Cornet comparison Getzen Eterna 800S vs. Kanstul CCC930
Donald Nania
community groups and am now looking to purchase a cornet mostly for
playing with a Dixieland combo.
I would be interested in hearing evaluations and/or comparisons of the
Getzen Eterna model 800S and the Kanstul model CCC930.
I note that each of the above horns has received generally fovorable
reviews and each sell for approx. $1,000 from the online retailers.
Cornet mouthpiece recommendations are also appreciated. I have been
playinf a Schilke 14 with the bach trumpet. I'm considering the
Sparkx model 3 or model 4 or perhaps the Wick 3B.
Thanks for your input.
Don
Ed Grant
same question a few months ago and his reply was, essentially "anyone who
has tried both ended up buying the Kanstul". On the other hand, shortly
after asking that question I managed to snag a Getzen 800LB off of Ebay
(large bore). I used a Dennis Wick RW4 mouthpiece up until the day (two
days ago) that I dropped the horn off to have all the little dents removed
and some sloppy repair work (by previous owner) cleaned up. Two hours later
my brand spankin' new Sparx #4 mouthpiece showed up in the mail! I'll have
to "get back to you" but from the appearance, the transition between the
bore and the backbore is much smoother on the Sparx than on the Wick, the
rim is flatter and a bit wider. The cup looks very similar in terms of
depth and shape.
I am VERY happy with the Getzen but I observe that it is the large bore
model and that it was produced when Getzen was in their "hay day"...circa
1977. It plays beautifully, has superb tuning, "feels good" and
sounds.....tremendous? Very controllable (responsive at all dynamic levels)
and easy to "get around on". No bad intonation habits found
whatsoever.....as good as my Schilke trumpet in that regard. If the Kanstul
is as good, you can't go wrong with either one of them. HOWEVER....since
1977 a lot changed at Getzen so the newer horns may have been affected.
You'd be best to do a personal "side-by-side". Donovan works out of
Springfield Music and posts in here often.
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Ed Grant
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"Donald Nania" <don...@aol.com> wrote in message
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Dr. Trumpet
"Ed Grant" <meg...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
> Don, I hope you'll receive a reply from Donovan Bankhead. I asked him the
> same question a few months ago and his reply was, essentially "anyone who
> has tried both ended up buying the Kanstul".
Interesting that such may be the case now, but none other than Jim
Klages (former solo cornet with President's Own Band in DC) played a
Getzen Eterna large bore cornet. I know because he had three he
selected during a visit to the factory. He sold two off when he left
the gig. One now resides in my collection.
Jim now plays Monette cornets.
Charles Gorham (ret. Brass Dept. Chair at IU) was also known to favor
the Getzen.
If the current Kanstul is the choice, it must be excellent to be better
than the horn I have here.
Of course, neither compares to Tommy T.'s Wedgewood. He brought it for
me to play at his granddaughter's lesson two weeks ago. WOW! What a
cornet!
Al
Ed Grant
quality between the 1977 era and current; at least, looking at the Getzen
history on their website I'd be amazed if the horns of today were
"identical" to those of yesteryear! And I DO have an older Getzen large
bore now! *twinkle*. AND I love it. I suppose, one day, I'll tire of it
and start looking for something else...maybe.....(be shocking if I
didn't).....but until then I'm happy and can't wait for it to return from
it's cleanup to put the Sparx to the true test.
I think what sold me on the idea of going for the Getzen was that, in spite
of Donovan's comments (which are no doubt true TODAY), absolutely NOBODY
that I have ever read on the internet has ever had a negative thing to say
about the older Getzen Eternas. I remember way back about 4 years ago when
I started shopping for a cornet (and ended up buying a Yamaha 2330, that
several folks recommended the Eterna...but I couldn't find any used ones for
sale. If they're good enough for Jim Kalges and Phil Smith, then I guess
they're good enough for this hacker! :o) .
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Ed Grant
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"Dr. Trumpet" <dr_trpt-...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> In article <ZZzwa.1038$Hq4.4...@news1.telusplanet.net>,
> "Ed Grant" <meg...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
>
> Al
Dr. Trumpet
"Ed Grant" <meg...@telusplanet.net> wrote:
I think the cornets are still as good as always. The interesting thing
for me is that I have played some recently, and they are good. SO, and
I don't doubt Donovan or you, the Kanstul is better, I need to play one!
You should really try a Wedgewood......that is an interesting cornet....
AL
Gordon Hudson
And a bargain at the price (for those of us on the east side of the atlantic
Gordon