some jazz trumpeter recommendations
EarleSlick
that later) but I wanted to contribute something useful and thought I'd list a
few talents I think many of you would appreciate: If you know more or have an
opinion about any of these guys, I for one would especially appreciate your
comments.
Pharez Whitted: This guy's a monster and it's incredible to me that he's not
better known...I've never noticed him discussed on this NG and it's a shame,
but my pleasure to introduce him. His first recording ("Pharez Whitted") is
more jazz oriented while another called "Mysterious Cargo" touches on a very
sophisticated soulful feel. Do yourself a favor and pick up some of this guy's
work.
Darren Barrett: Simply another monster player. Anyone buying Wynton's work
just to hear him push the envelope, should enjoy DB's work.
Rod McGaha: I really enjoy this guy's style which is heavily rooted in the
blues.
Peter Welker: a wonderful and very gifted player although the one CD I heard
(a tribute CD called "Para Peachy") was recorded under circumstances ( the
death of his 5 yr old child from leukemia) that perhaps contributed to a well
played but more than slightly incoherent collaboration of talent and songs.
None the less, it contains absolutely the most amazing version of "Star Eyes"
(better than Parker's IMHO) and "What's New" I ever heard.
I'm sure I mentioned Russell Gunn in the past, but his style continues to
remind me so much of the approach used by some metal guitarists that I'd like
to mention him again for any one who missed it. This guy has an approach that
is so fresh, unique and raw; I think his musical contribution to jazz is
really noteworthy and important.
I haven't been around the NG for awhile because I had to finally accept the
fact that I had a problem that needed professional attention. I have a couple
of relatively minor health problems that have consistently caused me so much
physical pain that I eventually taught myself that gradually increasing doses
of pain pills/diazipam and alcohol were the only thing that provided genuine,
however temporary relief, and I found myself far more dependent on them than I
needed to be. Old friends have long commented on changes in personality due to
both the pain and drugs, and I should have taken the hint along time ago. Six
weeks ago, while researching deja-news for something, I made the very
disconcerting discovery that it was easy to spot the posts that I wrote while
on pain pills and alcohol. (I was apparently reeling out of control around the
time I followed up Howard P's post regarding the "Ten Worst Flugelhorn Players
Whose Last Name Starts With The letter "K", on the jazz NG with goofy rants
about Nancy Kerrigin and Captain Kangaroo that should have tipped me off a long
time ago that I was unraveling. I decided then that I better stay off the
computor for awhile.) Anyway, things are greatly improved thanks to my gifted
Doctor, and with a clearer head, I'd like to also take a minute to offer my
sincere apologies to anyone I may have offended or angered in any and all past
threads.
One last thing to share with those regulars who were following the NG for the
past year;..I had the opportunity to very recently hear a trumpet player in a
jazz/salsa band at a street fair in Pittsburgh who's playing was remarkable
enough that I made a beeline towards him after one particular set in order to
meet and talk with him.... I'm virtually certain he said his name was Michael
Bookman. Is this world too small or what? :) ///earl slick
all content is my opinion..I could be wrong
JayDubz
>just to hear him push the envelope, should enjoy DB's work.
I'm not sure, but do you perhaps mean DAN Barrett? He plays mainly cornet, and
trombone. He traveled with Rex Allen's Swing Express to my town, and did a
clinic at my high school, and that night helped us in a fund raiser. Great
playing. If this is in fact a different person, check him out anyways.
Jeff Warner
Jay...@aol.com
Dr. Trumpet
It is damn good to see ytou back with us. We have missed your wit and charm!
Best wishes,
AL
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International Competition.He was born in England I believe,When here in
Boston he plays at Wally's Cafe, down the street from Berklee College of
Music. His first cd,'First One Up' is now in the stores.Mr.Barrett's
actual ht. and wt. are unknown by me.(thats a joke,I'm a local novice
giving him his due)
EarleSlick
>Jeff Warner
>Jay...@aol.com
I was definately referring to Darren Barrett and specifically his new recording
called "First One Up". On my copy there's a sticker saying he won the 1997
Thelonious Monk International Jazz Competition.
Another recommendation: Pete Minger....he's been around for awhile as an
alumni of Basie's band and an extraordinary jazz stylist on the Flugelhorn.
Speaking of Flugelhorns, don't forget about Dmitry Matheny. I believe it was
"Downbeat" who mentioned Matheny as a talent worthy of a larger audience, (or
something like that)///earl slick
all content is my opinion...I could be wrong or on painkillers and alcohol
dennis
> I haven't been around the NG for awhile because I had to finally accept the
> Anyway, things are greatly improved thanks to my gifted
> Doctor, and with a clearer head, I'd like to also take a minute to offer my
> sincere apologies to anyone I may have offended or angered in any and all past
> threads.
gee, i always thought you were the voice of reason. maybe i should see my doctor.
i'll tell you one thing, while i am now an active participant in 2 loopy real estate/escrow/
loan transactions, i would be tempted to abuse something or other if i knew how to get it...
(just reading a few paragraphs in these things i'm supposed to sign, causes all free brain cells
to leak out into the ether, somehow)
and the pervasiveness of incompetence i am witnessing, amongst those supposedly helping me,
is breath-taking, in a sick sort of way. if anyone thinks we are on the dawn of a glorious new era,
as we enter the next century, you'd better think again.
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Howard Peirce
> Pharez Whitted: This guy's a monster and it's incredible to me that he's not
> better known...I've never noticed him discussed on this NG and it's a shame,
> but my pleasure to introduce him. His first recording ("Pharez Whitted") is
> more jazz oriented while another called "Mysterious Cargo" touches on a very
> sophisticated soulful feel. Do yourself a favor and pick up some of this guy's
> work.
Pharez is another classmate of mine from my school days. I believe he's based out
of Columbus, OH, these days, but was recording for MoJazz in Detroit at one time.
The last stuff of his I heard was almost like "smooth" jazz, but like you say,
more soulful ("chunky" jazz, perhaps?). Not my cup of tea (reminded me of a Colt
45 radio ad, actually). I know at one point he was following up on that 80s Miles
Davis/Marcus Miller kind of groove. I'd love to hear him again in a more boppish
context.
> (I was apparently reeling out of control around the
> time I followed up Howard P's post regarding the "Ten Worst Flugelhorn Players
> Whose Last Name Starts With The letter "K", on the jazz NG with goofy rants
> about Nancy Kerrigin and Captain Kangaroo that should have tipped me off a long
> time ago that I was unraveling. I decided then that I better stay off the
> computor for awhile.)
Well, now you've got me questioning *my* mental health--I thought that exchange
was brilliant!
Good luck to you--I hope you find your center without losing your edge.
HP
Dr. Trumpet
<howard...@sdrc.com> wrote:
> EarleSlick wrote:
>
> > Pharez Whitted: This guy's a monster and it's incredible to me that
he's not
> > better known...I've never noticed him discussed on this NG and it's a shame,
> > but my pleasure to introduce him. His first recording ("Pharez Whitted") is
> > more jazz oriented while another called "Mysterious Cargo" touches on a very
> > sophisticated soulful feel. Do yourself a favor and pick up some of
this guy's
> > work.
>
> Pharez is another classmate of mine from my school days. I believe he's
based out
> of Columbus, OH, these days, but was recording for MoJazz in Detroit at
one time.
> The last stuff of his I heard was almost like "smooth" jazz, but like you say,
> more soulful ("chunky" jazz, perhaps?). Not my cup of tea (reminded me
of a Colt
> 45 radio ad, actually). I know at one point he was following up on that
80s Miles
> Davis/Marcus Miller kind of groove. I'd love to hear him again in a more
boppish
> context.
Pharez was indeed in Columbus the last time I talked with him. He had
been around the Indy area quite a bit, but I believe is doing some
teaching at Ohio State, and is located in Columbus now. Pharez even ( and
I am not sure he'd want me to tell this) played with the Indianapolis
Brass Choir for a while in the late 1980's. He enjoyed his time there, I
know, because he would sit and rap after the rehearsals with us at the
Ground Round that used to be at 65th and Keystone in Indy. Delbert Dale
invited him to join, and we really loved having him play with the group.
I left for Bloomington in the fall of 1988, so this would've been before
then.
As far as Earl's assessment, I agree whole heartedly. Fine player, great
tone, wonderful ideas. The essential package for a great jazz player.
Dr. Trumpet
earle...@aol.com (EarleSlick) wrote:
> great post Al...He really is a serious talent and I hope people reading this
> keep him in mind and give his recordings a chance, especially the first one
> "Pharez Whitted".///ES
Hey Earl,
I was out in your kneck of the woods in April. Went to SF, Muir Woods,
Monteray Bay Aquarium, Moss BEach Distillery, The Jelly-Belly Factory, and
lots of other cool places. The Redwoods at Muir and the Ave. of the
Giants were better than I had ever imagined........great place in the
world to live!
Hope this finds you well!
EarleSlick
>gee, i always thought you were the voice of reason. maybe i should see >my
doctor.
I hate to be the one to tell you this but....it's really an upside-down-assed
world when _I_ start being viewed as the voice of reason.
>i'll tell you one thing, while i am now an active participant in 2 loopy >real
estate/escrow/
>loan transactions, i would be tempted to abuse something or other if i >knew
how to get it...
>(just reading a few paragraphs in these things i'm supposed to sign, >causes
all free brain cells
>to leak out into the ether, somehow)
>and the pervasiveness of incompetence i am witnessing, amongst those
>supposedly helping me,
>is breath-taking, in a sick sort of way. if anyone thinks we are on the >dawn
of a glorious new era,
>as we enter the next century, you'd better think again.
yikes....sorry to hear about your escrow. If I had to deal with something like
that right now, they'd probably find me sitting naked in some tower with a
high-powered rifle. Most of those things somehow work out in the end, and
yours probably will too. hang in there and good luck///earl slick
EarleSlick
>Pharez is another classmate of mine from my school days. I believe he's >based
out
>of Columbus, OH, these days, but was recording for MoJazz in Detroit at >one
time.
>The last stuff of his I heard was almost like "smooth" jazz, but like you
>say,
>more soulful ("chunky" jazz, perhaps?). Not my cup of tea (reminded me >of a
Colt
>45 radio ad, actually). I know at one point he was following up on that >80s
Miles
>Davis/Marcus Miller kind of groove. I'd love to hear him again in a more
>boppish
>context.
I can appreciate what your talking about....I don't have the 2 Whitted CD's in
front of me, but I can say they're very different from each other, which I
suppose can be viewed as a reflection of his diversity. The first one, "Pharez
Whitted" is really straight forward jazz as I remember it, the second one I
picked up surprised me, but I have to admit that I liked it quite a bit. There
was a sophistication, and coolness about it that "smooth jazz" artists can't
seem to pull off. He's really quite capable and I have to admit that I'm a
real fan of the guy.
>> (I was apparently reeling out of control around the
>> time I followed up Howard P's post regarding the "Ten Worst >>Flugelhorn
Players
>> Whose Last Name Starts With The letter "K", on the jazz NG (snipped)
>Well, now you've got me questioning *my* mental health--I thought that
>exchange
>was brilliant!
It was definately,.... different. Think about this for a minute; what sort of
non-drug induced thought process takes you in one paragraph from bitching about
Nancy Kerrigin to Capt. Kangaroo to that RickyLake show with those two
remarkably attractive blondes with boobs big enough to hide a rotary dial
telephone under, who didn't mind sharing that unbelievably grotesque guy where
you could actually see the dog s##t fumes coming off his head? And to think I
passed out before I had the chance to expand on my personal theory as to why
they should've had a laugh track and _unwilling_ participants on "American
Gladiators"... Turbo, Laser, meet Rosie and Regis.....Seriously, Howard, I
needed help///earlslick
EarleSlick
>Pharez was indeed in Columbus the last time I talked with him. He had
>been around the Indy area quite a bit, but I believe is doing some
teaching at Ohio State, and is located in Columbus now. Pharez even ( and
>I am not sure he'd want me to tell this) played with the Indianapolis
Brass Choir for a while in the late 1980's. He enjoyed his time there, I
>know, because he would sit and rap after the rehearsals with us at the
Ground Round that used to be at 65th and Keystone in Indy. Delbert Dale
>invited him to join, and we really loved having him play with the group.
I left for Bloomington in the fall of 1988, so this would've been before
>then.
>As far as Earl's assessment, I agree whole heartedly. Fine player, great
>tone, wonderful ideas. The essential package for a great jazz player.
great post Al...He really is a serious talent and I hope people reading this
JonatLC
What a coincidence this is. He was an all state at our school and now I will
be too.
Jonathan Webster
EarleSlick
>I was out in your kneck of the woods in April. Went to SF, Muir Woods,
>Monteray Bay Aquarium, Moss BEach Distillery, The Jelly-Belly Factory, >and
>lots of other cool places. The Redwoods at Muir and the Ave. of the
>Giants were better than I had ever imagined........great place in the
>world to live!
>Hope this finds you well!
>AL
Your trip crossed my mind more than a few times. I'm glad you left with a good
impression of the place. I was back east around that time, but I seem to
recall that the weather was particularly nice the week you were here. I was
actually very intrigued by that Monette symposium you were ultimately headed
to, and although I was looking, I didn't notice anything posted here about it.
(although I could have missed it).
Believe it or not, aside from Muir Woods, I've never been to any of those
places, and I've been around here 17 years! In fact, as long as I'm being
honest, I've never even heard of most of them. I should probably try hooking
up with some tourists who might be willing to let me tag along. Though, from
what little I've seen it really is a great place. :) I'm glad you had a good
visit!///ES
Dr. Trumpet
earle...@aol.com (EarleSlick) wrote:
> Your trip crossed my mind more than a few times. I'm glad you left with
a good
> impression of the place. I was back east around that time, but I seem to
> recall that the weather was particularly nice the week you were here. I was
> actually very intrigued by that Monette symposium you were ultimately headed
> to, and although I was looking, I didn't notice anything posted here about it.
> (although I could have missed it).
>
> Believe it or not, aside from Muir Woods, I've never been to any of those
> places, and I've been around here 17 years! In fact, as long as I'm being
> honest, I've never even heard of most of them. I should probably try hooking
> up with some tourists who might be willing to let me tag along. Though, from
> what little I've seen it really is a great place. :) I'm glad you had a good
> visit!///ES
Earl,
In actuallity, the Monette get together write up will be a part of a the
ITG Journal next fall. I am writing an article of the events and hope to
have it done this week.
Great event.
It is a wonderful place, and glad to have you back with us. Another
reader mentioned to me the other day about the fact he hadn't heard from
you lately here.......
Al
David Miller
Great to have you back!!!!
Bookman?? Ah $#!+, there has to be more than just one! :-) There are
two other David Millers that I know of who play trumpet professionally-
and we're........ ALL AWESOME!!!!!! hahahahaha :-) (inside joke, for
those of you who weren't here last year).
Wishing you the best, man,
Dave M
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Dr. Trumpet
earle...@aol.com (EarleSlick) wrote:
> I would have loved hearing the
> Terrence Blanchard part of the program. I think I've said this before,
but his
> style is as perfect a marriage with that horn as I've ever heard.
Terrence is PHENOMENAL! Without a doubt, the best jazz trumpeter I've
heard live. The level of expression, of sensitivity and nuance with him
is unbelievable, and you're absolutely right, the Monette instrument is
the perfect instrument in his hands. Were I to get the chance again,
Terrence is a concert I would not miss. I've been looking for his CD so
that I can let the kids hear him. However, like a lot of true greats, the
CDs are only a fraction of what they do live.
Another great player you should hear is Derrick Gardner. He and I were at
IU together, and he is incredible. Last time I heard him, he was with the
Basie band I think. Anyone know where Derrick is?
BTW, the Moss Beach Distillery was great-great food and a great view. But
the best, the best was Crescent City, a little Mom and Pop place with
homemade fresh clam chowder..........that and the Redwoods.......I could
live there.
AL
EarleSlick
>In actuallity, the Monette get together write up will be a part of a the
>ITG Journal next fall. I am writing an article of the events and hope to
>have it done this week.
>Great event.
It had to be. I would think it would be impossible to walk away from that
without learning something of lasting value. I would have loved hearing the
Terrence Blanchard part of the program. I think I've said this before, but his
style is as perfect a marriage with that horn as I've ever heard.
>It is a wonderful place, and glad to have you back with us. Another
>reader mentioned to me the other day about the fact he hadn't heard >from
>you lately here.......
>Al
I'm flattered that anyone would notice, but I felt I had a tendency to get
carried away sometimes in the past. Pain pills and alcohol didn't work out to
be the substitute I counted on for recommended medical treatment, and I found
myself getting a little too loopy or at least too desensitized before getting
online. I thought it best to take some time away from the computor while I got
a grip, but now I'm worried that the real me is even harder to put up with than
the loaded me.///earl slick
PS. I'm really surprised that no one followed up with comments on my Pete
Minger recommendations. This guy's great, and I know he's been around for
awhile. ..... Maybe it was just a little too buried. Anyone into flugels need
to check this guy out.
EarleSlick
>Terrence is PHENOMENAL! Without a doubt, the best jazz trumpeter I've
>heard live. The level of expression, of sensitivity and nuance with him
>is unbelievable, and you're absolutely right, the Monette instrument is
>the perfect instrument in his hands. Were I to get the chance again,
>Terrence is a concert I would not miss. I've been looking for his CD so
>that I can let the kids hear him. However, like a lot of true greats, the
>CDs are only a fraction of what they do live.
I absolutely agree. I thought he was phenomenal way back with the Jazz
Messengers. Speaking of expression, sensitivity and nuance, you should look
into "The Heart Speaks". I've seen this CD for as low as $3.95 in used shops,
and I just keep buying it and giving it to friends. It's co-written and
recorded with Brazilian keyboardist Ivan Lins. Brazilian flavor isn't really
my thing, but it's just so beautifully executed that it's become my pleasure to
turn people on to it. My personal favorite though is "Simply Stated". You
might also appreciate his recording of Billie Holiday songs, although the exact
title escapes me at the moment. "Romantic Defiance" is also well worth the
money.
>Another great player you should hear is Derrick Gardner. He and I were >at
>IU together, and he is incredible. Last time I heard him, he was with the
>Basie band I think.
I'm certain I have something which he played on, but I'll look for his solo
work this week and let you know what I found.///earl slick
EarleSlick
>Dave M
thanks buddy...yeah, when he said his name was Mike Bookman, I think my skin
turned the color of Elmers glue. I really don't think it was the same
M.Bookman though. This guy seemed about 28-30 years old, although I'm lousy at
guessing ages, so you never know. His band did a cover of a song from Dizzy's
"Live on the Riviera" that was actually pretty impressive. I have to hand it
to this Bookman, which ever one he was; not exactly "awesome", but...not bad at
all.... ///earl slick
all content is my opinion....I could be wrong
IM JAZD 1
>M.Bookman though. This guy seemed about 28-30 years old, although I'm lousy
>at
>guessing ages, so you never know.
It wasn't...the Bookman that turns your skin the color of Elmers glue is only
18ish...freshman.
DHoff56012
>his
>style is as perfect a marriage with that horn as I've ever heard.
>
Terrance would sound better on a nice Bach, just like Wynton does...
Jeesh, here i go again... LOL
sorry...
David
DHoff56012
>Minger recommendations. This guy's great, and I know he's been around for
>awhile. ..... Maybe it was just a little too buried. Anyone into flugels
>need
>to check this guy out.
I missed the post on Pete Minger. I agree, he is a wonderful musician. Does
he have some new stuff out?
David Hoffman
Tootman
Dr. Trumpet
dhoff...@aol.com (DHoff56012) wrote:
>
> Terrance would sound better on a nice Bach, just like Wynton does...
>
> Jeesh, here i go again... LOL
>
> sorry...
>
> David
David,
No what is sorry is that you think you have to continue this childish
banter without offering something that substantiates your opinion. How
many times have you heard Terrence live? Why sorry is that a guy the
calibre of a Wynton, or a Terrence, or anyone who choses to play Monette
should have to put up with this line of dribble. That is sorry.
AL
Dr. Trumpet
<too...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> Right on again David
Tootman,
How many times have you hear any of these guys live?
Jealous people who hae nothing better to do than bash and insult......what
a sickening world this NG is becoming.
Time for some time off.....
EarleSlick
>I missed the post on Pete Minger. I agree, he is a wonderful musician. >Does
>he have some new stuff out?
I don't know....I was scanning the shelves for great jazz musicians
(trumpeters, of course) that I've never seen mentioned here. The only thing I
know about him other than being an extraordinary stylist on the flugel, is that
he was part of the Basie band during the 70's. I have a recording of him from
around '93 called "The Pete Minger Quartet-Look to the Sky" If anyone is
really into exploring the possibilities of jazz flugel, they don't get much
better than this guy.///earl slick
DHoff56012
>
>Jealous people who hae nothing better to do than bash and insult......what
>a sickening world this NG is becoming.
Hey, I have the right to my opinion. And my opinion is that I don't like the
way the Monettes sound. I have heard Terrance MANY times, the last time being
a month ago in New Orleans. I love his ideas, his conception, and his growth
as a player, but I just don't like the way the horn sounds. I'm not bashing in
the least, but I do think he would sound better on another horn, at least to my
ears. If this is bashing, then I guess the definition has changed.
As for Wynton, I heard him at a jam session in Copenhagen, and he picked up
someone's Bach and sounded beautiful. To me it was a far better trumpet sound.
So I'm not speaking off the wall here, I'm speaking from personal experience
and what my own ears tell me.
And I'm not jealous of these guys success in the least. I'm very happy for
them, as well as the young trumpet players that are kicking ass! That is a
very encouraging thing to me. And I'm not an unsuccessful trumpet player
myself, so have no reason to be envious of anyone elses success. You will find
that I'm the first one to support someone whose playing I like. But frankly I
prefer Nicholas Payton and Ryan Kisor and Tim Hagans and Jim Rotundi to Wynton
or Terrance, partially because of the sound they get on the horn.
So if this is considered bashing or insulting, I will just withhold my opinions
from now on.
David Hoffman
Turbotrump
>How many times have you hear any of these guys live?
>
>Jealous people who hae nothing better to do than bash and insult......what
>a sickening world this NG is becoming.
to which Dave Hoffman replied:
>David Hoffman
David, Surely you jest. Withholding your opinions in this forum would truely
be a loss to us all. Do Not let one person's careless thoughts or opinions
deter you from sharing with the group. Keep those ideas flowing! You are a
valued contributor and would be sorely missed.
Larry Woods
Charles Perron
and he had gone back to school. He was attending University of Miami I
believe. He sure did sound good!
>EarleSlick wrote in message The only thing I
EarleSlick
>And my >opinion is that I don't like the
>way the Monettes sound. I have heard >Terrance MANY times, the last >time
>being
>a month ago in New Orleans. I love his >ideas, his conception, and his
>growth
>as a player, but I just don't like the way the >horn sounds. I'm not >bashing
>in
>the least, but I do think he would sound >better on another horn, at least >to
>my
>ears. If this is bashing, then I guess the >definition has changed.
>As for Wynton, I heard him at a jam session in >Copenhagen, and he >picked up
>someone's Bach and sounded beautiful. To >me it was a far better >trumpet
>sound.
I was listening to some "before and after" Wynton earlier today and this
particular thread crossed my mind. For whatever it's worth, I once felt the
same way, but now I definately prefer to listen to these guys on the Monette,
especially in Blanchard's hands, which as I've said before IMHO is THE perfect
marriage of style and horn. Your personal opinion of the tone aside, don't you
feel that Wynton became remarkably "better" for lack a more descriptive word
after he found a home on the Monette? Personally, anytime I've considered
Wynton to be a genius on the trumpet(and I don't like to throw that word around
lightly) it was always post-Bach....People are certainly going to get better
as time goes on, but the almost immediate and dramatic difference in his
playing and ideas (which seemed obvious, at least to me) can only be
attributed, in my opinion to his change of horns. 2 years ago, I had trouble
getting used to the tone, but now I sincerely believe the brand switch made all
the difference for him. I can say from my limited experience, that he sounds
just about perfect to me in a live setting. maybe you just need a little more
time before you come around to it.//earl slick
all content is my opinion....I could be wrong
DHoff56012
>particular thread crossed my mind. For whatever it's worth, I once felt the
>same way, but now I definately prefer to listen to these guys on the Monette,
>especially in Blanchard's hands, which as I've said before IMHO is THE
>perfect
>marriage of style and horn. Your personal opinion of the tone aside, don't
>you
>feel that Wynton became remarkably "better" for lack a more descriptive word
>after he found a home on the Monette? Personally, anytime I've considered
>Wynton to be a genius on the trumpet(and I don't like to throw that word
>around
>lightly) it was always post-Bach....People are certainly going to get better
>as time goes on, but the almost immediate and dramatic difference in his
>playing and ideas (which seemed obvious, at least to me) can only be
>attributed, in my opinion to his change of horns. 2 years ago, I had trouble
>getting used to the tone, but now I sincerely believe the brand switch made
>all
>the difference for him. I can say from my limited experience, that he sounds
>just about perfect to me in a live setting. maybe you just need a little
>more
>time before you come around to it.//earl slick
>
>
Interesting observation. I do believe that the people that play on these horns
love the way they sound. And the horn may fit Wynton. After all this talk i'm
trying to pinpoint what I don't like about the sound, and I think that I don't
hear the timbral variations on the Monette that are present on other horns.
Some people like this quality, I'm sure.
David
Dr. Trumpet
dhoff...@aol.com (DHoff56012) wrote:
> Interesting observation. I do believe that the people that play on
these horns
> love the way they sound. And the horn may fit Wynton. After all this
talk i'm
> trying to pinpoint what I don't like about the sound, and I think that I don't
> hear the timbral variations on the Monette that are present on other horns.
> Some people like this quality, I'm sure.
>
> David
David,
I can appreciate this viewpoint. That certainly is one view that I have
heard of the instruments. Isn't this a much more productive way to
discuss this? I certainly respect the above message a great deal more now
that specifics or at least "general" specifics are applied.
I love mine, but you don't have to love it. You can love the instrument
you play, and I may not like it. That's a good thing in my book. Unique
approaches are what makes the world go around!
Best wishes,
AL
EarleSlick
>The last stuff of his I heard was almost like "smooth" jazz, but like you
>say,
>more soulful ("chunky" jazz, perhaps?). Not my cup of tea (reminded me >of a
Colt
>45 radio ad, actually). I know at one point he was following up on that >80s
Miles
>Davis/Marcus Miller kind of groove.
I never had a minute of problem with either one of these recordings, and thanks
to you, now I can't listen to it without craving malt liquor....thanks a damn
lot Howard. ;)
After going back to his first recording, I should add that they are in fact
mostly different in style but with some similarities. Also, I think I know
exactly what you're referring to with the Miles/Marcus Miller comparison. At
least one of the cuts on the second recording sound like something from Miles'
"Tutu". Still, Pharez Whitted gets my "Talent most deserving of wider
recognition" vote....great playing, great ideas....I'm still a big fan. Now,
if you'll excuse me I need to run to the store.///earl slick
All content is my opinion...I could be wrong
Eric Bolvin
What up fellas! I like Terrance on the Monette. I like Wynton too, although his
music doesn't appeal to me as much. I sure liked the NBA spots, though. Those
ruled!
For Earle- I didn't send you mail for my gig on June 4. I'll be at the Gordon
Biersch in San Jose on July 2nd from 9pm-12.
All original EB stuff. All free. All good. Stop by and say hi! It's a nice concert
setting outside.
EarleSlick wrote:
> David wrote:
> >And my >opinion is that I don't like the
> >way the Monettes sound. I have heard >Terrance MANY times, the last >time
> >being
> >a month ago in New Orleans. I love his >ideas, his conception, and his
> >growth
> >as a player, but I just don't like the way the >horn sounds. I'm not >bashing
> >in
> >the least, but I do think he would sound >better on another horn, at least >to
> >my
> >ears. If this is bashing, then I guess the >definition has changed.
>
> >As for Wynton, I heard him at a jam session in >Copenhagen, and he >picked up
> >someone's Bach and sounded beautiful. To >me it was a far better >trumpet
> >sound.
>
> I was listening to some "before and after" Wynton earlier today and this
> particular thread crossed my mind. For whatever it's worth, I once felt the
> same way, but now I definately prefer to listen to these guys on the Monette,
> especially in Blanchard's hands, which as I've said before IMHO is THE perfect
> marriage of style and horn. Your personal opinion of the tone aside, don't you
> feel that Wynton became remarkably "better" for lack a more descriptive word
> after he found a home on the Monette? Personally, anytime I've considered
> Wynton to be a genius on the trumpet(and I don't like to throw that word around
> lightly) it was always post-Bach....People are certainly going to get better
> as time goes on, but the almost immediate and dramatic difference in his
> playing and ideas (which seemed obvious, at least to me) can only be
> attributed, in my opinion to his change of horns. 2 years ago, I had trouble
> getting used to the tone, but now I sincerely believe the brand switch made all
> the difference for him. I can say from my limited experience, that he sounds
> just about perfect to me in a live setting. maybe you just need a little more
> time before you come around to it.//earl slick
>
> all content is my opinion....I could be wrong
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