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W Souder

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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I currently use a 1 1/4c with my Olds Recording. I have had good luck with a
big mouthpiece, mainly because of my history as a low brass player. My
question is, if I went to a 'piece with a shallower cup, but with the same
diameter, would that give me a better high range without compromising my
endurance? Next question: does anybody have any recomendations for a 'piece I
should try? Thanks.

Pax, Bill Souder l_P

Michael Manthey

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Nov 12, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/12/00
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I assume you are talking about a Bach 1 1/4 c correct, and you are
needing more support in the upper register? Many mouthpiece makers make
large diameters with shallower cups.
I would first have several questions. #1 how is your uppper register now
#2 Are you just needing a "boost", as it were, to the range you already
have or are you unable to play some notes simply because your piece is
the wrong one for the music you are trying to play? In either case my
best suggestion is to contact STORK at their
site...http://www.bypas.com/~stork/...or their
e-mail...stork@plainfield.bypass.com. They have a great publication
called "Understanding The Mouthpiece". Scott Laskey also has a site for
his company, Also great mouthpieces. Then again you could always call
the Bach company & see if they make the same rim with a slightly
shallower cup.
Good luck & don't for get that there is no majic piece that can take the
place of practice.


Jim Donaldson

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Nov 12, 2000, 7:41:52 PM11/12/00
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>does anybody have any recomendations for a 'piece I
>should try?

With cup diameters in the Bach 1.5 range, but with shallower cups, here's a
couple that I like:

Stork Studio Master 2MV. This is described as a "cross-over" piece for legit
guys who get stuck having to play some commercial gig. It is a medium shallow V
shaped cup, large backbore, and short shank. I think it is a unique combination
of good stuff. It is the largest cup in the Studio Master series which is all
pretty shallow. I can maintain a pleasant sound in the midrange and give it a
pretty good zing in the upper register. It does make playing whatever notes you
have up there easier. I've used this on my Olds Recording and they seem to mate
up well.

I also like the Curry mouthpieces. He has a series of shallower cups on the
classic Bach 1.5 rim, ranging from just a bit shallower to very shallow: ZM, Z,
XS, respectively. The mouthpieces are so good you may want to switch to his
1.5C, and then the rims will match exactly as you go shallower.

For a great cheap alternative, find a Schilke 15B, a generally great all round
mouthpiece for those who aren't required to sound 'symphonic' day in and day
out. The usual Schilke stuff with a slightly shallower cup than the straight
15. I have students who play lead on this and it works great without screwing
up their wind ensemble chops.

I'm sure others have their favorites as well.

Jim Donaldson
Denver Colorado
JFDon...@aol.com

The Schilke Loyalist
http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke

Jim Donaldson
Denver Colorado
JFDon...@aol.com

The Schilke Loyalist
http://www.dallasmusic.org/schilke

SiegTrmpt

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Nov 12, 2000, 7:46:31 PM11/12/00
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>>does anybody have any recomendations for a 'piece I
> >should try?
>

Mark Curry can make up just about anything you want. Stick with the same rim
but maybe a "D" style cup and slightly more open backbore to compensate.

Jim Donaldson

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Nov 12, 2000, 7:52:21 PM11/12/00
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I'm sorry, I inadvertently converted Mr Seig from a Bach 1.25 player to a 1.5
player. Curry has a series of 1.25 mouthpieces as well and the Stork and
Schilke are in the same ball park.

All the moutpieces I mentioned are stock and are available for very reasonable
prices.

SKEW999

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Nov 12, 2000, 8:35:37 PM11/12/00
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hey,
Check out some Warburtons...you might want to try a 2S, a 2 VS, and 2M.
A tighter backbore such as a Warburton 4 or 5 would also help.
later,
joe

doctrpt

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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The 1 1/4C is a shallower cup than a 1C or a 5C, closer to the 3C cup (which is
a shallower version of the C cup, too). The interesting thing is that the cup
is shallower than a c cup but deeper than a d cup.

However, Bach does not regularly make a 1 1/4D mouthpiece, so in order to get
one, you'd have to special order it. It might be best to get in touch with
your favorite custom mouthpiece maker and have them custom craft one for your.


Another alternative: Monette B1-5L in the LT weight!

AL

Alan Rouse

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Nov 13, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/13/00
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You might want to try Schilke 14b, 14a4, 15b, and 15a4. You can get
several on trial from www.mouthpieceexpress.com and then send back the
ones you don't want to keep. Net cost to keep one is around $28 if I
remember right.

You will probably sound brighter on the more shallow sizes but with
practice your sound will generally return to your normal sound(K-
tonguing on Clark Tech #2,3 etc really helps)


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