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trouble

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Jan 7, 2004, 9:20:40 PM1/7/04
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I read someone said something about a $20k Monette! Is that for real??
I only owned 3 trumpets at a combined cost of $150+$250+$400=$800,
which gave me a Bb and D/Eb. Admittedly the Bb has been trod on one
too many times now so I'm gonna buy a new (used) one soon.

I'm also slightly more flush than the last time I bought a trumpet
when I was 15 :) so I guess I'm going to spend at least the same again
this time. But $20k... that's gotta be some horn. I mean, if I can't
play the Arban studies end-to-end, transposed into E, using only 2
valves on that horn I'm gonna be disappointed, right? ;)

Actually, I guess it's not that much when compared to violins. What's
the most you can spend on a trumpet set up (Bb, D/Eb, 2 mpc). I reckon
$50k would get you anything you wanted, hand-made by Maurice Andre.

Catzz66

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Jan 8, 2004, 7:18:01 AM1/8/04
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Monette exhibits at events like the ITG from time to time, so if you keep your
eyes open, there might be opportunities to play it and some other high dollar
horns. I owned a C for a few years back in the 80s before all the new models
came out and it was very well made.

I have mixed emotions about selling it. This was long before eBay and other
internet markets, so I traded it with a dealer for a Yamaha 631 flugel and some
cash. I am sure the used Monette prices have tripled, had I held onto it, but
I love my Yamaha flugel though the cash is long gone. =]

Gordon Hudson

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:26:26 AM1/8/04
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"trouble" <the_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> But $20k... that's gotta be some horn.

You wouldn't be saying that if you played the violin ........


Gordon


Robert DeSavage

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:28:37 AM1/8/04
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Cheap violin...

David C. Stephens

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:29:58 AM1/8/04
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Yeah, but isn't that flugel so much more fun to play than that clunky old
Monette? ;-)

Dave

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Catzz66

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:49:06 AM1/8/04
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>Yeah, but isn't that flugel so much more fun to play than that clunky old
>Monette? ;-)

The C I had was very nice and had a sound that was clear and focused. I loved
playing it in weddings and solo stuff when it was just my sound. I did not
like it as well in a section, but it was probably just the model I had. From a
playing standpoint, you are right. I have gotten so much enjoyment out of the
flugel. Back to the original premise, though, we all probably play the best
horn we can afford, whatever that level is.

Hank L.

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Jan 8, 2004, 1:24:03 PM1/8/04
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If you look at those $20K Monette's, they are adorned with precious jewels
and such. I think they look hideous, but whatever, to each his own.
I have only owned 5 horns. 2 were old cornet's. My first trumpet was my
Holton Collegiate bought new in 1968 for $150. Then I had a nice silver
trumpet purchased at a flea market for $40, that for some lame ass reason I
loaned to a guy I just met and never saw it again. It was probably not worth
much but it played nice and I used it to keep in my car so I had something
to play when the mood struck me. Now I own a Getzen Eterna 700 that I
purchased new around 2000. I really like the horn but am considering an
upgrade to possibly a 900 classic or maybe a Schilke.
Hank


Dr. Trumpet

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Jan 8, 2004, 4:59:46 PM1/8/04
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In article <vvr82c...@corp.supernews.com>,
"Hank L." <prot...@excite.com> wrote:

> If you look at those $20K Monette's, they are adorned with precious jewels
> and such. I think they look hideous, but whatever, to each his own.

Now I like this guy. He states his opinion, doesn't make fun of those
with differing opinions, and below shares his ideas on what he likes.
This is a COOL note. Seriously......we need more exchanges of a
positive nature like this.....

Thanks!

AL


> I have only owned 5 horns. 2 were old cornet's. My first trumpet was my
> Holton Collegiate bought new in 1968 for $150. Then I had a nice silver
> trumpet purchased at a flea market for $40, that for some lame ass reason I
> loaned to a guy I just met and never saw it again. It was probably not worth
> much but it played nice and I used it to keep in my car so I had something
> to play when the mood struck me. Now I own a Getzen Eterna 700 that I
> purchased new around 2000. I really like the horn but am considering an
> upgrade to possibly a 900 classic or maybe a Schilke.
> Hank
>
>

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Hank L.

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Jan 8, 2004, 5:41:28 PM1/8/04
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Thanks for the nice words Doc.
Hank


trouble

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Jan 8, 2004, 6:16:57 PM1/8/04
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"Gordon Hudson" <gor...@usenet.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message news:<btk0bh$o1u$1$8302...@news.demon.co.uk>...

You're right, I'd be saying "Ooh do you like my hair", "So-and-so is
*such* a bitch", "I've got my Pilates class tonight", etc.

Spencer Hager

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Jan 8, 2004, 7:01:19 PM1/8/04
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Hank,

You really owe it to yourself to play a Schilke before you go out and buy
that Getzen 900 IMO. Nothing wrong with the 900 and you may end up liking it
better than the Schilke's because the 900 will play every-bit like the 700
just a little easier is the best way for me to say (I've played both horns
and that was my thought). The 900 will plays/feels like a really nice built
version of the 700 and that may be what you want.

From your opinion below concerning the Monette (you call it like you see
it), I don't think the Schilke mystique will skew your judgement. If you
value quality, the Schilke will blow you away - I'm sure and that is a
pretty objective statement. I'm not a Schilke zealot but reallu appreciate
what the company has to offer. All the Schilke's I've ever seen or played
were excellent fit and finish horns. If you don't buy the Schilke, it won't
be because of quality in my best estimation - simply beuatiful trumpets!
They play great also IMO, I like the X3 the best BUT that wouldn't be the
normal choice of a player. Since you are a MLBore player, you'd probably be
better off checking out some of the B-model horn combinations if they are
available to you. I really liked the B1 & (2) B5's that I have played. I
don't like the Schilke mouthpiece's and have tried VERY many. I never really
found the right rim feel but there quality is also exceptional in my
experience.

BTW: You may want to try the Yamaha 6310Z if the Schilke is up your alley
but you'd like to try something a little less expensive that plays similar
to the Schilke. Just a suggestion.


Spencer


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Hank L.

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Jan 8, 2004, 11:51:34 PM1/8/04
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Thanks for info Spencer. I don't have much experience with different
trumpets but I have been studying everything I can find about different
brands and models to see what might appeal to me.
One problem is there are no stores in my area that carry pro level horns.
My Eterna I purchased in San Jose Ca. which is about a 3 hour drive. And
actually it was the only new horn in the whole store. About the best I can
hope for when in most stores are some intermediate's. But I will check
around and hopefully find something I really like.
Hank

Ed Grant

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Jan 9, 2004, 7:21:23 PM1/9/04
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Well Hank..I don't know about some of the other makes...but I was in a
situation much like yours....no horns readily available for pre-purchase
trial. I had pretty much decided to purchase Schilke as I had been
convinced that their quality would be excellent "right out of the box" (I
was coming of a Bach Strad that I'd bought second hand and that
had...."quirky" intonation issues no matter what mouthpiece I tried on it).
Now, as it turned out, I got lucky and found a store no more than 5 hours
from me that was a Schilke dealer (albeit for their higher horns) but that
they had decided to "bring in" 4 different Schilke Bb models "on spec". I
got to drive up and test all four brand, spankin' new horns (I even got to
take the factory wrapping off them). B1, B5, X3 and S32. The fit and fnish
was excellent right across the board on all of 'em. I bought the B1 based
on both my own "ears" and chops plus the "ears" of the shop owner...someone
who plays trumpet in a symphony and used to play in a quintet with Jens
Lindeman.

So if you are in the position of having to buy "unseen, unplayed", I can say
that Schilke quality and consistency will be second to none. Whether the
model you buy is the one that's right for you is for YOU to decide...but all
of their horns are excellent.

If you think you might be happy with one, I recommend you phone or email the
Schilke factory and talk to one Phil Baughman (sales manager). If you then
want to get a "second opinion" on the right model selection, communicate
with Jim Donaldson of Schilke Loyalist fame. If the two of them point you
in the same direction, then that's a pretty darn good indicator. (It worked
for me!)

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Doc

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Jan 15, 2004, 12:44:04 PM1/15/04
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the_...@hotmail.com (trouble) wrote in message news:<5f9f0a23.04010...@posting.google.com>...

> What's
> the most you can spend on a trumpet set up (Bb, D/Eb, 2 mpc).

1.5 million for my Bundy. Send postal money order. Shipping is extra.

trouble

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Jan 15, 2004, 5:59:27 PM1/15/04
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docsa...@yahoo.com (Doc) wrote in message news:<f0c1bc20.04011...@posting.google.com>...

For that price, I'd expect shipping *and* the ship it came in!

Hank L.

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Jan 15, 2004, 6:54:35 PM1/15/04
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Does it include a mouthpiece?


THE Old Man

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Jan 16, 2004, 12:54:27 AM1/16/04
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I think we gots a deal, Doc. I will call my bank in the morning or
tonight. I don't know what their hours are in Nigeria but I'll have
them get the Nigerian Money Order ready. You didn't specify so I
assume that Kazakhstan Tenges will be OK.

I need to know if the trumpet is silver or lacquer or raw.


William Graham

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Jan 16, 2004, 2:07:58 AM1/16/04
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"THE Old Man" <ddal...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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No! - Wait! - I'll be able to buy it soon......Some guy named Umgubi in
Nigeria just e-mailed me the other day....He's looking for a partner to
convert 20 million dollars from Nigerian money into greenbacks, and he wants
me to go in with him.....All I have to do is give him all my bank numbers so
he can use my account for a few days.......


THE Old Man

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Jan 16, 2004, 2:18:51 AM1/16/04
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 07:07:58 GMT, "William Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
wrote:

Oh, No. It's too late now. MR. Mgumburbo was the Chief Financial
Officer there and he and I have already almost closed the deal. I'm
just waiting now for word from my brother-in-law. I'm sure he will
call me shortly as I used his bank information 'cause my Social
Security check goes into mine and I didn't want to cause any problems
with it.

I'm sure it will be OK by morning. But I really need to hear from Doc
about the finish the trumpet has as I am allergic to metal.

Doc

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Jan 16, 2004, 7:35:56 AM1/16/04
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THE Old Man <ddal...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<7t3f00p4rlq5oem7q...@4ax.com>...


> I'm sure it will be OK by morning. But I really need to hear from Doc
> about the finish the trumpet has as I am allergic to metal.

It's covered in rich Corinthian leather....

Ahh...I like what they've done to my horn....

THE Old Man

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Jan 16, 2004, 1:01:53 PM1/16/04
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OOPS! The fly in the ointment. My daughter is a member of P.E.T.A.
and would never speak to me again and would probably leave home with
her husband who doesn't work but loves rap music?. Hmmm... on the
other hand.


William Graham

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Jan 16, 2004, 4:35:45 PM1/16/04
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"THE Old Man" <ddal...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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Easy....Tell her its naugahide......


Beeper02

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Jan 16, 2004, 9:46:32 PM1/16/04
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Here's an e-mail I received after being top bidder on a piccolo that
didn't meet the reserve:

Dear member E-bay...
Excuse me that i`m connecting you,but i saw you are purchase to buy
Yamaha Piccolo Trumpet Model YTR-9820 .
The Trumpet will cames to you with all accesories.
If you like it or if you are ready to negociate it, let me know so
sell this Trumpet.
I am a very serious seller and have dealt with e-bay to sell in
safely
terms.
I will talk with ebay to protect our deal, and they will tell you who
I
am.
I respect eBay rules and i have to inform u that our trade it will be
100% SAFE and PROTECTED by eBay Inc.
I think you know that are a many sellers that sell outside eBay, but
I don`t.
I pay a extra taxes to eBay and they let me contact buyers with my
products.
My product that I sell on ebay will be delivered free because we have
a UPS account.
I have a store ''BELCOMPANY'' in Belgium and I have a good business
including stores in Spania,Italy,
US,BELGIA,SCOTLAND,PORTUGALIA,FRANCE,Canada.
This is a very good deal for any one interested in the Trumpet. So if
u want to spare some money this is your chance .
I looking forward your E-mail.
Best regards!
Thanks!


After reporting this to eBay, I replied to this guy that I was very
interested and needed info and picture of horn, etc., none of which of
course he could supply, saying the horn was in Indonesia! He said to
wire him the money via Western Union (NEVER do that, even if it seems
legit). I said fine, but he should send me $65 for the cost of the
wire transfer as a show of good faith. That was the last I heard from
him. I e-mailed him a week later using a Yahoo alias, said I was FBI
and that we had initiated proceedings to deport him the the USA for
internet fraud. Hope I made his day.


"William Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<i5MNb.65506$5V2.71895@attbi_s53>...

Tim Priddy

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Jan 16, 2004, 11:16:59 PM1/16/04
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:46:32 -0500, Beeper02 wrote
(in message <917e2aaf.04011...@posting.google.com>):

>I e-mailed him a week later using a Yahoo alias, said I was FBI and that we
had
>initiated proceedings to deport him the the USA for internet fraud. Hope I
made
> his day.

Hmmmm...interesting...hopefully we have no FBI informants in this newsgroup,
for Sir, you just did the same thing as your nemesis. Internet fraud.

Sorry if this doesn't "make your day"...


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J. Timothy Priddy

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Central Michigan Region

William Graham

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Jan 17, 2004, 2:55:38 AM1/17/04
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"Tim Priddy" <trum...@chartermi.net> wrote in message
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>
> On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 21:46:32 -0500, Beeper02 wrote
> (in message <917e2aaf.04011...@posting.google.com>):
>
> >I e-mailed him a week later using a Yahoo alias, said I was FBI and that
we
> had
> >initiated proceedings to deport him the the USA for internet fraud.
Hope I
> made
> > his day.
>
> Hmmmm...interesting...hopefully we have no FBI informants in this
newsgroup,
> for Sir, you just did the same thing as your nemesis. Internet fraud.
>
> Sorry if this doesn't "make your day"...
>
He doesn't have anything to worry about....I have sent at least 1/2 dozen
emails from these African countries to the FBI, and I don't even get a reply
or any acknowledgement that they have received anything....I'm not exactly
sure just what these government agencies do for us, but I sure know one
thing....They are very good at spending our tax dollars......I get at least
one of these bogus offers to make 30% of 20 million dollars every other
day.....Obviously, the FBI isn't interested.......


THE Old Man

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Jan 17, 2004, 3:17:31 AM1/17/04
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On Sat, 17 Jan 2004 07:55:38 GMT, "William Graham" <we...@comcast.net>
wrote:

>

I have had experience with the FBI in the past. They will suck you
dry for all the info you can give THEM but don't give anything back.
I had a loan customer 20 years ago who was originally from the Mid
East. When he skipped out and I began looking for him I found an odd
code number in the Credit Bureau file where some one had pulled a
credit report. The CB reluctantly told me it was the local FBI
office. I called them and told them about the customer skipping and
they told me they would trade any new info that came up. I would call
them from time to time but they wouldn't tell me the time of the day.
My assistant located the guy in PERU! Being the good guy I called the
FBI and gave them the info and asked what they planned to do. They
were gonna send the case on up to Jackson, MS and close their file as
all they were interested in was the guy was out of their area.

BUT attempting to pass oneself off as an agent is a bit scarey. They
really don't appreciate that and take it very seriously. Good luck.


William Graham

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Jan 17, 2004, 5:05:07 AM1/17/04
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"THE Old Man" <ddal...@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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If you give them any information at all, you can always pass yourself off as
a, "free lance agent". Much as a photographer can submit a picture to a
publisher once in a while and be a, "free lance photographer".....


Doc

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Jan 17, 2004, 9:12:18 AM1/17/04
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"William Graham" <we...@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<ZT5Ob.84155$xy6.144447@attbi_s02>...

> I get at least
> one of these bogus offers to make 30% of 20 million dollars every other
> day.....Obviously, the FBI isn't interested.......

From what I've read it's actually the US Secret Service who's in
charge of the "Nigerian Fraud" issue. I think there have actually been
a number of stings related to this but it's pretty involved, since
you're dealing with another nation, politics etc. Hard to believe any
idiots actually get taken on this, but apparently they do.

Check this out:

http://www.ustreas.gov/usss/financial_crimes.shtml#Nigerian

Brett JAZZ

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Jan 19, 2004, 2:44:56 AM1/19/04
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Hank,
I have an X3 love it. The other two horns i would suggest are Kanstul and
Stomvi. I have a Besson Meha that I just got back from Kanstul(it needed a
little work), that is such a great horn , especially since kanstul just
replaced the leadpipe and tuning slide, and replated it... looks brand new.

The stomvi is a just an incredible horn. It's very similar to the schilke in
fit and finish. I have a Heavyweight Stomvi with the 5" bell. I consider it a
poorman's(that would be me) monette. It has heavy caps top and bottom.

Just a few options for you.

brett

William Graham

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Jan 19, 2004, 4:11:40 PM1/19/04
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"Brett JAZZ" <bret...@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you can drive to San Jose, then another 45 minutes or so will get you to
South San Francisco. There, you will find Bronsteins Music, only a couple of
minutes West of Hwy 101. They have a huge selection of new horns...


William Graham

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Jan 19, 2004, 4:16:10 PM1/19/04
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"Brett JAZZ" <bret...@aol.com> wrote in message
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If you are coming from the East, check out Best Music in downtown
Oakland....They also have a nice selection of horns......


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