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Yamaha DX100 patches conversion to DX7 ?

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Robson Luis

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Nov 2, 2000, 11:48:16 AM11/2/00
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Anybody knows how I can make direct conversion from DX100 patches to a DX7
synthesizer?
It's possible via sysex or other way?

Thanks.

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Mr. Clem

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Nov 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/6/00
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Not Possible. The DX-7 is 6-op FM while the DX-100 is 4-op.

el...@westworld.com

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Nov 6, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/6/00
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In article <3A0706B6...@home.here>,

"Mr. Clem" <nob...@home.here> wrote:
> Not Possible. The DX-7 is 6-op FM while the DX-100 is 4-op.
>
> Robson Luis wrote:
> >
> > Anybody knows how I can make direct conversion from DX100 patches
to a DX7
> > synthesizer?
> > It's possible via sysex or other way?


Um, yes it's possible, but you have to do it manually (sorry no sysex,
you have program the thing).

Yes there's a difference in operators, but you can just simply *turn
off two operators* on the DX7 version of the DX-100 patch, and the
DX100 has fewel algorithms than the DX7, but then the ones it does have
corresponds exactly to certain DX7 algorithms (if you turn the two
extra operators off).

Also, the level values in the envelopes are scaled differently, I
remember someone posting a conversion chart. I'll get back on this one.
But I have programmed DX100 patches on the DX7.


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The Number 23

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Nov 7, 2000, 10:23:54 PM11/7/00
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I'd venture to guess it is possible. If any product could do it, Emagic's
Sound Diver would be capable. Contact them to ask.

-Brian

Jay Kadis

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Nov 8, 2000, 3:00:00 AM11/8/00
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In article <8uah0a$enb$0...@216.39.147.216> "The Number 23"

The DX-100 is a 4-Op FM synth while the DX-7 is 6-Op, so you might not be able
to find the same operator configurations on the DX-7 as on the DX-100.

-Jay

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The Number 23

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Nov 8, 2000, 8:36:26 PM11/8/00
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I did a little digging, and it doesn't seem that Sound Diver includes
support to convert from DX100 to DX7 architecture.

However, as someone mentioned before, this can be done manually. The DX100
is a 4 operator 8 algorithm synth, and the DX7 is a 6 operator 32 algorithm
synth. The DX7's algorithms encompass all the DX100's algorithms, so there
is no reason you couldn't make a DX100 patch sound 100% identical in a DX7.
The problem is the various values (say, the EG) don't map 1 to 1 on the two
synths, so you will need to use your ears to compensate.

Just as a side note, you cannot make a TX81Z patch sound 100% identical in a
DX7, since each operator in the TX81Z can be one of 8 waveforms, whereas all
the DX7's operators are sine waves.

-Brian

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> In article <8uah0a$enb$0...@216.39.147.216> "The Number 23"
> <thenu...@my-deja.com> writes:

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