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Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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Feb 19, 2003, 11:44:58 PM2/19/03
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I'm curious and would like to hear from Olds fans what your favorite Olds
horn (trumpet or cornet) may be. Mine is a Recording trumpet I bought from
ebay. It has the most mellow and beautiful sound. I love the rose bell. My
Abassador cornet I bought 20 years ago for $50 is also pretty darn good. I
think Olds made wonderful instruments. I know ther are some of you out
there that think so too.


Happy Canuck

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:34:52 AM2/20/03
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Put me down for the Recording as well! Great sound, balance and that
engraving!

I now have 5 Olds horns. A Special, 2 Recordings and a Mendez trumpet and an
Opera cornet. I had sold my first Recording in '65 to buy the Opera cornet,
never should have done it!

Great horns, but I do love my Schilke too!

Bill

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Catzz66

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Feb 20, 2003, 7:39:50 AM2/20/03
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The Mendez is my fav. though there is not much difference at all quality wise
in the whole line. I have some other Olds horns, too, all bargain basement
eBay rescues.

Best bang for the buck, a $100 Ambassador trumpet.

Trent Austin

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Feb 20, 2003, 8:52:00 AM2/20/03
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Without a doubt it's my Olds Clark Terry model Flugelhorn. I've
looked for MANY years and finally found one.

I did have a Mendez trumpet that was really nice too.

Ciao,

Trent
www.trentaustin.com

Dr. Trumpet

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Feb 20, 2003, 10:11:50 AM2/20/03
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What about your Opera? :-))

Ralph Caccese, Jr.

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Feb 20, 2003, 5:51:39 PM2/20/03
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The Opera is a great horn as you know, but I must admit I perfer the
Recording. The Opera is probably a better symphonic horn. My specific Opera
is more of a conversation piece than an instrument unfortunately. I'm
trying to keep it clean and therefore don't play it much.

I know you're trying to rub it in Al. You'll see. In 50 years that will be
worth almost what I paid. : ))

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Dr. Trumpet

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Feb 20, 2003, 6:16:23 PM2/20/03
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In article <CO2dncsZ5M9...@comcast.com>,

"Ralph Caccese, Jr." <rcaccese...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> The Opera is a great horn as you know, but I must admit I perfer the
> Recording. The Opera is probably a better symphonic horn. My specific Opera
> is more of a conversation piece than an instrument unfortunately. I'm
> trying to keep it clean and therefore don't play it much.
>
> I know you're trying to rub it in Al. You'll see. In 50 years that will be
> worth almost what I paid. : ))
>


Just a little good natured ribbing. No harm intended! :-))

AL
>

Mike TERRY

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Feb 22, 2003, 2:31:13 AM2/22/03
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I've owned more Olds trumpets than I can shake a stick at. The only one
I never owned was the Opera.

My favorite was a Studio from the '50's.

The one which I was most disappointed with was a Recording which I
picked up for $75, spent $125 to have it restored and eventually sold it
for $400. This horn was unbelievably stuffy. I could kick myself for not
having the valves re-aligned by someone like Reeves. I'll bet I'd have
kept it.

Mike Terry

Keith Sladen

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Feb 22, 2003, 12:23:15 PM2/22/03
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MTE...@webtv.net (Mike TERRY) wrote in message news:<13099-3E...@storefull-2177.public.lawson.webtv.net>...

I have a Recording,Super and Ambassador and two Ambassador Cornets.

The Super is my favourite,though like just about everyone I have ever
heard on the subject,the Ambassadors are amazing for what they were
set out to be.

Keith Sladen

John Keady

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Feb 22, 2003, 8:39:04 PM2/22/03
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Hi Mike,

Have you ever played an Olds Studio Cornet? Know anything about them?
I found one for sale and wonder if it's a good horn also.

Is there a Quality Order? I guess Ambassador is at the bottom with
Mendez or the Opera at the top? How 'bout in between?

I have an Olds Mendez Trumpet that I love, but I'm looking for an
inexpensive cornet.

Thanks,

jk

Steve Ricks

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Feb 22, 2003, 10:23:16 PM2/22/03
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I started on an Olds Ambassador and later moved up to an Olds Special. Both
were fine horns. In H.S. when all of the other top players (excellent jazz
band) were getting Bachs, my parents got me an Olds Super (at the advice of
my trumpet instructor). At the time I always felt like the others had
better horns than me. Finally bought my own Bach in college. Now thirty
plus years later and no longer giving a rip about the "peer group" there is
no contest in my mind that the Super is a superior horn. It is easy to
play, has a nice focused sound, slots well, doesn't kill you with
resistance. I really like the brighter tone (as compared to Bachs).

Steve R.

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Catzz66

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:47:54 PM2/22/03
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>Have you ever played an Olds Studio Cornet? Know anything about them?
> I found one for sale and wonder if it's a good horn also.
>

I just have an old Ambassador cornet. It is kind of unusual looking, satin
silver, and plays pretty well. I don't play cornet very much, so I pretty much
quit looking after finding it.

>Is there a Quality Order? I guess Ambassador is at the bottom with
>Mendez or the Opera at the top? How 'bout in between?
>

I think this is fairly close. Student: Ambassador, Intermediate: Standard,
Special, Studio, Professional: Super, Recording, Mendez. I have not seen too
many cornets in each of these models. There really was a Mendez cornet, but it
looks like a trumpet.

>I have an Olds Mendez Trumpet that I love, but I'm looking for an
>inexpensive cornet.
>

Hard to beat the old Ambassador. They are cheap. The Special is nice and
usually just a little more than an Ambassador. Have not seen a Studio cornet,
but the trumpets are quite nice.

Catzz66

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Feb 22, 2003, 11:49:34 PM2/22/03
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> Now thirty
>plus years later and no longer giving a rip about the "peer group" there is
>no contest in my mind that the Super is a superior horn.

I think Olds horns basically sound pretty contemporary. The finish on them is
usually pretty tacky looking, but that doesn't bother me.

Mike TERRY

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Feb 23, 2003, 1:14:16 AM2/23/03
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John, I don't think you'd go wrong if the price is right. For the most
part, all the earlier Olds horns were great players.

If I'm not mistaken, all the earlier Olds were made in L.A., rather than
Fullerton.

I have played a few dogs which were made in the 70's.

But here again, something as simple as a good valve alignment can make a
huge difference on any horn.

Mike Terry

Dr. Trumpet

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Feb 23, 2003, 11:18:08 AM2/23/03
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> >Have you ever played an Olds Studio Cornet? Know anything about them?
> > I found one for sale and wonder if it's a good horn also.
> >

The Olds Studio Cornet is very brilliant in tone, due to the nickel bell
flare. It is a good sounding instrument, though.

>
> >Is there a Quality Order? I guess Ambassador is at the bottom with
> >Mendez or the Opera at the top? How 'bout in between?
> >
>
> I think this is fairly close. Student: Ambassador, Intermediate: Standard,
> Special, Studio, Professional: Super, Recording, Mendez. I have not seen too
> many cornets in each of these models. There really was a Mendez cornet, but
> it
> looks like a trumpet.

Opera was also a pro line horn, as was the Ultra-Sonic (the really
narrow bore horn designed for extremely high playing)

>
> >I have an Olds Mendez Trumpet that I love, but I'm looking for an
> >inexpensive cornet.
> >
>
> Hard to beat the old Ambassador. They are cheap. The Special is nice and
> usually just a little more than an Ambassador. Have not seen a Studio
> cornet,
> but the trumpets are quite nice.

Almost all Olds horns were of good to excellent quality.

Gene Monteith

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Feb 24, 2003, 8:46:45 PM2/24/03
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When my father bought his 1939 Standard in the late '40s, it was not
considered an intermediate horn but a professional level trumpet. He
couldn't afford a Besson, and on the advice of his teacher bought the Olds.
It is one of the few made at the time that had both first and third valve
saddles. It is still in impeccable shape. At 75, he's started playing again
after a 30-year layoff. I can't wait to hear how he sounds.

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Catzz66

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Feb 24, 2003, 11:07:47 PM2/24/03
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>
>When my father bought his 1939 Standard in the late '40s, it was not
>considered an intermediate horn but a professional level trumpet. He
>couldn't afford a Besson, and on the advice of his teacher bought the Olds.
>It is one of the few made at the time that had both first and third valve
>saddles. It is still in impeccable shape. At 75, he's started playing again
>after a 30-year layoff. I can't wait to hear how he sounds.

You may be right. The Super had two hook/saddle mounts too.

bfla...@crosslink.net

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Feb 27, 2003, 10:57:03 PM2/27/03
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My favorite is the Olds Super (1947) - produced from the thirties through
the fifties. Original cost c. $250.00. You can see a photograph of it (and
me) and hear it (realaudio) at :

http://www.BFLATMUSIC.com/testimony.html

Please visit our website:

http://www.bflatmusic.com

And don't miss our "Tips for Trumpeters"
Much info of the nature you seek!


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