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ANYONE BUT BUSH!!!
>
>
>THE WHITE HOUSE
>WASHINGTON, DC
>
>Subject: George W. Bush Resume
>
>
>EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE
>
>
>LAW ENFORCEMENT:
>
>* I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for
driving under the
>influence of alcohol.
>
>* I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
>days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is
not available.
>
>MILITARY:
>* I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went
AWOL.
>
>* I refused to take a drug test or answer any
questions about my drug use.
>
>* By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able
to avoid combat duty
>in Vietnam.
>COLLEGE:
>* I graduated from Yale University with a low C
average.
>
>* I was a cheerleader.
>
>PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
>* I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
>
>* I began my career in the oil business in Midland,
Texas, in 1975.
>
>* I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil
in Texas. The company
>went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
>
>* I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a
sweetheart deal that took
>land using taxpayer money.
>
>* With the help of my father and our right-wing
friends in the oil industry
>(including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor
of Texas.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
>* I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and
oil companies, making
>Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
>
>* During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as
the most smog-ridden
>city in America.
>
>* I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to
the tune of billions in
>borrowed money.
>
>* I set the record for the most executions by any
governor in American
>history.
>
>* With the help of my brother, the governor of
Florida, and my father's
>appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President
after losing by over
>500,000 votes.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
>* I am the first President in U.S. history to enter
office with a criminal
>record.
>
>* I invaded and occupied two countries at a
continuing cost of over one
>billion dollars per week.
>
>* I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted
the U.S.Treasury.
>
>* I shattered the record for the largest annual
deficit in U.S. history.
>
>* I set an economic record for most private
bankruptcies filed in any
>12-month period.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in
a 12-month period.
>
>* I presided over the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market.
>
>* In my first year in office, over 2 million
Americans lost their jobs and
>that trend continues every month.
>
>* I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the
richest of any
>administration in U.S. history.
>
>* My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a
Chevron oil tanker named
>after her.
>
>* I set the record for most campaign fundraising
trips by a U.S. President.
>
>* I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for
receiving the most
>corporate campaign donations.
>
>* My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one
of my best friends,
>Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate
bankruptcy fraud in U.S.
>history, Enron.
>
>* My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
>assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during
my presidential
>election decision.
>
>* I have protected my friends at Enron and
Halliburton against investigation
>or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica
>Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one
of the biggest
>corporate rip-offs in history.
>
>* I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S.
history and refused to
>intervene when corruption involving the oil industry
was revealed.
>
>* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S.
history.
>
>* I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
>government contracts.
>
>* I appointed more convicted criminals to
administration than any President
>in U.S. history.
>
>* I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the
largest bureaucracy in
>the history of the United States government.
>
>* I've broken more international treaties than any
President in U.S.
>history.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to have the United
Nations remove the U.S.
>from the Human Rights Commission.
>
>* I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
>
>* I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S.
"prisoners of war" detainees
>and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva
Convention.
>
>* I am the first President in history to refuse
United Nations election
>inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
>
>* I set the record for holding the fewest number of
press conferences of any
>President since the advent of television.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most days on vacation
in any one-year
>period.
>
>* After taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
>security failure in U.S. history.
>
>* I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the
World Trade Center
>attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the
most hated country in
>the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world
history.
>
>* I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to simultaneously
>protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for
>protesters against any person in the history of
mankind.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to order an
unprovoked, preemptive attack
>and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
did so against the will
>of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens,
and the world
>community.
>
>* I have cut health care benefits for war veterans
and support a cut in duty
>benefits for active duty troops and their families-in
war time.
>
>* In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our
reasons for attacking
>Iraq, then blamed those lies on our British friends.
>
>* I am the first President in history to have a
majority of Europeans (71%)
>view my presidency as the biggest threat to world
peace and security.
>
>* I am supporting the development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster," a
>Weapon of Mass Destruction.
>
>RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
>* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are
now in my father's
>library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records of SEC investigations into my insider
trading and my bankrupt
>companies are sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my
Vice-president attended
>regarding public energy policy are sealed and
unavailable for public review.
>
>PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
>
>PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW.
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ANYONE BUT BUSH!!!
>
>
>THE WHITE HOUSE
>WASHINGTON, DC
>
>Subject: George W. Bush Resume
>
>
>EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE
>
>
>LAW ENFORCEMENT:
>
>* I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for
driving under the
>influence of alcohol.
>
>* I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's
license suspended for 30
>days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is
not available.
>
>MILITARY:
>* I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL.
>
>* I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use.
>
>* By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able
to avoid combat duty
>in Vietnam.
>COLLEGE:
>* I graduated from Yale University with a low C
average.
>
>* I was a cheerleader.
>
>PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
>* I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
>
>* I began my career in the oil business in Midland,
Texas, in 1975.
>
>* I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in
Texas. The company
>went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
>
>* I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a
sweetheart deal that took
>land using taxpayer money.
>
>* With the help of my father and our right-wing friends
in the oil industry
>(including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor
of Texas.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
>* I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil
companies, making
>Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
>
>* During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the
most smog-ridden
>city in America.
>
>* I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the
tune of billions in
>borrowed money.
>
>* I set the record for the most executions by any
governor in American
>history.
>
>* With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida,
and my father's
>appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President
after losing by over
>500,000 votes.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
>* I am the first President in U.S. history to enter
office with a criminal
>record.
>
>* I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing
cost of over one
>billion dollars per week.
>
>* I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted
the U.S.Treasury.
>
>* I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit
in U.S. history.
>
>* I set an economic record for most private
bankruptcies filed in any
>12-month period.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a
12-month period.
>
>* I presided over the biggest drop in the history of
the U.S. stock market.
>
>* In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans
lost their jobs and
>that trend continues every month.
>
>* I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the
richest of any
>administration in U.S. history.
>
>* My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a
Chevron oil tanker named
>after her.
>
>* I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips
by a U.S. President.
>
>* I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for
receiving the most
>corporate campaign donations.
>
>* My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of
my best friends,
>Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate
bankruptcy fraud in U.S.
>history, Enron.
>
>* My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
>assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my
presidential
>election decision.
>
>* I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton
against investigation
>or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica
>Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one
of the biggest
>corporate rip-offs in history.
>
>* I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S.
history and refused to
>intervene when corruption involving the oil industry
was revealed.
>
>* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S.
history.
>
>* I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted
criminals to be awarded
>government contracts.
>
>* I appointed more convicted criminals to
administration than any President
>in U.S. history.
>
>* I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the
largest bureaucracy in
>the history of the United States government.
>
>* I've broken more international treaties than any
President in U.S.
>history.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to have the United
Nations remove the U.S.
>from the Human Rights Commission.
>
>* I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
>
>* I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S.
"prisoners of war" detainees
>and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva
Convention.
>
>* I am the first President in history to refuse United
Nations election
>inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
>
>* I set the record for holding the fewest number of
press conferences of any
>President since the advent of television.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most days on vacation
in any one-year
>period.
>
>* After taking off the entire month of August, I
presided over the worst
>security failure in U.S. history.
>
>* I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the
World Trade Center
>attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the
most hated country in
>the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world
history.
>
>* I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to simultaneously
>protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for
>protesters against any person in the history of
mankind.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to order an unprovoked,
preemptive attack
>and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I
did so against the will
>of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens,
and the world
>community.
>
>* I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and
support a cut in duty
>benefits for active duty troops and their families-in
war time.
>
>* In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our
reasons for attacking
>Iraq, then blamed those lies on our British friends.
>
>* I am the first President in history to have a
majority of Europeans (71%)
>view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace
and security.
>
>* I am supporting the development of a nuclear
"Tactical Bunker Buster," a
>Weapon of Mass Destruction.
>
>RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
>* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now
in my father's
>library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records of SEC investigations into my insider
trading and my bankrupt
>companies are sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my
Vice-president attended
>regarding public energy policy are sealed and
unavailable for public review.
>
>PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
>
>PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW.
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Hello to all my friends and family!
Probably to the surprise of nobody, I am currently in
Washington D.C. training for a job with the DNC's grassroots campaign to get
Bush out of the White House this Election. I want you all to read this and
forward to as many people as you can. In order to protect our civil
liberties, our right to privacy, our friends and family in the military, and
a woman's right to choose (among countless other rights), it is absolutely
essential that Bush does not win another four year term.
Enjoy...
ANYONE BUT BUSH!!!
>
>
>THE WHITE HOUSE
>WASHINGTON, DC
>
>Subject: George W. Bush Resume
>
>
>EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE
>
>
>LAW ENFORCEMENT:
>
>* I was arrested in Kennebunkport, Maine, in 1976 for
driving under the
>influence of alcohol.
>
>* I pled guilty, paid a fine, and had my driver's license
suspended for 30
>days. My Texas driving record has been "lost" and is not
available.
>
>MILITARY:
>* I joined the Texas Air National Guard and went AWOL.
>
>* I refused to take a drug test or answer any questions
about my drug use.
>
>* By joining the Texas Air National Guard, I was able to
avoid combat duty
>in Vietnam.
>COLLEGE:
>* I graduated from Yale University with a low C average.
>
>* I was a cheerleader.
>
>PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
>* I ran for U.S. Congress and lost.
>
>* I began my career in the oil business in Midland,
Texas, in 1975.
>
>* I bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in
Texas. The company
>went bankrupt shortly after I sold all my stock.
>
>* I bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a
sweetheart deal that took
>land using taxpayer money.
>
>* With the help of my father and our right-wing friends
in the oil industry
>(including Enron CEO Ken Lay), I was elected governor of
Texas.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS GOVERNOR OF TEXAS:
>* I changed Texas pollution laws to favor power and oil
companies, making
>Texas the most polluted state in the Union.
>
>* During my tenure, Houston replaced Los Angeles as the
most smog-ridden
>city in America.
>
>* I cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas treasury to the
tune of billions in
>borrowed money.
>
>* I set the record for the most executions by any
governor in American
>history.
>
>* With the help of my brother, the governor of Florida,
and my father's
>appointments to the Supreme Court, I became President
after losing by over
>500,000 votes.
>
>ACCOMPLISHMENTS AS PRESIDENT:
>* I am the first President in U.S. history to enter
office with a criminal
>record.
>
>* I invaded and occupied two countries at a continuing
cost of over one
>billion dollars per week.
>
>* I spent the U.S. surplus and effectively bankrupted the
U.S.Treasury.
>
>* I shattered the record for the largest annual deficit
in U.S. history.
>
>* I set an economic record for most private bankruptcies
filed in any
>12-month period.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most foreclosures in a
12-month period.
>
>* I presided over the biggest drop in the history of the
U.S. stock market.
>
>* In my first year in office, over 2 million Americans
lost their jobs and
>that trend continues every month.
>
>* I'm proud that the members of my cabinet are the
richest of any
>administration in U.S. history.
>
>* My "poorest millionaire," Condoleeza Rice, has a
Chevron oil tanker named
>after her.
>
>* I set the record for most campaign fundraising trips by
a U.S. President.
>
>* I am the all-time U.S. and world record-holder for
receiving the most
>corporate campaign donations.
>
>* My largest lifetime campaign contributor, and one of my
best friends,
>Kenneth Lay, presided over the largest corporate
bankruptcy fraud in U.S.
>history, Enron.
>
>* My political party used Enron private jets and
corporate attorneys to
>assure my success with the U.S. Supreme Court during my
presidential
>election decision.
>
>* I have protected my friends at Enron and Halliburton
against investigation
>or prosecution. More time and money was spent
investigating the Monica
>Lewinsky affair than has been spent investigating one of
the biggest
>corporate rip-offs in history.
>
>* I presided over the biggest energy crisis in U.S.
history and refused to
>intervene when corruption involving the oil industry was
revealed.
>
>* I presided over the highest gasoline prices in U.S.
history.
>
>* I changed the U.S. policy to allow convicted criminals
to be awarded
>government contracts.
>
>* I appointed more convicted criminals to administration
than any President
>in U.S. history.
>
>* I created the Ministry of Homeland Security, the
largest bureaucracy in
>the history of the United States government.
>
>* I've broken more international treaties than any
President in U.S.
>history.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to have the United
Nations remove the U.S.
>from the Human Rights Commission.
>
>* I withdrew the U.S. from the World Court of Law.
>
>* I refused to allow inspectors access to U.S. "prisoners
of war" detainees
>and thereby have refused to abide by the Geneva
Convention.
>
>* I am the first President in history to refuse United
Nations election
>inspectors (during the 2002 U.S. election).
>
>* I set the record for holding the fewest number of press
conferences of any
>President since the advent of television.
>
>* I set the all-time record for most days on vacation in
any one-year
>period.
>
>* After taking off the entire month of August, I presided
over the worst
>security failure in U.S. history.
>
>* I garnered the most sympathy for the U.S. after the
World Trade Center
>attacks and less than a year later made the U.S. the most
hated country in
>the world, the largest failure of diplomacy in world
history.
>
>* I have set the all-time record for most people
worldwide to simultaneously
>protest me in public venues (15 million people),
shattering the record for
>protesters against any person in the history of mankind.
>
>* I am the first U.S. President to order an unprovoked,
preemptive attack
>and the military occupation of a sovereign nation. I did
so against the will
>of the United Nations, the majority of U.S. citizens, and
the world
>community.
>
>* I have cut health care benefits for war veterans and
support a cut in duty
>benefits for active duty troops and their families-in war
time.
>
>* In my State of the Union Address, I lied about our
reasons for attacking
>Iraq, then blamed those lies on our British friends.
>
>* I am the first President in history to have a majority
of Europeans (71%)
>view my presidency as the biggest threat to world peace
and security.
>
>* I am supporting the development of a nuclear "Tactical
Bunker Buster," a
>Weapon of Mass Destruction.
>
>RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
>* All records of my tenure as governor of Texas are now
in my father's
>library, sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records of SEC investigations into my insider
trading and my bankrupt
>companies are sealed and unavailable for public view.
>
>* All records or minutes from meetings that I, or my
Vice-president attended
>regarding public energy policy are sealed and unavailable
for public review.
>
>PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
>
>PLEASE SEND THIS TO EVERY VOTER YOU KNOW.
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William Graham
"JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> >Subject: George W. Bush Resume
Big snip of heavily biased, off topic, bull shit.........
.....I ran for president again in 2004, and was reelected by a huge
majority, because I was the first president in over 40 years to actually do
something about the world's ass holes, instead of just talking about
them..........
Incidentally, the governor of Texas has no power to pardon convicted
murderers.....He can only delay their executions for 30 days, one time
only........
Jeff Helgesen
> the first president in over 40 years to actually do
> something about the world's ass holes, instead of just talking about
> them..........
Yes, he appointed them to positions of responsibility. Good point.
orca
Mr. Bush's resume sounds fine to me.
Al Cirino
by every american. Vote for Bush, if your a loser. He is worse than Saddam
Hussein.
He screwed Texas, he is screwing the United States of America. If you have a
brain, you won't vote for Bush.
Greg Evans
Depends...if he plays a Monette, I won't vote for him! :-)
Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage
>Bush's Resume is true, he is a bullshit artist, who should get his ass kicked
>by every american. Vote for Bush, if your a loser. He is worse than Saddam
>Hussein.
Preposterous!!!!!!!!!
If you can show us where his mass graves are located, then I MIGHT
believe that. It's shameful and ignorant to make even the slightest
comparison of Bush being likened to that barbarian Saddam.
BTW - ALL politicians are bullshit artists
-
beagle...@comcast.net
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> "JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:q67oc.98055$Uz1....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>
>> >Subject: George W. Bush Resume
>
>
>
> Big snip of heavily biased, off topic, bull shit.........
Let's see. JoeGuy: heavily biased, off topic
William Graham: heavily biased, off topic. A
draw so far.
> .....I ran for president again in 2004, and was reelected by a huge
> majority, because I was the first president in over 40 years to actually do
> something about the world's ass holes, instead of just talking about
> them..........
>
> Incidentally, the governor of Texas has no power to pardon convicted
> murderers.....He can only delay their executions for 30 days, one time
> only........
>
JoeGuy's heavily biased off-topic rant: deeply rooted in
the truth. William Graham's heavily biased, off topic
rant: one paragraph of pure fantasy, and one paragraph
which is contradicted by the Texas constitution. The
"Gov" can pardon anyone. His powers of reprieve are
more limited, but let's not sully the heavily biased
with facts.
JoeGuys rant was egregiously ill-formatted, and way too
long. William Graham's was mercifully short (its only
strong point), but he used more than his allotted allowance
of periods, insisting on the bizarre technique of ending
every sentence with as many "dots" as possible.
Round one: JoeGuy wins.
No Spam
> William Graham wrote:
>
>> "JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:q67oc.98055$Uz1....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>> >Subject: George W. Bush Resume
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Big snip of heavily biased, off topic, bull shit.........
>
>
> Let's see. JoeGuy: heavily biased, off topic
> William Graham: heavily biased, off topic. A
> draw so far.
>
>> .....I ran for president again in 2004, and was reelected by a huge
>> majority, because I was the first president in over 40 years to
>> actually do
>> something about the world's ass holes, instead of just talking about
>> them..........
>>
>> Incidentally, the governor of Texas has no power to pardon convicted
>> murderers.....He can only delay their executions for 30 days, one time
>> only........
>>
>
> JoeGuy's heavily biased off-topic rant: deeply rooted in
> the truth. William Graham's heavily biased, off topic
> rant: one paragraph of pure fantasy, and one paragraph
> which is contradicted by the Texas constitution. The
> "Gov" can pardon anyone. His powers of reprieve are
> more limited, but let's not sully the heavily biased
> with facts.
A clarification. The Governor of Texas's pardon powers
to not extend to cases of treason or impeachment. "In
all criminal cases, except treason and impeachment, ... "
(Ellipsis copyright 2004 W. Graham)
William Graham
"No Spam" <nos...@hormel.org> wrote in message
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hands. It is in the hands of the American people, who will make their
decision known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important
decision to be made......
William Graham
This is highly biased.....Sure, the govenor can pardon prisoners. But what
govenor would release convicted murders out onto the street? - The govenor
cannot change their sentances from "death" to "life without possibility of
parole." So, his only real options are to either provide a 30 day delay of
execution, or to completely pardon the offender out onto the street.
Naturally, this severely limits his ability to stop the Texas courts'
propensity to sentence capitol offenders to death, and Bush should not be
blamed for this.
Tim Priddy
(in article <vpyoc.36084$iF6.3607534@attbi_s02>):
> It is in the hands of the American people, who will make their decision
> known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important decision to be
> made......
Hmmm, if I remember correctly, didn't Gore get 500,000 votes more than Bush,
and still lost? So I guess this point (hands of the American people) isn't
even true.
Sorry William.
Regards,
--
J. Timothy Priddy
Lead/Ride/Side--all styles
Arranger, Sight-Reader, Clinician
Central Michigan Region
No Spam
So when you said "the governor of Texas has no power
to pardon convicted murderers" you were wrong. As I
said. Pure fiction.
No Spam
Or maybe the Supreme Court will once again order
that the ballot counting be stopped, and the votes
not counted.
> who will make their
> decision known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important
> decision to be made......
Hey, that's fine. YOU were the one claiming to
see the future. But if you wanna clam (Ob RMT)
up and wait, great.
>
>
Chris Kralles
> Depends...if he plays a Monette, I won't vote for him! :-)
He's spending our money like some rich kid spending his dad's money on
a Monette...completly unnecessary and 5 x to much!
Mark Bradley
> On 12 May 2004 17:47:41 GMT, sharkp...@aol.com (Al Cirino) wrote:
>
> >Bush's Resume is true, he is a bullshit artist, who should get his ass kicked
> >by every american. Vote for Bush, if your a loser. He is worse than Saddam
> >Hussein.
>
Spoken like a good little al-Qaida terrorist!
JoeGuy
2AM. he ran back to tallahasse in the middle of the night last time...
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THE Old Man
<johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote:
From: Gdu...@aol.com
> Date: Sun, 2 May 2004 14:02:28 EDT
> Subject: Bush's Resume
> To: Gca...@aol.com, Happ...@aol.com,
>bartholomew...@ps.ge.com, rc...@comcast.net, bug...@webtv.net,
>CRP7...@aol.com, Gayl...@bellsouth.net, "Marc" <M...@alltropic.com>,
>jua...@nycap.rr.com, MCJE...@aol.com, jonk...@earthlink.net,
>Kr...@rhodes.edu, Little...@aol.com, Rac...@Thingsbyrachel.com,
>SZo...@aol.com
>
<BIG SNIPPING JOB TOOK PLACE HERE> But I forwarded your e-mail addy
plus all of your friends to our local friendly spam mailer. I'm sure
you need something to read and he said he would definitely fix you up.
The SNIPPING was fun but if you will bend over a bit I have a set of
bloodless castrators I use from time to time on other bull S. artists.
Just think ... tomorrow you can sing soprano in your local malcontent
choir.
Donald From Mississippi.
I plan to live to be 100.
So far so good.
William Graham
"Tim Priddy" <trum...@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:27:23 -0400, William Graham wrote
> (in article <vpyoc.36084$iF6.3607534@attbi_s02>):
>
> > It is in the hands of the American people, who will make their decision
> > known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important decision
to be
> > made......
>
> Hmmm, if I remember correctly, didn't Gore get 500,000 votes more than
Bush,
> and still lost? So I guess this point (hands of the American people)
isn't
> even true.
>
> Sorry William.
>
> Regards,
> --
>
> J. Timothy Priddy
Tsk, tsk.......I had no idea that trumpet players were such
socialists.......
Jerry Freedman
Actually, given Bin Laden's aims and Bush's actions, Al Qaeda would
probably be a Bush campaign contributor
Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage
<trum...@chartermi.net> wrote:
>On Wed, 12 May 2004 19:27:23 -0400, William Graham wrote
>(in article <vpyoc.36084$iF6.3607534@attbi_s02>):
>
>> It is in the hands of the American people, who will make their decision
>> known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important decision to be
>> made......
>
>Hmmm, if I remember correctly, didn't Gore get 500,000 votes more than Bush,
>and still lost? So I guess this point (hands of the American people) isn't
>even true.
>
Until such time as they do away with the Electoral College , it's
going to be that way.
-
beagle...@comcast.net
ICQ 226665468
John Miller
> Until such time as they do away with the Electoral College , it's
> going to be that way.
There is a common misconception these days that the U.S. is a democracy. We
aren't, nor was it the intent of the Founding Fathers that we be such.
(Shoot, originally, U.S. Senators weren't elected by the public.)
--
John Miller
Email address: domain, n4vu.com; username, jsm
I want you to MEMORIZE the collected poems of EDNA ST VINCENT MILLAY
... BACKWARDS!!
-Zippy the Pinhead
Jeff Helgesen
>
"al Qaeda"
Actually, it's too early to tell how many civilians Bush will be
responsible for killing, so let's give him some time.
RL Merritt
leader in authority, without hard evidence to back up EVERYTHING you echo,
you become a false witness. Deceiving others, you also reap what you sow and
are further deceived. You are a sap. You have been sucked in. You are being
used (although not very effectively).
You need to repent -- God hates a false witness.
Lionheart the elder
--
"JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
Frank Bloise
>
> When you sling crap like this around about anyone, especially evil about a
> leader in authority, without hard evidence to back up EVERYTHING you echo,
> you become a false witness. Deceiving others, you also reap what you sow
> and are further deceived. You are a sap. You have been sucked in. You are
> being used (although not very effectively).
>
> You need to repent -- God hates a false witness.
>
Nixon administration, which was more adroit at deception than the Bush
administration. The guiding principle of this administration seems to be:
we ignore, or misrepresent, the facts if they do not support our theories.
Vic Nutt
newsgroup needs to change.
BTW, all you ABB [anyone but Bush] types...there must be a bunch of
message boards for those or you who desire to operate on feelings and
emotions rather than facts and reality.
Spammers Are Baffled
Tom Dumas
Interesting read: the New Yorker (5/17), Hearts and Minds, pg.27,
written by David Remnick.
Al Cirino
country. You have no brain in this category. Support Bush you loser.
William Graham
"John Miller" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage wrote:
>
> > Until such time as they do away with the Electoral College , it's
> > going to be that way.
>
> There is a common misconception these days that the U.S. is a democracy.
We
> aren't, nor was it the intent of the Founding Fathers that we be such.
> (Shoot, originally, U.S. Senators weren't elected by the public.)
>
Democracy. If I were to get up a petition to take all your money away from
you and distribute it amongst the voters, and everyone (except you, of
course) signed it, and in the ensuing election, everyone voted for it, you
would lose all your money in a Democracy. But in a Constitutional Republic,
the courts would throw the election results out (as they have with many laws
in the past) and you would keep your money. This is what the Constitution is
for.....To protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. - Enjoy!
William Graham
"Frank Bloise" <fwbl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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equally bad. They are all wimps, and are willing to lie their asses off in
order to get just one more vote. As a class, they are the crummiest people I
have ever seen. All of our problems stem directly from our elected
representatives being bought off under the table by, "lobbyists" (read,
bribers) to make laws in restraint of free trade, and this practice is
engaged in by reps on both sides of the aisle, and has been all of my life.
Eventually, it is what is going to kill this country, but I won't be around
to see it, since I am 69 years old.....We are, however at least half way
there. An example: Did you ever wonder why, if you have several more cars
than drivers in your family, you have to pay for a separate liability policy
for all those cars that aren't being driven? - They just sit in your garage,
and don't go anywhere. But they are costing you about 80% of a liability
premium each. How can they start themselves up, go out and find someone to
damage, and have an accident with them? - Liability should be on the
drivers, not the vehicles. But the legislature (your boys) have made these
stupid insurance laws to get more of your money into the pockets of the
insurance companies. - And there are many more examples, believe me.......
William Graham
"Vic Nutt" <vic...@juno.com> wrote in message
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Yes.....It's called: rec.whiners.losers.democrats .....
Or, there's one called: rec.bush.worse_than.saddam ....
William Graham
"Tom Dumas" <tgd...@comcast.net> wrote in message
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The New Yorker, a magazine I used to get, ran a cover picture of Bush riding
a horse across the plains with the blinders on him, instead of the horse.
(about 6 months ago) - I immediately cancelled my subscription. It's sad to
see what used to be a great publication during the Ross years of my youth,
turn into another political liberal rag.
Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage
wrote:
>for.....To protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. - Enjoy!
>
Geez! I thought it was the other way around.
Frank Bloise
>
> And the Democrats are better? - Come on! - Get a life....All
>
All politicians are bad, but some are far worse than others.
Greg Evans
>> for.....To protect the minority from the tyranny of the majority. -
>
> Geez! I thought it was the other way around.
Okay, we'll compromise: "to protect everbody from everyone else".
Brendon Terry
> Eventually, it is what is going to kill this country, but I won't be
around
> to see it, since I am 69 years old.....We are, however at least half way
> there. An example: Did you ever wonder why, if you have several more cars
> than drivers in your family, you have to pay for a separate liability
policy
> for all those cars that aren't being driven? - They just sit in your
garage,
> and don't go anywhere. But they are costing you about 80% of a liability
> premium each.
I think any society that one can live in where "you have several more cars
than drivers in your family", you have to live with all the other crap that
capitalism brings. Sorry.
Pops
I am afraid that the truth finally came out. NONE of them are really for
US.
BUT we don't have a monopoly on this problem. Our friends in other
countries can attest that even over there power corrupts.
Greg Evans
musical and trumpet knowledge...but as political pundits we SUCK. PLEASE,
for the love o' Pete, take the political discussions to another newsgroup.
I come here to AVOID the narrow-minded partisan ranting.
Greg Evans
Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage
I agree. Nothing gets settled.
Despite who is President, either we all have to get up in the morning
to go to work or we have to stay in bed because we have no job. Either
way, it sucks.
Oops! Gotta hide. Thought I saw one of those black helicopters ...you
know the ones that carry guys in black suits and dark glasses.
Tom Dumas
The issue should be whether or not Remnick is being truthful. Tom
Jerry Freedman
It takes a certain kind of person to crave power/adulation etc enough
to go through what it takes to be president or US Senator or
Representative. Honesty, personal integrity are, unfortunately, not
part of the make up of that type of person. The days when it was soley
the drive to public service went with ancient Greece.
Dave Lee
>aren't, nor was it the intent of the Founding Fathers that we be suc
We are a Republic, as in ".... to the Republic, for which it stands, one
nation...."
Or sometimes called a representative democracy. True democracy is like the old
town meeting.
leslie
: I almost miss having Ross Peroit running ;-)
India, Inc. has better representation in Congress than the average
U.S. citizen...
http://www.washingtondispatch.com/article_9026.shtml
A Great Sucking Sound from India
"Commentary by Chris Chatwood
May 12, 2004
[snip]
The US-India Political Action Committee (USINPAC) describes itself as
a bipartisan political action committee promoting the interests of the
Indian American community. The Indian Express in a November 19, 2002
article describing USINPAC, Indian toehold in US political whirlpool,
declared, "The American political process at one level is transparent
and simple - you pay money, you get results. ... "A strong,
well-organized lobby of Indian Americans can push for a clearer
convergence of goals between the two countries, more than the jaded
bureaucrats are prone to do."
According to Sanjay Puri, the Executive Director of USINPAC, "It is
estimated that the Indian American community contributed more than $7
million in the 2000 Presidential Election." ... "With an Indian
American community of nearly 2 million, we must make sure that we
support candidates that best represent our interests and we also must
make sure that each candidate knows that we expect to be well
represented in an Administration that we will help elect." Puri said.
As an American citizen my question to Mr. Puri and USINPAC is what are
these important issues and how much will they cost the American
taxpayer? Taking a look at the USINPAC website some of the issues
USINPAC is promoting are to:
* Ask U.S. Congressmen to, "Oppose HR 2688, a bill introduced on
July 9, 2003 by Representative Thomas Tancredo (R-CO). This bill
seeks to eliminate the H1-B visa program".
* Prevent any protectionist legislation on IT outsourcing at the
Federal level.
* Recognize the importance of the US-India partnership for the 21st
century, and create a counterpart to the Caucus on India and
Indian Americans in the US House of Representatives and to the
Indo-US Parliamentary Forum.
* Support initiatives to provide technical, financial and
infrastructure assistance to India to help fight the AIDS crisis.
* Concern for India's position on the UN Security Council
* Support for trade and the outsourcing of jobs.
* Concern for Indian immigration to the United States.
How successful has USINPAC and their supporters in the Congressional
India Caucus been in meeting their goals? Again looking at USINPACs
website shows:
* USINPAC has stopped the progress of Congressman Tom Tancredo's
bill to kill the H1-B visa program
* Democratic Congressman Robert Menendez of N.J. tried but failed to
win Congressional appropriation of $120 million for earthquake
relief in Gujarat, India in 2001.
* USINPAC's Efforts on HIV/AIDS in India Produce Results - On March
4, 2004 the Senate Foreign Relations Committee unanimously
approved an amendment by Senator Jon S. Corzine (D, NJ) making
India eligible for assistance under the Emergency Plan for AIDS
Relief. The amendment furthers a key objective of USINPACs AIDS
India Initiative making the HIV/AIDS epidemic in India a US
foreign policy priority by securing increased funding for
prevention and treatment, bridging identified gaps in funding and
program needs. USINPAC is planning to hold a joint Senate/House
briefing and a hearing on combating HIV/AIDS in India in the near
future.
* On February 14, 2003 USINPAC, the largest Caucus in the House of
Representatives, organized the first India Caucus day on Capital
Hill. Adil Zanulbhai, Director McKinsey and Co., and a USINPAC
delegate, expressed concern over the recently passed New Jersey
law that bans state government IT outsourcing to offshore
companies. Rep. Joe Crowley (D-NY) co-chair of the Congressional
Caucus on India and India Americans, expressed his grave
disappointment with the passage of the law, and strongly urged
members of the Indian American community to actively petition
their elected officials and members of the India Caucus to stop
such laws from being enacted.
* The US India Political Action Committee (USINPAC) strongly urged
the 143 members of the Congressional Caucus on India and Indian
Americans, the largest Caucus in the House, to proactively engage
with the Indian American community in resolving its concerns. The
call was issued during the occasion of the first India Caucus Day
organized by USINPAC at Capitol Hill on February 13, 2003. USINPAC
organized India Caucus Day to urge the Caucus to develop a
concerted plan to address the issues facing the Indian American
community.
One of the goals of the USINPAC was to create a caucus in the U.S.
Senate similar to the caucus in the U.S. House. Well, it appears that
this goal has become reality. I noticed in the Hindustan Times for
April 30, 2004 there was an article bearing the following headline:
Hillary, Cornyn launch Senate India Caucus.
Quickly going to the UNSINPAC website I find the following self
congratulatory news headline: USINPAC Helps Launch U.S. Senate India
Caucus.
A similar story in the India Times stated that: The Caucus, launched
by Republican Senator John Cornyn and Democratic Senator Hillary
Clinton, includes Senate Majority Leader Republican Bill First and
Senate Minority Leader Democrat Tom Daschle who vowed to do their best
to bring the two democratic nations even closer. Senator Cornyn said
the Caucus had 32 members and added more are expected to join it soon
an impressive achievement in a chamber of 100 members. A similar
Caucus is already there in the much larger House of Representatives,
which began with nine members and has grown to 185.
You know its sort of funny, before I got into politics, I always
thought that the U.S. Senate and House were supposed to represent the
U.S. of A. not India. It sure seems like politics is all about
special interest, money and influence instead of what is the right
thing to do for the United States and the American citizen..."
The list of quislings in the House is available here:
Representative Crowley: Issues: Foreign Affairs: India
http://crowley.house.gov/issues/india.htm
--Jerry Leslie
Note: les...@jrlvax.houston.rr.com is invalid for email
Scott Humphries
rep and obviously state reps/senators or however they were set up. Tomorrow
if the Florida house and senate passed a bill to only let registered members
of the NRA vote for president then it can (using all of Florida's electorial
college votes only of course) or even something more stupid like a cock
fight determine the winner in florida. You might get some equal protection
fights from the naacp but it's constitutioinal.
I wish it were the same way today. If the public could only vote for as
high as the us house then people would pay a whole lot more attention to
that race number one, and there would be a whole lot less hypocracy in the
senate and presidential positions. Not to menion buying votes.
"John Miller" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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Scott Humphries
on it to not be counted
"JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> maybe brother jeb can dig up more florida votes while every one is asleep
at
> 2AM. he ran back to tallahasse in the middle of the night last time...
>
>
>
> "No Spam" <nos...@hormel.org> wrote in message
> news:g2Aoc.3978$zO3....@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > William Graham wrote:
> >
> > > "No Spam" <nos...@hormel.org> wrote in message
> > > news:r6yoc.3825$zO3...@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net...
> > >
> > >>William Graham wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>"JoeGuy" <johnsh...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> > >>>news:q67oc.98055$Uz1....@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> >Subject: George W. Bush Resume
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>Big snip of heavily biased, off topic, bull shit.........
> > >>
> > >>Let's see. JoeGuy: heavily biased, off topic
> > >>William Graham: heavily biased, off topic. A
> > >>draw so far.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>.....I ran for president again in 2004, and was reelected by a huge
> > >>>majority, because I was the first president in over 40 years to
> actually
> > >
> > > do
> > >
> > >>>something about the world's ass holes, instead of just talking about
> > >>>them..........
> > >>>
> > >>>Incidentally, the governor of Texas has no power to pardon convicted
> > >>>murderers.....He can only delay their executions for 30 days, one
time
> > >>>only........
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >>JoeGuy's heavily biased off-topic rant: deeply rooted in
> > >>the truth. William Graham's heavily biased, off topic
> > >>rant: one paragraph of pure fantasy, and one paragraph
> > >>which is contradicted by the Texas constitution. The
> > >>"Gov" can pardon anyone. His powers of reprieve are
> > >>more limited, but let's not sully the heavily biased
> > >>with facts.
> > >>
> > >>JoeGuys rant was egregiously ill-formatted, and way too
> > >>long. William Graham's was mercifully short (its only
> > >>strong point), but he used more than his allotted allowance
> > >>of periods, insisting on the bizarre technique of ending
> > >>every sentence with as many "dots" as possible.
> > >>
> > >>Round one: JoeGuy wins.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Fortunately, the final judgement of who wins and who loses is not in
> your
> > > hands. It is in the hands of the American people,
> >
> > Or maybe the Supreme Court will once again order
> > that the ballot counting be stopped, and the votes
> > not counted.
> >
> > > who will make their
> > > decision known this November. I suggest that we wait for the important
> > > decision to be made......
> >
> > Hey, that's fine. YOU were the one claiming to
> > see the future. But if you wanna clam (Ob RMT)
> > up and wait, great.
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
Scott Humphries
"Chris Kralles" <ckra...@rochester.rr.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > Depends...if he plays a Monette, I won't vote for him! :-)
>
> He's spending our money like some rich kid spending his dad's money on
> a Monette...completly unnecessary and 5 x to much!
Scott Humphries
statement
Yes the conservative (compared to Kerry)
"I voted for John Kerry, before I voted against him"
"Mark Bradley" <mtbr...@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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> Bob 'El Lippo' DeSavage <beagle...@comcast.ten> wrote in message
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> > On 12 May 2004 17:47:41 GMT, sharkp...@aol.com (Al Cirino) wrote:
> >
> > >Bush's Resume is true, he is a bullshit artist, who should get his ass
kicked
> > >by every american. Vote for Bush, if your a loser. He is worse than
Saddam
> > >Hussein.
> >
>
>
> Spoken like a good little al-Qaida terrorist!
>
>
> Mark
> http://jazztrpt.freeservers.com
Scott Humphries
what about fdr in ww2
oh wait KERRY Admitted to the atrocities in Vietnam himself.. ha
"Jeff Helgesen" <jazz...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> mtbr...@sbcglobal.net (Mark Bradley) wrote in message
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> >
> > Spoken like a good little al-Qaida terrorist!
>
Scott Humphries
companies. If Geico wanted to start a "per driver" liability coverage
(which they cant b/c of gov't regulation) then the competition would be the
capitialism. Which would in turn most companies would follow suit to have a
per driver liability coverage option just to keep from going out of
business.
THAT is capitalism
"Brendon Terry" <bjt...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Scott Humphries
Rights council. what a useless orginazition when we have to pander and arge
to socialst nations to bring democracy to iraq.
"leslie" <LES...@JRLVAX.HOUSTON.RR.COM> wrote in message
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William Graham
Sure.....But if I don't get the magazine, I don't get to read the article,
and I can't comment on it. If the poster wants me to read it, he/she can cut
it and paste it into his e-mail.....I'm not going to go on a hunt for
anything the New Yorker has to say........
William Graham
"Scott Humphries" <scot...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
Actually, it's too early to tell how many civilians Bush will be
> > responsible for killing, so let's give him some time.
>
Yes.....Time......He's going to need a lot of it in order to catch up to
Saddam Hussein...........
Tim Priddy
(in article <kCapc.50200$xw3.2984618@attbi_s04>):
> Yes.....Time......He's going to need a lot of it in order to catch up to
> Saddam Hussein...........
Well, I guess two wrongs DO make a right.
--
J. Timothy Priddy
Lead/Ride/Side--all styles
Arranger, Sight-Reader, Clinician
Central Michigan Region
Frank Bloise
>
> Sure.....But if I don't get the magazine, I don't get to read the article,
> and I can't comment on it. If the poster wants me to read it, he/she can
cut
> it and paste it into his e-mail.....I'm not going to go on a hunt for
> anything the New Yorker has to say........
>
ESCALATION
Issue of 2004-04-19 and 26
Posted 2004-04-12
Last week, in a speech at the Brookings Institution, in Washington, Edward
Kennedy said, "Iraq is George Bush's Vietnam." The last Kennedy brother-now
an aging lion, in his eighth decade of life and his fifth decade in the
Senate, a thunderer on a par with his Massachusetts predecessors Daniel
Webster and Charles Sumner-then outlined a blistering case that President
Bush and his colleagues in the Administration, in almost every area of
public policy, have invented or distorted facts to support a radically
conservative agenda and have undermined basic standards of candid debate.
"As a result, this President has now created the largest credibility gap
since Richard Nixon," Kennedy said. "He has broken the basic bond of trust
with the American people."
Analogies with the era of Vietnam and Watergate might have been easy to wave
away for those inclined to trust a Bush before a Kennedy. But the headlines
that followed in the next few days were impossible to dismiss: "up to 12
marines die in raid on their base as fierce fighting spreads to 6 iraqi
cities" (the Times); "under siege" (the News); "40 reported killed in
fallujah mosque" (Associated Press). As the grim news flowed in, Brigadier
General Mark Kimmitt, the deputy director for coalition operations, was
suddenly sounding eerily like General William Westmoreland: "We will pacify
Fallujah."
Quite a different historical analogy prevails for some Iraqis: the
simultaneous, even coördinated, uprising of the Shia and the Sunnis against
British forces in 1920, when the League of Nations established the Iraqi
state. After three months of fighting, the British prevailed-in the short
term. They preserved their imperial prerogatives until 1932 and didn't leave
until 1958. History is often propelled by violent minorities, and an enraged
Iraqi minority, including both Sunnis and Shia, now appears to view the
Americans in Iraq as the British of the nineteen-twenties-heavily armed but
on the losing side of history.
One year after the invasion of Iraq, polls suggest that a slight majority of
Iraqis still accept the premise that the United States has no long-term,
imperial designs on their country and are glad that Saddam Hussein is in a
holding cell somewhere, rather than in one of his palaces. In a poll
co-sponsored by ABC News, the BBC, NHK, in Japan, and ARD, in Germany, and
published a few weeks ago, forty-eight per cent of Iraqis said that the U.S.
was right to invade, while thirty-nine per cent said the opposite. Saddam's
record of colossal barbarity was a secret to them only in its details-the
precise number of dead and tortured, the location of mass graves--and a
future under his sons, Uday and Qusay, was a prospect that few would want to
imagine. And yet the sense of liberation, tentative and uneasy but real,
that many experienced when American troops entered Baghdad and, later,
arrested Saddam has increasingly given way beneath the dispiriting weight of
occupation, not merely among insurgents but among ordinary people.
To an extent, this is a familiar pattern. When Western representatives
arrived in Kosovo just after the bombing campaign ended terrible Serb
violence there, the Kosovar leadership did not betray much warmth toward the
visitors from nato or the United Nations. The dynamic of liberation is
rarely one of prolonged gratitude. In Iraq, the reasons for resentment are
more varied and more profound. A tyrant is gone, but much of Iraqi society
has been reduced, at least sporadically, to a Hobbesian state of chaos and
insecurity, subject to kidnappings, car-jackings, revenge killings, suicide
bombings, armed militias controlling various urban neighborhoods, the pop-po
p of gunfire in the distance, and a retreating police force. In the eyes of
many Iraqis, the American military presence is at once incapable of
maintaining the peace and too at sea to avoid bloody mistakes-mistakes that
are then shown over and over on Al Jazeera and other outlets in the region,
reinforcing the idea that the United States is an occupier no less brutal
than the French in Algeria. The Iraqis do not live at a policy conference in
Washington called "The Future of Iraqi Democracy." They live in the present
tense, in the midst of this chaos, and for them, lacking the precondition of
basic order, the rhetoric of a democratic future is hard to fathom.
The Bush Administration, one recalls with painful irony, came to office
disdaining the Clinton crowd as loose, improvisational, incompetent, and
without rigor or integrity. The slipperiness of the Bush Administration's
preamble to war is, at this point, scarcely debatable. In order to heighten
a sense of urgency, its representatives exaggerated the notion of imminent
threat by twisting information on weapons of mass destruction and by
encouraging a direct connection, in the public's mind, between Saddam and
September 11th. The Administration's diplomatic hauteur, its condescending
absolutism, left it with a "coalition of the willing," whose size only
underscored our relative isolation, and which is now in the process of
dissolution.
What we are witness to today--in Fallujah, in Najaf, in Kut, in Basra, in
Baghdad--is a consequence of the same insularity and arrogance. The alacrity
and skill with which we planned for war has not been matched in our planning
for peace. How many mistakes have led to this chaos? At Washington's
direction, Iraq's overseer, L. Paul Bremer, disbanded the Iraqi Army,
instantly creating a cadre of men who were idle, embittered, and armed.
Donald Rumsfeld, with his usual self-possession, dismissed all suggestions
that the American military might be dangerously overtaxed and overexposed.
The Administration set an arbitrary date of June 30th for the handover of
sovereignty, which now seems impossible to shift, lest it cause even more
violence. In the management of chaos there is little margin for error. When
the Marines fire on a mosque, it is hard to explain to Iraqis and the rest
of the Islamic world that the insurgents were using the mosque as cover from
which to fire on U.S. troops. Like it or not, the view is reinforced that
Iraq is an unambiguous narrative of the oppressor and the oppressed, the
occupier and the occupied. That, too, is a condition of life in Iraq today.
Does anyone-save, perhaps, a small core of conservative zealots-still
believe that there will be an easy solution to the crisis in Iraq? Perhaps
the most discouraging aspect of all this is that, at least until January 20,
2005, George W. Bush is in charge of Iraq's future and America's. Through
sheer lack of humility and competence, he has squandered the good will of
vast numbers of Iraqis and Americans and American allies, and it is
difficult to imagine him acquiring the skill and wisdom to regain it.
John Kerry has yet to present a clear set of ideas about this crisis. As a
candidate, he is a sterling biography in search of a coherent language. He
must find one. At a moment when Bush is on the defensive as never
before--with Iraq, the 9/11 commission, and the critiques of insiders like
Richard Clarke and Paul O'Neill--Kerry has seemed to recede. In many
respects, the fusillade of attack ads produced by Karl Rove and company are
patently unfair and intellectually dishonest, but Kerry has made it too easy
for the White House to make him seem vague on Iraq.
Kerry faces a real dilemma. Bumper-sticker clarity is not an option for him.
Compared with Bush's simplicities, Kerry's views have been complex. The
nuances and conditions of both his original support for authorizing force
and his later critique of how that authority was used suggest that he
recognizes that Iraq is an American responsibility, not just a Republican
one. It falls to Kerry to disprove the conservative zealots' favorite
canard: that subtlety of vision is inconsistent with strength and cogency of
action.
- David Remnick
William Graham
"Frank Bloise" <fwbl...@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:jd6dncIc16t...@comcast.com...
that the liberals haven't been saying for the last two years, and it is
exactly what I had come to expect from the New Yorker's editorial staff.
That's why I stopped my subscription. I do have to laugh at his referencing
Ted Kennedy though......What a great spokesman for the liberals point of
view! And comparing him to Daniel Webster and Charles Sumner would be
laughable too, if it weren't so sad........