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William Huffman

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
are better than everyone else or am I missing something.
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William Huffman
whuf...@iquest.net
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Kyle R. Hofmann

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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In article <32E0F4...@iquest.net>, William Huffman wrote:
: Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
: are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

It's because we're better. :)

--
Kyle R. Hofmann <rhof...@crl.com>

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significant number of users want fixed." -- Bill Gates

Josh Chambers

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Jan 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/18/97
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William Huffman <whuf...@iquest.net> wrote:

>Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
>are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

>--
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>William Huffman
>whuf...@iquest.net
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Well, as long as you use the official trumpet player's handshake, you
can call yourself a trumpet player. You don't know the secret
handshake? Well here's how it goes.

Whenever greeting a fellow trumpet player, always extend your left
hand (since that is the strongest hand, you don't want to damage your
right hand), thumb and fingers in a relaxed, almost straight position.
Make a firm grasp with the other trumpet player and before saying your
name, say "Hello, I'm better than you are."

If you don't do this, no one will believe you are a true trumpet
player!

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Carl Dershem

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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Kyle R. Hofmann (rhof...@crl.com) wrote:

: In article <32E0F4...@iquest.net>, William Huffman wrote:
: : Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
: : are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

: It's because we're better. :)

Nah - (though we generally are) It's because a lot of self confidence is
necessary to do it right, do it convincingly, and get the reast of the
band to listen to you and follow along. Most of the (jazz) bands I've
played in, the rest of the players listen to the bass for time and
intonation and the lead trumpet for phrasing and mood. Setting that mood
takes chutzpa.

cd

BigBirdTpt

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
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I believe the ego is required to play effectively. The trumpets are
always heard, and you can't play right if you don't want to be heard.


Kevin Pfefferle
Westerville North H.S.
Trumpet
http://members.aol.com/BigBirdTpt/home.html

James F. Boehner, MD

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Jan 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/19/97
to Josh Chambers

Josh Chambers wrote:

>
> William Huffman <whuf...@iquest.net> wrote:
>
> >Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
> >are better than everyone else or am I missing something.
> >--
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >William Huffman
> >whuf...@iquest.net
> >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Well, as long as you use the official trumpet player's handshake, you
> can call yourself a trumpet player. You don't know the secret
> handshake? Well here's how it goes.
>
> Whenever greeting a fellow trumpet player, always extend your left
> hand (since that is the strongest hand, you don't want to damage your
> right hand), thumb and fingers in a relaxed, almost straight position.
> Make a firm grasp with the other trumpet player and before saying your
> name, say "Hello, I'm better than you are."
>
> If you don't do this, no one will believe you are a true trumpet
> player!

AND, WHAT is the trumpet player's best birth control?

HIS/HER PERSONALITY!!!!

Bye

Jim

Bob DeSavage

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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On 19 Jan 1997 21:31:41 GMT, bigbi...@aol.com (BigBirdTpt) wrote:

>I believe the ego is required to play effectively. The trumpets are

>always heard, and you can't play right if you don't want to be heard.
>
You hit the nail right on the head!

Bob

Happiness is to come home from work and see my beagle wag his tail
all...@tiac.net

DHoff56012

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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I think that ego (if it is out of control, is as often the case) gets in
the way of important musical considerations, such as perception, teamwork,
following instruction, and most of all, musicality. An egotistical
musician is generally a non-musical one. Ego must be kept in check for
the good of the whole. And in addition, it's awfully hard to learn if you
think you know it all.

David Hoffman

Rick Keller

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Jan 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/20/97
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>Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
>are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

Well, that's obvious! There is also a jealousy factor. Face it, there are two
kinds of people in the world--those who play trumpet and those who wish they
did!

--
Rick Keller
Buffalo, NY, USA
be...@net.bluemoon.net
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RWSzabo

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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Q: Why don't gorillas play trumpet?
A: Too sensative!

JoeBuck

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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William Huffman <whuf...@iquest.net> wrote:

>Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
>are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

I recently read somewhere a quote, attributed to an
acknowledged TOP PROFESSIONAL TRUMPETER, to the effect,

"The thing about the trumpetis, you never know
what the hell kind of sound is gonna come out
of it when ya blow into it."

Thus, I posit that it takes rather more than a "shrinking
violet" personality-type to even *attempt* to become proficient
on this instrument. :-)


James F. Boehner, MD

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
to Bob DeSavage, on...@groupz.net

Bob DeSavage wrote:
>
> On 19 Jan 1997 21:31:41 GMT, bigbi...@aol.com (BigBirdTpt) wrote:
>
> >I believe the ego is required to play effectively. The trumpets are
> >always heard, and you can't play right if you don't want to be heard.
> >
> You hit the nail right on the head!
>
> Bob
>
And my favorite expression is:

IF YOU'RE NOT THE LEAD DOG, THE VIEW NEVER CHANGES!

Cheers,
JIM

Rick Keller

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Jan 21, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/21/97
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On 21-Jan-97 01:46:28, JoeBuck said of Re: trumpet players' ego:
>William Huffman <whuf...@iquest.net> wrote:

> "The thing about the trumpetis, you never know
> what the hell kind of sound is gonna come out
> of it when ya blow into it."

*That's* a hell of a quote! More than a grain of truth to it as well!

Chip

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Jan 22, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/22/97
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In article <19970121032...@ladder01.news.aol.com>
rws...@aol.com (RWSzabo) writes:

> Q: Why don't gorillas play trumpet?
> A: Too sensative!

Obviously they're not sensitive to spelling...

Chip
chip...@iastate.edu

mkaye

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Jan 23, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/23/97
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On Sun, 19 Jan 1997, James F. Boehner, MD wrote:

> Josh Chambers wrote:
> >
> > William Huffman <whuf...@iquest.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Someone said that trumpet players have big egos. Is that because we
> > >are better than everyone else or am I missing something.

> > >--
> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > >William Huffman
> > >whuf...@iquest.net
> > >~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Naahh... that's not it. It may have something to to with having the
necessary juevos to count however many measures rest, and come in on the
screaming, sustained high-G that the woodwind player who wrote the chart
just HAD to put there. :-)

Trumpet players in general, and lead players especially, have to have
incredible levels of confidence in the fact that they're "right." After
all, the rest of the band is usually "down there" someplace below _ for a
lead trumpet there just isn't any real way to be especially discrete,
there's absolutely no place to hide: Its a case of "you either do it, or
you don't," and most of the time, if the lead trumpet makes a mistake, the
entire audience is instantaneously aware of it _ and in glorious living
color:

Trumpet tends to be a rather graceless instrument if you screw up.

Trumpeter's ego is a function of:

1. The constant demands for that kind of extroversion, and
2. Long experience at being *right* under that kind of pressure.

If a lead trumpet doesn't have roughly 100 percent belief in his own
precision, he's not a lead trumpet.

DHoff56012

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Jan 24, 1997, 3:00:00 AM1/24/97
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The best lead players that I know do not have big egos. To me a big ego
is an out of control ego, and leads to a lack of musical perception. A
lead player does not have to be right all of the time, and most aren't. A
good lead player will set the phrasing, and be aggressive about it. This
is their musical job. Not a function of ego at all to me.

My favorite lead player is Roger Ingram. When he joined a band that I was
playing in, he consulted me and another trumpet player who had been with
the band for a long time, if he had questions on phrasing or
interpretation. Then he laid it down, consistantly and powerfully every
night. And the things he changed were with taste and perception, not just
to be different. This created a beautifully musical situation, where we
all felt respected by each other, and part of a team. The player that
preceeded him in the band thought he was always right, and subsequently
never did get it right.

Forget the ego, just play the music.

David

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