Roland U110/220 question
S J Harrison
I am looking at buying a secondhand Roland U110 sample playback module.
What Is the difference between the U110 and the U220 (or is there any
similarity). How much can I expect to pay for one in reasonable condition?
(UK prices if poss.) I beleive the U110 is now discontinued. Was it replaced by
a similar module with better specs?
Thanks,
Simon
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Paul Race
>From: S.J.Ha...@newcastle.ac.uk (S J Harrison)
>Subject: Roland U110/220 question
>Keywords: Roland, U110, U220
>Date: Tue, 18 Jan 1994 12:59:26 GMT
Both units are discontinued. They use the same cards and have the same
sounds, as far as I know. But the U-220 is reputed to be quieter than the
U-110. U-220's go for around $400 US or less in like-new condition, so I
wouldn't pay more than, say $250-300 US on a noiser U-110, unless, of course
you don't much any other access to used gear in Newcastle, in which case, do
what you have to do.
My employer is not responsible for my opinions. I'm not
altogether sure that I am!
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William P. White
Harrison) wrote:
>
>
> I am looking at buying a secondhand Roland U110 sample playback module.
>What Is the difference between the U110 and the U220 (or is there any
>similarity). How much can I expect to pay for one in reasonable condition?
>(UK prices if poss.) I beleive the U110 is now discontinued. Was it replaced by
>a similar module with better specs?
>Thanks,
>
The U220 is much quieter. It also has reverb which I do not think the U110
has.
William P. White,
bi...@utkux.utk.edu
Matzmla-NAMAKO-Motoh
→> I am looking at buying a secondhand Roland U110 sample playback module.
→>What Is the difference between the U110 and the U220 (or is there any
→>similarity). How much can I expect to pay for one in reasonable condition?
→>(UK prices if poss.) I beleive the U110 is now discontinued. Was it replaced by
→>a similar module with better specs?
→>Thanks,
→
→>Simon
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→Both units are discontinued. They use the same cards and have the same
→sounds, as far as I know. But the U-220 is reputed to be quieter than the
→U-110. U-220's go for around $400 US or less in like-new condition, so I
→wouldn't pay more than, say $250-300 US on a noiser U-110, unless, of course
→you don't much any other access to used gear in Newcastle, in which case, do
→what you have to do.
→
→My employer is not responsible for my opinions. I'm not
→altogether sure that I am!
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→| Paul Race Paul....@DaytonOH.ncr.com |
→| (513) 445-1665 FAX: 445-7196 |
→ ---------------------------------------------------------------
I'm BAD at English. Sorry.
U-220 and U-110 have the similar sounds. They can use same PCM cards.
But they have some different specs(?).
U-220 U-110
Effects Rev. Cho. Cho. Trem.
Voices 30 polyphonic 31 polyphonic
PCM card slots 2 slots 4 slots
Parts 6(5?)parts & drums 6(5?)parts
I don't know more differences.
If there are more differences , they may be number of output connecter
(U-220 has L/R,Dir1 L/R,Dir2 L/R) and included PCM waves , I thought.
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Petri Launiainen
U-220 is noise level. The latter is clean, the former is far from clean.
So if you studio does not have other sources of heavy hiss, avoid U-110.
U-220 is a very nice general sound unit - think of it as a pre-production
Sound Canvas with rack ears attached :-)
As other folks have mentioned, its piano patch alone is worth its value.
(street value? hey, I'm on the wrong side of the Atlantic Ocean to comment
on this, but if you really insist, 350 pounds is a good price. Take that! :-)
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Nicholas Velharticky
I would definitely get a U-220 if I could; the U-110 is noisier.
If I am not mistaken, two more differences between the U-110 and U-220
are that the U-110 is 31-note polyphonic, whereas the U-220 is 30-note
polyphonic. Also, the U-110 has more PCM card slots (4, as distinct
from the 2 slots on the U-220).
Corrections welcome. BTW, if you've been following that M1/T1 piano
sound thread, you might be interested to know that the U-220's
acoustic piano beats the M1's HANDS DOWN :').
Just my humble opinion.
Nick
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James Perrett
>From: vel...@epas.utoronto.ca (Nicholas Velharticky)
>Subject: Re: Roland U110/220 question
>Date: 20 Jan 1994 21:42:33 -0500
>Keywords: Roland, U110, U220
>I would definitely get a U-220 if I could; the U-110 is noisier.
>If I am not mistaken, two more differences between the U-110 and U-220
>are that the U-110 is 31-note polyphonic, whereas the U-220 is 30-note
>polyphonic. Also, the U-110 has more PCM card slots (4, as distinct
>from the 2 slots on the U-220).
>Corrections welcome. BTW, if you've been following that M1/T1 piano
>sound thread, you might be interested to know that the U-220's
>acoustic piano beats the M1's HANDS DOWN :').
>Just my humble opinion.
>Nick
The U220 also has more sounds than the 110. The sounds from the synth cards
for the U110 are built into the U220.
The U220 is one of the most used pieces of gear in our studio.
James.
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E.C. Loyd
>are that the U-110 is 31-note polyphonic, whereas the U-220 is 30-note
>polyphonic. Also, the U-110 has more PCM card slots (4, as distinct
>from the 2 slots on the U-220).
>
As a [proud] owner of the U-110, I can confirm 31-note polyphony and 4
slots. I can't confirm noise level, since I'm usually driving through
a light reverb, which masks a fair amount of PCM noise/hum. I'm quite
happy with my box, though I wish it was easier to program. Does anyone
have a PC-based editor for one of these toys?
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Claude Galinsky
> I am looking at buying a secondhand Roland U110 sample playback module.
>What Is the difference between the U110 and the U220 (or is there any
>similarity). How much can I expect to pay for one in reasonable condition?
>(UK prices if poss.) I beleive the U110 is now discontinued. Was it replaced by
>a similar module with better specs?
I heard that the U-110 was very noisy. I've heard the U-220 and it's very nice.
Over here in the Boston, Mass. area, a used U-220 will run you around $450 to
$600 (semi-wild guess). The U-220 will play samples from ROM cards made for
the U-110, but without the noise. So will the U-20, which I own.
Claude Galinsky
Jay D Schankman
priced (unlike the original Roland PCMs?
thanks,
Jay
James Appleby
: Does anybody know a source for good sounds for the U220, that ar reasonably
: priced (unlike the original Roland PCMs?
If there's a valid gripe about the U-20/220 sound cards, then Jay has found it.
Roland didn't license the rights to third-parties for the U-110 series sound
cards until the past year or so. Of course, by that time new synths had come
along that were 'better' than the old tried and true U-220's. So, who wanted
to go to the trouble of marketing after-market sounds?
Some time ago, I read an advertisement in Electronic Musician for a U-20/220
sound card 'ROM Burner' gadget. Evidently, there was software (on a PC I think)
that would assemble sounds in the Roland format, send the module to the ROM
Burner gadget and *presto* new sounds. It cost about $500, so; I doubt they
sold very many.
In the heyday of the U-220, the sound cards listed for about $75. You could buy
them from the discounters for $60 or so. Today you should be able to find them
them for $60 or so. You should be able to find them today for $40-50. You
might be able to make a deal if you buy a whole bunch of them. I'd bet that the
sound cards are going to be hard to find before too long.
I've been suprised that there are so many positive opinions about the U-220's in
this newsgroup.
-Appleby-
Valentine Bob
: I am looking at buying a secondhand Roland U110 sample playback module.
: What Is the difference between the U110 and the U220 (or is there any
: similarity). How much can I expect to pay for one in reasonable condition?
: (UK prices if poss.) I beleive the U110 is now discontinued. Was it replaced by
: a similar module with better specs?
: Thanks,
Just another thing I've noticed.
The U-110 had seven sound cards, the U-220 added five more, and since the
D-50 came out, three more were added. I have a few from the U-110 era and a few
from the U-220 era, and the later seem to be much better sounds. I'll problably
buy some of the later cards as well, anyone have any recommendations? (Theres a
"Super Strings, Super Acoustic Guitar and something else....)
What I really wish I had was a jazz drum set, I see a lot of cards like this, but
only for drum machines...oh well.
Has anyone tried other partys cards for the U-220?
Bob Valentine
Tom Ford
>In the heyday of the U-220, the sound cards listed for about $75. You could buy
>them from the discounters for $60 or so. Today you should be able to find them
>them for $60 or so. You should be able to find them today for $40-50. You
>might be able to make a deal if you buy a whole bunch of them. I'd bet that the
>sound cards are going to be hard to find before too long.
I have a U220 and no sound cards and was thinking I better go out an pick
up a few before it's too late. I havent heard any of them yet. Does
anybody have a recommendation? Are some of the cards not impressive?
I'm interested in any type of sound at the moment.
Thanks,
Tom Ford
James Choi
James Appleby <l11...@zuni.litc.lockheed.com> wrote:
>I've been suprised that there are so many positive opinions about the U-220's in
>this newsgroup.
>
>-Appleby-
>
There is a mailing list for U20/U220 owners/users.
Send your request to pha...@nwu.edu or just reply to this posting.
James Choi
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Jay D Schankman
Jay
Bitley
I'm in fact one of those who at different moments simply has to get any synth ever made just because I'm a) bored or b) curious.
Now, the U20 was very limited and not too inspiring back in your time.
But I am still getting the U110 which is even less capable and I feel proud being nearly the only one to use it... now in my time ;)
I want the cheese! And I think Roland never actually has made any badly designed instruments.
Cheers
Patrick