Pat
"Michael Porter" <ra3...@email.sps.mot.com> wrote in message
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what you saw was a Bugle. Drum Corps bugles were 2 valved for a long
time.
Michael Porter wrote:
>
> I was in a pawn shop the other day, and came across a trumpet that
> had only two valves. It was built that way, not modified or broken.
> Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is that? In all my years of
> playing, I've never run across that yet. The guy behind the counter
> said it was described to him as a bugle, which of course it isn't.
> Does anyone have an answer, besides the Schmidt fanatic?
> --
> ---Michael Porter (of GAMBIT)...
--
Matt Carey
Well, I'll be darned. In all my years of playing (I'm 45), you'd think
I would have run across this at least *once*, especially since I did
the marching band bit for so long. I thought the very definition of
"bugle" started with "no valves", but I guess that was wrong.
Thanks for setting me straight.
> From: Michael Porter <ra3...@email.sps.mot.com>
> Organization: Motorola Semiconductor Products Sector
> Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.trumpet
> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 16:05:00 -0600
> Subject: Two-valve trumpet??!?
>
> I was in a pawn shop the other day, and came across a trumpet that
> had only two valves. It was built that way, not modified or broken.
> Forgive my ignorance, but what the heck is that? In all my years of
> playing, I've never run across that yet. The guy behind the counter
> said it was described to him as a bugle, which of course it isn't.
> Does anyone have an answer, besides the Schmidt fanatic?
Padraic.
plunkettfam (plunk...@email.msn.com) wrote:
: It's probably a keyed bugle...
: Pat
: "Michael Porter" <ra3...@email.sps.mot.com> wrote in message
: news:3A087C8C...@email.sps.mot.com...
: > I was in a pawn shop the other day, and came across a trumpet that
How much did they want for it? Was it silver or chrome finish? What
was the name on the bell (DEG, Getzen, Olds, Titleist).
Randy
Drum and Bugle Corps, my summer hobby.
Model Railroading, my winter hobby.
> Heya,
>
> what you saw was a Bugle. Drum Corps bugles were 2 valved for a long
> time.
I always thought, a bugle was a flügelhorn. Hm.
Can anyone enlighten me?
SeDi
This is not a 'bugle' in the musicological sense of the word. What is refered
to here, is a drum and bugle corps bugle, which has 'evolved' over time from
the US military G bugle. In the early '30's, a D crook was devised, which was
replaced by a piston valve, resulting in a horn in G/D. It was during this
time that bugles in different sizes were introduced(french horn and baritone).
In the early '60's a rotary valve was added, creating a bugle in G/D/F, also
the contrabass bugle was introduced. In the late '60's the 'plumbing' was
rearranged to G/F/F#, aproximating the first two valves on a standard brass
instrument. In the mid '70's the piston/rotory arrangement was replaced by two
pistons. In '88 a third valve was added, and last year, the whole thing came
full-circle when Bb marching instruments were approved (but no sousaphones or
trombones. Long, I know, but I hope this helps.
Pax, Bill Souder l_P
> Long, I know, but I hope this helps.
It does!
Thanks a lot for "ensmartening" me!
SeDi
One other interesting fact: the main reason for the unusual valve combination
(the G/D/F) back in the '60's was so the marching bugle would not be considered
a 'musucal instrument', and thus the arrangers of the music would not have to
make royalty payments to the original sources.
Pax, Bill Souder l_P
Scott Stephens
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Padraic.
Scott Stephens (scott-n...@fuse.net) wrote:
: When you only have 2 valves, how do you play notes like low C#, Eb and Ab?
: Scott Stephens
: >
You just don't play them. I suppose that's one advantage of the horn being in
G; the music was just arranged higher on the horn.
Pax, Bill Souder l_P