Monette on CBS Sunday AM, and also how do you pronouce Monette?

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Bach37

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Oct 13, 2001, 3:27:45 PM10/13/01
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www.monette.net says a feature on CBS Sunday AM tomorrow (10.14.01) will be
of Monette trumpets.
And, I got in a little argument with a euph. friend of mine yesterday:
is it correctly pronounced "Moan-Ay" or "Moan-et"? Or "Mon-et"? Someone
help me out here. Hate to be proven wrong by a euph. player. haha! I could
swear it's "Moan-ay." Thanks.

-Scott


Frank Bloise

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Oct 13, 2001, 6:38:31 PM10/13/01
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The proper French pronunciation is "Moan-et"


Brendon Terry

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Oct 13, 2001, 6:40:31 PM10/13/01
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It is pronounced MOAN-ETTE...how hard can this be?!?

It's like kitchen-ette, Corv-ette, servi-ette, etc.

Monet (like the artist...) would be pronounced MOAN-AY. -ET is -AY in
French. -ETTE, you pronounce the T's. How many T's do people need befor
they're noticed? Sheesh!! :P

This is one of my biggest pet peeves....right up there with people who say
InteracT instead of InteraC.

Brendon


David Truland

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Oct 13, 2001, 7:28:00 PM10/13/01
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On Sat, 13 Oct 2001 18:40:31 -0400, "Brendon Terry"
<bte...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>
>> www.monette.net says a feature on CBS Sunday AM tomorrow (10.14.01) will
>be
>> of Monette trumpets.
>> And, I got in a little argument with a euph. friend of mine yesterday:
>> is it correctly pronounced "Moan-Ay" or "Moan-et"? Or "Mon-et"? Someone
>> help me out here. Hate to be proven wrong by a euph. player. haha! I could
>> swear it's "Moan-ay." Thanks.
>>
>> -Scott
>
>It is pronounced MOAN-ETTE...how hard can this be?!?
>
>It's like kitchen-ette, Corv-ette, servi-ette, etc.
>
>Monet (like the artist...) would be pronounced MOAN-AY. -ET is -AY in
>French. -ETTE, you pronounce the T's. How many T's do people need befor
>they're noticed? Sheesh!! :P

I must say I've always thought of it as in the french pronunciation
but I played a gig with someone who knew someone who knew David and he
pronounced it "moanett". (he also had a Monette which he disguised in
a Yamaha student horn case)

But then again, I still can't spell shilkey from memory :)

SiegTrmpt

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Oct 13, 2001, 8:36:29 PM10/13/01
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>It is pronounced MOAN-ETTE...how hard can this be?!?
>
>It's like kitchen-ette, Corv-ette, servi-ette, etc.

>This is one of my biggest pet peeves.

Life's too short. Dave says "Mo net"

Jeff Kelleher

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Oct 13, 2001, 11:47:02 PM10/13/01
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Yeah. I used to think it was the fancy French proninciation, too. Luckily,
I was talking to someone who had been to the "MOANETTE" shop and said it
that way before I could pretend to be sophisticated.
In reality, it doesn't matter. My wife would shoot me if I bought one
instead of getting a new car with enough room for us, our two daughters,
and lugguge...but I digress.

Jeff K

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Dr. Trumpet

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Oct 14, 2001, 4:17:32 PM10/14/01
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In article <16jhst09c1kp861mq...@4ax.com>,
David Truland <tru...@localnet.com> wrote:

> I must say I've always thought of it as in the french pronunciation
> but I played a gig with someone who knew someone who knew David and he
> pronounced it "moanett". (he also had a Monette which he disguised in
> a Yamaha student horn case)
>
> But then again, I still can't spell shilkey from memory :)

Monette is swiss, not french. Monet is the painter. Doubled T and e on end
make ett, not 'eh'.

Frank Bloise

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Oct 14, 2001, 4:33:56 PM10/14/01
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"Dr. Trumpet" <dr_trpt-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Monette is swiss, not french. Monet is the painter. Doubled T and e on
> end make ett, not 'eh'.
>
Even though his ancestors may be Swiss, I believe the name is
of French origin. As you indicated, ette at the end of a French
word is pronounced "et" as in the names, Bernadette or Colette,
or the English word "pet."


Simon Richards

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:08:41 PM10/14/01
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Frank Bloise wrote:

> The proper French pronunciation is "Moan-et"

I doubt that very much.

I'm English, not French, but I would have thought that the French
pronunciation of Monette would be "mon-et". This is as opposed to the
pronunciation of Monet (as in the artist) which would be "mon-ay".

It seems to me that the substitution of the "mon" syllable with "moan" is
peculiar to North America.

That said, I guess the correct way to pronounce Monette as in the trumpet
maker would be however Dave Monette himself pronounces it, and as he is (I
believe) American, perhaps "moan-et" is correct after all.


Frank Bloise

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:01:56 PM10/14/01
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"Simon Richards" <s.ric...@physics.org> wrote in message
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> Frank Bloise wrote:
>
> > The proper French pronunciation is "Moan-et"
>
> I doubt that very much.
>
> I'm English, not French, but I would have thought that the French
> pronunciation of Monette would be "mon-et". This is as opposed to the
> pronunciation of Monet (as in the artist) which would be "mon-ay".
>
> It seems to me that the substitution of the "mon" syllable with "moan" is
> peculiar to North America.
>
Now that I think it about, I believe you are correct.


Frank Bloise

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:12:51 PM10/14/01
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"Simon Richards" <s.ric...@physics.org> wrote in message
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> Frank Bloise wrote:
>
> > The proper French pronunciation is "Moan-et"
>
> I doubt that very much.
>
> I'm English, not French, but I would have thought that the French
> pronunciation of Monette would be "mon-et". This is as opposed to the
> pronunciation of Monet (as in the artist) which would be "mon-ay".
>
Is there not a difference in the pronunciation of Manet and Monet?


William Graham

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:13:08 PM10/14/01
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One of the worst examples of mispronunciation I know of is
by some of the people who live in Del Norte county in
Northern California. Del Norte means "of the North" in
Spanish, and the Norte is pronounced like nor-tay, or to
rhyme with "more pay". Many of the people (including the TV
news people) who live in that county pronounce it to rhyme
with "snort" or "court". Spanish is such a beautiful
language. I hate to see it mispronounced this way.

How do you pronounce Bloise, Frank. Is it bloiy-zay to rhyme
with "say", or bloice, as it rhymes with Royce (as in Rolls
Royce)?

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Frank Bloise

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Oct 14, 2001, 6:36:37 PM10/14/01
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"William Graham" <we...@home.com> wrote:
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> How do you pronounce Bloise, Frank. Is it bloiy-zay to rhyme
> with "say", or bloice, as it rhymes with Royce (as in Rolls
> Royce)?
>
I pronounce it in the anglicized way rhyming with Royce,
in French it is pronounced to sound like 'blwahz' with no 'ay'
sound on the end.


Simon Richards

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Oct 14, 2001, 7:44:57 PM10/14/01
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Frank Bloise wrote:

> Is there not a difference in the pronunciation of Manet and Monet?

"man-ay" and "mon-ay" I believe. But what do I know?


SiegTrmpt

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Oct 14, 2001, 7:14:49 PM10/14/01
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>"man-ay" and "mon-ay" I believe. But what do I know?
>
>

Monette's cost a lot of Monet.

Ed Grant

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Oct 14, 2001, 7:20:15 PM10/14/01
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Which is no good when you're baroque.

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Brendon Terry

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Oct 14, 2001, 7:45:26 PM10/14/01
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"Simon Richards" <s.ric...@physics.org> wrote in message
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> Frank Bloise wrote:
>
> > The proper French pronunciation is "Moan-et"
>
> I doubt that very much.
>
> I'm English, not French, but I would have thought that the French
> pronunciation of Monette would be "mon-et".

No, the vowel sound would more akin to an OH than an AW.

>This is as opposed to the
> pronunciation of Monet (as in the artist) which would be "mon-ay".

The French pronunciation of Monet is MOAN-AY' (or MOHN-AY'), but with
perhaps a shorter O vowel than North Americans might attribute to it.

> It seems to me that the substitution of the "mon" syllable with "moan" is
> peculiar to North America.

It was only used here to illustrate the vowel sound, which is roughly
correct.

Brendon

Dr. Trumpet

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Oct 14, 2001, 9:14:34 PM10/14/01
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In article <UEmy7.18336$7B1.1...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Frank Bloise" <fbl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

> "Dr. Trumpet" <dr_trpt-...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Monette is swiss, not french. Monet is the painter. Doubled T and e on
> > end make ett, not 'eh'.
> >
> Even though his ancestors may be Swiss, I believe the name is
> of French origin.

I merely report what David told me when I asked!

> As you indicated, ette at the end of a French
> word is pronounced "et" as in the names, Bernadette or Colette,
> or the English word "pet."
>

Oui!

The difference between Monet and Monette is substantial, so pronunciation must
be different. The thing is that Dave "Mo nay" rollos off the tongue so easily
for us lazy tongued Americans, the more difficult pronunciation is too much for
some. (Not an insult, and not always the case. For example, Versailles, which
in french is pronounced "ver-sigh", while in Indiana is called, "ver-sales".)

Interesting how we sometime butcher languages!

AL

Greg Evans

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Oct 14, 2001, 9:34:35 PM10/14/01
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I hate to go "off-topic" here and drag you guys away from your linguistic
inquiries, but...how was the show? My VCR messed up and I didn't get to see
any of it. Please tell me I *didn't* miss The TV Event Of The Year....


Frank Bloise

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Oct 14, 2001, 10:08:00 PM10/14/01
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I thought it was a little on the superficial side. There was an
interview
with David Monette that, just as it was getting interesting, was cut short.

Greg Evans

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Oct 14, 2001, 10:17:46 PM10/14/01
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Frank Bloise wrote:

> I thought it was a little on the superficial side. There was an
> interview with David Monette that, just as it was getting
> interesting, was cut short.

I was afraid that would happen...oh well. Thanks for the reply.

Greg Evans


William Graham

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Oct 14, 2001, 11:59:13 PM10/14/01
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Frank Bloise <fbl...@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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> I thought it was a little on the superficial side.
There was an
> interview
> with David Monette that, just as it was getting
interesting, was cut short.

TV is on the superficial side. My wife says it has the same
attention span as our goldfish....about 3 seconds.....


Greg Evans

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Oct 15, 2001, 7:14:10 AM10/15/01
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William Graham wrote:

> TV is on the superficial side. My wife says it has the same
> attention span as our goldfish....about 3 seconds.....

Are you still talking about *that*?
;-)


Brian Jones

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Oct 15, 2001, 10:35:30 AM10/15/01
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Gee whizz
this is an interesting thread fellas. I haven't had so much fun since that
nazi/commie pinko subversive thread(aka the Clinton speech one) last week.
Help, I think I'm going mad!!!!


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Dr. Trumpet

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Oct 15, 2001, 11:53:42 AM10/15/01
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In article <4yry7.724$cy.6...@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>,
"Frank Bloise" <fbl...@earthlink.net> wrote:

There is an interesting video from the early '90's on PBS that did an interview
with David and Wynton Marsalis, and several other makes of brass instruments
about the instruments they make. The video was called "Sounding Brass" if
memory serves, and was an interesting and a little more in depth discussion.
However, for a real in depth discussion, go to a Monette clinic sometime, or
schedule an appointment to talk trumpets with the man.

He is often criticized for his veracity and his point of view, but if you really
think about it, to do what he does, what Blackburn doesn, what others do, you
have to be absolutely convinced you are right.

AL

Greg Evans

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Oct 15, 2001, 12:31:02 PM10/15/01
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Dr. Trumpet wrote:

> There is an interesting video from the early '90's on PBS that did an
interview
> with David and Wynton Marsalis, and several other makes of brass
instruments
> about the instruments they make. The video was called "Sounding Brass" if
> memory serves, and was an interesting and a little more in depth
discussion.

Thanks, I'll see if I can track down a copy.

> However, for a real in depth discussion, go to a Monette clinic sometime,
or
> schedule an appointment to talk trumpets with the man.

That would be fun, but since his prices are out of my financial range, it's
all moot and not worth my going to that amount of bother. I'm a hobbyist
rather than a full-time player, and the most I've ever spent on a horn is
$550 (thank you, eBay!). I admit I'm interested, and I love the sound of
his horns (I've heard a couple CDs with Monettes being played, and attribute
at least *some* of the tone to the trumpet design), but unless someone
else's instruments produce comparable tonal results at about 10 - 20% of the
price, I'm outta luck!


mone...@gmail.com

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Jun 24, 2018, 5:29:32 PM6/24/18
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Ha I love that it’s actually someone’s pet peeve!

My last name is Monette and NO ONE can pronounce it in America. My sister in law’s name was Suzette Monette and still they get it wrong.
Typical convo
They: <some ridiculous iteration of my name>
Me: it’s Monette, moan-net, like cigarette, cassette, pirouette, corvette, Suzette, etc.
They: oh I thought it was French
Me: it is
They: oh then it’s Mo-nay.
Me: thanks - I’ve only had this name for 50 years now.

mone...@gmail.com

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Jun 24, 2018, 5:36:39 PM6/24/18
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And yes, technically it is a softer “o” like mohn-nay rather than the anglicized/Americanized Moan-nay, but I’ll forgive the first syllable in light of the hack job given the second syllable.
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