Roland XV-88 is incredible!
H R Puffinstuf
card is simply brilliant. It has by far the best piano sounds I've heard from a
synth. They're just so full and rich. The new drum board is awesome too, at
least as good as the DR-770's sounds. Plus the PA-4 action feels great, you get
all of the old Roland JV sounds plus lots of new sounds, 128 voice polyphony,
and the D-beam controller. If I had the means I'd definitely consider getting
one, or the 5080 which is gonna be amazing with up to 256 Megs of RAM. Just
thought I'd share my how impressed I am.
Daniel.
FA...@aol.com
..are you going to share what part of roland corporation u work for??
SynthDev
of stock Roland sounds. A lot of old D50 sounds and few new sounds... Looked
like a repackaging of standard Roland Tech.... the pianos sucked.
<FA...@aol.com> wrote in message
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H R Puffinstuf
>of stock Roland sounds. A lot of old D50 sounds and few new sounds... Looked
>like a repackaging of standard Roland Tech.... the pianos sucked.
It must not have had the new expansion board installed, cause if you think
those pianos suck you must not know what a piano sounds like. The stock JV
pianos do suck I agree there. And yes most of the sounds are not new, but there
are many that are. Plus the other new features, like increased polyphony,
d-beam, 88 keys. I've been a Roland fan and have been waitng for a hammer
action synth from them for a long time, so it'sexciting to me. I suppose you
like that piece of shit Kurzweil Micropiano?
Daniel.
H R Puffinstuf
>>card is simply brilliant. It has by far the best piano sounds I've heard
>from a
>>synth. They're just so full and rich. The new drum board is awesome too, at
>>least as good as the DR-770's sounds. Plus the PA-4 action feels great, you
>get
>>all of the old Roland JV sounds plus lots of new sounds, 128 voice
>polyphony,
>>and the D-beam controller. If I had the means I'd definitely consider
>getting
>>one, or the 5080 which is gonna be amazing with up to 256 Megs of RAM. Just
>>thought I'd share my how impressed I am.
>>
>>Daniel.
>
>..are you going to share what part of roland corporation u work for??
>
>
>
Ahhh, cynicism, how I love thee so.
Dan
jr
You'd think for $2500 they could make it feel like a nice piano instead
of a springy wooden synth .....
jr
mike schmidt
XV88. When I first tried out the XV88, I didn't realize it had the guts of
the XV3080.I'm trading it in because I seem to be able play much faster on
the Roland.
I wasn't raised as piano player, and the piano action of the Yamaha's are
just too stiff for me - though all the born and bred piano players at the
music studio obviously prefer the stiff action of the Yamaha's.
I do think the piano sounds of the expansion board are some of the best out
there. I'm curious what some of the naysayers do think is a good piano
sound?
H R Puffinstuf <son...@aol.commie> wrote in message
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SG
outs. :(
"jr" <Jame...@aol.com> wrote in message news:392EB0...@aol.com...
SynthDev
"H R Puffinstuf" <son...@aol.commie> wrote in message
H R Puffinstuf
Well then please tell me where to find better piano sounds and action, cause
the the XV88, in my opinion of course, really does have the best I've heard,
with maybe the exception of the Gigapiano which is something completely
different. I really would sincerely like to know. And don't say a real piano
please.
And what do you mean by a "hack job"?
Daniel.
SynthDev
telling you what to buy.
"H R Puffinstuf" <son...@aol.commie> wrote in message
Fred
I had no occasion to try one, but I can say :
- I dont't like at all PA4 keyboard (found on RD100, RD600 and A90)
to play piano sounds (to light key action). So I suppose
the problem is the same on XV88. Try a yamaha P80
or P200 and you will see the difference.
- I suppose the piano expansion card must have a good
sound, given that all 64 Mb are dedicated to one piano
sound. Such a thing have not been done since yet.
I have a P200 and plan to by a XV88 or XV3080
with the piano card because I find P200 piano sounds
quite medium. Then I'll use Yamaha keyboard and
Roland piano sound.
I'll perhaps do differently if other products are
released : Roland KF90, other Yamaha keyboard...
H R Puffinstuf a écrit :
Lee Sebel
son...@aol.commie (H R Puffinstuf) wrote:
> >Its a hack job. And the pianos sucked.
>
> Well then please tell me where to find better piano sounds and action, cause
> the the XV88, in my opinion of course, really does have the best I've heard,
> with maybe the exception of the Gigapiano which is something completely
> different. I really would sincerely like to know. And don't say a real piano
> please.
> And what do you mean by a "hack job"?
>
> Daniel.
The Kurz PC2 pianos are far superior to the XV, as are the pianos in
either a K2500 or 2600. The action on the XV is really nice...feels
better than the Fatar that Kurz uses, but I don't like weighted synth
actions even though I am a classically trained pianist. I prefer the
semi-weighted 76-key action used by Kurz.
I think the XV is way over-priced. A Yamaha S80 offers a much more
compelling instrument for significantly less $$$. The XV isn't even a
workstation for chrissake.
Tonefully yours...
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Øistein J. Eide
heard pianist complaint that the A-90 is heavier than a normal piano as well. I'm not
sure the RD series pianos have the exact same action as the A-90 either, although it
would make sense if they did. When I tried them side by side I found the A-90 to be
heavier and more solid.
john...@usa.net
>
> In article <20000526221040...@ng-ce1.aol.com>,
> son...@aol.commie (H R Puffinstuf) wrote:
>
> > >Its a hack job. And the pianos sucked.
> >
> > Well then please tell me where to find better piano sounds and action, cause
> > the the XV88, in my opinion of course, really does have the best I've heard,
> > with maybe the exception of the Gigapiano which is something completely
> > different. I really would sincerely like to know. And don't say a real piano
> > please.
> > And what do you mean by a "hack job"?
> >
> > Daniel.
>
> The Kurz PC2 pianos are far superior to the XV, as are the pianos in
> either a K2500 or 2600. The action on the XV is really nice...feels
> better than the Fatar that Kurz uses, but I don't like weighted synth
> actions even though I am a classically trained pianist. I prefer the
> semi-weighted 76-key action used by Kurz.
>
> I think the XV is way over-priced. A Yamaha S80 offers a much more
> compelling instrument for significantly less $$$. The XV isn't even a
> workstation for chrissake.
> Tonefully yours...
>
> Lee Sebel/Cool Music Gear You Can't Live Without/888-487-2166
Actually, ( and I'm NOT a Kurzweil rep - I just sold my K2500S and got a
new E-mu E6400, which kicks the K-series' butt, IMHO ), I just got the
new Kurzweil SP88 Digital Piano/Controller, and I have to say, it's
pretty darn great sounding, _especially_ for the money.... I paid $650
for a new one, and it's the best $650 I've spent ; 88-note, excellent
action, excellent pianos, and good MIDI control. The thin size and 40
lb. weight is great as well... Check it out if you can ; it's a great value.
-JP.
Sonic VI
you have not really given other than saying it sucks without giving any reasons
why, which leads me to believe you havn't even heard the XV88 and are just
being a jerk.
I'm not defying you to tell me where to find better sounds as if I already
believe there are none better. I'm looking for the "best" sounds I can find and
if you, or anyone, knows where to find better than the new Roland board then I
would sincerely like for you to tell me so that I may check out whatever it is,
and then draw my own conclusion.
>If you like the XV88 then you've found one. I am offering my opinion. Not
>telling you what to buy.
>"H R Puffinstuf" <son...@aol.commie> wrote in message
>news:20000526221040...@ng-ce1.aol.com...
SynthDev
you what the best keyboards are...make up your mind. I posted my strong
opinion of the 88 about 2 hours after playing one and you took it
personally. You're on your own, pal. Read Lee's post regarding Kurzweil. Or
buy a Steinway and stop insulting me.
"Sonic VI" <son...@aol.compost> wrote in message
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Sonic VI
have been merely asking you to let me know what you feel is better than the
XV88. I'm not saying there is nothing better or that anything you could
recommend is not better. I am not telling or asking you what to like. I have
not had the opportunity to demo every single keyboard on the planet. I simply
am asking for your opinion about where I might find sounds that are better. I
went back and read this entire thread and nowhere did I see you recommend
anything. All you said was it's a "hack job", which I understand as meaning if
it's not something 100% new then it's not worth mentioning, and the pianos
suck, which I really have to believe was because the new piano expansion board
wasn't installed. If you don't wanna tell me anything constructive then why
even reply at all? Why don't we just consider this closed and forget about it.
Fred
I'm surprised of your answer.
What I can assert is that :
1) PA4 is the keyboard for RD100, RD600, A90 and even FP9.
A heard it from a technician reparing keyboards all the days long.
Perhaps the electronic mesuring velocity is not the same ?
But I don't think so. I rember that once, I tried RD100
and FP9 side by side, and believed they have not the same
keyboard, and in fact they have the same. I realized it later.
The sound difference (much better on FP9) made me thing
it is not the same keyboard.
2) when receiving my P200, I was a little bit disapointed
aboud weak sounds in trebble, so I tried again a A90.
When I came back home after this trial, I found my P200
really execellent.
3) I find that on A90, you are quickly at highest
velocity levels.
4) 2 friends of mine, professional pianists find that
A90 is far from being tremendous and bought Yamaha
PFP-100 for one and PFP-150 for the other.
By the way, where are you from in Norge ?
I am from Toulouse (south of France) and went in
Kiruna (in Sweden) for 2 weeks in Febuary 2000
(to work in a scientific station at Esrange).
What a cold and nighty weather !
It took me about one month to un-tire from this
travel !
"Øistein J. Eide" a écrit :
Richard Whitehouse
>> - I suppose the piano expansion card must have a good
>> sound, given that all 64 Mb are dedicated to one piano
>> sound. Such a thing have not been done since yet.
I was hoping the same thing, but the results are disappointing. All
the samples may be from one piano, but It seems they sampled it at
several different velocity levels. All the programs use velocity
switching to switch between the different velocity levels. I've got
nothing against velocity switching in theory, but in practice it turns
out that you can easily hear the difference between the different
layers. This is un-natural, and distracting, and just plain sounds
bad. It's too bad that after all these years, this is the best that
Roland can come up with?
Richard
Lee Sebel
> Lee Sebel wrote:
> >
> > In article <20000526221040...@ng-ce1.aol.com>,
> > son...@aol.commie (H R Puffinstuf) wrote:
> >
> > > >Its a hack job. And the pianos sucked.
> > >
> > > Well then please tell me where to find better piano sounds and
action, cause
> > > the the XV88, in my opinion of course, really does have the best
I've heard,
> > > with maybe the exception of the Gigapiano which is something completely
> > > different. I really would sincerely like to know. And don't say a
real piano
> > > please.
> > > And what do you mean by a "hack job"?
> > >
> > > Daniel.
> >
> > The Kurz PC2 pianos are far superior to the XV, as are the pianos in
> > either a K2500 or 2600. The action on the XV is really nice...feels
> > better than the Fatar that Kurz uses, but I don't like weighted synth
> > actions even though I am a classically trained pianist. I prefer the
> > semi-weighted 76-key action used by Kurz.
> >
> > I think the XV is way over-priced. A Yamaha S80 offers a much more
> > compelling instrument for significantly less $$$. The XV isn't even a
> > workstation for chrissake.
> > Tonefully yours...
> >
> > Lee Sebel/Cool Music Gear You Can't Live Without/888-487-2166
>
> Actually, ( and I'm NOT a Kurzweil rep - I just sold my K2500S and got a
> new E-mu E6400, which kicks the K-series' butt, IMHO ), I just got the
> new Kurzweil SP88 Digital Piano/Controller, and I have to say, it's
> pretty darn great sounding, _especially_ for the money.... I paid $650
> for a new one, and it's the best $650 I've spent ; 88-note, excellent
> action, excellent pianos, and good MIDI control. The thin size and 40
> lb. weight is great as well... Check it out if you can ; it's a great value.
>
> -JP.
Hey JP...I'm not (any longer) a Kurz rep either! See my sig...
How ya doin', btw?
As for Emu kicking Kurz's butt, maybe as a sampler...no way as a synth.
Have you read about version 2 for K2600?
94 new algorithms designed to let you combine the processing power of 3
layers in a variety of ways. No hardware synth will come close to
touching this for years, maybe decades.
If the XV truly represents the best Roland can come up with in a "new"
synth engine then they are woefully behind the rest of the synth builders
out there.
And unless there is something in the E that they are not talking about
their engine is no big revolution either. The Kurz has been able to do
munging, albeit with a series of steps, for years.
Tonefully yours...
Lee Sebel/Cool Music Gear You Can't Live Without/888-487-2166
Lee Sebel
A piano action is only good for playing piano!
Idiomatically playing other instrument sounds is not effective on a piano
weighted keyboard.
I am classically trained from age 8, yet I play a semi-weighted action
(Kurz K2500) for gigging.
Why?
It is easier to accomodate my (no longer prolific) piano technique to a
semi-weighted key than it is to effective play B3, Clav and synth leads on
a weighted action.
I do have an 88-weighted keyboard (Rhodes MK80) that stays in my studio.
It is still my favorite weighted action, even after all these years. I
will admit to playing drums from it on occasion, but everything else
non-electric/acoustic piano gets played from either the Kurz or a
particular instrument's own keyboard.
In article <392FD76D...@hl.telia.no>, =?iso-8859-1?Q?=D8istein?= J.
Eide <he...@hl.telia.no> wrote:
> I'm not sure I follow. A-90 action is considered to be heavier than the
P200. I have
> heard pianist complaint that the A-90 is heavier than a normal piano as
well. I'm not
> sure the RD series pianos have the exact same action as the A-90 either,
although it
> would make sense if they did. When I tried them side by side I found the
A-90 to be
> heavier and more solid.
>
> Fred wrote:
>
> > I had no occasion to try one, but I can say :
> > - I dont't like at all PA4 keyboard (found on RD100, RD600 and A90)
> > to play piano sounds (to light key action). So I suppose
> > the problem is the same on XV88. Try a yamaha P80
> > or P200 and you will see the difference.
> > - I suppose the piano expansion card must have a good
> > sound, given that all 64 Mb are dedicated to one piano
> > sound. Such a thing have not been done since yet.
> >
> > I have a P200 and plan to by a XV88 or XV3080
> > with the piano card because I find P200 piano sounds
> > quite medium. Then I'll use Yamaha keyboard and
> > Roland piano sound.
> >
> > I'll perhaps do differently if other products are
> > released : Roland KF90, other Yamaha keyboard...
> >
> > H R Puffinstuf a écrit :
> >
> > > Hey, I just tried the new XV-88 today and I must say the new piano
expansion
> > > card is simply brilliant. It has by far the best piano sounds I've
heard from a
> > > synth. They're just so full and rich. The new drum board is awesome
too, at
> > > least as good as the DR-770's sounds. Plus the PA-4 action feels
great, you get
> > > all of the old Roland JV sounds plus lots of new sounds, 128 voice
polyphony,
> > > and the D-beam controller. If I had the means I'd definitely
consider getting
> > > one, or the 5080 which is gonna be amazing with up to 256 Megs of
RAM. Just
> > > thought I'd share my how impressed I am.
> > >
> > > Daniel.
Fred
I also heard bad opinions about Kurzweil Micropiano.
H R Puffinstuf a écrit :
> >hmmm.. I played one today and found it to be nothing new. There were a ton
Paul
>
>I also heard bad opinions about Kurzweil Micropiano.
uhmm... such as?
Friendly JM
And how about listening to the real thing instead of spreading
second hand opinions about it?
Which gives, translated into French :
Frederic, si tu souhaites te faire une idée sur le Kurzweil MP,
dis-le moi sur ce forum.
Nous pourrons peut-être faire connaissance.
J'ai un KMP, également un NanoPiano Alesis, ainsi qu'un
"vrai" piano Pleyel P118... de quoi parler et comparer!
Regards to all
Jean-Marc
----------
De : Paul <p...@earth.com>
Groupes de News : rec.music.makers.synth
Objet : Re: Roland XV-88 is incredible!
Date : mardi 30 mai 2000 09:31
uhmm... such as?
Fred <frederic....@laposte.net> a écrit dans l'article
<39318E9E...@laposte.net>...
I also heard bad opinions about Kurzweil Micropiano.
H R Puffinstuf a écrit :
Mark
SynthDev sounds like a petty whimp and you should probably not regard
his/her opinion anyway. SynthDev has giving you an opinion (although you
didn't ask for one) and said that your find was ordinary crap. EVERY post
from SynthDev has contained some "rude" or "bad attitude" angle to it. THEN
you ask for an honest opinion on better piano sounds and get the reply that
"you called me a jerk and now want my help" or something to that effect.
SynthDev had no problem spitting out an opinion without being asked for one
UNTIL you asked for one.
You are wasting your time talking to someone like that...just get the sounds
that you think sound great to you and go on your merry way. Chances are, you
are never going to have to perform next to SynthDev anyway...so who cares.
Take Care,
Mark
"H R Puffinstuf" <son...@aol.commie> wrote in message
Sonic VI
I don't particularly care, though there may be achance that I would agree with
him, or anybody. I think the XV-88 is the best I've heard in a keyboard synth,
and if I had somehow had the opportunity to try out every single option out
there and still thought the same, then I'd definitely go for the XV-88, or one
of the JXx080 modules and a good controller. I havn't been able to try out
everything so I could very well be overlooking, or have just have never seen or
heard of, something that would be worth the time to check out. This was all
I've been asking for, from anyone who cared to reply, just an opinion about
what they believe to be the best piano sounds. Apparently no one really did.
So, as I said before why don't we just forget it and "let that be an end to
it", as Ringo once said.
Daniel.
>you are wasting your time talking to someone like that...just get the sounds
SynthDev
Responses to that were personal insults to Synthdev. SynthDev not care.
SynthDev still feel same way about XV88. Roland Rehash. If I wanted a bunch
of D50 sounds I would buy a used one. And I thought the keyboard was poor.
SynthDev not petty whimp. SynthDev not sugarcoat anything. You not like. Too
bad.
As as being asked to give my recommendations I think I threw a couple of
names out there.. But it wouldn't have been worth my time to enagage in a
conversation about Piano sounds with someone who could not take my brash
review of the 88 any other way but personally.
That's just my stinkin' opinion. Last time I checked we were all still
entitled to one. Like a phone call when you get arrested.
I like the QS8 Pianos. But I usually create an Acoustice/Electric blend on
the QS.
I like the Kurzweil Pianos.
I even like the JD990 piano for some things. (wierd eh?)
I have a few great pianos for My EIIIxp.
I liked the pianos on the DG8 very much. And the action.
But I still wish I had a real grand to mike instead.
cheers
sd
"Mark" <totall...@gci.net> wrote in message
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> I have read all the posts concerning this original post about this XV-88.
> SynthDev sounds like a petty whimp and you should probably not regard
> his/her opinion anyway. SynthDev has giving you an opinion (although you
> didn't ask for one) and said that your find was ordinary crap. EVERY post
> from SynthDev has contained some "rude" or "bad attitude" angle to it.
THEN
> you ask for an honest opinion on better piano sounds and get the reply
that
> "you called me a jerk and now want my help" or something to that effect.
> SynthDev had no problem spitting out an opinion without being asked for
one
> UNTIL you asked for one.
> You are wasting your time talking to someone like that...just get the
sounds
> that you think sound great to you and go on your merry way. Chances are,
you
> are never going to have to perform next to SynthDev anyway...so who cares.
> Take Care,
> Mark
SynthDev
from playing the XV88 and ... well.. I am really tired of Roland repackaging
the same old stuff... didn't mean to insult your's or anyone's impression of
the XV... certainly nuthin personal there on my part...
"Sonic VI" <son...@aol.compost> wrote in message
> Well it's not like I was just gonna go buy whatever he said he likes the
most.
> I don't particularly care, though there may be achance that I would agree
with
> him, or anybody. I think the XV-88 is the best I've heard in a keyboard
synth,
> and if I had somehow had the opportunity to try out every single option
out
> there and still thought the same, then I'd definitely go for the XV-88, or
one
> of the JXx080 modules and a good controller. I havn't been able to try out
> everything so I could very well be overlooking, or have just have never
seen or
> heard of, something that would be worth the time to check out. This was
all
> I've been asking for, from anyone who cared to reply, just an opinion
about
> what they believe to be the best piano sounds. Apparently no one really
did.
> So, as I said before why don't we just forget it and "let that be an end
to
> it", as Ringo once said.
>
> Daniel.
Mark
Roland seems to put the same damned sounds on all their boards.
I find this to be quite boring. Besides, how may $1,800 synths with all the
same sounds does a guy need?
Anyway, I came off as a bit offensive myself and I apologize for that. It's
hard to guage and attitude when simply reading text and not being able to
hear vocal inflections or see facial expressions.
It's all about the music anyway.
Mark
"SynthDev" <synt...@nospam.com> wrote in message
news:VdgZ4.14$kJ3....@nntp3.onemain.com...
> > You are wasting your time talking to someone like that...just get the
> sounds
> > that you think sound great to you and go on your merry way. Chances are,
> you
> > are never going to have to perform next to SynthDev anyway...so who
cares.
> > Take Care,
> > Mark
SynthDev
found plenty of D50 sounds in there.. What's the point?news:sjbpt47...@corp.supernews.com...
Sonic VI
>found plenty of D50 sounds in there.. What's the point?
I guess maybe the same point as having an actual D550 or D50, or D anything.
Daniel
Daniel Bailey
90, 1080, 2080, XP80, XP60, and now an XP30. I recently bought a used Korg
Triton Pro. I also have a Kurzweil K2500RS and a Yamaha FS1R.
HOWEVER, I wasn't that impressed by the XV88. In some ways it's great that
Roland 'rehashes' their gear. I'm very familiar with the Roland JV/XP
architecture of patches, tones, performances. The XV88 has the exact same
arpeggiator as my XP30. The user interface is very similar and so I was able to
get around easily on the XV3080 and the XV88 I tested.
BUT, it wasn't great enough for me to replace my XP30 with an XV series
instrument. I had been waiting for several years for Roland to update/replace
the JV/XP series with something like the Korg Triton. I figured it would have a
touch screen to make it easy to work with, more user banks than 1, more effects
processor, etc.
When I saw what the XV series was, I decided to get a Korg Triton Pro (76 keys)
to supplement my XP30, rather than replace the XP30 with an XV88. (I have been
very happy with my Triton Pro - but it too has its quirks - why do I have to
record the arpeggiator with the on-board sequencer and then play it back to get
the arpeggiation sent out via MIDI - silly!- anyway... :-)
The sounds on the XV series sound good, but they really are a rehash of the
JV/XP stuff. A few new things, but not $1200 or so new. Sure they're a bit
better, but not that much better. ($1200 is what it would cost about for me to
get an XV3080 after I sold my XP30 for $800 or so and bought a keyboard
controller like the A33 to replace the XP30's keyboard.)
I listened to the new piano expansion and I didn't like it much at all. I went
to two different stores (Guitar Center and MARS) to make sure it wasn't
something in that particular stores unit.I preferred the sound of the piano in a
A90 that both stores had next to the XV88. It seemed that the XV88 expansion
piano board had reverb in the samples - (I turned off all the effects, and it
still sounded really washy with reverb). Also the midrange (c3-c5) sounds like a
banjo like every other synthetic piano out there. The bass and treble sounded
great, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why every synthetic piano I've
heard sounds very unnatural in the middle registers.
Also, why in the world did Roland make it so only th XV5080 has sample RAM. What
were they thinking!? All the models, should have had the ability to load samples
- Finally, why can't they use 64 MB SmartMedia cards to load samples from rather
than SIMMS that have to be loaded each time it's turned on.
So, for now, I'll keep my XP30 and make music :-)
FWIW...
Tim
weighted 88-key synth that was fairly easy to use and had a good variety of
sounds. After looking at about everything out there within my $2700 budget,
my choice ended up being between the XV-88 and the Yamaha S80. I picked the
Roland, even though it cost $700 more. BTW, don't pay the $2495 many
retailers are asking for the XV-88 -- you get it for several hundred dollars
less!
I played them side by side and think the XV-88 has a heavier key action than
the S80, but both keyboards have a great touch. Most of the XV-88's stereo
sounds are excellent, although I wasn't overly impressed with either the
stock XV-88 and S80 piano sounds. The XV-88 has lots more sounds than the
S80, and the XV-88's operating system seems easier to use.
Tim
"mike schmidt" <msch...@carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
news:y7CX4.8219$Ad6....@typhoon.southeast.rr.com...
> I'm taking back my Yamaha S80 and Roland XV3080 and trading it in for a
> XV88. When I first tried out the XV88, I didn't realize it had the guts of
> the XV3080.I'm trading it in because I seem to be able play much faster on
> the Roland.
>
> I wasn't raised as piano player, and the piano action of the Yamaha's are
> just too stiff for me - though all the born and bred piano players at the
> music studio obviously prefer the stiff action of the Yamaha's.
>
> I do think the piano sounds of the expansion board are some of the best
out
> there. I'm curious what some of the naysayers do think is a good piano
> sound?
Andre Lewis
synth modules incorporated into the XV88 - But what if you didn't have all
the other gear? Also, I would think that peoples taste in piano sounds
varied greatly (I prefer somber dark piano sounds with long decays) and it
would be harder for me to judge what a good sound was if I had not played on
a grand or baby grand piano. When it comes right down to it, a grand piano
physically sounds better (Your body can feel it) and sampling will simply
not do it justice. Perhaps the piano samples should be recorded in surround
sound 5:1 - with multiple velocity layers, I'd be first in line....