"british" sound mixers???
global...@hotmail.com
I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
appreciate any info and explanation.
I'm in the market for a mixer and was going to get a Mackie 1402VLZ. I
make strictly electronic music and most(err... all) records I like come
from England or Europe so... The last thing I want is some american mixer
designed for the local guitar-cover band playing in some crappy bar.
Any advice? Thanks.
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dissonance
Dunno where you read that but it sounds bogus to me, seeing as a mixer
shouldn't have any 'sound' at all...
FYI the 1402 VLZ is a great mixer.
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Gregg Maisonneuve
global...@hotmail.com wrote:
Both clubs I work at have Citronic mixers, one has the Renegade the
other the Predator. Neither of them seem to sound any different than
any other quality mixer. I would recommend both of these mixers to
anyone. The only problem that I have found is that the crossfaders do
not last for more than a year, but then again one of the other DJ's is
really hard on them.
Gregg
Ken Brown
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Actually, anything you run a signal through has a "sound", especially
anything with an EQ such as a mixer. It has to do with the quality of the
components in the signal path. The British "sound" comes mainly from the
Eq. They are typically warmer or less harsh sounding than their US
counterparts. I now own a Studio Master (Brit) Series II That kicks the
butt of my Mackie 24x8 as far as sound quality goes, especially for digital
recording. However Mackie is a good board for the money.
Ken
Kevin Thomas
Hello Global!
Yes, I've read that too, Mix magazine I think. What I remember is that
the "british" mixer has the cutoff points different, so that one control
(probably the midrange) doesn't cut the human voice in half. The
British apparently like being able to emphasize the human voice more
than folks in the US.
Just a thought,
Kevin
global...@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
> sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
>
> Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> appreciate any info and explanation.
>
> I'm in the market for a mixer and was going to get a Mackie 1402VLZ. I
> make strictly electronic music and most(err... all) records I like come
> from England or Europe so... The last thing I want is some american mixer
> designed for the local guitar-cover band playing in some crappy bar.
>
> Any advice? Thanks.
>
> -global
>
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chris
Yeh I've read it loads of times, some manufactures have even mentioned it on
their adverts, I have also read its to do with the EQ, the EQ being the part
of the mixers circuitry which has the greatest effect on the sound. I think
this is only realy relevant when you get into realy big studio consoles
though. If you looking at stuff around the 1402vlz market then don't think
this is relevant, I think you should base you choice more on if the mixer
has the features you need, and expandability - if you add new gear will this
mixer acomadate it.
chris
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Sheldon Hatch
> I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct
> "british
> sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
>
> Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> appreciate any info and explanation.
Well funny you mention that.... most of the mixers I have mixed on in
project studios in London UK are Mackie's. Mackie's are hot shit in
London and people are paying big bucks for the real american board. I
myself like the GHOST.
For real recording all of the mix'n is done on pro boards like the
Euphonix and SSL mixes...if you have few hundred thousand kicking around
for one of those used I would stick to the transparent mackie. :)
Cheers
-m
Harry Richardson
global...@hotmail.com wrote in article
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> I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
> sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
>
> Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> appreciate any info and explanation.
>
> make strictly electronic music and most(err... all) records I like come
> from England or Europe so... The last thing I want is some american mixer
> designed for the local guitar-cover band playing in some crappy bar.
Don't worry about it at that price range! The great British desks aren't
cheap, especially in the US, and the Mackie is fantastic for the money.
I'm English, and I'm happy to use a Mackie 32.8.2 for track laying, though
I prefer to go to a studio with a big board for mixdown.
If you need truly stunning EQ, get a Focusrite or Neve outboard.
Harry Richardson
Ted Barwell
Harry Richardson wrote:
>
> global...@hotmail.com wrote in article
> <884875607....@dejanews.com>...
> > I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
> > sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
> >
> > Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> > appreciate any info and explanation.
Years ago, the American music industry had a tough time making a good
quality mixer, so I finally broke down and bought the very expensive
Soundcraft 8X4 Wedge. The best tool I have ever used! The 'sound' was
the result of parametric filters as opposed to the shelving schemes used
by most American musicians mixers...That, and the patching, Prefaders,
and the Quality.
My baby died a slow death from being used everyday for ten years, and
now I use Mackie gear for it's quality and price.Cleaner overall...but I
miss the beautiful EQ section of the Soundcraft. The ability to select a
precise range to boost or cut....Great for Live Sound, and PA, but
awesome for SYNTHS.... Buzz Lux, DATABUSE
Li G Tsai
Ted Barwell wrote:
>
> Harry Richardson wrote:
> >
> > global...@hotmail.com wrote in article
> > <884875607....@dejanews.com>...
> > > I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
> > > sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
> > >
> > > Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> > > appreciate any info and explanation.
>
> Years ago, the American music industry had a tough time making a good
> quality mixer,
what the hell are you talking about chief? Really, all the best mixers
that have been made are American: Urei 1620, Rane MP24X, Biamp SCM7600,
Gli 5991. The 1620 is a classic and vintage mixer wanted all over the
world.
> so I finally broke down and bought the very expensive
> Soundcraft 8X4 Wedge. The best tool I have ever used! The 'sound' was
> the result of parametric filters as opposed to the shelving schemes used
> by most American musicians mixers...That, and the patching, Prefaders,
> and the Quality.
> My baby died a slow death from being used everyday for ten years, and
> now I use Mackie gear for it's quality and price.Cleaner overall...but I
> miss the beautiful EQ section of the Soundcraft. The ability to select a
> precise range to boost or cut....Great for Live Sound, and PA, but
> awesome for SYNTHS.... Buzz Lux, DATABUSE
I am of course talking about DJ mixer. To my knowledge the only british
sound is 'mono'. Listen for yourself the line of Intimidation mixers.
Ted Barwell
Li G Tsai wrote:
>
> Ted Barwell wrote:
> >
> > Harry Richardson wrote:
> > >
> > > global...@hotmail.com wrote in article
> > > <884875607....@dejanews.com>...
> > > > I've read in several places that certain mixers have a distinct "british
> > > > sound" - I believe it is the soundcraft mixers(correct?).
> > > >
> > > > Is there any truth to this? If so why? I've heard it's the eq. I'd
> > > > appreciate any info and explanation.
> >
> > Years ago, the American music industry had a tough time making a good
> > quality mixer,
>
> what the hell are you talking about chief? Really, all the best mixers
> that have been made are American: Urei 1620, Rane MP24X, Biamp SCM7600,
> Gli 5991. The 1620 is a classic and vintage mixer wanted all over the
> world.
Hmmm...'Chief' points out...maybe we're talking different beasts.....but
I have used/used up a hell of a lot of mixing gear...used/abused the
whole Middle-of-the market musicians mixers universe( not the expensive
esoteric never-leaves-the-studio mythical $10K mixing consoles, though
I've wrassled a few of them too..) from Tascam, Peavey, Biamp, DOD,
Roland, Ramsa, Yamaha, and Studiomaster...
Studiomaster EQ section is the key...I would flood the room with pink
noise at volume, R.T.A. out the room, EQ with dual
1/3 octave EQ's til flat, and the rest of the sound was between the
band/program material and the mixer EQ section. There is nothin like a
parametric EQ on each input ( and knowledge and wizardry...)to allow a
superb mix regardless
of the program material......
And the StudioMaster was one of the few boards that could handle any
assignment from Mix Minus mixes for live 3-way TV broadcast, to mixing
turntables! It had built-in impedence matching circuits to accomodate
wax....
>
> I am of course talking about DJ mixer. To my knowledge the only british
> sound is 'mono'. Listen for yourself the line of Intimidation mixers.
????? Well, Hmmm...I just don't follow you here...
Punchline is, yeah, the Old StudioMaster mixers had
had a cool EQ section that could be the tool to do the job....
Be it knockin'out an offending frequency without changing the whole
sound, or augmenting a sound by bumping the bottom up a little....
chris
In article <34C266...@osu.edu>, Li G Tsai <tsai...@osu.edu> wrote:
> what the hell are you talking about chief? Really, all the best mixers
> that have been made are American: Urei 1620, Rane MP24X, Biamp SCM7600,
> Gli 5991. The 1620 is a classic and vintage mixer wanted all over the
> world.
>
> sound is 'mono'. Listen for yourself the line of Intimidation mixers.
The guy who started this was talking about small mixers for a home recording
setup, NOT talking about DJ mixers, its like comparing a bycycle to a bus,
theres a totally different job in hand. As to all british mixers being mono
what the fuck are you on about.