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Minimoog "Lucky Man" patch

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Greg Newland

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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Hello all. Would someone be so kind as to send me the patch
settings to get the Lucky Man lead sound on a Minimoog? I can't quite
get it right and I'm sure one of you folks could help me out. Thanks
in advance for any help you can give me.

Regards,
Greg
cad...@NOSPAM.durham.net

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Philip Stallbaumer

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Jan 23, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/23/98
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I dialed this in and was pretty close to the original sound. As I was
playing it though I discovered that I needed a 5 octave keyboard to
perform the entire lead part.

I'll go dial the patch back and write down the settings.

PJS

sherwood

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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I think it was played on the Prophet.

Sonic VI

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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> I dialed this in and was pretty close to the original sound. As I was
>> playing it though I discovered that I needed a 5 octave keyboard to

Keith must've been using the controller for his modular.

DE Davis

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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No no no, it wasn't played on a miniMoog, and it DEFINATELY wasn't played
on a prophet (since "Lucky Man" was recorded about 5 years before SCI
invented them!)

It was played on a Moog Modular system... I'm not sure exactly which
model number, but that's not really important since the selection of
modules was custom-built to order.

Spring reverb's an important part of the sound, as is portamento... other
than that it's just bog-standard low-pass filtered sawtooth(teeth)...

But why should you want to duplicate it anyway?? Creativity in the 21st
century, anyone??

:(


On Sun, 25 Jan 1998, sherwood wrote:

> I think it was played on the Prophet.
>
> Philip Stallbaumer wrote:
>
> > Greg Newland wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all. Would someone be so kind as to send me the patch
> > > settings to get the Lucky Man lead sound on a Minimoog? I can't quite
> > > get it right and I'm sure one of you folks could help me out. Thanks
> > > in advance for any help you can give me.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Greg
> > > cad...@NOSPAM.durham.net
> > >
> > > (Remove NOSPAM from email address)
> >

> > I dialed this in and was pretty close to the original sound. As I was
> > playing it though I discovered that I needed a 5 octave keyboard to

Mark W Roberts

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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I am kinda amazed here kids,

Now I could be real wrong but I don't think so...the "Lucky Man solo
was played on Keith's Moog modular..and if you really want I can give a
breakdown of every module in his system. But it would take me a little
bit cause I would have the image scanned for you.

The reason that a Mini would be harder to do it on is like someone
esle had said you need a five octave keyboard, the Moog controller
keyboards (modular) were just that and a Mini-Moog has 44 notes.

Another factor why it may not sound "right" is the fact that the
oscillators in Keith's Moog were the older 901A and 901B modules versus
the 921's...and most Mini's have a comprable 921 type oscillator. I had
a modular with both sets of oscillators and believe me when I say...if
you put 6 oscillators (the 901's) on '32 or '16 and use a squre wave and
play a Low D through a modest PA system...you can tear a hole through a
brick wall a six paces !!
It is very FAT and has some Balls...I love all the new technology and so
on, but there's nothing quite like a Moog Modular...

I don't know if I have helped or hindered, but I thought I'd add my
thoughts too...Mark

Lorne Hammond

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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sherwood wrote:

> I think it was played on the Prophet.

No. It was published, along with some Wakeman patches in the patchbook that
came with the MiniMoog. I haven't seen my patchbook in years. Tarkus was there
as well as some wives of Henry VIII, etc.Lorne in Canada


Charles LaBonte

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Jan 25, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/25/98
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Greg,

Nice to see you finally got your Minimoog! Unfortunatley, mines gone
(sob,sob) but I do have a copy of the Minimoog Sound Sheets written by
Tom Rhea...it's pretty helpful as a starting point to get those neat
Minimoog sounds (I know, experiment, but for crying out loud, it's nice
to have a neat, sound when you open up your first Mini Anvil case!).
Anyway, I got these sound sheets at FM Music for $10.00 and it's well
worth it.
http://www.madbbs.com/moog/index2.htm

I checked the patches under ELP and found a setting called Trilogy,
so since I no longer have my Mini, you'll have to let me know if it's
the
Lucky Man sound.

Settings are

Glide: 5
Modulation: 0
Osc Mod: left
Osc 1 16' (squar wave), Vol 2
Osc 2 2' (Setting 0) squar wave, Vol 8
Osc 3, 16'(Setting 0) sqr wave,Vol 2)
Osc mod swith up

Noie and ext input vol are off

Filter Mod off
Key board cntrl 1 &2 on

Filter cutoff -1 emphassis 6,contour 3
attack 0, decay 800 sustain 0
attack 0 decay 400 sustain 10

oh, glide and decay are on.

Like I say, I don't remember if it's the Lucky Man patch, but I this is
what Tom Rhea is calling the Trilogy sound patch.

Let me know how it sounds.

CHUCK


Synthfool

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Jan 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/26/98
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>I think it was played on the Prophet.
-Hilarious

>... other than that it's just bog-standard low-pass filtered
sawtooth(teeth)...

-No "teeth"... those are square waves, not sawtooths. Positively.

>Another factor why it may not sound "right" is the fact that the
>oscillators in Keith's Moog were the older 901A and 901B modules versus

>the 921's...and most Mini's have a comparable 921 type oscillator.
-Wrong again. Most mini's have the older style, non 921 series type of
circuitry. The "new" oscillator boards were not introduced until s/n 10175 and
the Mini had a production run of approx 13,000. That would make many more of
them the older style.
Only 1 out of every 5 or so minis I've seen have the newer oscillator boards.
(I've seen MANY, btw)

For what it's worth, I've heard that the solo was done on a Mini.
It is isn't terribly hard to click two or three oscillator footage switches
down an octave for those last few low notes.

And lastly, in Keith's own words "I just came in and played something off the
top of my head.
It's was honestly a lot of shit."

-Kevin
synthfool.com

Edwan

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Jan 26, 1998, 3:00:00 AM1/26/98
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sherwood wrote:

> I think it was played on the Prophet.
>

"Lucky Man" was realeased on ELP's 1st album in 1971. The Prophet 5 (and
Sequential Circuits) didn't appear until 1977. The solo on "Lucky Man" was
done on Emerson's modular Moog.


Edwan


FENATIC

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Feb 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/2/98
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I think it was played on the Prophet.

Howling with laughter. thanks.


PhReEkY dEeK

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Feb 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/2/98
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sherwood (sher...@ais.net) wrote:
: I think it was played on the Prophet.

Too funny. Was Sequential even in existence in 1972??


Tom Shear

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Feb 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/2/98
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>>sherwood (sher...@ais.net) wrote:
>>: I think it was played on the Prophet.

>Too funny. Was Sequential even in existence in 1972??

I can't believe I am answering this since I can't stand Keith Emerson, but it
was a moog modular

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Mark W Roberts

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Feb 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/2/98
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******!!!!! Wait a minute, I know this one, it was played on the Nord
Lead VII...yeah, yeah, that's the ticket ....!!! ********

Leiter

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Feb 2, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/2/98
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Mark W Roberts wrote:
>
> ******!!!!! Wait a minute, I know this one, it was played on the Nord
> Lead VII...yeah, yeah, that's the ticket ....!!! ********

No, it was an E-mu Vintage Keys.

flattop

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Feb 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/3/98
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No, it was a Fairlight!

Leiter <lei...@skypoint.com> wrote in article
<34D680...@skypoint.com>...

imp...@peak.org

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Feb 3, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/3/98
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flattop wrote:
>
> No, it was a Fairlight!
>
Really? I was certain it was done on an MC-303

flattop

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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Yeah, you're right!

imp...@peak.org wrote in article <34D792...@peak.org>...

DJ ATAXIA

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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bULL - LONEY, IT WAS A PLANET PHATT!

DB

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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I think he sang it.

KSeward

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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<<bULL - LONEY, IT WAS A PLANET PHATT!>>

<<I think he sang it.>>

Nah, man . . . it was the old RCA synthesizer run thru a Big Muff Pi.

Malte Rogacki

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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<imp...@peak.org> wrote:

> flattop wrote:
> >
> > No, it was a Fairlight!
> >
> Really? I was certain it was done on an MC-303

You wouldn't notice a SoundCanvas preset if it jumped you in the face,
huh?

--
Malte Rogacki

flattop

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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Didn't they also bring in a session player to do the solo? :-)

Malte Rogacki <ga...@gacki.sax.de> wrote in article
<199802041...@gacki.sax.de>...

PhReEkY dEeK

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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Malte Rogacki (ga...@gacki.sax.de) wrote:
: <imp...@peak.org> wrote:

: > flattop wrote:
: > >
: > > No, it was a Fairlight!
: > >
: > Really? I was certain it was done on an MC-303

: You wouldn't notice a SoundCanvas preset if it jumped you in the face,
: huh?

you're all wrong. "square lead" patch on the yamaha psr-510.

Leiter

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Feb 4, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/4/98
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PhReEkY dEeK wrote:
> you're all wrong. "square lead" patch on the yamaha psr-510.

Nope. It was the "Lucky Man" patch from the Roland Vintage Synth set.
That's where they got the name for the song.

Mark Harrop

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Feb 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/5/98
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In article <34D901...@skypoint.com>, Leiter <lei...@skypoint.com>
writes

Wrong again. Korg Prophecy - factory patch A63 - Not Unlucky

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CaptainNemo<nemo@deepwater.com>

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Feb 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/5/98
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Mark Harrop <ma...@umcorps.demon.co.uk.nospam> wrote:

You're all WAY off, it was a PAIA GNOME synthisizer being triggered by
a CASIO Midi saxaphone.


Rich Cotler

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Feb 5, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/5/98
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It's just got to be a Kurzweil K2500 with the built-in KDFX effects option!

Henning Kristiansen

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Feb 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/6/98
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[...]

>It's just got to be a Kurzweil K2500 with the built-in KDFX effects option!

Honestly, how old are we today? should this thread stop soon????????????????
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Nichols Scott M

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Feb 6, 1998, 3:00:00 AM2/6/98
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DB (d...@lillys.com) wrote:
: I think he sang it.
He farted it after eating a lot of beans and onions!

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