Yamaha SY35 FM Synthesis
Sebastian Oschatz
I recently purchased one as a master keyboard for a studio setup
and found it a good value (especially the vector joystick).
Apart from this I'm interested in changing the FM Synthesis
parameters of the SY35 in real time with SysEx data, as I found
normal FM sounds mostly boring. The normal
user interface allows only a very very limited editing of FM-Sounds.
The manual says nothing about, but I guess, a detailled programming
of the FM Syntheis should be possible with SysEx (At least this was
my experience with the older YS200).
Is the SY35 compatible with any other Yamaha Synth? Is there an
editor available (for mac?)?
thanks a lot,
sebas
Colin John Brodsky
FM Synthesis by mark d. schoenhals@ellis
> If I remember, the SY35 is basically the same synth engine as the SY22. It
> just has more voices or something. Either way, it's also basically identical
> to the TG-33, which I have experience with.
The TG-33 and SY35 aren't compatible - for one thing, the TG33 has
double the polyphony. And it's a double of 2 SY22s. However, SY22
patches will work with the SY35 - at least for couple hundred that I've
tried. I think one of the main differences are better samples - the
SY22 was 12-bit - are any of the SY35 samples 16-bit? Or are there just
more samples?
> This is NOT an FM synthesizer... It merely has samples of some of their
> favorite FM sounds in it, I'd guess. Or, if they produce them in real time
> with an FM chip, they certainly don't give you access to the FM parameters.
> So even if they aren't, they might as well be samples.
>
> This is basically a sample-playback machine with the nifty ability to
> combine waveforms together at different levels over time: similar to the
> WaveStation and Prophet VS.
From what I understand, Yamaha bought the vector synthesis technology
from them.
> If you want FM synthesis as well as this capability, I believe the TG77
> does it all in one box.
Personally, I think the TG77 is crap - there's one in the MIDI studio
here, and I'd keep my SY-35 over it any day. I'm not a big fan of FM
synthesis - but at the same time, the samples are terrible in the TG77.
Especially the drumkits - horrible! It's certainly more flexible, but
what you have to work with isn't that great. But that's just my
opinion...
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mark david schoenhals
just has more voices or something. Either way, it's also basically identical
to the TG-33, which I have experience with.
This is NOT an FM synthesizer... It merely has samples of some of their
favorite FM sounds in it, I'd guess. Or, if they produce them in real time
with an FM chip, they certainly don't give you access to the FM parameters.
So even if they aren't, they might as well be samples.
This is basically a sample-playback machine with the nifty ability to
combine waveforms together at different levels over time: similar to the
WaveStation and Prophet VS.
If you want FM synthesis as well as this capability, I believe the TG77
Gary Calder
>This is NOT an FM synthesizer... It merely has samples of some of their
>favorite FM sounds in it, I'd guess. Or, if they produce them in real time
>with an FM chip, they certainly don't give you access to the FM parameters.
>So even if they aren't, they might as well be samples.
Not so. The FM parameters for Carrier and Modulator ARE available via the
sysex voice dump. I'm part way through writing an editor that changes them
on my SY22, and it works. The 35 is virtually identical apart from improved AWM
samples I believe.
The stored FM waves are just ROM stored sets of all the FM parameters (including
amplitude envelope), not samples.
Information on the 22/35 sysex voice dump can be found on the SY mailing list www
site at:
http://www.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de/PEOPLE/heja/sy-list.html
or: ftp.neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de
and go DIRECTLY to the pub/outgoing/heja/sy-list directory
Gary Calder