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jazz...@my-deja.com

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Mar 29, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/29/00
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I'm a big fan of Warren Vache. He plays cornet and is in my opinon as
good or better than anyone going. His new CD on Nagel Heyer
called "What Is There To Say?" has the coolest picture of an old cornet
on the cover (the must go down as one of the best album covers of all
time to us trumpet/cornet players).

Question: What is that old cornet pictured? I know he probably
doesn't play this particular horn (I've heard he plays on old Yamaha
but I can't verify that). I'm not going to copy the lengty URL but you
can see the piture cover on amazon.com if you look up Warren Vache and
click to this record (click on the album cover to make it bigger).
I've since ordered this album, can't wait to hear it.

Mark
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David C. Stephens

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<jazz...@my-deja.com> wrote in message news:8bt0l5$plr$1...@nnrp1.deja.com...

> I'm a big fan of Warren Vache. He plays cornet and is in my opinon as
> good or better than anyone going. His new CD on Nagel Heyer
> called "What Is There To Say?" has the coolest picture of an old cornet
> on the cover (the must go down as one of the best album covers of all
> time to us trumpet/cornet players).

I too love Warren's cornet playing. I've got several of his albums and I've
heard him live several times. He's a really great swing style player. His
ballad playing is right up there close to Chet Baker, IMHO.


>
> Question: What is that old cornet pictured? I know he probably
> doesn't play this particular horn (I've heard he plays on old Yamaha
> but I can't verify that). I'm not going to copy the lengty URL but you
> can see the piture cover on amazon.com if you look up Warren Vache and
> click to this record (click on the album cover to make it bigger).
> I've since ordered this album, can't wait to hear it.

I see the album cover in JazzTimes and I can't identify the cornet.

Warren has been endorsing Smith-Watkins http://www.rsmi.u-net.com/cornet.htm
for a year or two. I'm curious to play one, but Rayburn's is the only dealer
in the US and I haven't been to Boston lately.

Ciao,

Dave

Richard Salvucci

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Mar 30, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/30/00
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He's a marvelous player. Haven't heard the new album. Have you heard "Live
at the Vineyards?"

On "Midtown Brass" (made 20 years ago, admittedly), Vache was playing a
Yamaha with a Callet mouyuthpiece. Callet says he gave Vache embouchre
lessons. Don't know...

He kills me.

Dick Salvucci

jazz...@my-deja.com

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Mar 31, 2000, 3:00:00 AM3/31/00
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"Richard Salvucci" <rsal...@email.msn.com> wrote:
> He's a marvelous player.
>

I just got Warren's new CD "What Is There To Say?" today and have been
playing it. I tell you... a lot of people may not give him the credit
he desearves because he plays in the "old" swing traditon-- much like
Ruby Braff, but if there's anybody better on the trumpet (or cornet), I
don't know who it is. Warren plays his butt off on this record, with
his working band, a quartet with guitar. Absolutely fabulous record--
I recommend it. The swing style he plays so well sounds refreshing,
not dated.

Oh-- the album liner notes don't say anything about what kind of old
cornet is pictured on the cover. I hate it when they do stuff like
that. How hard would it be to make a small blurb about what equipment
artists use, etc?

Dennis

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<jazz...@my-deja.com> wrote >

> Oh-- the album liner notes don't say anything about what kind of old
> cornet is pictured on the cover. I hate it when they do stuff like
> that. How hard would it be to make a small blurb about what equipment
> artists use, etc?

Kind of like a book on Typography I just bought that has a cool font on the cover,
and they don't say what it is. (you wish you could slap some sense into them).--
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Nick DeCarlis

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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jazz...@my-deja.com wrote:

>I'm a big fan of Warren Vache. He plays cornet and is in my opinon as
>good or better than anyone going.

Count me in too on Vache. I have all his recordings, but didn't know
about this new one, so I'm glad to find out about it. I've been a fan
of his since I first heard him around 1980. I hosted him here in
Gainesville, FL for a concert in 1985, and having heard him in person
twice, feel he's even better than on recordings.

>Question: What is that old cornet pictured? I know he probably
>doesn't play this particular horn (I've heard he plays on old Yamaha
>but I can't verify that). I'm not going to copy the lengty URL but you
>can see the piture cover on amazon.com if you look up Warren Vache and
>click to this record (click on the album cover to make it bigger).
>I've since ordered this album, can't wait to hear it.

As the owner of www.VintageCornets.com , I am a little embarrassed to
say I can't tell for sure what kind of cornet that is. It appears to
be a French make from the late 19th century, and it is in high pitch
(the main tuning slide is quite short). Therefore, I rather doubt
that he played that particular cornet on the CD.

When he performed here in '85, he was playing a Yamaha YCR-231S, which
is the student model. I remember asking him what had the factory done
to make it special for him, and he seemed perplexed. It was just an
ordinary YCR-231S, just like any beginning student would play. I
remember trying the valves and thinking that they were very ordinary.
Of course, you should have heard him play it!

Regards, Nick DeCarlis www.VintageCornets.com

Neville Young

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Apr 1, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/1/00
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"David C. Stephens" <dcs...@ibm.net> wrote:


>Warren has been endorsing Smith-Watkins http://www.rsmi.u-net.com/cornet.htm
>for a year or two. I'm curious to play one, but Rayburn's is the only dealer
>in the US and I haven't been to Boston lately.

In fact, I have a nasty feeling that Warren Vache possibly does not
currently endorse S-W - I think he might now be with Yamaha.

I'm not sure what alternatives exist for US players who want to try one.
It's probably worth emailing the company direct to check, justin case
someone round the corner from you already has one or something!

Neville


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Richard Salvucci

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Apr 2, 2000, 4:00:00 AM4/2/00
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You know, I think that's the horn on the cover of "Midtown Jazz."

He's something else. I saw him here in San Antonio when he played alongside
his brother Allan when Allan played with Jim Cullum. No disrepect intended
to Cullum, but I found it difficult to believe they both played the same
instrument. I happened to buy a Pee Wee Ervin CD a few months ago (he
studied with Ervin) and could immediately hear the influence, especially on
Vache's early playing. And listening to Harry James, well he's there too.

What a player.

BlastMaster

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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Kinda weird to hear someone so obviously steeped in 30s/40s
trumpet style playing some of the material he picks (Eternal
Triangle, for example)...as a bebop/post-bop player, it always
makes me squirm a little...but I must say I've been listening to
him for years. He's a great technician...(one of the only
players I've heard who could play a grepetto [sp?] as well as
Clark Terry)...

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Richard Salvucci

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Apr 3, 2000, 3:00:00 AM4/3/00
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On his first album, he did "Joy Spring" as a ballad. Even he admits that was
a mistake!

David C. Stephens

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What Pee Wee Ervin CD did you get? I'm having trouble finding anything other
than the solos he took with the Jacky Gleason Orchestra. I'd love to hear
him in some small group environments.

Dave

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