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bach vs getz --- first trumpet decision time

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Chubbs94

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Feb 26, 2002, 6:17:37 PM2/26/02
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hey. thanks for everyone's feedback on my conflict in jazz band. our band
director bought Coconut Champagn, and i got crafty and gave him 1st part. i
told him it was a maynard song. he liked that idea. but, the 4th trumpet part
is the solo part, which ive taken. so, i get a solo and everything is just a
break for me. trumepts get that rhythm stuff behind bari sax. so, he got what
he wants. hes a bit upset that he got tricked like that, but, its ok.

anyways, i have a new little problem. ive been lookin around for my first
trumpet for a while now. im borrowing someone's old crappy yamaha. its junk. a
guy came into school today and i talked to him about buying his 20-year old
Bach Strad 37. for being 20 years old, this horn is in PERFECT condition. he
took so much care over it over the last 20 years. my band director check it
inside and out and said it was flawless. a lot of the silver has come off the
left side of the valves, but, it can restore that or get a leather grip thing.
anyways, thats going for 650. at a local instrument repair shop, im good
friends with the two guys who own it. theyre runnin a deal on a Getz (not sure
on the spelling) 700s. i think thats what it was. doc severinson plays on em.
its brand new. 5, 10 year warrenty stuff. pretty cool. thats going for 750. i
dont know much about trumpets, but, i really really wanna get a good one that i
can use mostly for jazz. i dont plan on doing much, if any, concert stuff after
i graduate high school. so, cast your vote i guess. thanks guys

mar...@webtv.net

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Feb 26, 2002, 7:19:20 PM2/26/02
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I played a student Yamaha once-- I was amazed at how easily it played.
Felt like I could do most anything on it.

Play the horns and get back with us. How about a horn comparison
report?

Older Bach trumpets seem to be like '70 Chevelle Malibu Super Sports. (
my high school car in 74-75) Everybody wouldn't mind having one. Sorry
I sold mine for college books.

You will never loose money on a Bach. It's a classic. A few buddies
had them.

Did you read the post above yours? They are talking about the Getzens
vs. Kanstuls right now.

Tim Priddy

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Feb 26, 2002, 10:21:59 PM2/26/02
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in article 20020226181737...@mb-cv.aol.com, Chubbs94 at
chub...@aol.com wrote on 2/26/02 6:17 PM:

The condition of the outside is not the most important area to a
trumpet--it's the inside. I would not buy a 20 year old Bach (especially
for lead work) unless I tried to inspect the inside. Get a qualified repair
tech to inpsect it for corrosion. On a different note, I have been a lead
player since 10th grade (1975), and can recommend a few horns.

1. Yamaha Z horn
2. Conn Vintage 1
3. Bach Strad ML (or L) 72 bell with rounded tuning crook.
4. Flip Oakes Wild Thing Trumpet

Other people with dissimilar experiences than I would probably incude other
horns, but these are the ones I have had good luck with. Today, I probably
would not go with a Bach, because I have seen far to many problems with
quality control. Don't go with a intermediate quality horn--go with a "pro"
model. You'll be playing this horn for a long time--don't let your
investment falter in the short-term. (In other words--You get what you pay
for)

About the other dude you tricked. I would give him the opportunity to blow
a few lead parts, AND take a feature solo. Let him experience the joy of
having his lips fall off during a concert. ;-)

Regards,

J. Timothy Priddy

trum...@chartermi.net
Lead, Ride, Side--All styles--Educator--Arranger--Sight Reader
Central Michigan Region


Chubbs94

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Feb 26, 2002, 11:26:54 PM2/26/02
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haha. letting a part blow up in his face during a concert would definatly be
the end of that problem. we just dont have enough gigs to blow a song like
that. maybe next time we do a junior high or something ill let him take a crack
at Gonna Fly Now. haha!

ok, so, back to the horns. i think im going to call up the Bach seller tomorow
and ask some more questions. mostly price wise. im really serious when i say
that i cant afford a $1000+ horn. im the stereotypical poor musician. my
parents cant help me out too much at the time either. i would go with a 'pro'
horn, but, i simply cant dish that kind of money out. i think for now ill get
the bach, and maybe sometime during college ill save up some more and pick out
one of those cooler horns you mentioned. theres a guy at another high school
here that has that yamaha Z horn. its pretty cool. oh, and on the inside work,
thats probably the only thing we didnt check on today. ill ask him about that
tomorow. but, i did play on it. it sounded great. heh. it may have not even
sounded that good, but, compared to the junk im playing on now, its like apples
and oranges. ive yet to play on the getzen though. uuuhhhgg. this is a tough
choice for me. and ive only got a day or two to make the call on the bach
before someone else grabs it. ok, ill back to you guys on this one. thanks

Jason Jensen

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Feb 27, 2002, 11:58:26 AM2/27/02
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chub...@aol.com (Chubbs94) wrote in message news:<20020226232654...@mb-df.aol.com>...

Get the Bach. $650 is a pretty good price. My first trumpet was a
Getzen 700, and while it is a decent horn, I would take the Bach over
it anyday.

Jason

Chubbs94

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Feb 27, 2002, 7:53:15 PM2/27/02
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well, it looks like im going with the bach. oh wait, i cant, because the guy
sellin wants me to shell out the 650 in 2 days. so, thats off the list. time to
keep looking. that getzen will be on sale a few more months so, ill keep
looking. oh yeah, my band director is buying Give It One today and, while ive
already figured out the entire lead trumpet part on my own just by listening to
recordings, im gonna give the lead part to our cocky friend and let him take a
crack at it. everyone in my band knows how it goes except him. theyre gonna
expect the lead to be flying out the door when we play it tomorow, and hes not
going to, and, well, ill just have to see what happens. he barked at me for
using too much pressure. silly silly.. i cant help it if i start to use a
little more pressure than expected on high Cs and Ds. heh

Michael

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Feb 27, 2002, 10:04:27 PM2/27/02
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Having said what you have here, do you have any experience with Benge horns? I
have a Benge I got new in '73, model 5, ML bore. (10th grade in 1976) Its still in
great condition, but have never compared it to the other makes. For a lead jazz
position, what are other equivalent horns?? Just curious.

thanks

Michael H.

Tim Priddy

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Feb 28, 2002, 9:41:51 AM2/28/02
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in article 3C7D9E3B...@charter.net, Michael at micha...@charter.net
wrote on 2/27/02 10:04 PM:

I will email you off-NG.

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