwell's denial, Sword of the Lord Publishing, which produced
the book, confirms that Falwell wrote it.
October 1998: In a fund-raising letter, Falwell announces plans to
expand his ministry and to "immediately rededicate myself to use my
God-given skills as a national spokesman for morality and return to
the moral/political arena....[W]ith God's anointing and your prayerful
support, you will soon think I am omnipresent."
January 1999: Falwell tells a pastors' conference in Kingsport, Tenn.,
that the Antichrist prophesied in the Bible is alive today and "of
course he'll be Jewish."
February 1999: Falwell becomes the object of nationwide ridicule after
his National Liberty Journal newspaper issues a "parents alert"
warning that Tinky Winky, a character on the popular PBS children's
show "Teletubbies," might be gay. (Americans United was responsible
for releasing the information to the national press.)
---
RIH
Hi Michael,
My name is Paul. I am a left leaning Christian and blogger. Once in a
while I think I may even do something right.
First of all, I am not convinced that this is the place to be cutting
and pasting an article about Falwell or anyone else who isn't related
to the trumpet. Unless of course Rev. Jerry had some chops, if that is
the case you have my apologies.
You may believe that Jerry Falwell was a great example for Jesus
Christ. I believe that he is one of the worst ever. That is the great
thing about beliefs and opinions, we are all entitled to them.
Now, if you do choose to paste an article about a figure as polarizing
as Jerry Falwell, don't be surprised when people have negative
comments about him. By posting that article you have opened the
discussion, if by opening that discussion, you hear thoughts that
disagree with yours that offend you, tough. I am sorry, but you opened
the can of worms, don't be angry if someone decides to make spaghetti
with it.
Finally, to quote that great theologian Stan Lee...
'nuff said.
> Jeff <jeff.h...@gmail.com> wrote in news:1179259502.921138.199060
> @l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com:
>
>> On May 15, 2:54 pm, drmichaeleschm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>>>
>>> Disrespecting a family that is in mourning, very disrespectful and
>>> very low class
>>
>> Dying doesn't erase a lifetime of bigotry.
>
> I'm no Falwell fan but where is your evidence of a "lifetime of
> bigotry".
Many years of hearing his drivel doesn't count? His supporting apartheid?
Strenuously opposing the civil rights movement? Decades of unrelenting,
unabashed anti-semitic, anti-gay, and anti-minority rants?
Falwell was a racist, a liar and a jerk, and that's the *nicest* thing i
can say for him.
cd
--
The difference between immorality and immortality is "T". I like Earl
Grey.
But why would anyone expect Illinois professional trumpet player Jeff
Helgesen to act professional ?
Never mind the fact that Jeff Helgesen knows that
I once played trumpet for Dr. Falwell, who passed away TODAY, but even
on today, Jeff Helgesen can not resis being a jacka@@ , so what does
Jeff Helgeson due to help the grieving, he disrespects both Dr.
Falwell and a former trumpet player of his on the day that he died.
Some people just were not raised RIGHT
Ugh...
So? I've been on the same stage as Mangione, too. Doesn't make me
anything at all.
> Some people just were not raised RIGHT
Thanks, "Dr" Holey Sock Puppet (dHSP). I'm proud to have brought up
to revile bigotry. You?
"Jeff" <jeff.h...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1179281569.6...@p77g2000hsh.googlegroups.com...
This agnostic suggests an amen here.
Joe
Is there anything about the commentary of one of Usenet's alltime
champion assclowns (short and pudgy class) demonstrated here that
deviates one iota from his norm? I.e. anything that suggests a
capacity for rational, cohesive, non-asinine, non-arrested thought
emanating from a mind that isn't frantically occupied 24/7 with
marinating in delusional constructs?
Just thought I'd toss that out there...
On 5/15/07 21:21, in article
1179278485....@w5g2000hsg.googlegroups.com,
"drmichae...@yahoo.com" <drmichae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 15, 7:37 pm, Jeff <jeff.helge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Just until 2000. I wouldn't normally post this, but since Schidt
>> brought it up...
> Again, Jeff Helgesen, disrespecting my name like that is very
> unprofessional.
>
> But why would anyone expect Illinois professional trumpet player Jeff
> Helgesen to act professional ?
Uh oh Jeff. When he starts referring to you like that he is apparently
ready to go completely nutbag crazy.
> Never mind the fact that Jeff Helgesen knows that
> I once played trumpet for Dr. Falwell, who passed away TODAY, but even
> on today, Jeff Helgesen can not resis being a jacka@@ , so what does
> Jeff Helgeson due to help the grieving, he disrespects both Dr.
> Falwell and a former trumpet player of his on the day that he died.
> Some people just were not raised RIGHT
> Ugh...
>
Jeff, don't you know that the "dr" once played trumpet for dr falwell? Why
there must even be someone somewhere (besides the "dr" who will even verify
... Oh, wait ... Never mind.
Anyway. how DARE you disrespect two bigots in one day?
Shawn
On 5/16/07 00:03, in article
1179288218.1...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com, "Doc"
<docsa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Nice toss!
Mikey
Well, here is a quote from Jerry that you might not have ever heard,
now that he has passed away I
will credit it to him, because I personally heard him say it more than
once:
"The only bad publicity is NO publicity".- Dr. Jerry Falwell
Now filter Jerry's public statements thru that lense.
Try to instead look at Jerry's life based upon what he ACCOMPLISHED.
Based upon the personal goals that Jerry set for himself, which
looking back at them at the time seemed lofty even though today Jerry
lived to see all of them fulfilled.
Jerry Falwells # 1 goal in life was first to build a successful
healthy Christin family.
Jerry Jr is a successful Atty, Jonathan will replace him as Pastor and
as his friend I will tell you that he has a heart of gold which he
received from his mother, Jeanie is a successful MD. Macel , who
herself graduated from LU with a 4.0 average is well, the nicest
person that you could ever meet. Throughout this I really feel sorry
for Macel having to now live without Jerry after all these years. I
can not tell you much about Gene.
Jerry's# 2 goal was to build a successful church. With Dr. Elmer
Town's and Dr. Jim
Moon at his side Thomas Road church became the textbook for the mega
church. Jerry was a loving and devoted Pastor. I know from first hand
experience that anyone who would tell you anything different is lying.
Jerry was more concerned with the members of Thomas Road Church than
he was politics.Jerry often turned down chances to be on camera
because he was fulfilling a duty for a member of Thomas Road. If Jerry
had a choice to minister at a LU or Thomas Road Church event or to be
on CNN, Jerry would have picked to minister to the school or church
every time, 100 % of the time, and anyone who knows Jerry knew this to
be true.
Dr. Jerry Falwell built the largest evangelical ministry of all times.
LU has a Seminary, law school, has had the # 1 rated debate team in
the country for over a decade. Liberty has an ice hockey/ice skating
rink, a first class tournament style swimming pool, Dave's place, a
wonderful football stadium and athletic facility's, a 9,000 seat
basketball arena. Jerry built the Liberty Home Bible Institute and the
Liberty Bible Institute. Jerry created the Elim home for alcoholic
men, and the Liberty Godparent Home for unwed mothers. Jerry built
Lynchburg Christian Accademy, one of the finest christian schools in
the nation. LU has its own Christian camp, along with the Center, an
intercity children's ministry that reached out to about 500 Lynchburg
intercity kids each week. LU grads are pastoring over 7,000 churches.
LU has sent out tens of thousands of missionaries.
Dr. Falwell built the largest evangelical Christian college in the
world. I predict that Liberty University will have 50,000 students by
the year 2020 (20,000 on campus and 30,000 external degree program
students).
DR Michael Schmidt
You sound like you watch The O'Reilly Factor and have read Culture Warrior.
I also enjoy both.
I'm more of a Colbert Report guy, thanks.
> I also enjoy both.
Sorry to hear that.
>Most of you only seem to view Dr. Falwell based on his public
>statements.
>
Right now Mikey, Dr. Falwell's death and his accomplishments have
nothing to do with the purpose of this news group - TRUMPET. While his
death is newsworthy, there's a multitude of online avenues elsewhere
on the Net to learn about his life and times without having to read it
here on RMMT. It's fine that you eulogize him briefly, but when you
flood the bandwidth with repetition and redundancy, now it turns into
an issue where you suggest Falwell to be considered an icon and
someone to be worshipped in our eyes and hearts. Let him rest in peace
just like the many other good people (Christian or not) on Earth that
have died or will die today.
Re:
Dr Falwell did a lot of things with trumpets. Liberty is one of only a
few Christian schools that offers students a chance to go to a
Christian college and yet still have many chances to play the trumpet
such as a performance major or to participate in a marching band.
While his
> death is newsworthy, there's a multitude of online avenues elsewhere
> on the Net to learn about his life and times without having to read it
> here on RMMT. It's fine that you eulogize him briefly, but when you
> flood the bandwidth with repetition and redundancy, now it turns into
> an issue where you suggest Falwell to be considered an icon and
> someone to be worshipped in our eyes and hearts.
I never sujested that.
Falwell would have been the first one to have told you to worship
Christ not himself.
Let him rest in peace
Hey, I tried to, but then the unprofessional attacks came thrown at me
and jerry.
> just like the many other good people (Christian or not) on Earth that
> have died or will die today.
For Vieweing and Funeral Arrangements see:
> kitekrazy wrote:
>
>> I'm no Falwell fan but where is your evidence of a "lifetime
>> of bigotry".
>
> Ten seconds on Google gives us evidence straight from the horse's mouth:
>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=jerry+falwell+quotes
>
>
Of course in this day it's not hard to be labled a bigot or racist. If one
diagrees homosexuality they are labled a bigot or hate gays.
If someone says something negative about blacks, they are a racist.
That formula gets old. (yawn)
Looks like this thread will dominate this group for days. Amazing how much
control Mickey has over us.
I took the bait as well. Now I'm done.
Falwell was an ardent supporter of Jim Crow segregation
in the US, and also a supporter of apartheid in South
Africa. That's a litte more than "saying something negative
about blacks". He claimed that racial discrimination in
the US and SA was God's will. That's racism, no matter how
you may try to sugar-coat it.
He did more than to simply disagree with homosexuality.
He said that homosexuals were the cause of the 9/11
terrorist attacks.
Falwell was a bigot. Your defence of him is absurd
(or "ubsurd" as "dokkktor" Mikkkey spells it).
"I feel that's fairly much English"
(Who can ID that famous music-biz quote?)
Since your so-called "dokkktorate" didn't include elementary
language skills, here's the definition from the dictionary:
once (adverb)
3: at some indefinite time in the past
Maybe if you knew how to use a dictionary you could have
gotten a real degree, rather than a fake one from a diploma
mill like your Kook Klucks Kollege at Dimwit Drawl Klaniversity.
> You havent a clue
It's spelled kkklue, Mikkkey. Look it up in your little tiny
abridged dic. Your little dic should be right there under
your sheet, next to the yellow stains.
> Ugh...
>
> Mikey
>
http://www.liberty.edu/academics/arts-sciences/finearts/marchingband/...
Jerry loved the trumpets and marching band. He did a lot for them and
once even took a lot of unfair criticism in Christianity Today for the
large amount of $$$ that he spent on musical instruments(tubas, etc).
Here is just one example of how Jerry's influence helped trumpet
players.
Charles Gorby SR. once saw us on tv, and because of Jerry he donated
22 trumpets to Jerry/LU.
How do I know this? Because I was the one who went to Charleston, WV
to go pick those trumpets up.
Now if a student wants to go to LU or LCA but can not afford a
trumpet, there is one there for them to use free of charge.
Mikey
My feelings on Falwell's death can be summed up in 2 words.
Good riddance.
By the way, does anyone know if there is any truth to the rumor that
Falwell collapsed on top of a huge stack of donuts that was on his
office desk?
Just wondering.
Chris
Then let's give credit where credit is due. It was Charles Gorby SR.
that made this possible. While it cost Mr. Gorby big bucks, it didn't
cost Falwell a red cent. Let's learn to put 'generosity' into proper
perspective and what's real.
Pity the poor embalmer who has to empty him out and put him on
display. 8-(
http://hypocrisytoday.com/falwell-2.html has this:
A few days later, he appeared on Geraldo Rivera's cable TV show and
repudiated everything he'd said on "The 700 Club": "This is not what I
believe and I therefore repudiate it and ask God's forgiveness and yours."
His words had come out in a moment of fatigue, he explained: "I'd been up
all night the night before, coming in from Houston."
Then, two weeks after Falwell apologized to God and Geraldo, the Jerry
Falwell Ministries sent out a fundraising letter written by Falwell's son,
the Rev. Jonathan Falwell. The letter charged that "Satan has launched a
hail of fiery darts at dad" and that "liberals, and especially gay
activists, have launched a vicious smear campaign to discredit him."
The younger Falwell suggested that supporters could assuage the elder
Falwell's "personal hurt" by sending "a special Vote of Confidence gift for
Jerry Falwell of at least $50 or even $100."
It was all a tad confusing. Was Falwell blaming the terrorist attacks on
liberals and gays or wasn't he? Was he apologizing or wasn't he? And what,
exactly, were those fiery darts that Satan had launched against him?
They have no shame, always begging to line their pockets. Hey, that sounds
like someone I know..........
"
Statement on the Death of Rev. Jerry Falwell
This page would like to extend its deepest sympathies to the family,
friends, associates and supporters of the Reverend Jerry Falwell.
Although we have clearly been on opposite sides of the issues, there
is no satisfaction in hearing of his passing. It was his homophobic
bigotry and intolerance that we wanted to die, not him personally. We
believe that people must all come together during times of sadness
such as this, especially for the sake of those who must be feeling the
gravity and grief of such an unexpected loss."
- Christopher Lamparello
Mikey
http://www.liberty.edu/academics/arts-sciences/finearts/marchingband/index.cfm?PID=12927
After watching this video, there can be no doubt about the tremendous
contribution that Dr. Jerry Falwell has made to music/trumpets.
The ungodly act of homosexuality is an abomination that God hates, and
the Bible clearly teaches this truth. Just because I believe that
homosexuality is a choice and that it is a sin, that does not make me
a bigot. Just because I am against the homosexual lifestyle, and that
I think that the homosexual agenda is harmful to America, that does
not make me a bigot either. The Bible clearly teaches in Romans
1:24-27 that the act of homosexuality is wrong. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
clearly teaches that a practicing homosexual is not saved, and will
not inherit the Kingdom of God.
I am against hate against homosexuals, so was Jerry. Those who think
that Jerry hated homosexuals are ignorant, and they know nothing about
the summit that Jerry held on homosexuality, where Jerry spoke out in
public against homosexual hate crimes, and violence against practicing
homosexuals, etc.
DR. Michael Schmidt
Mikkkey the self-loathing homosexual homophobe
believes that homosexuals should be killed for
being homosexual.
Actually, I don't think Jeff wrote that.
Just another one of Mikkkey's lies, in a
long line of Mikkkey's lies. Bearing false
witness is one of Mikkkey's favorite tactics.
Or, in his case, being a false witless.
Mikkkey believes in killing homosexuals.
On 5/19/07 21:29, in article
1179624560.3...@k79g2000hse.googlegroups.com,
"drmichae...@yahoo.com" <drmichae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
You serve the father of all lies, you fraudulent asshole. Your ridiculous
attacks on me based on your stupid fantasies show you to be the liar
everyone already knows you are.
You have consistently accused me of being gay as an attempted to "smear" me.
And then you bring this bullshit.
You are a bigot, a liar, a fraud, a coward, a shitty trumpet player, and
most likely a closeted gay who is feeling guilt about it.
Rot in hell, "dr."
>
> - Show quoted text -
Which frees up enough food to feed 20 third-world families.
Did Jerry eat too much, Yes he did, and the fact that being overweight
causes heart disease is scary.
Guys who worked at the Hardee's outside of the entrance to LU allege
that Jerry would often come by around lunch thru the drive thru and
order six regular hamburgers just for himself.
That is just too much.
What can we learn from this?
Self sermon (also to those as large as me or larger)
loose weight or die early of coronary heart disease
> You have consistently accused me of being gay as an attempted to "smear" me.
> And then you bring this bullshit.
Shawn Hines, no means no, you know what you said to me in that awful
private email.
Stop stalking me. Stop harassing me, stop misquoting me, you need
help, i suggest that you get the help that you need for your
acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle and of the pro abort view, I
will never say yes to your unbiblical request. Stop means STOP.
Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
idiot.
>
> Rot in hell, "dr."-
Re:
"dr"Esq" shawn hines, I am going where Jerry Falwell went, to heaven,
not based upon my good works, but because I was saved by grace thru
faith in Jesus. ALL of my sins were forgiven on the cross. Jesus can
forgive you to for all of your sins if you repent and confess you
sinful pro abort pro homo ways, Jesus can forgive you for what you
said in that awful abominable email.
www.eph289.com
you have no proof of fraud, the fact that you do not approve of my
biblical stance is only proof that I am doing what is right.
"Esq" " dr" I thought you were going to post the phone message. How
bout it.
I guess like with the Butterfly Kisses you tube of me , you won't post
it because you know that people will love my lead trumpet sound.
You are the coward, post it.
Mikkkey BABY nobody believes that crap about Shawn's
non-existent email. You have been proven a liar, over
and over again, and every time you repeat this accusation,
without any proof, you confirm that you are a lying sack
of schmidt.
> Stop stalking me. Stop harassing me, stop misquoting me, you need
> help, i suggest that you get the help that you need for your
> acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle and of the pro abort view, I
> will never say yes to your unbiblical request. Stop means STOP.
> Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
> will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
> idiot.
You're the stalker, Mikkkey BABY. You admitted that
you phoned him in the middle of the night, and that
you harassed his employer. You're a confessed felon.
> "Esq" " dr" I thought you were going to post the phone message. How
> bout it.
Mikkkey I thought you were going to post the imaginary
email that you keep lying about. How "bout" it. [sic]
> I guess like with the Butterfly Kisses you tube of me , you won't post
> it because you know that people will love my lead trumpet sound.
How about all those posts where you admitted that you
are a gay man! Under the sokkkpuppet name
iamagaymanandag...@yahoo.com
> You are the coward, post it.
That's a pretty cowardly thing for a coward to say.
You're afraid to back up your challenge to a playing
contest, because you know you'd lose, and because other
than being a lying sack of Schmidt, you have no sack.
And you can't post the imaginary email that you keep
lying about because it doesn't exist. You're nothing
but a lying coward.
On 5/27/07 21:09, in article
1180314570.1...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,
"drmichae...@yahoo.com" <drmichae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 20, 2:03 am, Shawn Hines <shawnhi...@myexcel.com> wrote:
>
>> You have consistently accused me of being gay as an attempted to "smear" me.
>> And then you bring this bullshit.
>
> Shawn Hines, no means no, you know what you said to me in that awful
> private email.
"dr," You should give this one up. No one believes you, and no one ever
will until you come up with some proof. And of course, you and I both know
that you have none because there were no such emails.
On the other hand, you prove your total failure as a person, and your fraud
as a "minister" and a "doctor" everytime you post this lie.
> Stop stalking me. Stop harassing me, stop misquoting me, you need
> help, i suggest that you get the help that you need for your
> acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle and of the pro abort view, I
> will never say yes to your unbiblical request.
What request was that, "dr?" I dare you to post it. Got that, liar? Prove
your claim. Jesus would want you to be honest at least once in your
miserable failure of a life.
>Stop means STOP.
> Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
> will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
> idiot.
The only one who has ever even brought up anything to do with being gay is
you, "dr."
I think you should get some counseling. You have serious issues.
>>
>> Rot in hell, "dr."-
> Re:
>
> "dr"Esq" shawn hines, I am going where Jerry Falwell went, to heaven,
> not based upon my good works, but because I was saved by grace thru
> faith in Jesus. ALL of my sins were forgiven on the cross.
Jeez, what a nutbag you are, "dr." And it is indicative of your
narcissistic disorder that you actually believe that being "saved" means
that you can continue to be a lying sack of bigoted shit and still go to
heaven as if you had actually done something with your life other than be a
lying bigot.
> Jesus can forgive you to for all of your sins if you repent and confess you
> sinful pro abort pro homo ways, Jesus can forgive you for what you
> said in that awful abominable email.
Amazing that you are so "christian" that you are willing to blaspheme so
unashamedly. I am truly amazed - even given your ridiculous history of
being a fraud - that you are willing to use scripture even as you continue
with your libelous lying bullshit.
All more reason to recognize that you are a total fraud as a "minister."
> www.eph289.com
> you have no proof of fraud, the fact that you do not approve of my
> biblical stance is only proof that I am doing what is right.
"biblical stance?" Its a "biblical stance" to lie about alleged emails and
falsely accuse me of sending them to you in order to damage my reputation?
You are truly one sick fool.
> "Esq" " dr" I thought you were going to post the phone message. How
> bout it.
> I guess like with the Butterfly Kisses you tube of me , you won't post
> it because you know that people will love my lead trumpet sound.
Delusional. The only "people" that had anything good to say about your
youtube videos were you and your sock puppets. Yet you lie and say you took
them down because they were "too popular."
Too funny. You are less than a caricature of your sorry bigoted self.
> You are the coward, post it.
Tell you what, liar. Post the emails you claim I sent to you. For once in
your miserable failure of a life, put up or shut up.
>
>
>
>
Jesus would want you to be honest at least once in your
> miserable failure of a life.
Jesus, who you do not follow, would want you to turn from your wicked
lifestyle.
>
> >Stop means STOP.
> > Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
> > will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
> > idiot.
>
> The only one who has ever even brought up anything to do with being gay is
> you, "dr."
You know what you said in those emails, stop sending them to me,
follow the bible , repent of your lifestyle. No means no. Stop means
stop. Go find someone else sicko.
>
> I think you should get some counseling. You have serious issues.
you think everyone who does not agree with you needs counseling shawn
hines.
>
>
>
> >> Rot in hell, "dr."-
> > Re:
>
> > "dr"Esq" shawn hines, I am going where Jerry Falwell went, to heaven,
> > not based upon my good works, but because I was saved by grace thru
> > faith in Jesus. ALL of my sins were forgiven on the cross.
>
> Jeez, what a nutbag you are, "dr."
tell that to all of the babies that you want aborted every day. The
fact that you object to righteousness just lets me know that I am
doing my job well.
And it is indicative of your
> narcissistic disorder that you actually believe that being "saved" means
> that you can continue to be a lying sack of bigoted shit and still go to
> heaven as if you had actually done something with your life other than be a
> lying bigot.
I will go to heaven, unless you repent of your lifestyle, 1
Corinthians says that you will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
I will put my trust in Jesus, and what he did for me on the cross, not
my ability to live sinless.
See eph289.com
repent or burn in hell hines.
>
> > Jesus can forgive you to for all of your sins if you repent and confess you
> > sinful pro abort pro homo ways, Jesus can forgive you for what you
> > said in that awful abominable email.
>
> Amazing that you are so "christian" that you are willing to blaspheme so
> unashamedly.
I just follow the bible, unlike you, jesus said whoever harms the
little children/fetuses will burn in hell.
I am truly amazed - even given your ridiculous history of
> being a fraud
you can not prove that i ever even misapropriated even a penny of
funds you liar.
- that you are willing to use scripture even as you continue
> with your libelous lying bullshit.
MARK 9 SAYS THAT YOU WILL BURN IN HELL, AND WHO SAID THAT, IT WAS
jESUS, AND HE SAID IT THREE TIMES IN A ROW.All pro aborts who do not
repent will burn in hell forever, and also all sodomites.
>
> All more reason to recognize that you are a total fraud as a "minister."
Where is your proof of fraud, you have none, where is your proof that
I was not properly ordained , where is your proof that i do not hold
an M.Div, you have none, shawn hines boston trumpet player, you are a
total liar and a disgrace to the military.
>
> >www.eph289.com
> > you have no proof of fraud, the fact that you do not approve of my
> > biblical stance is only proof that I am doing what is right.
>
> "biblical stance?" Its a "biblical stance" to lie about alleged emails and
> falsely accuse me of sending them to you in order to damage my reputation?
shawn hines, trumpet player from boston mass is an internet stalker
who refuses to stop harassing me , shawn hines is a total disgrace and
a trumpet player who at best is average.
>
> You are truly one sick fool.
>
> > "Esq" " dr" I thought you were going to post the phone message. How
> > bout it.
> > I guess like with the Butterfly Kisses you tube of me , you won't post
> > it because you know that people will love my lead trumpet sound.
>
> Delusional.
Butterfly kisses was taken down because people liked it just like you
wont post the answering machine message because you know people will
like it, people like my music, that is why i sell much more cd's than
you do.
The only "people" that had anything good to say about your
> youtube videos were you and your sock puppets.
many people loved them , they were well liked, putting up my video
backfired, because people loved butterfly kisses, so it was taken
down, post the answering machine trumpet playing, you wont post it
because it is good, i am the ultimite lead trumpet player, and you at
best are average
Yet you lie and say you took
> them down because they were "too popular."
look how many people loved them, and kept going to the butterfly
kisses one
>
> Too funny. You are less than a caricature of your sorry bigoted self.
>
> > You are the coward, post it.
>
> Tell you what, liar. Post the emails you claim I sent to you. For once in
> your miserable failure of a life, put up or shut up.
i would never post that filth
>
>
>
> - Hide quoted text -
>
LIAR!
> How could you?
He didn't, liar.
> WHY do you stalk people like this?
YOU'RE the stalker, according to your own admissions, liar.
> No means no. You refuse to stop harassing me, and why?
You're the one that keeps up the harassment, liar.
> We both know why you stalk me shawn hines, you
> know what you said.
Post it here. Oh, that's right, you can't post it,
because you made it up. And you know how many people
believe you. Zero. But keep lying if you like. You're
not fooling anybody at all.
> I follow the BIBLE.
You misquote the few Biblical passages that you like
to follow, and you refuse to acknowledge the verses
that say that that things you do are evil sins. You
bear false witness, for one thing.
> get a life you creap.
Get a spel cheker you iggnorint terd!
> I do not post private emails, and i would NEVER post
> the awful things that you said.
You publicly called him a fudge packing queer and
a rectum loving fag, so you have nothing against
posting awful things. Admit what everyone knows
already ... that the fake email that you're lying
about does not exist.
> do what frank hoffecker asked you to do,
How is Reach-Around Frankie and the rest of the
sokkk drawer?
>> - Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
What is it with the "quoted text"? Are you just
too fucking stupid? You're lies fool nobody. They
just make people hate you more, for being the liar
that you are.
On 5/28/07 09:21, in article
1180358495.1...@m36g2000hse.googlegroups.com,
"drmichae...@yahoo.com" <drmichae...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 27, 10:21 pm, Shawn Hines <shawnhi...@myexcel.com> wrote:
>> On 5/27/07 21:09, in article
>> 1180314570.188668.168...@u30g2000hsc.googlegroups.com,
>>
>> "drmichaeleschm...@yahoo.com" <drmichaeleschm...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On May 20, 2:03 am, Shawn Hines <shawnhi...@myexcel.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> You have consistently accused me of being gay as an attempted to "smear"
>>>> me.
>>>> And then you bring this bullshit.
>>
>>> Shawn Hines, no means no, you know what you said to me in that awful
>>> private email.
>>
>> "dr," You should give this one up. No one believes you, and no one ever
>> will until you come up with some proof. And of course, you and I both know
>> that you have none because there were no such emails.
> I would NEVEr ever post the things thta you said. How could you? WHY
> do you stalk people like this? No means no. You refuse to stop
> harassing me, and why?We both know why you stalk me shawn hines, you
> know what you said. STOP means STOP. Shawn you really need to get some
> help. No means No. Shawn go persue some other person. I follow the
> BIBLE. I am happily married to a wonderful wife. I will NEVER do the
> things that you asked me to do in that awful email. No means NO!
Proof (and quite handily convenient proof, at that) that "Reverend" "Dr"
Michael E. Schmidt of "Trumpet of the Lord" "Ministries" is a phony follows.
For the "dr" I will explain. It is clear, "dr" that you don't even believe
in "the Lord." Thus it is clear that you are a phony and a total fraud.
The proof? If you actually believed in Jesus and His teachings, you would
not dare blaspheme and insult the scriptures by using them to justify what
you know to be a total lie told by you and intended to damage my reputation.
Fortunately, the Tennessee Division of Charitable Donations and the IRS are
aware of (and becoming more so) your actions on the internet. The only
thing keeping this matter out of civil court is time (along with the fact
that you and your fraudulent "ministry" are such a miserable failure that
you have nothing).
You are subject to criminal statutes, though. Too bad for you, you lying
bigoted fraudulent fool.
>>
>> On the other hand, you prove your total failure as a person
> untrue
>> , and your fraud as a "minister"
> untrue
>> and a "doctor"
> untrue
>> everytime you post this lie.
>>
>>> Stop stalking me. Stop harassing me, stop misquoting me, you need
>>> help, i suggest that you get the help that you need for your
>>> acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle and of the pro abort view, I
>>> will never say yes to your unbiblical request.
>>
>> What request was that, "dr?"
> STOP presuing me you sicko wierdo, get the help that you need. I said
> NO to you. No means no, shawn hines get a life you creap.
You didn't answer the question, liar. What request did I allegedly make to
you?
>> I dare you to post it.
> I do not post private emails, and i would NEVER post the awful things
> that you said. no means no, you are an idiot, go away.
So in other words, you are simply making a claim intended to damage my
reputation with nothing to back it up - even after being told to post it,
and given permission to post any email you have from me.
Post the emails, you lying fraudulent, bigoted, cowardly, horse's ass. You
have my permission to post any email I have ever sent to you, but you must
post with headers.
I dare you. Do you have the balls to open yourself even further to criminal
charges by fabricating such an email?
>> Got that, liar?
> pot, kettle, black
>> Prove your claim.
> I would never post that anti biblical language in public, do what
> frank hoffecker asked you to do, stop stalking me, stop sending me
> emails, get help, turn from your wicked lifestyle.
Wwow, Mikey. The way you keep on lying about me on the internet, it seems
you really need a different lawyer. Your "bulldawgs" are apparently not
giving you enough information to keep your lying, bigoted, fraudulent ass
out of trouble.
Every lie you tell on the internet about me is permanent and public record.
You have told these lies with the obvious intent to damage my reputation -
since yours is trash.
Better get your "bulldawgs" together, "dr." You and your "ministry" are
finished.
>> Jesus would want you to be honest at least once in your
>> miserable failure of a life.
> Jesus, who you do not follow, would want you to turn from your wicked
> lifestyle.
Blasphemy. From an alleged "christian" and a "reverend" no less.
>>> Stop means STOP.
>>> Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
>>> will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
>>> idiot.
>>
>> The only one who has ever even brought up anything to do with being gay is
>> you, "dr."
> You know what you said in those emails, stop sending them to me,
> follow the bible , repent of your lifestyle. No means no. Stop means
> stop. Go find someone else sicko.
Post the email, liar. With headers.
>> I think you should get some counseling. You have serious issues.
> you think everyone who does not agree with you needs counseling shawn
> hines.
No, I think you need counseling. Not because we disagree, but because you
are clearly mentally ill.
I think you need legal counseling as well as mental health counseling.
I suggest you seek the former right away.
>>
>>
>>>> Rot in hell, "dr."-
>>> Re:
>>
>>> "dr"Esq" shawn hines, I am going where Jerry Falwell went, to heaven,
>>> not based upon my good works, but because I was saved by grace thru
>>> faith in Jesus. ALL of my sins were forgiven on the cross.
>>
>> Jeez, what a nutbag you are, "dr."
> tell that to all of the babies that you want aborted every day. The
> fact that you object to righteousness just lets me know that I am
> doing my job well.
"Righteousness" is you lying about "emails" and blaspheming in order to
continue your libelous attack?
Further proof that you are a fraud as a minister - you don't even believe in
the bible. Isn't "Thou shall not bear false witness" one of the original
ten commandments?
Oh wait. You're SAVED and so the words of the bible don't apply to you.
Jesus will make sure your lying bigoted hateful fraudulent ass goes to
heaven, right?
>> And it is indicative of your narcissistic disorder that you actually believe
>> that being "saved" means that you can continue to be a lying sack of bigoted
>> shit and still go to heaven as if you had actually done something with your
>> life other than be a lying bigot.
> I will go to heaven, unless you repent of your lifestyle, 1
> Corinthians says that you will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
> I will put my trust in Jesus, and what he did for me on the cross, not
> my ability to live sinless.
> See eph289.com
> repent or burn in hell hines.
Unfortunately, the solution you are promoting is not very attractive - since
apparently, it didn't work on you.
Getting "saved" seems to have done nothing for your miserable lack of
character, bigotry, dishonesty, jealousy, cowardice, maliciousness, and
stupidity.
Maybe you should just admit that you are really playing for "the other
team."
>>> Jesus can forgive you to for all of your sins if you repent and confess you
>>> sinful pro abort pro homo ways, Jesus can forgive you for what you
>>> said in that awful abominable email.
>>
>> Amazing that you are so "christian" that you are willing to blaspheme so
>> unashamedly.
> I just follow the bible, unlike you, jesus said whoever harms the
> little children/fetuses will burn in hell.
Hey, "dr" ... What do these scriptures all have in common?
Exodus 20;16
Deuteronomy 5;20
Matthew 19;18
Mark 10;19
Luke 18;20
Romans 13;9
HINT: They all show you, "dr," to be a phony in the truest sense of the
word.
>> I am truly amazed - even given your ridiculous history of being a fraud
> you can not prove that i ever even misapropriated even a penny of
> funds you liar.
Every penny you have received as a "minister" is obtained fraudulently.
This is something I am looking forward to proving in court. :-)
>> - that you are willing to use scripture even as you continue
>> with your libelous lying bullshit.
> MARK 9 SAYS THAT YOU WILL BURN IN HELL, AND WHO SAID THAT, IT WAS
> jESUS, AND HE SAID IT THREE TIMES IN A ROW.All pro aborts who do not
> repent will burn in hell forever, and also all sodomites.
According to your insane ramblings, "jESUS" is God. As such, according to
your "logic" "jESUS" said, "Thou shall not bear false witness."
What kind of "minister" can't even get past the first Ten Commandments
without damning himself to hell?
>> All more reason to recognize that you are a total fraud as a "minister."
> Where is your proof of fraud, you have none, where is your proof that
> I was not properly ordained , where is your proof that i do not hold
> an M.Div, you have none, shawn hines boston trumpet player, you are a
> total liar and a disgrace to the military.
You have been lying about me for months now, "dr" on the phone, on the
internet. You are a fraud. And you play trumpet like a "special needs"
third grader (no insult intended to actual special needs third grade trumpet
players - at least they all have potential. The "dr" does not).
>>> www.eph289.com
>>> you have no proof of fraud, the fact that you do not approve of my
>>> biblical stance is only proof that I am doing what is right.
>>
>> "biblical stance?" Its a "biblical stance" to lie about alleged emails and
>> falsely accuse me of sending them to you in order to damage my reputation?
> shawn hines, trumpet player from boston mass is an internet stalker
> who refuses to stop harassing me , shawn hines is a total disgrace and
> a trumpet player who at best is average.
And the "biblical stance" is ...? You didn't answer the question, "dr"
liar. Is it a "biblical stance" to lie about alleged emails and falsely
accuse me of sending them to you in order to damage my reputation?
It most certain is not a "legal stance," as you shall soon conclusively see.
>>
>> You are truly one sick fool.
>>
>>> "Esq" " dr" I thought you were going to post the phone message. How
>>> bout it.
>>> I guess like with the Butterfly Kisses you tube of me , you won't post
>>> it because you know that people will love my lead trumpet sound.
>>
>> Delusional.
> Butterfly kisses was taken down because people liked it just like you
> wont post the answering machine message because you know people will
> like it, people like my music, that is why i sell much more cd's than
> you do.
By that insanely delusional logic, there would be no popular videos on
YouTUBE. They would all be taken down as soon as people started to watch
them. Seek mental health care help, "dr."
>> The only "people" that had anything good to say about your
>> youtube videos were you and your sock puppets.
> many people loved them , they were well liked, putting up my video
> backfired, because people loved butterfly kisses, so it was taken
> down, post the answering machine trumpet playing, you wont post it
> because it is good, i am the ultimite lead trumpet player, and you at
> best are average
Okay, "dr." Your YouTUBE videos were taken down because 12 people (all of
them you and your sock puppets, BTW) liked it.
Jeez, what a nutbag.
>
>> Yet you lie and say you took them down because they were "too popular."
> look how many people loved them, and kept going to the butterfly
> kisses one
Um we can't. Because they were taken down for being "too popular." I
suppose the "interview with Howdy" one is blocked from comment because so
many people were commenting on how handsome you looked standing there in
your cheap suit, lying and sweating on TV, too.
>
>>
>> Too funny. You are less than a caricature of your sorry bigoted self.
>>
>>> You are the coward, post it.
>>
>> Tell you what, liar. Post the emails you claim I sent to you. For once in
>> your miserable failure of a life, put up or shut up.
>
> i would never post that filth
Sure you would. You are willing to lie. You are willing to blaspheme. You
are willing to use transparent sock puppets to say obscene things often
enough.
If there was such an email, you would post it you fraud.
Since you KNOW that you are lying, and posting such lies on a public forum,
you have opened yourself up even further to legal action.
I'm surprised your "bulldawg" attorney hasn't told you to STFU. I'm also
grateful. You are making this such an easy case to build.
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you are an idiot Shawn Hines and a traitor to the United States of
America. Shawn Hines, the IRS and the TDOCS could care less what you
have to say, not one letter or even a phone call has come here from
either of them concerning your false allegations of fraud, you will
never be able to prove fraud to them BECAUSE YOU ARE IGNORANT Shawn
Hines
The only
> thing keeping this matter out of civil court is time (along with the fact
> that you and your fraudulent "ministry" are such a miserable failure that
> you have nothing).
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You are a traitor to America Shawn Hines, and an idiot
>
> You are subject to criminal statutes, though. Too bad for you, you lying
> bigoted fraudulent fool.
Come send over the fleet of Paddy wagons
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>
>
> >> On the other hand, you prove your total failure as a person
> > untrue
> >> , and your fraud as a "minister"
> > untrue
> >> and a "doctor"
> > untrue
> >> everytime you post this lie.
>
> >>> Stop stalking me. Stop harassing me, stop misquoting me, you need
> >>> help, i suggest that you get the help that you need for your
> >>> acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle and of the pro abort view, I
> >>> will never say yes to your unbiblical request.
>
> >> What request was that, "dr?"
what "dr esq"
> > STOP presuing me you sicko wierdo, get the help that you need. I said
> > NO to you. No means no, shawn hines get a life you creap.
>
> You didn't answer the question, liar. What request did I allegedly make to
> you?
>
> >> I dare you to post it.
> > I do not post private emails, and i would NEVER post the awful things
> > that you said. no means no, you are an idiot, go away.
>
> So in other words, you are simply making a claim intended to damage my
> reputation with nothing to back it up - even after being told to post it,
> and given permission to post any email you have from me.
Shawn hines is a wierdo sicko pro homo internet stalker get help you
traitor
>
> Post the emails, you lying fraudulent, bigoted, cowardly, horse's ass. You
> have my permission to post any email I have ever sent to you, but you must
> post with headers.
>
> I dare you. Do you have the balls to open yourself even further to criminal
> charges by fabricating such an email?
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>
> >> Got that, liar?
> > pot, kettle, black
> >> Prove your claim.
> > I would never post that anti biblical language in public, do what
> > frank hoffecker asked you to do, stop stalking me, stop sending me
> > emails, get help, turn from your wicked lifestyle.
>
> Wwow, Mikey. The way you keep on lying about me on the internet, it seems
> you really need a different lawyer. Your "bulldawgs" are apparently not
> giving you enough information to keep your lying, bigoted, fraudulent ass
> out of trouble.
go for it
On second thought, don't sue me, because then I would be forced to
have to smell you
>
> Every lie you tell on the internet about me is permanent and public record.
> You have told these lies with the obvious intent to damage my reputation -
> since yours is trash.
You Boston trumpet player/attempter Shawn Hines "dr esq" are a traitor
to America
>
> Better get your "bulldawgs" together, "dr." You and your "ministry" are
> finished.
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> >> Jesus would want you to be honest at least once in your
> >> miserable failure of a life.
> > Jesus, who you do not follow, would want you to turn from your wicked
> > lifestyle.
>
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> >>> Stop means STOP.
> >>> Leave me alone, i am not interested in you in that way and i never
> >>> will be, get a clue, get a life, get out of my life please, you are an
> >>> idiot.
>
> >> The only one who has ever even brought up anything to do with being gay is
> >> you, "dr."
sure "dr esq" you know what you said ands what you are "dr esq"
> > You know what you said in those emails, stop sending them to me,
> > follow the bible , repent of your lifestyle. No means no. Stop means
> > stop. Go find someone else sicko.
>
> Post the email, liar. With headers.
I never post unbiblical trash like that
>
> >> I think you should get some counseling. You have serious issues.
> > you think everyone who does not agree with you needs counseling shawn
> > hines.
>
> No, I think you need counseling.
and sharon and who knows who else YOU think needs counseling, not to
shawn, when you think everyone needs counseling but you hines, it is a
hint that you are the one who needs counseling
Not because we disagree, but because you
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> I think you need legal counseling as well as mental health counseling.hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> >>>> Rot in hell, "dr."-
> >>> Re:
>
> >>> "dr"Esq" shawn hines, I am going where Jerry Falwell went, to heaven,
> >>> not based upon my good works, but because I was saved by grace thru
> >>> faith in Jesus. ALL of my sins were forgiven on the cross.
>
> >> Jeez, what a nutbag you are, "dr."hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> > tell that to all of the babies that you want aborted every day. The
> > fact that you object to righteousness just lets me know that I am
> > doing my job well.
>
> "Righteousness" is you lying about "emails" and blaspheming in order to
> continue your libelous attack?hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> Further proof that you are a fraud as a minister -hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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you don't even believe in
> the bible. Isn't "Thou shall not bear false witness" one of the original
> ten commandments?hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> Oh wait. You're SAVED and so the words of the bible don't apply to you.
> Jesus will make sure your lying bigoted hateful fraudulent ass goes to
> heaven, right?hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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>
> >> And it is indicative of your narcissistic disorder hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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that you actually believe
> >> that being "saved" means that you can continue to be a lying sack of hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> >> shit and still go to heaven as if you had actually done something with your
> >> life other than be a lying bigot.hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> > I will go to heaven, unless you repent of your lifestyle, 1
> > Corinthians says that you will not inherit the Kingdom of God.
> > I will put my trust in Jesus, and what he did for me on the cross, not
> > my ability to live sinless.
> > See eph289.com
> > repent or burn in hell hines.
>
> Unfortunately, the solution you are promoting is not very attractive - since
> apparently, it didn't work on you.hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> Getting "saved" seems to have done nothing for your miserable lack of
> character, bigotry, dishonesty, jealousy, cowardice, maliciousness, and
> stupidity.
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> Maybe you should just admit that you are really playing for "the other
> team."
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> >>> Jesus can forgive you to for all of your sins if you repent and confess you
> >>> sinful pro abort pro homo ways, Jesus can forgive you for what you
> >>> said in that awful abominable email.
>
> >> Amazing that you are so "christian" that you are willing to blaspheme so
> >> unashamedly.hahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahahhahahhahahahahhaha
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> > I just follow the bible, unlike you, jesus said whoever harms the
> > little children/fetuses will burn in hell.
>
> Hey, "dr" ... What do these scriptures all have in common?
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Everyone knows that you're a liar. Nobody in the world
believes you. Not even your wife. You're a liar, and
your libellous lies are permanently and publicly
archived. Your only possible defense would be to prove
that Shawn sent you the fake emails that you are lying
about, but you can't do that, because they do not exist,
and you're too stupid to fake them. Busted, Mikkkey.
You're busted. Your usual response, chickening out,
won't save you know, chickenschmidt.
Yeah, it looks like Mikkkey may be doing a gen-yoo-wine
Foamdown, by way of campaigning for KKKoward of the Month.
I wonder if there are any actual military veterans within
a short drive of his tar-paper shack in Bugtussle. He might
deserve a visit. If he's not in the house, he's probably
hiding in the pit under the one-holer "Legal Privy" in the
backyard.
>
> > sure "dr esq" you know what you said ands what you are "dr esq"> > You know what you said in those emails, stop sending them to me,
> > > > follow the bible , repent of your lifestyle. No means no. Stop means
> > > > stop. Go find someone else sicko.
>
> > > Post the email, liar. With headers.
>
> > I never post unbiblical trash like that
>
> > > >> I think you should get some counseling. You have serious
>
> ...
>
> read more ยป
Hey Mikey, you left out the line that reads:
Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All right reserved. This material may
not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
And there you go redistributing it.
Tsk, tsk, tsk...
"9Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not
inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived
(misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor
adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality...
10... will inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God."
Falwell outs idiot media
By Steven Martinovich
web posted March 1999
Doubtless you've heard about the brouhaha over Rev. Jerry Falwell's
recent remarks about creepy Teletubbies character Tinky Winky. The
good reverend reportedly announced last month in the pages of his
National Liberty Journal that Tinky Winky was a gay role model because
his "voice was obviously that of a boy" and was "carrying a red
purse."
"Now, further evidence that the creators of the series intend for
Tinky Winky to be a gay role model have surfaced. He is purple -- the
gay-pride color; and his antenna is shaped like a triangle -- the gay-
pride symbol," the item continued.
I came across a report on that NLJ tdibit and the accompanying
reaction to it as I was scanning the wires for entertainment stories
for the newspaper I work for and laughed at Falwell's gaffe. Do what
you will, but I believe as soon as a cultural conservative attacks a
television program they are simply courting trouble.
The story refused to die because Falwell kept getting whacked over the
absurdity of ascribing a sexual orientation on a character from a
children's television program, and during that whole time something
kept bothering me. Then it hit me.
I had seen Tinky Winky outed before and on no less than CNN
Interactive. In early January, while I was on Christmas vacation, I
saw a report on the web site on one of those dreary and inevitable
year-end "In/Out" lists. After going back and digging the story up, I
found that the august Washington Post had declared lesbian comedian
Ellen Degeneres "out" and "Tinky Winky, the gay teletubby" as "in."
A little more research -- something that Associated Press reporter
David Reed apparently forgot how to do -- turned up within minutes the
piece wasn't even written by Falwell, a fact that he later confirmed
through a press release.
"Dr. Falwell has never seen the teletubbies' TV program. Dr. Falwell
has never commented in any way on the teletubbies. He did not 'out'
Tinky Winky," stated the release.
"NLJ Senior Editor J.M. Smith wrote a 'parents' alert' in the NLJ
February issue. Editor Smith wrote an excellent warning to parents
about monitoring what their children watch on TV. He did not attack
the teletubbies or call for a boycott of the teletubbies. He simply
documented information that had already been reported in Time, People,
the Washington Post, CNN, E-Online and other national media over the
past year."
So why did NLJ's 'revelation' on Tinky Winky's supposed sexuality got
heavy press while The Washington Post got a pass? Steven Rice, a
spokesman for Itsy Bitsy Entertainment Co., which licenses the show in
the United States, may have hit on the reason without even knowing it.
Responding to the NLJ piece, Rice opined that Falwell's apparent
attack was nothing more than an attempt to further his own
conservative agenda. A protein rich target that the media could hardly
ignore.
And it makes sense right? Falwell had recently put his foot squarely
in his mouth with the announcement that the Antichrist was likely
already treading the Earth (my guess is somewhere in New Jersey) and
was a Jewish male. After that public relations fiasco, who wouldn't
believe that Falwell was attacking a children's television character
over perceived homosexuality?
Personally, I found the story behind the story more interesting and
it's summed up in two words: media credibility.
The media's coverage of the teletubbies turmoil in a teacup
illustrated exactly why the public is so distrustful of the so-called
gatekeepers of freedom. According to a three-year study by the
American Society of Newspaper Editors, the decline in public trust
over the past few years is marked, and for several good reasons.
The ASNE's Journalism Credibility Project found that, among other
reasons, the public saw too many factual errors in stories and were
suspicious of bias in media stories -- liberal bias to be specific.
A vast majority of the 3 000 polled in 1998, some 68 per cent, believe
that newspapers run stories without checking them "just because other
papers have published them" while 73 per cent of respondents were
skeptical of news accuracy.
When it came to bias, 78 per cent said that it did exist, while 50 per
cent agreed that some groups get a break when it comes to media
coverage. Proving its validity, the study found that the 17 per cent
who thought there was no bias in the media tended to be, and hold on
for this: poor, ignorant, idle Democrats. Surprise, surprise!
"There were also odd, singular answers given to this open-ended survey
question as well -- such as respondents who suggested that 'egg-
sucking-dog liberals' and 'devotees of what's politically-correct' are
beneficiaries of overly-favourable coverage...get advantageous
coverage. While some journalists might find these sentiments amusing,
there's a powerful colloquial voice in these kinds of phrases -- one
that's particularly important given the high percentage of respondents
that could volunteer an answer to this kind of question," said ANSE in
their December 1998 report.
That bias, said the society, comes because the public believes that
there is a lack of impartiality in reporting and an intent to
persuade.
When these two beliefs are taken into account, how can ANSE find it
hard to believe the public is exasperated of a media which has tried
to sell us nerve gas use in Vietnam, stories questioning Chiquita
Brands International's business practices written with stolen voice
mail, the Boston Globe's Mike Barnacle and Patricia Smith for lying in
their stories, the firing of New Republic associated editor Stephen
Glass after his editors discovered that he had lied about material in
his stories, and the countless examples of poor reporting during the
Clinton-Lewinsky scandal?
As St. Petersburg Times columnist Philip Gailey wrote recently, if the
news were a consumer product, the public would have demanded a recall
because of shoddy service.
"[W]hen we fabricate quotes and names, when we traffic in rumors and
unsubstantiated charges, we risk losing the credibility that is an
essential bond with our readers and viewers. We can live with our
honest mistakes, but we can't fulfill our role as a vital check on
abuses of government and other institutions if we compromise our
credibility with irresponsible and dishonest journalism."
What Gailey means is that the public is tired of catching the media in
lies, lies and more lies. The public is tired of playing the role of
the student to the media's teacher. The public has had enough of
shoddily researched stories. His fear of compromised credibility comes
too late. If the media cannot be relied upon to get the minor facts
correct in a story -- like the Falwell episode -- how can they expect
any greater trust when it comes to the important issues of the day?
"
Richard is not a very good person, he was not a good section leader,
and he was never a very good musician.He is a creap. Richard was an
outcast, and he did not have many friends in the corps. All of his
UCLA this and UCLA all of the time, that was a complete turnoff. He
looks like bozo the clown.
Richard often blasted a splat splat sousaphone style sound out of his
contra, 10 cents sharp all of the time at least, he never understood
how to properly play an ultratone, he over played the horn so badly at
times it was just awful.
>From today on, I will not recognize the name "Howdy".
thank you for understanding
Yes, you care. You'll be boasting about winning koOk
awards, just as you bagged about the Order of the
Holey Sockpuppett
>>From today on, I will not recognize the name "Howdy".
OK, Howdy Doookkkie. Whatever you say, Lyon-Sack of Schmidt!
> thank you for understanding
Fuck you for being an asshole.
>
>
Project much?
You are a fake sock
* PLONK *
--
James A. Chappell http://rlrr.drum-corps.net/
"Everyone has a purpose in life. Perhaps yours is watching
television."
-- David Letterman
May 31, 2007
Pastors/Friends:
Towns Alumni Ministry Training Center
The present funding is $508,109.
Thomas Road Baptist Church/Liberty University Transition
I am extremely optimistic over the transition of leadership to the two
Falwell sons. Jonathan preached powerful sermons the first two
Sundays after Jerry Falwell passed away. Jerry Falwell, Jr. was in
the office two days after the funeral taking care of the absolutely
necessary things. I love their work ethnic, but more important than
that, I love their commitment to the vision that God originally gave
to Jerry Falwell.
The newspapers quoted what I said in prayer meeting the night after
Jerry died concerning the church and University, "The best days are
yet to come."
It's very easy to look back at the "glory" days of founding Liberty-
and those were glorious days-but we must all live in the future and I
am as excited what God will do through the Falwell sons as I was 37
years ago when I was excited what God would do through Jerry Falwell,
Sr.
Liberty University Commencement
The 2007 Liberty University Commencement was held May 19, 2007 in
Williams Stadium. The Liberty graduation class of 2007 presented me
with a gracious gift of $13,000 for the Towns Alumni Ministry Training
Center during the ceremony. In my appreciation to the class members,
I told them "Your gift shows that you have a great love and
appreciation for Liberty University . The very fact that you gave
towards this classroom building shows that you appreciate the learning
that you received in all of the classrooms at Liberty University from
all your faculty. Thank you for your investment in future
students."
Record Enrollment
This year we have approximately 28,000 students at Liberty
University , i.e., 10,700 on campus and 17,000 in distance learning
programs (all accredited). Recently I was in a board meeting for
Global Pastors Network where the president said to me, " Liberty
University is the largest Christian training institution in the
history of Christianity." I was blown away with that remark. I had
never thought about it before. This fall enrollment will go over
30,000 students. We are adding six dormitories, four stories each,
and we must construct a road on the west side of the campus, i.e.,
approximately one mile long and two traffic tunnels underneath the
railroad tracks to give us a third major exit off the campus (each
tunnel will cost approximately $1 million dollars).
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- Elmer Towns
Hi Howdy, well, there you go! You said that you don't read
what I wrote, but I knew all along that you read it all.
And hear you prove it. And you prove, yet again, that you're
a liar, Howdy baby.
>> >>From today on, I will not recognize the name "Howdy".
Of course you will, Howdy. If it smells like doookkkkie,
and it sounds like dooookkkkie, it's you. Howdy Doookkkie.
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There you go again with the "Hide quoted text" and "Show
quoted text," proving yet again what a fucking moron you
are, Howdy.
mikey