What keyboards do NIN smash on stage?!
Jason Blue Barile
Hey all,
Anyone know what keys NIN smashes on stage each night? I saw them
last night and managed to pick up a few keys from one of his synths
when a roadie was clearing the stage. Does Reznor just use the keys
for controllers and have his sound modules offstage or is he actually
trashing that much >good< equipment every night? It just breaks my
heart! :)
-Jason
Nervasystm
jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jason Blue Barile) writes:
I beleive they are DX7's
Michael Mooney
: Hey all,
: -Jason
When I saw them in Chicago (Sept. 3) he smashed a DX-7. Unfortunately
it appeared to be a prop. I saw it sitting backstage leaning against
a roadcase apparently not hooked up to anything and I thought it
might be a back up or something. But at the "proper cue" he grabbed
it from backstage and smashed it on a monitor. Really the only
phony moment in an otherwise amazing show. I just hope all the
other seemingly spontaneous action wasn't as rehearsed.
Later,
Mike M.
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J.J. Bruintjes
>From: jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jason Blue Barile)
>Subject: What keyboards do NIN smash on stage?!
>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 03:00:52 GMT
> -Jason
Anyone smashing otherwise perfectly good equipment should be punished.
Mr. Srinivas
Barile, jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu writes:
>Hey all,
> Anyone know what keys NIN smashes on stage each night? I saw them
>last night and managed to pick up a few keys from one of his synths
>when a roadie was clearing the stage. Does Reznor just use the keys
>for controllers and have his sound modules offstage or is he actually
>trashing that much >good< equipment every night? It just breaks my
>heart! :)
>
> -Jason
Believe it or not, they were smashing (or actually Trent) was smashing a
K2000. Both at the Molson Park concert (with Soundgarden) and at
Woodstock. Later...
Tom Ritchford
I saw him do that at the first Lollapalooza and thought,
"That was an old idea 20 years ago."
What do you think? Of course, he buys some cheap junk and
smashes it. Of course, it's just a controller. He's
probably smashing a CZ-101 or something. It's so tedious...
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Serge Solski u
A friend of mine (who doesn't know anything about synths) says
that at the show we went to, he smashed a Yamaha SY22. He was up close
(actually crushed at the front of the stage) and I was too far away to
see. He WAS playing it though -- You could hear it make noises as he
threw it about. I certainly must have been grinning from ear-to-ear --
sometimes I feel like doing that to my ASR-10, but I think I'd give
myself a hernia. Well, I have a Korg Mono-Poly in mint condition that's
light enought to throw >:-).
-Mark
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Brian Ross
: In article <1994Sep15.0...@news.vanderbilt.edu> Jason Blue
: Barile, jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu writes:
: > Anyone know what keys NIN smashes on stage each night? I saw them
: >last night and managed to pick up a few keys from one of his synths
: >when a roadie was clearing the stage. Does Reznor just use the keys
: >for controllers and have his sound modules offstage or is he actually
: >trashing that much >good< equipment every night? It just breaks my
: >heart! :)
: Believe it or not, they were smashing (or actually Trent) was smashing a
: K2000.
The bastard!
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Tim Scott
>
> I saw him do that at the first Lollapalooza and thought,
> "That was an old idea 20 years ago."
>
> What do you think? Of course, he buys some cheap junk and
> smashes it. Of course, it's just a controller. He's
> probably smashing a CZ-101 or something. It's so tedious...
>
listening to his recordings.
Well...my opinions.
Regards,
Tim Scott
ti...@megatek.com
Doug Johnson
: : Believe it or not, they were smashing (or actually Trent) was smashing a
: : K2000.
: The bastard!
That's such a kick in the teeth to those of us that can't even afford a
K2000. He oughta be shot, or better yet, smashed on stage :)
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J. Eric Townsend
tom> I saw him do that at the first Lollapalooza and thought, "That
tom> was an old idea 20 years ago."
Although, seeing Cypress Hill smash a TT1200 was pretty cool. The
fucking thing *bounced* after flying 20-30 feet through the air.
(Well, it shed a few bits at the first bounce, but it maintained
structurual integrety...)
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>In a previous article, s061...@let.rug.nl (J.J. Bruintjes) says:
>
>>In article <1994Sep15.0...@news.vanderbilt.edu> jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jason Blue Barile) writes:
>>>From: jbba...@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Jason Blue Barile)
>>>Subject: What keyboards do NIN smash on stage?!
>>>Date: Thu, 15 Sep 1994 03:00:52 GMT
>>
>through Cleveland, he mangled ASR10s. A FOAF says NIN carrys a truckload
>of them around with them. Config is supposedly 4 megs of RAM with samples
>loaded from floppy prior to the performance. Hell, he can afford
>it...plus he's obviuosly getting volume discounts =)
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Fuck that shit. Give me the keyboards. Old. Plus, some guy who was with
NIN came to the Oberlin Conservatory and dissed Kraftwerk. Kokwerk!!!!!
Wow, Trent.
Brian Ross
: : : Believe it or not, they were smashing (or actually Trent) was smashing a
: : : K2000.
: That's such a kick in the teeth to those of us that can't even afford a
: K2000. He oughta be shot, or better yet, smashed on stage :)
I bet he'd take a fit if someone touches his old Arp 2600.
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Jason Blue Barile
>>through Cleveland, he mangled ASR10s. A FOAF says NIN carrys a truckload
>>of them around with them. Config is supposedly 4 megs of RAM with samples
>>loaded from floppy prior to the performance. Hell, he can afford
>>it...plus he's obviuosly getting volume discounts =)
Well, I asked around and found out that the keys Reznor smashed when they
played at Vanderbilt were bought in town that afternoon at a local pawn
shop for around $500 each, by our Campus concert promoter. Never did
find out exactly what they were though - he had black tape covering all
the lettering on all of his keyboards, and we were too close and too far
below the stage to really get good looks.
I guess what really bugs me about seeing him smash things is that it's not
sincere. Sure, he probably meant something by it the first night he did
it, but now it's just for show. He's supposed to be this industrial poet
or something, but it's all for commercial purposes now.
He heard us begging for the keyboards though... and replied into the mikes,
"Get your own fucking keyboards!"
-Jason
Daryl Posnett
: played at Vanderbilt were bought in town that afternoon at a local pawn
: shop for around $500 each, by our Campus concert promoter. Never did
Now that bugs me. I could care less if he smashes new keyboards, all that
does is add to that manufacturers volume. IOW they will make more.
But by destroying used boards he is in his own small way driving up the
prices by making the supply smaller.
: He heard us begging for the keyboards though... and replied into the mikes,
: "Get your own fucking keyboards!"
Thanks for sharing that, I don't think his stuff is that great to begin
with, guess I don't need to buy any of his CD's
Daryl
Jc
>: He heard us begging for the keyboards though... and replied into the mikes,
>: "Get your own fucking keyboards!"
>Thanks for sharing that, I don't think his stuff is that great to begin
>with, guess I don't need to buy any of his CD's
I used to love NIN when Pretty Hate Machine first came out. I bought Broken
and Fixed, but never bought any more. Why? Well, the whole concept behind his
music was that one girl totally destroyed his heart and made him that hurt and
angry. THAT I can relate to... but to find out recently that the girl never
existed, that he made it all up, disappointed me. People that really go
through that heartache could relate to his music... he is just a fake, and all
that ferociously angry music was created by someone who is simply demented.
Not in pain...
P-tooey! Smashing keyboards? What a "60's" thing to do. I hate people that
sponge off other peoples ideas...
Serge Solski u
>I used to love NIN when Pretty Hate Machine first came out. I bought Broken
>and Fixed, but never bought any more. Why? Well, the whole concept behind his
>music was that one girl totally destroyed his heart and made him that hurt and
>angry. THAT I can relate to... but to find out recently that the girl never
>existed, that he made it all up, disappointed me. People that really go
>through that heartache could relate to his music... he is just a fake, and all
>that ferociously angry music was created by someone who is simply demented.
>Not in pain...
And I suppose you went crying to your mommy when you found out
that Star Wars didn't really happen -- and now you don't see movies
because they're just fakes.
I would think that since Trent was able to convincingly
communicate feelings of hurt, desolations, and despair without actually
knowing them personally (as you said,) that he should be praised even
more for his work. Isn't that what art is -- communicating something
outside your experience? According to you, all art is fake.
>P-tooey! Smashing keyboards? What a "60's" thing to do. I hate people that
>sponge off other peoples ideas...
You people just don't get it, do you? Listen to the music. What
is he doing with it? What is it saying? Let's imagine that you wanted to
say the same thing on stage, with actions. What would you do? Smashing
keyboards is the perfect thing to do. I would go further and talk about
themes, meanings, and the like -- but that would be wasted on you.
As for him "using up" all of the used keyboards -- it's great.
It's that many less people sitting in their bedrooms writing nauseating
love songs about their petty personal experiences. He should be given a
medal.
john hamilton kimble
I'm sure Trent would enjoy that!
LjSkD
Lou A. Green
>and Fixed, but never bought any more. Why? Well, the whole concept behind
his
>music was that one girl totally destroyed his heart and made him that hurt
and
>angry. THAT I can relate to... but to find out recently that the girl never
>existed, that he made it all up, disappointed me. People that really go
>through that heartache could relate to his music... he is just a fake, and
all
>that ferociously angry music was created by someone who is simply demented.
>Not in pain...
> And I suppose you went crying to your mommy when you found out
>that Star Wars didn't really happen -- and now you don't see movies
>because they're just fakes.
> I would think that since Trent was able to convincingly
>communicate feelings of hurt, desolations, and despair without actually
>knowing them personally (as you said,) that he should be praised even
>more for his work. Isn't that what art is -- communicating something
>outside your experience? According to you, all art is fake.
I'm sorry Serge, but Trent lied; he wasn't strictly making an artistic
expression, he actually MADE UP a whole elaborate story that he told the
media, both in his press releases AND in some interviews about this woman
that was the basis of PHM. It was all just one big "Terrible Lie".
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john hamilton kimble
I agree with this! I'm sure that all of us have felt the need to smash something, and if you can afford to then why not! If he had said that you had paid for it maybe then you would have looked at it differently!
Watch some of his vids like Gave Up what a shame that he had to samsh up some perfectly good human bodies! HA!
LjSkD
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Serge Solski u
>
>I'm sorry Serge, but Trent lied; he wasn't strictly making an artistic
>expression, he actually MADE UP a whole elaborate story that he told the
>media, both in his press releases AND in some interviews about this woman
>that was the basis of PHM. It was all just one big "Terrible Lie".
You're missing the point. Making something up, and getting people
to relate to it just as well as if you experienced it yourself is a much
greater accomplishment than just "spilling your heart", isn't it?
So you have a hangup with him "lying." It has nothing to do with
his music -- it's your problem. You think that somehow because he "lied",
that makes his music bad, when you used to think it was good. That's not
good logic.
Scott Amspoker
>and Fixed, but never bought any more. Why? Well, the whole concept behind his
>music was that one girl totally destroyed his heart and made him that hurt and
>angry. THAT I can relate to... but to find out recently that the girl never
>existed, that he made it all up, disappointed me. People that really go
>through that heartache could relate to his music...
Sounds to me like he succeeded in spades at creating his art.
>he is just a fake, and all
>that ferociously angry music was created by someone who is simply demented.
>Not in pain...
So what's the point? He's not allowed into your exclusive little heartbreak
club because you believe he's never experienced it?
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>No kidding. I read an article in an ezine about his hairdresser/image
>consultant. Who I would imagine tells him wt black clothes to wear and
>how to at sullen when dealing with the press.
>Trent Reznor has the all-too-common stench of a pretentious
>Eurosynthpopweenie who saw Ministry makin' some bucks and decided all of
>a sudden he was gonna be a "hard guy" now. Not that Ministry's any
>differn, with Al's hair weave to look lik some kinda rasta metal dude.
>But it works, and the altrnateens just eat it up like Apple Jacks...
In defense of Trent, he's always made it very clear, that when he's on stage,
he hams it up, gives a show. He's confessed frankly that he's not quite sure
why he's so popular now, when the "in" thing to do is to give minimalistic
grunge shows where a 4-man guitar band gets on stage, sings their set, and
leaves. His idols have always been Bowie, and Queen, guys who definitely
weren't afraid of the word "melodrama". And what's wrong with a play-acting?
When you go watch a movie, a play, or a musical, you're seeing a show.
There really shouldn't be any difference when a musical performer hits the
stage. The end result is he manages to convey a certain atmosphere through
all his ranting and raving, light effects, and wardrobe, and it works: I had
a great time at his show.
Random
mr808
>is he doing with it? What is it saying?
I hate myself. I'm miserable. I want to wallow in it. Boo Hoo.
>Let's imagine that you wanted to say the same thing on stage, with actions. What would you do?
Why would I want to wallow in misery? I've got better things to do -
life's too short.
>Smashing keyboards is the perfect thing to do.
I thought Keith Emerson has been showing us how juvenile this is since
1969. Smashing things is what little boys do in the sandbox. Why
don't you focus your energy on becoming an adult instead of wallowing
in your adolescent misery?
MR-808 in effect...
Swamp Ratte
JB> it's not
JB> sincere. Sure, he probably eant something by it the first night
JB> he did it, but now it's just for show. He's supposed to be ths
JB> industrial poet or something, but it's all for commercial
JB> purposes now.
Tom Ritchford
>In article <jc.49.0...@primenet.com> j...@primenet.com (Jc) writes:
>>I used to love NIN when Pretty Hate Machine first came out. I bought Broken
>>and Fixed, but never bought any more. Why? Well, the whole concept behind his
>>music was that one girl totally destroyed his heart and made him that hurt and
>>angry. THAT I can relate to... but to find out recently that the girl never
>>existed, that he made it all up, disappointed me. People that really go
>>through that heartache could relate to his music...
>
>Sounds to me like he succeeded in spades at creating his art.
>
>>he is just a fake, and all
>>that ferociously angry music was created by someone who is simply demented.
>>Not in pain...
>
>So what's the point? He's not allowed into your exclusive little heartbreak
>club because you believe he's never experienced it?
People are seeming to be very hard on Jc... but I understand where he
is coming from. I have been turned off to artists when I figured out
that they were "fakes."
It's like having a pleasant chat with someone who you later realize was
lying to you. It would be hard to trust that individual again.
I tend to like music for the musical value, rather than the emotional
content, so it's not usually a problem for me. I never really cared
for NIN's music, as it is too oriented towards normal song structure
and thus very predictable for me.
I don't think of NIN as demented but as a precalculated attempt at
emotion... thus the smashed keyboards every night, the stylized
screams, etc. All very tedious. Someone like, say, Crash Worship,
who are honestly disturbed individuals, is much more to my liking.
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Mr. Srinivas
alw...@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>In defense of Trent, he's always made it very clear, that when he's on
stage,
>he hams it up, gives a show. He's confessed frankly that he's not quite
sure
>why he's so popular now, when the "in" thing to do is to give
minimalistic
>grunge shows where a 4-man guitar band gets on stage, sings their set,
and
>leaves. His idols have always been Bowie, and Queen, guys who
definitely
>weren't afraid of the word "melodrama". And what's wrong with a
play-acting?
>When you go watch a movie, a play, or a musical, you're seeing a show.
>There really shouldn't be any difference when a musical performer hits
the
>stage. The end result is he manages to convey a certain atmosphere
through
>all his ranting and raving, light effects, and wardrobe, and it works:
I had
>a great time at his show.
>
>Random
I have to agree with you totally. I expect performers to "ham it up" and
change the music a bit. If I wanted to go to a concert just to listen to
the music, I'd might as well stay at home. I've seen NIN twice - once
at Barrie, Ontario and the other at Woodstock. I have to say that when
listening to the PHM, Broken and TDS now, it brings back memories of
adrenaline flowing through me in the mosh pit and the images of Trent
ranting on stage. If he just got on stage and started playing, it
wouldn't have been much of a show - not much to remember...
Serge Solski u
>> You people just don't get it, do you? Listen to the music. What
>>is he doing with it? What is it saying?
>
>I hate myself. I'm miserable. I want to wallow in it. Boo Hoo.
Right.
>>Let's imagine that you wanted to say the same thing on stage, with actions. What would you do?
>
>Why would I want to wallow in misery? I've got better things to do -
>life's too short.
If you don't like it, then you don't like it. If you don't
understand, you don't understand. People don't exist just to please you.
>>Smashing keyboards is the perfect thing to do.
>
>I thought Keith Emerson has been showing us how juvenile this is since
>1969. Smashing things is what little boys do in the sandbox. Why
>don't you focus your energy on becoming an adult instead of wallowing
>in your adolescent misery?
If you're looking for it to be something juvenile, then you'll
see it that way. Like I said previously, it's _your_ fault you see it
that way. The rest of us see (or make that feel) the way it's intended,
and have no problems with it. The keyboard smashing fits very well with
the music, and the context of the show.
Now if Tori Amos or Ted Riley started smashing keyboards, then I
would have to agree with you.
Bryan MacFarland
open market who saw his chance to commercialize an artform that otherwise
has merit. Fuck him and all his fans. execpt t hulse of sick april in cleve.
listen to a real band, please.
eworm. fragment.
Josh Toole
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