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Moza Al-Dossery

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Sep 7, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/7/96
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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
>
> I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> cards are available and which ones are recommended.
>
> Any and all feedback is appreciated...
>
> MKre...@Concentric.net

I also would like such information. Please email me as my newsgroup access
time is very limited.

My thanks to those who can help.

Scott (mo...@batelco.com.bh)

jp

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Sep 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/8/96
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Instead of PCMCIA MIDI interface you can use parallel (printer)
port MIDI interface on your laptop.
jp
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Simon Gray

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In article <323165...@batelco.com.bh>
mo...@batelco.com.bh "Moza Al-Dossery" writes:

~ > I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
~ > who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
~ > are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
~ > cards are available and which ones are recommended.
~
~ I also would like such information. Please email me as my newsgroup access
~ time is very limited.

A laptop's a laptop, already.

I don't know about PCMCIA, but Voyetra do a device which plugs into the
standard port for about 120lbs.

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Chris Randall

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Sep 8, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/8/96
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Mark of the Unicorn makes an interface called the PC Notebook Express.
It's a single space rackmount, 4-in 6-out MIDI interface that retails
for about $120. It plugs in the printer port, so you don't have to loose
your PCMCIA slots.

But like the man said, a Laptop's a Laptop...

-Chris Randall

Guy Eastwood

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Sep 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/9/96
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I use one of these Voyetra thingiers on my DX2/50 laptop with no prob
whatsoever... If you get one just make sure the box is powered up BEFORE
the laptop otherwise the drivers won't find it!!
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Christopher T. Johnson

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Sep 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/9/96
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In article <323165...@batelco.com.bh>, Moza Al-Dossery
<mo...@batelco.com.bh> wrote:

> M.C.Kreppel wrote:
> >
> > I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine

> > who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which

> > are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi

> > cards are available and which ones are recommended.
> >

> > Any and all feedback is appreciated...
> >
> > MKre...@Concentric.net
>

> I also would like such information. Please email me as my newsgroup access

> time is very limited.
>
> My thanks to those who can help.
>
> Scott (mo...@batelco.com.bh)

A better solution might be to get a PowerMac laptop and just pick up a
cheap MIDI interface that runs through the serial port. It's a lot less
of a hassle than worrying about PCMCIA cards, and Macs are generally
easier to get up and running (*true* plug and play!) than IBM-clones are,
IMHO. (I really don't want to start flame wars between the two camps!)

-- ctj

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daniel groove (g.o.t)

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Sep 9, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/9/96
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I do techno live acts and I use a Packard Bell 486/33 with 4MB RAM.
I also use Cakewalk as a Sequencer under Win 3.11.
I got the midi interface for $130 which connects to the serial port.
32 midi channels. That is two seperate midi ins and two seperate outs.
You need an adapter for the midibox though. sometimes annoying when
you take it on the road.
Any questions?
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Tim Hoffmann

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Sep 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/10/96
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I use an Apple PowerBook 520 with a Opcode Studio 4 interface (and
Studio Vision Pro)
Works totally fine (... and can do some HD recording too - with build in
AD/DA converters
or CBXd3/5)
Tim.
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Dong Hoon Van Uytsel

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Sep 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/10/96
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> > M.C.Kreppel wrote:
> > >
> > > I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> > > who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> > > are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> > > cards are available and which ones are recommended.

As I own a PC laptop and plan to make the jump to MIDI (entry level),
I've been looking around. I show you my list of cheap solutions for a
laptop (to be plugged onto the serial/parallel port, no PCMCIA). All
these products are shipped with drivers for Windows and DOS.

Product Price indication (rough estimation)

Mark of the Unicorn
PC-Midi Flyer 75$
Pocket Express 165$
Portman 2x4 130$
Portman PC 80$

Music Quest
Note/1+ 97$
Note/1 78$


Music Quest has other more advanced MIDI interfaces in the same style
that go beyond my ambitions (i.e. budget).

I am pretty curious about your experiences with this stuff.

_______________________________________________________________________________
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KUL-ESAT-MI2-Speech Group, room 02.86 phone (+321632) 1859
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Simon Gray

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Sep 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/10/96
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In article <ctodd-09099...@linden01.res.iastate.edu>
ct...@iastate.edu "Christopher T. Johnson" writes:

~ A better solution might be to get a PowerMac laptop and just pick up a
~ cheap MIDI interface that runs through the serial port. It's a lot less
~ of a hassle than worrying about PCMCIA cards, and Macs are generally
~ easier to get up and running (*true* plug and play!) than IBM-clones are,
~ IMHO. (I really don't want to start flame wars between the two camps!)

...apart from PowerBooks being twice the price ! :)

bob_c...@qmail4.sp.trw.com

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Sep 10, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/10/96
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What about lap-tops with integrated soundcards? Will these devices
conflict? If there is a midi/joystick port on the lap-top, can you
simply use a midi connector (joystick connector on one end, midi-in and
midi-out connectors on the other)?

jp

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Sep 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/11/96
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Dong Hoon Van Uytsel wrote:
>
> Product Price indication (rough estimation)
>
> Mark of the Unicorn
> PC-Midi Flyer 75$
> Pocket Express 165$
> Portman 2x4 130$
> Portman PC 80$
> Music Quest
> Note/1+ 97$
> Note/1 78$
> I am pretty curious about your experiences with this stuff.
>

I am using Midiman Portman 2x4 with my laptop, it gives me
4 x 16 (64) MIDI channels.
j-p
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Davide Capponi

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Dong Hoon Van Uytsel wrote:

> As I own a PC laptop and plan to make the jump to MIDI (entry level),
> I've been looking around. I show you my list of cheap solutions for a
> laptop (to be plugged onto the serial/parallel port, no PCMCIA). All
> these products are shipped with drivers for Windows and DOS.
>

> Product Price indication (rough estimation)
>
> Mark of the Unicorn
> PC-Midi Flyer 75$
> Pocket Express 165$
> Portman 2x4 130$
> Portman PC 80$
>
> Music Quest
> Note/1+ 97$
> Note/1 78$
>
> I am pretty curious about your experiences with this stuff.
>

I bought a MQ Note/1+ and am using it with Win95 and Wincake and some freeware editors/librarians on a
Pentium laptop with 16MB RAM (Olivetti Echos P90).
It hooks on the parallel port and I am completely satisfied of it, even if the box is a little bulky and
requires its own power supply (according to MQ, this depends on the fact that the interface accelerates the
MIDI flow).
Installation was very easy, with no problem whatsoever, and performances are good (I pilot the following
setup: Roland JV80, Alesis D4, SoundCanvas and Yamaha EMP200).
As far as my experience is concerned, I warmly recommend it; I own also a MQ desktop MIDI board that is doing
its work well since some years without a problem.

Davide
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Daniel Carrier

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Sep 11, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/11/96
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In article <Pine.SV4.3.91.960910221925.17817F-100000@permeke>,
dong...@esat.kuleuven.ac.be says...

> > > M.C.Kreppel wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> > > > who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> > > > are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> > > > cards are available and which ones are recommended.
>
> As I own a PC laptop and plan to make the jump to MIDI (entry level),
> I've been looking around. I show you my list of cheap solutions for a
> laptop (to be plugged onto the serial/parallel port, no PCMCIA). All
> these products are shipped with drivers for Windows and DOS.
>
> Product Price indication (rough estimation)
>
> Mark of the Unicorn
> PC-Midi Flyer 75$
> Pocket Express 165$
> Portman 2x4 130$
> Portman PC 80$
>
> Music Quest
> Note/1+ 97$
> Note/1 78$
>
>
> Music Quest has other more advanced MIDI interfaces in the same style
> that go beyond my ambitions (i.e. budget).
>
> I am pretty curious about your experiences with this stuff.
>
> _______________________________________________________________________________
> Dong Hoon Van Uytsel
> KUL-ESAT-MI2-Speech Group, room 02.86 phone (+321632) 1859
> http://www.esat.kuleuven.ac.be/~donghoon/
> _______________________________________________________________________________
>
>
Be careful ! The MIDIMAN Portman PC/P (parallel port interface) does not
work if your port is bi-directional. Most modern PC's have bidirectional
ports, so in that case go with the PC/S (serial adapter).

I bought the PC/P - it didn't work with my compaq (bidirectional port)
but it worked very well with my Texas Instruments. I then bought the
PC/S (serial) and it works fine with both machines. The obvious
disadvantage of the PC/S over the PC/P is that the PC/P can be powered
from the port, whereas on the PC/S you have to carry around the AC
adapter.

Has anybody else had similar problems with MIDI interfaces ? Has anyone
found a windows 95 Plug and Play midi adapter ?


My two cents,

Dan

Mike DeZelar

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Sep 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/12/96
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jp <j...@kkoski.pp.fi> wrote:
>Dong Hoon Van Uytsel wrote:
>>
>> Product Price indication (rough estimation)
>>
>> Mark of the Unicorn
>> PC-Midi Flyer 75$
>> Pocket Express 165$
>> Portman 2x4 130$
>> Portman PC 80$
>> Music Quest
>> Note/1+ 97$
>> Note/1 78$
>> I am pretty curious about your experiences with this stuff.
>>
>
> I am using Midiman Portman 2x4 with my laptop, it gives me
> 4 x 16 (64) MIDI channels.
> j-p

I have a Key Electronics MIDIator (MP-128S). It gives two MIDI in and
eight MIDI out, plus SMPTE sync. Cost me $169.00 US. You can find
more info at http://www.keyelec.com/. No problems so far.

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Elk River, Minnesota, USA
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Ari Tamminen

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Daniel Carrier wrote:
>
> In article <Pine.SV4.3.91.960910221925.17817F-100000@permeke>,
> dong...@esat.kuleuven.ac.be says...
> > > > M.C.Kreppel wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> > As I own a PC laptop and plan to make the jump to MIDI (entry level),
> I bought the PC/P - it didn't work with my compaq (bidirectional port)
> but it worked very well with my Texas Instruments. I then bought the

I have a Compaq Contura 410CX, a 486DX2/50 laptop and I'm using
my Korg 05R/W with it's computer interface connected to the serial port
of the PC. That works fine with my home computer (a tower case 486) but
always hangs the Compaq after about 10 minutes of use. I have tried to
use the laptop in training sessions with Passport Master Tracks Pro 6 and
some PD and SW programs, and always it hangs the laptop.
This would be very handy way of using MIDI with the laptop if it would
work better. I have already once updated the drivers (I'm using Windows
3.11 for Workgroups). (The latest driver version I have came with MOTU
Unisyn CD-ROM)

The other synths are connected to Korg's MIDI ports, and that should work
fine, I don't know if the problem is that the 05 is receiving MIDI
simultaneously from PC-interface (from sequencer) and from MIDI in-port
(from the keyboard).

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sir...@netup.cl

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Sep 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/13/96
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Hi:
I'm trying to get a midi interface for my notebook NEC VERSA Pentium 75
and I thought Portman 2x4 was OK, but since I was planning to get for the
parallel port.....too bad.
Do you know anything about the Steinber PC MIDI 3(48 channels, parallel)?
Thank you

John W. Taylor, Jr.

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Sep 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/13/96
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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
>
> I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> cards are available and which ones are recommended.

Our office recently purchased (and returned) a Turtle Beach PCMCIA sound
card that included a MIDI interface. As I remember (and this may not be
entirely correct), Turtle Beach conformed to an older PCMCIA driver
specification (pre-Win95), and the card would not work under Win95. Our
sysadmin called Turtle Beach to see if there was anything that could
be done, to which Turtle Beach replied that there was not and that they
had no intentions to make their product Win95 compatible. We did determine
that if we loaded the old PCMCIA drivers, we could access the card and get
it to play sounds, but we were not able to get the MIDI ports to work.

I guess the short of it is that if you are using Win3.1, the Turtle Beach
PCMCIA card should do you just fine. We are looking into an IBM PCMCIA
sound card/MIDI implementation (sorry, I don't have any more info than
that).

Oh, one last thing. The Turtle Beach card was about $150. The IBM card
is in the $260 range.

--John

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John W. Taylor, Jr.

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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
>
> I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> cards are available and which ones are recommended.

Our company recently purchased (and returned) a Turtle Beach PCMCIA sound
card with a MIDI interface. To make a long story short, the Turtle Beach
card will not work with the Win95 PCMCIA drivers. If you plan on using it
with DOS or Win3.1, you should be just fine. The card runs about $150.

We are currently looking into an IBM PCMCIA sound card that supports
MIDI and (apparently) works with Win95. It is in the $260 range.

John W. Taylor, Jr.

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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
>
> I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> cards are available and which ones are recommended.

Our office recently purchased (and returned) a Turtle Beach PCMCIA sound


card that included a MIDI interface. As I remember (and this may not be
entirely correct), Turtle Beach conformed to an older PCMCIA driver
specification (pre-Win95), and the card would not work under Win95. Our
sysadmin called Turtle Beach to see if there was anything that could
be done, to which Turtle Beach replied that there was not and that they
had no intentions to make their product Win95 compatible. We did determine
that if we loaded the old PCMCIA drivers, we could access the card and get
it to play sounds, but we were not able to get the MIDI ports to work.

I guess the short of it is that if you are using Win3.1, the Turtle Beach
PCMCIA card should do you just fine. We are looking into an IBM PCMCIA
sound card/MIDI implementation (sorry, I don't have any more info than
that).

Oh, one last thing. The Turtle Beach card was about $150. The IBM card

John W. Taylor, Jr.

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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
>
> I'm researching the purchase of a laptop for a musician friend of mine
> who wants plent of midi capability. Of all the laptops out there, which
> are more friendly to midi composition. Also, what if any PCMCIA midi
> cards are available and which ones are recommended.

Our company recently purchased (and returned) a Turtle Beach PCMCIA sound


card with a MIDI interface. To make a long story short, the Turtle Beach
card will not work with the Win95 PCMCIA drivers. If you plan on using it
with DOS or Win3.1, you should be just fine. The card runs about $150.

We are currently looking into an IBM PCMCIA sound card that supports

MIDI and (apparently) works with Win95. It is in the $260 range.

John W. Taylor, Jr.

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John W. Taylor, Jr.

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Chris Randall

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sir...@netup.cl wrote:
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> Hi:
> I'm trying to get a midi interface for my notebook NEC VERSA Pentium 75

Like I said before, try the Mark of the Unicorn PC Notebook Express. 4
in, 6 out for a total of 96 channels, SMPTE in and out, and a lot of
features that are good for live stuff too, w/o the computer. (i.e.
programmable merges and the like...) Flawless performance, and it even
uses a "Marshall-style" power cord instead of the wall-wart. Printer
port connection. Highly usable box, and rack-mounted, too.

-Chris Randall

William Barkin

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Sep 18, 1996, 3:00:00 AM9/18/96
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M.C.Kreppel wrote:
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>[snip] Also, what if any PCMCIA midi

>cards are available and which ones are recommended.

Check out the Edirol Corp. web site for the Roland Midi PCMCIA
SCP-55card at: http://www.edirol.com/preview.html

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