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Jeff Gruen

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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Greetings everybody.

I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.

First of all, I have never been able to get the 'test tone' to work. It's
always just dead air.

Secondly, when I load the sounds on the supplied sample library, I can't
get program #'s 5,6,9 & 10 to sound from single mode. In sample mode, I
can hear all the samples OK, it's just that the above program slots won't
sound from single mode. I have no problems with the other program #'s as
near as I can tell.

When I was working on loading the S2000 up with samples of my own
yesterday, I found that programs 5 & 6 wouldn't work for me then either (I
haven't got to 9 & 10 yet).

Does this sound @ all familiar to anyone?

My system software is version 1.3. My guess is that I'm having some sort
of software glitch. If your S2000 works, what is your system software
version?

Thank you very much for your time.


-Big Jeff


Stephen Thom

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Jan 26, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/26/96
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Yup I've had this problem with V1.3. Now I've heard that you have this
problem my guess is there is a bug in version 1.3. When I got mine it
was shipped with v1.02 or something and I got 1.3 from the guy in the
shop. Loading these samples in v1.3 it has the same problems you
describe. 1.02 is fine!! It's a bit of a pain really because v1.02
does not handle the FX board which I'm about to get.!!

Miron

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Jan 28, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/28/96
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Apart from the trouble.... Does V1.3 give you new features ???

thanks - miron

__________________________________________

miron deyssenroth
mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de

__________________________________________

Michael Sansoterra

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Miron (mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
: Apart from the trouble.... Does V1.3 give you new features ???

: thanks - miron

: __________________________________________

: miron deyssenroth
: mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de

: __________________________________________

Those patches dont work because they came from the S3000
library, and contain effect information that you can't
access without the optional 16bit effect card
(not available yet). So, don't sweat it, they are
not really "supposed" to work.

Although, you can kinda hear a couple of them
(organ) if you play a note on your midi controller
while in that patch and hold the note down while you
progress up to the next bank.

Not very usefull, however.......

M.Sanso


Jeff Gruen

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Greetings..

Excellent. I'm so glad that my suspicions are confirmed. Now I don't
have to go through the hassle of returning it via UPS mail. I'm going to
email AKAI about this today. I wonder what the chances are of Akai
sending me version 1.02 while I wait for a fix.

I hope they read their email & fix it before you pick up your FX board.
Good luck.

-Big Jeff

Jeff Gruen

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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Here's a cut & paste from a discussion I was having with another S2000
user. It might help someone else if they happen to be having trouble with
system 1.3.

Good luck.

-Big Jeff

****************************************************

>The answer is now obvious... I've got another problem : when I load an entire
>volume from my syquest, some global parameters are changed : output level is
>set to -18db and master tune is set to -9 semi -50 cent. If I load separately
>all the content of the volume, no trouble occurs.
>Did somebody encounter the same bug ?

I haven't run into this yet on my system, and nobody else has mensioned it
to me either. I checked all the SINGLE-mode parameters for the offensive
programs, and there seems to be nothing that would force them to be
silent.

I did try loading the troublesom programs individually and then RENUM'ing
them so that the were not 5, 6, 9, or 10, and I was able to hear them.
Thanks for that suggestion. I can always use this as a way around the
bug.

>My system is v 1.3 too,

I've gotten feedback from about 5 other users, and you and I are the only
ones having trouble with programs 5, 6, 9, & 10. They all are using
System V1.3 as well. They all say that it's a good idea to use the RENUM
command liberally- it seems to solve just about everybody's problems.
Unfortunatly, it has has not solved my problem. When I load the supplied
sample disk and immediatly do a RENUM, nothing seems to change.


Patrick Bastien

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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In article <4ea4q0$i...@news.proaxis.com>, Jeff Gruen <gr...@proaxis.com> writes:
|> Greetings everybody.
|>
|> I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.
|>
|> First of all, I have never been able to get the 'test tone' to work. It's
|> always just dead air.
|>

The test tone (a sine) works, but...

|> Secondly, when I load the sounds on the supplied sample library, I can't
|> get program #'s 5,6,9 & 10 to sound from single mode. In sample mode, I
|> can hear all the samples OK, it's just that the above program slots won't
|> sound from single mode. I have no problems with the other program #'s as
|> near as I can tell.
|>

... I've got exactly the same problem with the programs 5,6,9, and 10. They
don't sound from single mode, but they do from multi mode, don't they?

|> When I was working on loading the S2000 up with samples of my own
|> yesterday, I found that programs 5 & 6 wouldn't work for me then either (I
|> haven't got to 9 & 10 yet).
|>

Problems with my own singles occured too, but I didn't thought of looking if it
was related to the program number.

|> Does this sound @ all familiar to anyone?
|>

The answer is now obvious... I've got another problem : when I load an entire


volume from my syquest, some global parameters are changed : output level is
set to -18db and master tune is set to -9 semi -50 cent. If I load separately
all the content of the volume, no trouble occurs.
Did somebody encounter the same bug ?

|> My system software is version 1.3. My guess is that I'm having some sort

|> of software glitch. If your S2000 works, what is your system software
|> version?
|>

My system is v 1.3 too,


|> Thank you very much for your time.
|>
|>
|> -Big Jeff
|>

Patrick

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Patrick Bastien

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Jan 29, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/29/96
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In article <mdeyssen-2801961010100001@localhost>, mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Miron) writes:
|> Apart from the trouble.... Does V1.3 give you new features ???
|>
|> thanks - miron
|>

Resampling : you specify any bandwidth you want (<Fs/2) and your sound is
resampled at the corresponding frequency. Useful if you lack memory. I don't
(18Mo).

I don't think previous versions features this.
Apart from resampling and many bugs, I don't know.

Patrick
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Vidar Lund

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
to Joshua Monkey Meredith
In article <4ek6gr$o...@maureen.teleport.com>, m...@teleport.com (Joshua Monkey Meredith) writes:
> Jeff Gruen (gr...@proaxis.com) wrote:
> : Greetings everybody.

>
> : I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.
>
> You're "glitch" is that you bought an S2000.
>
> 'nuff said.
>
> Joshua Monkey Meredith
^^^^^^

'nuff said.

Miron

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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In article <4ehvfs$7...@lastactionhero.rs.itd.umich.edu>, e...@umd.umich.edu
(Michael Sansoterra) wrote:

> Miron (mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de) wrote:
> : Apart from the trouble.... Does V1.3 give you new features ???
>
> : thanks - miron
>

> Those patches dont work because they came from the S3000
> library, and contain effect information that you can't
> access without the optional 16bit effect card
> (not available yet). So, don't sweat it, they are
> not really "supposed" to work.

well, i know - fiddle with the parameters and you hear 'em.
but that doesn't really answer my question you are quoting...

Joshua Monkey Meredith

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Jeff Gruen (gr...@proaxis.com) wrote:
: Greetings everybody.

: I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.

Minor glitch? You're a fucking idiot. Why don't you fucking throw the
piece of shit in the trash. We don't need fucking trash like you
clogging up our arteries.

Fuck off.

Joshua Monkey Meredith

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Jan 30, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/30/96
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Jeff Gruen (gr...@proaxis.com) wrote:
: Greetings everybody.

: I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.

You're "glitch" is that you bought an S2000.

'nuff said.

Chris Edwards

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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>> Those patches dont work because they came from the S3000
>> library, and contain effect information that you can't
>> access without the optional 16bit effect card
>> (not available yet). So, don't sweat it, they are
>> not really "supposed" to work.

As I understand it, the effects card for the S2000 / S3000XL / S3200XL
is different from the original S3000 effects. I don't think they are
compatible. Therefore, the new machines won't be able to use effect
info from S3000 sound libraries.

But I'm not 100% sure here.

Chris


Jeff Gruen

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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I don't know who you are, but your comments are way out of line. Maybe
you're just joking- but you should consider that you've really hurt my
feelings here. It's scary enough for me to post inqueries to public
newsgroups without people like you intimidating me. You are a mean
person, and I hope I never hear from you again.


You make me want to write a really negative-sounding song.


-Big Jeff

m...@teleport.com (Joshua Monkey Meredith) wrote:
>Jeff Gruen (gr...@proaxis.com) wrote:
>: Greetings everybody.
>
>: I bought an S2000 yesterday, and I'm having a minor glitch I think.
>

Miron

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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> Minor glitch? You're a fucking idiot. Why don't you fucking throw the
> piece of shit in the trash. We don't need fucking trash like you
> clogging up our arteries.
>
>Fuck off.

did this guy have anything to say - or did my english become so bad
overnight ?

Joshua Monkey Meredith

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Jan 31, 1996, 3:00:00 AM1/31/96
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On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Jeff Gruen wrote:

> I don't know who you are, but your comments are way out of line.

Skip you. What a wimp, eh? Come on, people, am I the only one around
hear sickened by this mama's boy?

> Maybe
> you're just joking- but you should consider that you've really hurt my
> feelings here.

Ooh, poor little baby. I'm so sorry. Why don't you suck your thumb, or
is it burried up your colon?

> -Big Jeff

Big Jeff? More like Big Fucking Baby Ass Loser!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Screw you.

CROCUSDES

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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to Joshua Monkey Meredith: Where are you coming from little boy? If
you're tall enough to reach the keyboard to send your unseemly comments
out to the public, then you should certainly be tall enough to be a manly
gentleman. We don't need comments such as yours are meant to be to put
down someone asking straightforward questions. Step down sonny boy and
sit in the corner like the silly duncehead you are.
Chris Ray
Christopher T. Ray - croc...@aol.com
CROCUS Design Works - Philadelphia, PA


Simon Kunath

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Miron) wrote:

unpleasant & unecessary vitriol snipped>

>did this guy have anything to say - or did my english become so bad
>overnight ?
>
>- miron

No, this would appear to be a rude & unpleasant type with an attitude
problem,

Now,where were we.....?

Yes the s2000 has a small lcd readout, somewhat annoying operating
system etc & the ahem, *free* software isn't all it could be,but hey
how much did it cost?
& how does it sound?
compare.

Regards,
sck


Patrick Bastien

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Feb 1, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/1/96
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In article <mdeyssen-3101961930380001@localhost>, mdey...@ix.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Miron) writes:
|> > Minor glitch? You're a fucking idiot. Why don't you fucking throw the
|> > piece of shit in the trash. We don't need fucking trash like you
|> > clogging up our arteries.
|> >
|> >Fuck off.
|>
|> did this guy have anything to say - or did my english become so bad
|> overnight ?
|>
|> - miron
|>

You mean "did this fucking guy have any fucking thing to say - or did my
fucking english become so fucking bad overnight?" ? ;-)

there seem to be a need for a rec.trash.fucking.fuck newsgroup...

Patrick
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JHelmnj

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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Joshua Meredith, you are a moron.
Your ineloquence is appalling.
Do us all a favor and simply stay away.
You offer nothing but idiocy.
That should be simple enough that
even you can comprehend it.
Jerry Helm
another person from Phila, PA

Miron

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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> I don't think previous versions features this.
> Apart from resampling and many bugs, I don't know.

:-) resampling. that's good to hear. hope they get it done
for the 3000xl soon.

Patrick Bastien

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Feb 2, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/2/96
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In various articles, Joshua Monkey Meredith <m...@teleport.com> writes:
|> ... fucking ...
|> ... shit ...
|> ... fucking ...
|> ... fucking ...
|> Fuck you
|>
|> ... suck your thumb
|> ... Fucking ... Ass ...
|>
... and so one.

That's not a problem : anybody can express himself about music and synths
the way he wants here. The problem is that...

In various articles, Joshua Monkey Meredith ***NEVER*** writes:

Music, synth, soundcard, sampler, song, sequencer, sound, midi

... and so one


Any suggestion that could help this guy ?

Steven M. Boker

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Feb 3, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/3/96
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In article <4eit30$c...@news.proaxis.com> Jeff Gruen <gr...@proaxis.com> writes:
>
>I've gotten feedback from about 5 other users, and you and I are the only
>ones having trouble with programs 5, 6, 9, & 10. They all are using
>System V1.3 as well. They all say that it's a good idea to use the RENUM
>command liberally- it seems to solve just about everybody's problems.
>Unfortunatly, it has has not solved my problem. When I load the supplied
>sample disk and immediatly do a RENUM, nothing seems to change.
>

I've just purchased an S2000 and have run into the same problem that
you report. I have OS v1.3 too.

I have found that if I RENUM just program 5 to be program 16 or higher and
leave program 5 empty then programs 6, 9 and 10 magically reappear.
This is certainly an OS bug. Here's hoping we get an update soon.

Steve

--
Steven M. Boker 804-982-5062 (voice/fax) 804-295-0009 (home)
bo...@virginia.edu http://kiptron.psyc.virginia.edu/steve_boker/
Dept. of Psychology, University of Virginia, Charlottesville, VA 22903

P R Bishop

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Feb 4, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/4/96
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Jeff. . . I suggest you drop it. . . but take notice that you're right. .
. Do read on, both of you; I've got more after the excerpt. . .

In article <Pine.SUN.3.91.960131...@julie.teleport.com>,


Joshua Monkey Meredith <m...@teleport.com> writes:

>Subject: Re: Rude comments are not called for...
>From: Joshua Monkey Meredith <m...@teleport.com>
>Date: Wed, 31 Jan 1996 17:43:29 -0800

You meant, "Fuck You!"

In regards to all the fucking Joshua has mentioned (or implied):
As far as I'm concearned, you can both fuck in any illumionation level,
wherever, however, and with whomever you like, assuming the concent of all
parties involved. But your personal lives are of no interest to me. Nor is
this purile spat.

**Jeff; First of all (I'm sure you were unaware, and therefore absolved or
this misdemenor) keep personal discussions like this OFF the newsgroup;
"reply to author" rather than "reply". You're right; this person is an
asshole, unworthy of the air he breathes and thusly fouls. People like
this are ignorant, unevolved, worthless, and hopeless. He's beyond
redemption or reform. You may be a bit naieve, but you're better natured.
In my opinion, you are his superior regarding character. . .


**Josua; I admit it. This person has some learning to do--though it is
insignifigant when compared to what you must learn. I don't like your kind
of people. You form fanatic religious groups, militias, terrorist
organisartions, and hate groups. I think you are worthless. You aren't
worthy of the time I'm spending to write this. Jeff, however, is. He is
willing to learn. He's open. He's also probably intrinsically more
considersate than most people on the 'net. He also happens to be
inexperienced. Oh well. People like him are tolerated. Fucked up fascist
hypocrites like yourself, who do not understand or practice patience in
any facet of their lives, are only detrimental to this world and
ultimately themselves. I hope you insult someone more powerful than
yourself and get hurt badly. I'd feel safer after knowing you to be
neutralised, or neutered. Either way.

P.S. Why should fuck be derrogitory? Shit I can understand. And I know
the threat of STD's is serious, but that isn't relevant to the word's
deffinition. I mean, people usually consider a fuck a _good_ thing,
providing it doesn't endenger a medical, interpersonal, or social problem.
I'm tired of hearing people telling each other they mutually hope other
people fuck them--does "fuck you" seem as meaningless to anyone else out
there as it does to me? Equally meaningless, "fuck off" fosters a
question; "fuck off what?" How does one "fuck off" anything, except for
whatever happens to be beneath a given group (usually couple, but hey,
there's no accounting for some people's tastes or libidos) at the time. By
the way, love is not sex, and this isn't rude. This may be inappropriate,
ridiculous, maybe even irritating, but it's not rude. I've hurt no one,
asside from someone who asked for such treatment; he demanded it, and
therefore is responsible for it. And it is sincere. Why do people fuss
over inconsiquential shit?

Just think. . . or let this time be squandered. It is your option

***Q: What's up?***
***A: Damned if I know.***

Meric Ozcan

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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In article <4f5uq8$6...@nntp.Stanford.EDU> j...@ccrma.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis) writes:
>In article <4eta20$3...@news.univ-brest.fr> bas...@univ-brest.fr (Patrick
>Bastien ) writes:
>> In various articles, Joshua Monkey Meredith <m...@teleport.com> writes:
.....
>[deletion]

>
>> Any suggestion that could help this guy ?
>
>And thanks to the new telecommunications bill, this idiot will be jailed...
>--
>Jay Kadis Jay's Garage Studio
>CCRMA/Music Dexter Records
>Stanford University Offbeats
>j...@ccrma.stanford.edu http://www.offbeats.com

As idiot as this guy are the ones who support such a stupid law
itself...

Meric


Daron Myrick

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Feb 5, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/5/96
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|In various articles, Joshua Monkey Meredith ***NEVER*** writes:
| Music, synth, soundcard, sampler, song, sequencer, sound, midi
|.... and so one

|Any suggestion that could help this guy ?

With his temper and mouth, looks like he could use some Prozac.

Not A Speck of Cereal

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Feb 6, 1996, 3:00:00 AM2/6/96
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Joshua Monkey Meredith <m...@teleport.com> wrote:

[] On Wed, 31 Jan 1996, Jeff Gruen wrote:
[]
[] > I don't know who you are, but your comments are way out of line.
[]
[] Skip you. What a wimp, eh? Come on, people, am I the only one around
[] hear sickened by this mama's boy?

Nothing excuses your post.

I'm not above using colorful language when it's clear that its the
best word for the job; and flaming is permissible, if it's obvious
the person deserved it, you're making a point with your flame,
and you don't get anywhere near the crudeness you displayed.

Cripes man, just read the other hundreds of posts flying by in this
group -- you see anyone else reacting like you, to anyone, for
any reason?


----
"Great Tambourine overdub! Now where's that smokin' guitar solo
we recorded last night?" -- George Petersen


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