Where can I find a clean KX88?
GreenXenon
I just bought a TG77.
I’m looking for a “non-used” Yamaha KX88 [not KX8] keyboard to play
sounds from my TG77 FM module with.
Here is why I don't want a "used" one.
I'm very sensitive to outdoor dirt. There is a good chance the used
ones came in contact with grass, soil, pollen, asphalt, concrete, tree-
sap and other outdoor dirt. I'm allergic to amounts of those
substances which others can tolerate. That's why I'm an indoor person.
If I touch the outdoor floor, I immediately have to wash my hands with
clean water. I can't use soap or other chemicals either -- just pure
clean water. I can handle small amounts of dirt particles that are
present in most habitable environments, however, construction work
just gets my nostrils flaring.
Discomfort which most can ignore, feels like pain to me.
Because KX88 has electric parts, I can't wash it with water. If I use
distilled water it may not short circuit the device but would still
cause the metals to rust.
I'm not at all a germophobe. In fact, I like bacteria. It's the
allergens [such as pollen, soil, and grass dust] that makes me sick.
Also, I hate anything with a sticky texture [such as syrup/sap]. If
there is any sticky substance to any extent, there is a good chance I
will feel it and suffer badly.
Now if I can find a "non-used" KX88 that would be a dream entering
reality because then I wouldn't have to worry about dirt, dust,
allergies, stickiness, or toxic/irritating chemicals.
The KX88 is more compatible with TG77 than the newer models. I want to
play music through my TG77 using the best 88-keyboard available.
Since the KX88 was in production around the same time as the TG77 and
the KX8 [the newest Yamaha 88-keyboard] is really designed for use
with software programs, I would be better off using the KX88.
Big difference between KX8 and KX88.
Thanks,
Green Xenon
David Martel
>I�m looking for a �non-used� Yamaha KX88 [not KX8] >keyboard to play
>sounds from my TG77 FM module with.
They don't make these any more. It's possible but unlikely that some
store has one sitting in a box. It's unlikely that you will walk into that
store. Sorry.
>Because KX88 has electric parts, I can't wash it with >water. If I use
>distilled water it may not short circuit the device but >would still
>cause the metals to rust.
Hopefully you won't try to clean it while it's plugged in. I don't follow
the "rust" problem. It sounds as if you could clean the outside case and the
keys rather than immerse it in water.
Just off the top of my head, spray the outside with Windex, let stand for
a few minutes, then dry with paper towels. I'd use Windex and a toothbrush
on the keys, then dry with paper towels. You could also try a hair dryer but
don't melt anything.
Dave M.
geoff
> Hi:
>
> I just bought a TG77.
>
> I�m looking for a �non-used� Yamaha KX88 [not KX8] keyboard to play
> sounds from my TG77 FM module with.
>
> Here is why I don't want a "used" one.
>
> I'm very sensitive to outdoor dirt. There is a good chance the used
> ones came in contact with grass, soil, pollen, asphalt, concrete,
> tree- sap and other outdoor dirt. I'm allergic to amounts of those
> hat has never been outside, but is not for sale.
Why do you imagine that you 'need' a KX88 - won't any other MIDI keyboard do
just as well ?
Or have you mistaken 1 Aug ofr 1 April ?
geoff
GreenXenon
> GreenXenon wrote:
I asked Yamaha about this, they said KX88 has the best compatibility
with TG77.
GreenXenon
Specifically...
... I asked Yamaha Support "Is KX8 keyboard fully compatible with the
TG-77 FM module or should I use the KX88 instead?"
They responded "since the KX 88 was in production around the same time
as the TG- and the KX8 is really designed for use with software
programs, you would be better off using the KX 88."
geoff
>
> ... I asked Yamaha Support "Is KX8 keyboard fully compatible with the
> TG-77 FM module or should I use the KX88 instead?"
>
> They responded "since the KX 88 was in production around the same time
> as the TG- and the KX8 is really designed for use with software
> programs, you would be better off using the KX 88."
... or any other midi controller keyboard.
geoff
GreenXenon
> GreenXenon wrote:
Huh? What any other midi controller keyboard? Just anyone isn't going
to be good. I would like one that is fully-compatible with TG77.
Sadly, Yamaha said the one that would best fit my requirements is the
KX88. Unfortunately, there are no "clean" [by my definition] KX88s.
Rick Massey
"GreenXenon" <gluce...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:531752ec-c405-42b0...@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com...
Hi:
Though in theory this is a good idea, there are several problems to your
desire.
First off, you're not going to find a "clean" KX-88 anywhere. You may find
one that was used only in a smokeless studio, but I suspect that will be
fairly rare, as most studios don't use controllers, they use keyboards with
their own sound circuitry. Most controller keyboards find their most common
use live, as they're designed to use lots of tricks in MIDI to manage
complex setups.
Now, MIDI is MIDI. The number of controllers that can send Sysex are very
small. You don't have to marry a Yamaha controller with Yamaha gear -- in
fact, this is one of the reasons to get whatever controller you feel has the
best action for your playing, as it doesn't matter which brand you pair
with the module. MIDI is universal.
The KX-88 is easily one of the most difficult controllers to program
effectively. This is one of the reasons Yamaha didn't manage to sell many of
them. It can take literally hours to program a setup for a module on it.
If I were looking at controllers from that time period, I'd go with one of
the 88 key Roland controllers or even better for the Kurzweil MIDIBoard. But
just about any MIDI controller keyboard is goign to do the job, and there
are few that will require the screaming headache that the KX series will.
(The exception being the KX5, which is a surprisingly good controller with
easy use, but since it's a strap on controller, won't meet your 88 key
bneeds.)
I would strongly caution you to look long and hard before sinking your
money, time, and sanity on a KX-88 or KX-76.
geoff
Any MIDI controller keyboard will work JUST FINE with a TG77. Many will work
EVEN BETTER, with more programable controllers sliders.
You may find one someday on Ebay and very few, if any, will have been rolled
in the grass or dirt. Are you sure your allergy to everything is real, or
just another obsessive facet of your condition ?
geoff
GreenXenon
> Any MIDI controller keyboard will work JUST FINE with a TG77. Many will work
> EVEN BETTER, with more programable controllers sliders.
>
What is the best MIDI controller keyboard for TG77 that I can find
"clean"?
> Are you sure your allergy to everything is real, or
> just another obsessive facet of your condition ?
My extreme sensitivity to physical discomfort [including that caused
by allergies and stickiness] is very real and painful.
I'm not allergic to all uncomfortable substances, just overly-
sensitive. Though I am allergic to many substances that would easily
be ignored by most.
I've tried many different types of de-sensitization. They all fail
miserably. I'm not at all an outdoor person.
My preferred environment in an indoor, clean, dry, air-conditioned
house/room/building. I don't work well in the hot and humid conditions.
Soundhaspriority
f4eae902-f077-454f...@g1g2000pra.googlegroups.com
> On Aug 2, 9:32 pm, "geoff" <ge...@nospam-paf.co.nz> wrote:
>
>
>> Any MIDI controller keyboard will work JUST FINE with a TG77. Many will work
>> EVEN BETTER, with more programable controllers sliders.
>
>> just another obsessive facet of your condition ?
>
>
> My extreme sensitivity to physical discomfort [including that caused
> by allergies and stickiness] is very real and painful.
>
> I'm not allergic to all uncomfortable substances, just overly-
> sensitive. Though I am allergic to many substances that would easily
> be ignored by most.
>
> I've tried many different types of de-sensitization. They all fail
> miserably. I'm not at all an outdoor person.
>
> My preferred environment in an indoor, clean, dry, air-conditioned
> house/room/building. I don't work well in the hot and humid conditions.
I too have numerous allergies that the idiot doctors have insisted must be
psychosomatic. Given my whole wide range of mental illnesses, I'm quite
sure he may be correct.
Nasal spray. It cures everything.
Bob Morein
(310) 237-6511
zero
>
> What is the best MIDI controller keyboard for TG77 that I can find
> "clean"?
You should buy any new keyboard controller you want, then
wrap it in carbon filter media for a year or so. Change
the filter media once a month.
There is a lot of out-gassing with new products. This
should give you the peace of mind that you now have
the cleanest keyboard on the block.
-zero
GreenXenon
> I too have numerous allergies that the idiot doctors have insisted must be
> psychosomatic.
Those doctors deserve to be tossed into a daisy field full of nose-
tickling pollen and then told "it's all in your head"
Richard Crowley
> Brian McCarty pretending to be "Soundhaspriority" wrote:
>> I too have numerous allergies that the idiot doctors have insisted
>> must be psychosomatic.
>
> Those doctors deserve to be tossed into a daisy field full of nose-
> tickling pollen and then told "it's all in your head"
This is rich. Should we call it "Troll vs. Troll" or "The Troll Wars"?
Scott Dorsey
The best thing you can for these problems is to start chainsmoking cigars.
It will clear you right out.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
dizzy
>I've tried many different types of de-sensitization. They all fail
>miserably.
Plonk!
Mr.T
> > > ... I asked Yamaha Support "Is KX8 keyboard fully compatible with the
> > > TG-77 FM module or should I use the KX88 instead?"
> >
> > > They responded "since the KX 88 was in production around the same time
> > > as the TG- and the KX8 is really designed for use with software
> > > programs, you would be better off using the KX 88."
But surely *YOU* don't think a TG-77 is better than your beloved
SoundBlaster FM synth after claiming for *so many years* that it wasn't!
> > ... or any other midi controller keyboard.
>
> Huh? What any other midi controller keyboard? Just anyone isn't going
> to be good. I would like one that is fully-compatible with TG77.
If it's the Yamaha badge you're after, Yamaha still make new Midi Keyboards.
Don't try their on-board sound though or you might be disappointed with the
TG-77.
No wait, this is Radium we're talking about :-)
MrT.