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Marzzz

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Nov 13, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/13/97
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Has anyone had a chance to delve into this new keyboard? I played one briefly
and was quite impressed by it. It sounds smoother and thicker than the
Kurzweil K2000 (I owned one for several years), doesn't have that digital
"crap" when you play up above C6, and it appears to have portamento/glide
without the annoying clicks and pops.

I have been waiting for the KDFX option to come out before upgrading to a
K2500, but this new synth is giving me pause...after all, it is available now!

Anyone else have any opinions? I haven't had the chance to really delve into
the synthesis aspect of the E-Synth, and I suspect VAST might still be deeper,
but at first listen I think I prefer the sound of the E-Synth.

Gregory Hayes

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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I wish someone would respond to your post. I would like to learn more
about this keyboard too....How good were the piano sounds as compared to
say a Roland A-90EX or the new Korg SG proX???....I need quality piano
sounds, no rinky-dink stuff......


Robert Hoffman

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Nov 16, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/16/97
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The E-Synth is just a hollowed out EIV box, with 16mb of ROM samples in
it which can be upgraded back to an EIV. So theoretically you can have
128mb of RAM in the thing and then you could have the most kick-ass
piano known to man. But at that point why would you want the 16mb of ROM
? If you want great pianos why are you using ROM based sample playback
instruments ? Do you know how big the piano samples are in these things?
EMU actually has a great Bosendorfer Bank on their Orchestral CD-ROM. I
wouldn't use it for solo but it is amazing in a track.

Gregory Hayes

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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Robert, so you would recommend just getting a E-IV in the first place?
Correct? Thanks for the advice....


Robert Hoffman

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Nov 17, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/17/97
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Gregory Hayes wrote:
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> Robert, so you would recommend just getting a E-IV in the first place?
> Correct? Thanks for the advice....

Yes I would, sorry for the rant. BTW, I'm willing to bet that most of
the ROM stuff on the E-Synth board are from the EMU CD-ROM collection
anyway....anyone know for sure ?

Marzzz

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Nov 18, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/18/97
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>>The E-Synth is just a hollowed out EIV box, with 16mb of ROM samples in it
which can be upgraded back to an EIV. So theoretically you can have
128mb of RAM in the thing and then you could have the most kick-ass
piano known to man. But at that point why would you want the 16mb of ROM? If

you want great pianos why are you using ROM based sample playback instruments
? Do you know how big the piano samples are in these things? EMU actually has
a great Bosendorfer Bank on their Orchestral CD-ROM. I wouldn't use it for
solo but it is amazing in a track.<<

Could you explain this further? I was under the impression that an EIV could be
upgraded TO an E-synth, not the other way around. What is the E-Synth missing
that an EIV has?

St.Einar

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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> The E-Synth is just a hollowed out EIV box, with 16mb of ROM samples
> in it which can be upgraded back to an EIV.

I guess you guys have been reading the December issue of Keyboard
Magazine. They say the E-Synth is an E4 "without sampling".

Keyboard Magazine was incorrect in making this statement. Both
E-Synth Rack and Keyboard are full functional Emulator 4 samplers
running the latest versions of EOS.

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Robert Hoffman

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Nov 19, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/19/97
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St.Einar wrote:
>
> > The E-Synth is just a hollowed out EIV box, with 16mb of ROM samples
> > in it which can be upgraded back to an EIV.
>
> I guess you guys have been reading the December issue of Keyboard
> Magazine. They say the E-Synth is an E4 "without sampling".
>
> Keyboard Magazine was incorrect in making this statement. Both
> E-Synth Rack and Keyboard are full functional Emulator 4 samplers
> running the latest versions of EOS.
>

Still doesn't answer my question. If someone has an EIV, or is
considering purchasing an EIV, what the hell do they need a wimpy 16mb
of ROM sounds for. Seems like wasted space under the hood of a powerful
sampler with 128MB of RAM and the ability to read every sample format
out there.

chris

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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In article <346F4F...@ix.netcom.com>, Robert Hoffman

<rob...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
> Gregory Hayes wrote:
> >
> > I wish someone would respond to your post. I would like to learn more
> > about this keyboard too....How good were the piano sounds as compared to
> > say a Roland A-90EX or the new Korg SG proX???....I need quality piano
> > sounds, no rinky-dink stuff......
>
>
> The E-Synth is just a hollowed out EIV box, with 16mb of ROM samples in
> it which can be upgraded back to an EIV. So theoretically you can have

> 128mb of RAM in the thing and then you could have the most kick-ass
> piano known to man. But at that point why would you want the 16mb of ROM
> ? If you want great pianos why are you using ROM based sample playback
> instruments ? Do you know how big the piano samples are in these things?
> EMU actually has a great Bosendorfer Bank on their Orchestral CD-ROM. I
> wouldn't use it for solo but it is amazing in a track.

All the emulator range is from the same base unit (E6400) with diffent
options installed, you can get the ROM board for the samplers, or you can
buy an E-Synth with it already installed, the E-synth is only 64 note
pollyphonic, but you can upgrade it to 128.

There all the same thing just different options installed. I think the point
of the ROM board is somoe people like to have some sound there they can just
dial up everytime!

These things are all just an E6400 with the different options instaled up to
the top of the range E4x turbo. The synthesis, operating system, the box
are all the same. The ROM board effectivly just take the place of some of
your RAM. However you need the new operating system to use the rom board.

The E-Synth is just an emulator with a few presets, I think its just an ease
of use thing, you have a few pressets you can always dial up.

I think/If I remember corectly.

>
>

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St.Einar

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Nov 20, 1997, 3:00:00 AM11/20/97
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Robert Hoffman:

> If someone has an EIV, or is considering purchasing an EIV,
> what the hell do they need a wimpy 16mb of ROM sounds for.

Sounds like you have heard the sounds and didn't like them...

> Seems like wasted space under the hood of a powerful sampler
> with 128MB of RAM and the ability to read every sample format
> out there.

Well, as far as I know I don't need this option... :) When the
Kurzweil K2500 was released it was a powerful synthesizer with
sampling added. Nobody complained! I think it's somewhat weird
that people complain when E-mu chose to add this option. As far
as I can see, what E-mu have done is to upgrade the E4 sampler
range to have instant gratification when they power up their
machine. And if I need it (or want it) I can buy it!

Just my opinion...

/ St.Einar

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