Barrington flugelhorn
Randy Replogle
Has anyone played one of these? It has good reviews.
Randy
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> http://www.wwbw.com/Barrington-BRG103F-Bb-Flugelhorn-i158448.music?cm...
>
> Has anyone played one of these? It has good reviews.
> Randy
complete crap, save your $$
Get a lawler, calicchio or kanstul 1525
Jeff
Yeah, it was probably manufactured in some guy's pastor's office as a
one-off.
Jeff
> http://www.wwbw.com/Barrington-BRG103F-Bb-Flugelhorn-i158448.music?cm...
>
> Randy
I haven't, but I'm skeptical. If you're looking for an entry-level
horn, you might check out the Jupiter line. Frankly, Randy, you're
close enough to WW&BW that you should just drive up for a half day and
try out horns if you're serious ... makes for a fun day (I've bought
two horns that way over the years).
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Don't do it Randy. I am afraid that Jeff is wrong this time. A cheap
flugelhorn is almost as worthless as a cheap piccolo trumpet. Buy
American (Or Taylor),and buy a pro level flugelhorn. Cheap flugelhorns
do not play in tune well, and they sound awful. There is just no way
to buy a great quality new cheap flugelhorn. Jupiter horns are sub
par. If budget is a concern, buy a good quality used Benge
5 ,Courtois ,Selmer Paris or even a used Eterna. The best thing for
you to do would be for you to save up for the Lawler or the Calicchio,
or perhaps the Kanstul 1525 or the Flip Oakes Wild Thing. These are
the flugelhorns to be looking at. If you save up and buy a flugelhorn
like one of these you will never regret it. Jeff is wrong, when it
come to American made flugelhorns, the smaller run horns, one runs,
like the Lawler and the Calicchio are some of the best. Randy if you
want help finding a good quality inexpensive used flugelhorn please
feel free to call me at the phone # on my contact page. I have already
helped over 20 others select good quality used flugelhorns, and I do
not have anyone dissatisfied yet.
MIKEY
Jeff
>
> Don't do it Randy. I am afraid that Jeff is wrong this time.
Oh, boy, here we go.
> Cheap flugelhorns
> do not play in tune well, and they sound awful.
A poor mechanic blames his tools.
> There is just no way
> to buy a great quality new cheap flugelhorn.
I said "entry level".
> Jupiter horns are sub par.
For their price point, they're pretty good, and a copy of the Yamaha
631.
> Jeff is wrong, when it
> come to American made flugelhorns, the smaller run horns, one runs,
> like the Lawler and the Calicchio are some of the best.
I never compared the Jupiter to the brands you mentioned. Idiot.
> Randy if you
> want help finding a good quality inexpensive used flugelhorn please
> feel free to call me at the phone # on my contact page.
Don't do it, Randy! He's probably got Caller ID and will put you in
his "circle of friend" and speed dial.
Randy Replogle
> Don't do it, Randy! He's probably got Caller ID and will put you in
> his "circle of friend" and speed dial.
:)
RR
Randy Replogle
I went up there just a couple of months ago (for the first time) with a
couple of the other community band geeks. It was before Christmas and I
didn't have any spending money but I'll definitely go back.
I'm skeptical of the horn too but it does have several five-star
reviews. WW&BW is supposed to get a shipment in March so maybe I'll go
then and try one for myself.
I don't *need* one so I wouldn't want to spend a lot...but, of course,
I'd like for it to play well. :)
Randy
Jeff
> I went up there just a couple of months ago (for the first time) with a
> couple of the other community band geeks. It was before Christmas and I
> didn't have any spending money but I'll definitely go back.
I haven't been in their new facility, my trips up there were in the
1980s...it's a fun day trip.
> I'm skeptical of the horn too but it does have several five-star
> reviews. WW&BW is supposed to get a shipment in March so maybe I'll go
> then and try one for myself.
My gut feeling is it's probably a horn that would frustrate you in the
long run.
> I don't *need* one so I wouldn't want to spend a lot...but, of course,
> I'd like for it to play well. :)
Jim Donaldson's page is (as always) a good source for information:
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Save up for something like the Lawler or the Calicchio , you will
never regret it.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
$850.00 new when you can buy a nice used (60's era)pro silver Courtois
flugelhorn , one like Maynard once played, for less than that? The
Jupiter is bad advice, it has bad tone, and bad intonation. Either buy
a top of the line pro flugelhorn like the ones I mentioned, or buy a
used Courtois, a much wiser investment than a new Jupiter. Make fun of
me all that you want Jeff, I am giving out better advice.
Jeff
Challenge accepted.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Well, Randy, what will it be, Jeff's advice for you to look at a new
piece of junk out of tune Jupiter with crappy tone for $850.00, or for
less than $850.00, a good used vintage Courtois flugelhorn, that Jim
Donaldson compared in quality to Jeff Helgesen's Conn Vintage One?
Ha ha, who is laughing now, ha ha , my advice is better than Jeff
Helgesen's, ha ha ha.
Make fun of me all that you want Jeffy, it does not change the fact
that I know that a vintage Courtois flugelhorn for under $800.00 will
sound better and play in tune better than that crappy Jupiter piece of
junk flugelhorn that you mentioned.
Or even better Randy, ha ha , just save up and buy you a Lawler, in
silver at $2,200.00 the Lawler is the best value going in a new
flugelhorn.
ha ha ha
MIKEY
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Jeff
>
> Well, Randy, what will it be, Jeff's advice for you to look at a new
> piece of junk out of tune Jupiter with crappy tone for $850.00, or for
> less than $850.00, a good used vintage Courtois flugelhorn, that Jim
> Donaldson compared in quality to Jeff Helgesen's Conn Vintage One?
I suggested that he day trip and try a number of horns. You're really
reaching, Michael...kinda pathetic.
> Ha ha, who is laughing now, ha ha ,
Everyone who's heard you play the flugelhorn?
> Make fun of me all that you want Jeffy,
Please don't use your pet names with me, it's creepy.
> it does not change the fact
> that I know that a vintage Courtois flugelhorn for under $800.00 will
> sound better and play in tune better than that crappy Jupiter piece of
> junk flugelhorn that you mentioned.
We've all heard you play, so I think we'll just factor that in when
weighing your advice on any topic.
Shall we revisit your vintage treatise on flugelhorn intonation?
mikey_...@yahoo.com
pro trumpet players have commented that they really dig my flugelhorn
sound. The flugelhorn is what I play the best. I really sound superb
on the flugelhorn these days with the Kanstul 1525 with the Curry 600
series 70fl. I am very pleased with my flugelhorn sound. Sure I would
rather have the Lawler or the Calicchio, but I have no reasons to
complain about the Kanstul 1525, it is one of the finest sounding
flugelhorns that there is, and the intonation is excellent.
Your flugelhorn sound has really improved some Jeff since you have
focused on smoothing out your choppy articulations. Keep up the good
work, and when it comes to the best bang for the buck on a flugelhorn,
kiddies trust MIKEY. Perhaps step up the the 600 series 70 fl, to make
your sound a little fatter, or better yet step up to the 6" bell Duda
Oklahoma Calicchio , a better choice for you than the V1.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
mikey_...@yahoo.com
>
> - Show quoted text -
Jeff
>
> Your flugelhorn sound has really improved some Jeff since you have
> focused on smoothing out your choppy articulations.
Yeah. Back in high school.
> a better choice for you than the V1.
This from the Johnny "Bowtie" Barstow of the flugelhorn...LOL.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
attack against me.
The issue is which flugelhorn is the best for the buck.
Just cut to the chase Jeff, if you could only have one flugelhorn, and
it is either the Courtois that I gave a link to or a new a new
Jupiter, which flugelhorn would you want__________________________
Jeff
>
> Just cut to the chase Jeff, if you could only have one flugelhorn, and
> it is either the Courtois that I gave a link to or a new a new
> Jupiter, which flugelhorn would you want__________________________
Dear "Bowtie":
It would depend on what I was looking for. If I was looking for a new
horn, I'd consider the Jupiter, because it's modeled after a hugely
popular Yamaha model, and I've heard good things about them. I also
factored in budget, which you seem to be dismissing.
Which is why I suggested Randy "might want to look at them". Which I
think is a good idea. Whether he agrees with you or me is
irrelevant. Look at the products. Decide for yourself.
You seem particularly petulant today.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Well there you have it folks, now all of you decide who knows more
about a flugelhorns sound and intonation, when given a chance to put
Randy in the direction od a vintage Courtois or a new Jupiter , Jeff
seems to be leading Randy twards the new Jupiter.
UGH!!!!
I did factor in budget. The almost new condition far superior Courtois
costs less than the piece of junk new Jupiter that you are trying to
lead Randy twards, this is a no brainer, Randy do not listen to Jeff,
the Jupiter with its crappy valves, crappy intonation and puny weak
sound quality is inferior to the Courtois in every way.
Why would Randy want to look at junk when he could own a flugelhorn
that Jim compares with your VI?
That Maynard played(brand)?
Jeff
>
> Well there you have it folks, now all of you decide who knows more
> about a flugelhorns sound and intonation, when given a chance to put
> Randy in the direction od a vintage Courtois or a new Jupiter , Jeff
> seems to be leading Randy twards the new Jupiter.
If he's looking for a new horn.
> I did factor in budget. The almost new condition far superior Courtois
> costs less than the piece of junk new Jupiter that you are trying to
> lead Randy twards,
I'm not trying to lead Randy towards anything. I told him he might
want to consider looking at that horn.
> this is a no brainer, Randy do not listen to Jeff,
> the Jupiter with its crappy valves, crappy intonation and puny weak
> sound quality is inferior to the Courtois in every way.
Randy and I know each other, I suspect he knows to whom to listen.
> Why would Randy want to look at junk when he could own a flugelhorn
> that Jim compares with your VI?
Jim compared the Jupter with the Yamaha on which it's based, too. Are
you calling the 631 junk?
You seem intent on picking a fight. Do you really want to do that? I
don't advise it.
TNKev
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Courtois-flugelhorn-Silverpl-mpc_W0QQitemZ120212711372QQihZ002QQcategoryZ64374QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
See that guy knows how to properly photograph an item Mikey,pay
attention to this next time you polish one of your turds.
>
> MIKEY
>
> www.myspace.com/thetrumpetofthelord
>
mikey_...@yahoo.com
631/731. The vintage Courtois flugelhorn is superior to the Yamaha.
I really think that Randy should get the Lawler or the Calicchio or
the FO WT, but if he can not afford any of those and can only spend
$800.00 , the used Courtois is the best way to go. If you and Randy
are really friends, encourage him to take my excellent advice.
MIKEY
timewa...@yahoo.com
I think he's the Fully Regionally Accredited "Doctor" Johnny "Bowtie"
Barstow of the Fully Regionally Accredited fluegelhorn.
"Heat expands, expanding the length of tubing causes a horn to go
FLAT.
That is why when I record, the studio must be at about 55 degrees.
Anytime that I play in a warm room you can bet that I will have a hard
time
keeping that flugelhorn from going FLAT."
Fully Regionally Accredited "Doctor" Johnny "Bowtie" Barstow of the
Fully Regionally Accredited fluegelhorn, from his dissertation for his
Fully Regionally Accredited Doctor of Fully Regionally Accredited
Philosophy in Fully Regionally Accredited Acoustics degree,
Pensyltucky Enstitoot a' Tick Nollergy, 2000.
--
Jeff
mikey_...@yahoo.com
"Heat expands, expanding the length of tubing causes a horn to go
FLAT.
That is why when I record, the studio must be at about 55 degrees.
Anytime that I play in a warm room you can bet that I will have a
hard
time
keeping that flugelhorn from going FLAT."
it was a bit already, get over it
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> And if he's interested in purchasing a new flugelhorn at said price?
If he must go new, and I think in his case new is unwise, the Blessing
B 154 Artist is a far better horn at about the same proce:
http://www.wwbw.com/Blessing-B154-Artist-Series-Bb-Flugelhorn-i41595.music
Jeff
> I prefer the sound and playability of the Courtois over the Yamaha
> 631/731.
Great. I suppose I might, too.
> I really think that Randy should get the Lawler or the Calicchio or
> the FO WT,
Unfortunately, AFAIK, Randy is not bleeding off the government and his
wife for money to pay for expensive horns when he (in his words)
"really don't need" a flugelhorn.
If we all had other people paying for our horn porn, life might be
different.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
I paid into disability never thinking that I would ever need it.
I never planned on getting muscular dystrophy. I wish that I did not
have it. Life does not always work out like we planned.
Almost all of the horns that I use are used, and were not bought new.
Good condition used pro horns are the best option for people who are
on a limited budget.
MIKEY
Bob DeSavage
wrote:
I'm going to jump in on this Mikey since I've played flugels when most
trumpet players didn't even know what a flugelhorn was. Those who did,
considered it to be a 'bastard' (DO NOT ALTER THE PREVIOUS WORD)
instrument and those who I worked for told me to leave THAT THING at
home.
I bought a Jupiter rose bell lacquer finish flugel a couple of years
ago and it compares favorably to the ORIGINAL Olds flugelhorn
manufactured in the late 50s and early 60s. Even though I have the
more expensive Benge flugel, I prefer the Jupe. To this day, I kick
myself in the ass for selling my Olds outright to a pawnshop over 40
years ago. I was in the Navy at the time and needed the bread to
travel home on leave.
While the Jupe doesn't have all the fancy machining like it's higher
priced counterparts, the fact that it's a stripped down Chevrolet and
not a Mercedes doesn't change the fact that it's an ideal horn for my
purposes. A horn can't get by on looks alone. Being that I'm very
fussy about valves - especially bad are the ones on my Yami Z
trumpet - I wish that my other high end instruments had the valve
action the Jupe has. As far as intonation is concerned, a player
better use his / her ears to the fullest extent whether it's a Jupe or
a Cali since the player is at the mercy of any flugelhorn. Unless a
flugel is played like a flugel instead of playing it in the
stratosphere like a trumpet, it's going to sound like shit.
One other thing that the Jupiter has over the other horns that have
the 'standard' Amato spit valves, is that rather than the piston and
spring being held in the barrel with a 'C' clip, it has a threaded
screw-in retainer that doesn't pop out like 'C' clips sometime can.
So far so good with my Jupiter. Just because it's of a lower price
doesn't mean that it's junk. I've played some expensive instruments
that I would have loved to throw in the sea. As strange as this sounds
Mikey, but instrument repair technicians base much of their income
from repairing expensive horns that can fall apart just as the low end
horns can.
BOB
Jeff
Bob DeSavage
<jeff.h...@gmail.com> wrote:
>That's some hard-earned scratch you're throwing around.
Who me?????? Damn right I am spending what I worked hard for. You
might say that I'm spending my kids' inheritance where I'm going to
debunk the notion that I'm worth more dead than I am alive. Back then
when my kids were young and my teeth were falling out of my head, my
kids were going to the orthodontist,. Once when I was there to pay the
bill, the ortho guy told me about the new Bach trumpet he bought for
his 13 year old kid. I told him that it was my pleasure to buy his
kiddo a new horn. Only in America!
Jeff
>
> Who me??????
No, I was responding to Jabba the Nut.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in their shoes.
That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have
their shoes.
Colonel Jake
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<mikey_...@yahoo.com> a.k.a. Howdy/King of dog Schmidt
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: Jeff <jeff.h...@gmail.com>
: > Bob DeSavage <alle...@comcast.net>
: > > Who me??????
: > >
: >
: > No, I was responding to Jabba the Nut.
: >
:
: Before you criticize someone, you should walk a mile in
: their shoes. That way, when you criticize them, you're a
: mile away and you have their shoes.
:
Fuck that?,
"YoU StoOpid MoNKEY!!!,...., it'd cost about $800.00 to get
rid of that toe nail fungi, you're smearing around!!!..."
(dumbazz koOk)
Whats with you?,
"King?!?!?!,...., first you have an obsession with homosexuals,
now?!?!?!,...., you want straight folks to wear your shoes!!!.."
(what'da'fuck, is up wit'dat)
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Bob DeSavage
wrote:
Now-a-days my nose runs and my feet smell. Talk about being back
asswards.
Jeff
It was a bit wrong. Quite a bit.
Bob B
much faster than in cold temperatures. There is an article on this
phenomonen in an ITG journal published about 13 yrs ago.
Bob B
faster in high temperatures.
Jeff
> Silly me, brass instruments go SHARP in hot weather because sound travels
> faster in high temperatures.
Yes, this phenomenon is well-known and well documented. Someone
quoted Mikey's weird science from several years ago in which he
maintained (for an extended period) that the opposite was true. One
of his more embarassing moments and an early indicator that he doesn't
know what he is talking about most of the time.
The thread reaked of sweat and failure.
Colonel Jake
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Bob B <bobbo...@optusnet.com.au>
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: Jeff, brass instruments go flat in high temperatures
: because sound travels much faster than in cold temperatures.
: There is an article on this phenomonen in an ITG journal
: published about 13 yrs ago.
:
If that is so Bob?,
"Than Mikey/Howdy/King of dog Schmidt?!?!?!,....,
is totally BassAckward!!!..."
(just like Mikey, using the "N" word)
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Sine F. Nomine
It's pretty simple: f = c / lambda.
c is the speed of sound, and when the temperature
increases, c increases. When c increases, f increases.
5 degrees C (9 degrees F) gives a change of about
15 cents, based on an impromptu sharpie-on-cocktail-napkin
engineering analysis. Warmer is sharper, cooler is flatter.
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Only embarassing to all of you KooKs who fell for the bit, suckers , I
marched , I know what the horns really do.
MIKEY
Jeff
>
> Only embarassing to all of you KooKs who fell for the bit, suckers , I
> marched , I know what the horns really do.
Except for when you clearly refute the laws of physics. Dumbass.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
your just jealous Jeffy
Hey Jeff Helgesen,
I got your high note baby!
MIKEY
Jeff
> your just jealous
"you're" a dumbass.
> Jeffy
Eew, creepy. Stop with the shoe-tapping.
> I got your crappy sound baby!
No doubt.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
volume?
Don't feel bad Jeffy, nobody does.
Don't feel sad Jeffy, stop tapping your toes, range and volume is only
10 % of the game.
MIKEY
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> > marched , I know what the horns really do.
>
> Except for when you clearly refute the laws of physics.
Jeffy I know to lownoters like you my notes on a trumpet are so high
and so loud that to the uninformed like you I seem to refute the very
laws of physics. Because...
MIKEY Schmidt is THE loudest trumpet player in the world!
Mikey Schmidt plays notes on a trumpet higher than any other trumpet
player in the world baby!
Let go of your blankets, they can not help you, because I got all of
your high notes baby!
MIKEY
Jeff
> Jeffy, is someone sad that he does not have my trumpet range and
> volume?
Not doing you much good, is it?
> Don't feel sad Jeffy, stop tapping your toes, range and volume is only
> 10 % of the game.
Mikey "10%" Schmidt, ladies and gentlemen.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 25, 10:45 am, mikey_schm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > Jeffy, is someone sad that he does not have my trumpet range and
> > volume?
>
> Not doing you much good, is it?
Its doing me a lot of good actually Jeffy. Things are going great,
super great, never been better, the sky is the limit. Life is great up
here on the mountain in the doublewide.
I have more chances to play the trumpet then I am well enough to play.
I can't ask for more than that, I never like having to say no.
I am first and foremost a flugelhorn player, the trumpet is what I
double on.
MIKEY
Jeff
> to the uninformed like you I seem to refute the very
> laws of physics.
If insipidness were visible, yours would be seen from outer space.
the OTHER Mike
> On Jan 25, 12:11�pm, Jeff <jeff.helge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Jan 25, 10:45�am, mikey_schm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > Jeffy, is someone sad that he does not have my trumpet range and
> > > volume?
>
> > Not doing you much good, is it?
>
> Its doing me a lot of good actually Jeffy. Things are going great,
> super great, never been better, the sky is the limit. Life is great up
> here on the mountain in the doublewide.
> I have more chances to play the trumpet then I am well enough to play.
> I can't ask for more than that, I never like having to say no.
So, you are too sick to play at least 364 days a year ?
> I am first and foremost a flugelhorn player, the trumpet is what I
> double on.
Somehow I find that hard to believe
> MIKEY
>
> www.myspace.com/thetrumpetofthelord
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> On Jan 25, 11:55�am, mikey_schm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > On Jan 25, 12:11�pm, Jeff <jeff.helge...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Jan 25, 10:45�am, mikey_schm...@yahoo.com wrote:
>
> > > > Jeffy, is someone sad that he does not have my trumpet range and
> > > > volume?
>
> > > Not doing you much good, is it?
>
> > Its doing me a lot of good actually Jeffy. Things are going great,
> > super great, never been better, the sky is the limit. Life is great up
> > here on the mountain in the doublewide.
> > I have more chances to play the trumpet then I am well enough to play.
> > I can't ask for more than that, I never like having to say no.
>
> So, you are too sick to play at least 364 days a year ?
Yes
Jazzycat1
> Let go of your blankets, they can not help you, because I got all of
> your high notes baby!
>
> MIKEY
Mikey plays so high your dog will puke.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
Charlie howls and sings along with the horns.
Sine F. Nomine
news:1a67d554-b744-43b0...@e4g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
And Howdy will use it as moisturizer.
kitekrazy
@k39g2000hsf.googlegroups.com:
> Just like Jeff, always trying to turn everything into a personal
> attack against me.
>
> The issue is which flugelhorn is the best for the buck.
>
Not if you are going by the OP. He wanted to know if anyone has played
the mentioned instrument.
mikey_...@yahoo.com
> mikey_schm...@yahoo.com wrote in news:3ed8e0f2-9985-4bf7-b09c-7878791485d6
In my opinion it is not worth buying , which I already stated, that he
would get more bang for his buck with a better quality used
flugelhorn
Matthew 21:22