Google Groups no longer supports new Usenet posts or subscriptions. Historical content remains viewable.
Dismiss

Help...split lip...

51 views
Skip to first unread message

Todekaal

unread,
Nov 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/25/97
to

I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops with
anbesol. I guess I'm most worried about a possible infection or scaring
because it refuses to heal. I know my extreme pressure and lack of bloodflow
to the lip tissue is a factor but I can't afford to take a night off. Also I
believe it may be causing a feeling of total numbness around my embouchure that
persists for several hours after I play.

Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

Frank Sabella

unread,
Nov 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/25/97
to Todekaal

I'm not a doctor, but I would advise you to see one. You may have to
take some time off to let the wound heal.

Patrick Olguin

unread,
Nov 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/25/97
to

On Tue, 25 Nov 1997, Frank Sabella wrote:

> Todekaal wrote:
> >
> > I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
> > won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops with
> > anbesol.

[clip]


> > Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.
>
> I'm not a doctor, but I would advise you to see one. You may have to
> take some time off to let the wound heal.

Second that. Here's an interesting notion, if you're injured by your
playing, are you entitled to Worker's Comp? Certainly if you were out more
than 8 days, you could get disability. Either way, you've got a real
problem. The mouth is the fastest-healing part of the body, and if it's
not healing over the course of weeks.

Other mouth problems - I don't let my cheeks puff out, but I remember when
I was playing a lot in college (at least 3-4 hours a day), I'd get a lot
of dead skin on the insides of both cheeks. It didn't hurt or bleed, but
just sort of came off. About once a week or so, I'd get a dime size piece
of skin that I'd just sort of peel off. Weird.

Patrick, who is sure that Dwight was joking about lead trumpets. The
really good ones are made of protactinium.


--
Check out the continuing saga of "Galoots Invade Pasadena!!!"
http://www.concentric.net/~odeen/oldtools


Jennifer Marotta

unread,
Nov 25, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/25/97
to Todekaal

Hello,

My advice is, if you ever have any injury of your mouth, you must lay off
of your horn until you are completely healed. If you have a major cut on
your lip, you must let it heal as quickly as you can let it, and if you
continue to play on it, it will only make the healing process slower, and
can even cause long term damage. It would be much better to stop playing
for a few weeks and completely heal, then continue to play on it for
months, letting it very slowly get better and possibly causing more
damage. I recently got a bruised lip, and was advised from my teacher to
stop playing until it was gone, no matter what I had coming up. I was
glad I took the advice because it was gone in 3 days and even though I was
a little out of shape, it was much better in the long run. Good luck!

Jennifer Marotta
Eastman School of Music
jm0...@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

On 25 Nov 1997, Todekaal wrote:

> I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
> won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops with

> anbesol. I guess I'm most worried about a possible infection or scaring
> because it refuses to heal. I know my extreme pressure and lack of bloodflow
> to the lip tissue is a factor but I can't afford to take a night off. Also I
> believe it may be causing a feeling of total numbness around my embouchure that
> persists for several hours after I play.
>

J. Bell

unread,
Nov 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/26/97
to

--snip---

>Patrick, who is sure that Dwight was joking about lead trumpets. The
>really good ones are made of protactinium.

No way... don't you remember? The really good ones were supposedly
made out of brocolli... with some of the overpriced brands made of
mashed potatoes... and some companies were sucessful with ryecrisp.

J. Bell

J. Bell

unread,
Nov 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/26/97
to

I kept one of these splits in my lip during alot of marching season.
It would go away after laying off for a few days, but it never
bothered me much after a few days of playing with it at the beginning
of the season. If it bothers you, then lay off 'till it gets better.
If not, then what's the problem? No pain, no problem. I didn't
expereince any problems... but you might get ebola from it for all I
know. I think mine wasn't from TOO much pressure, but strictly from
the consistant necessary pressure that I used on lead. Just some more
personal experience.

J. Bell

Rex Denton

unread,
Nov 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/26/97
to

In <19971125194...@ladder01.news.aol.com> tode...@aol.com writes:

> I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
> won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops with
> anbesol. I guess I'm most worried about a possible infection or scaring
> because it refuses to heal. I know my extreme pressure and lack of bloodflow
> to the lip tissue is a factor but I can't afford to take a night off. Also I
> believe it may be causing a feeling of total numbness around my embouchure that
> persists for several hours after I play.
>
> Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

Stop playing. Period. Give up the Anbesol. Listen to Freddie Hubbard's latest.
Messed his lip up. Didn't let it heal. Kept playing on it anyway.
I used to be plagued with chapped lips and found zinc ointment really dried out
the ooziness. Of course, it looks rediculous, so I only did this before bed.
I suggest looking in the mirror in the morning, or you could scare someone!

Rex Denton

B-chan

unread,
Nov 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/26/97
to

> I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
> won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops with
> anbesol. I guess I'm most worried about a possible infection or scaring
> because it refuses to heal. I know my extreme pressure and lack of bloodflow
> to the lip tissue is a factor but I can't afford to take a night off. Also I
> believe it may be causing a feeling of total numbness around my embouchure that
> persists for several hours after I play.
>
> Any advice would be helpful. Thank you.

Well, like everyone else, I'd suggest seeing a doctor about it. Form my
personal experience I'd say lay off the trumpet for a few days. Maybe you
could just practice fingers or whatever and try to hear the tunes in your
head. (That's what my teacher tells me to do. It helps a little
anyways...) I remember I got a cut on my lip a week before my university
audition. I did the fingering thing but didn't play a note until the day
before. My lip was fine for the audition, I blew through it because I had
still been practicing everything else and I got into the university.

Now, if you're playing gigs everynight, my best advice is to take a
vacation. _Especially_ if you have to use ambesol to play.... I can't
imagine how that would work....


B-chan

__
( \
@> O>=--o----o----o----o
(__/

HeliX99

unread,
Nov 26, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/26/97
to

>It would be much better to stop playing
>for a few weeks

Well, not always... Two years ago, I got a cold sore the morning of a contest,
the cold sore was right in the middle of my upper lip. I might have laid out,
but having a 2 minute solo, that was out of the question. All I did was do a
really extensive warm up. The pain went away after a few minutes of warming up.
There may be some long-term damage; maybe. But we got straight ones and won the
open-division. I haven't noticed any problems from that experience, and have
had it happen once or twice since. Then again, a cold sore is alot different
from a bruise or a cut. Oh well, just thought you would like to know.

Jeremy
KHS Trumpets

Phillygill

unread,
Nov 29, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/29/97
to

>I've had a deep cut on my top lip over my right front tooth for weeks. It
>won't seem to heal. It doesn't affect my playing because I numb my chops
>with
>anbesol. I guess I'm most worried about a possible infection or scaring
>because it refuses to heal. I know my extreme pressure and lack of bloodflow
>to the lip tissue is a factor but I can't afford to take a night off. Also I
>believe it may be causing a feeling of total numbness around my embouchure
>that
>persists for several hours after I play.
>
>

Lay off both playing and the ambesol or you will have problems for a long
time.
Gil

Brent Anthony

unread,
Nov 30, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/30/97
to

I'll have to say, this is a very gray area. You feel the need to play
whatever the circumstances but are hurt. Simply put, you should stop
playing for a while and get your chops back to normal. I have discussed a
serious mouth injury that I had on this newsgroup before, but I will
emphasise this point. I played a lot before I got hurt and then I got
busted in the chops with a softball. I got my teeth almost knocked out
and got some seriously busted chops as a result. I needed to play but I
realized that I needed to heal. If you don't heal you'll never improve.
Your body is a precision instrument. If its not in top shape, then it
won't perform in top shape. Give your chops a rest; you'll be glad you
did in the long run.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
|Brent Anthony ... /| o000o / / -/ |
|anth...@email.unc.edu )---|||=== | ( ) --/--/-- / |
|Phil 4:13 (___) \| ) / --/--/-- / |
|GO HEELS!!! (@/ / / ----- |
---------------------------------------------------------------------


0 new messages